Mbp M1 pro with 1TB at clearance prices. Mbp M2 pro is out
Apple MacBook Pro 16" M1 Pro Laptop with 1TB SSD, 16GB RAM $3397 + Delivery ($0 to Metro/ C&C) @ Officeworks
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You can Say that again.
lool ,secirp ecnaraelc = +k3$
What a bargain /s Can get a Razer Blade 14 and be much happier with that.
Not everyone plays games. For general use the macbook is much better machine in basically every category
Who's paying $3.5K for a 'general use' computer?
Do you own a Macbook Pro M1 14 inch or 16 inch? Seems to keep suggesting that's a great buy.
I have one, work pays for it. It's fine, I need it for work, but I can still make it run slow. It does have a couple of quirks. One of them is if I left it closed / suspended for a few days (i.e. over the weekend), sometimes it rebooted itself the next time I use it.
Excel for Mac (Apple Silicon)… come on Microsoft, are you going to fix Pivot Charts refresh issue soon? I've waited 2 years and the latest update is still buggy. Sure, just close and re-open the Excel spreadsheet every time one of the pivot chart on a worksheet with multiple pivot charts is refreshed.
Windows on virtual machine in MAC works pretty fast too.
Not sure who you are asking but yes i do have an M1 max 16". Had many windows laptops before (surface book 2&3, several dell XPS and precision models, also have $8k HP Zbook from work) and this is the most reliable and pleasant machine to use by far. I did not like macOS initially due to a lifetime of windows use but now i am used to it and I can appreciate its advantages. The office suite is definitely not one of them as microsoft seems to intentionally cripple the mac version. However I have 64GB of ram and can run windows virtually in parallels with the MS office version if I need. Even virtualised it still run faster than the surface book 3 or dell XPS i used to have.
I also managed to get Solidworks and some engineering software to work with full GPU support.
@qvinto: You can insist all day how good it is, but it's still priced twice as much as it's really worth compared with competition.
@ihfree: You can get an Intel NUC M15 for about 1/3 of this price, or a Surface 4 at 1/2. I wasn't even trying.
Surface 4
May as well include the MBA(based on cost) as well seeing as the Surface Laptop isn't in the same category… And if we're not even comparing based on spec, then why even bother with a laptop costing ~$1400 when you can pick up a refurb for $200.
I wasn't even trying.
It shows.
@mrau: Hey, I've asked the question multiple times. I've only got a legitimate answer once. There's not really too much point having the conversation again.
Surface 4 and the NUC are decent PCs but they are not in the same class as the MBP.
@qvinto: Running Parallels is not the point. What I meant was, the same Excel spreadsheet works fine on Apple Mac Intel Macbook Pro running Microsoft Office for Mac (for years). Not all applications are fully ready and bug free with Apple Silicon. Are you really going to run docker through Parallels?
While I get the CPU speed advantage, we all know Intel 10th gen and 11th gen mobile CPUs are at best band-aid solutions. The 10th gen ones like in Surface Book 3 are Intel failed to realise AMD is gunning for its laptop market as well. 12th gen and 13th gen are supposedly better, but I have no experience (other than I know the 12th gen's benchmark figures to blow my 11th gen mobile CPU away by 65%).
I also don't think USB-C/alt-mode works 100% perfect every time with Macbook Pro's. Bluetooth, as always, is not perfect either (not just Macbook Pros). Once again, depends on which Logitech mouse you use, you either get a software that sort of work okay with Apple Silicon or glitchy. External storages, Mac and Windows don't play nice. Using FAT32 on Mac, you get crippled performance so you would format the drive to Apple's native format.
Don't get me wrong, the CPU is fast, but Mac isn't software perfect and for non-Apple accessories, it may not be that fun at times.
@netsurfer: macOS has flaws but I think many people who are critical of macs are those that are Windows users at heart. I was using a 15 inch i5 1368 by 768 display dell Inspiron till march 2020 when I bought a MacBook air m1 and the difference was night and day. Battery life magical, Display quality amazing. Startup time gone. What windows or even intel Mac laptop can you get for below 1.4 grand that can get shit done more productively
@mrau: Comparing both the base models
Cons of Mac
* bigger bezels compared to surface 4
* Surface has a touch screen display
* both have shitty webcamsPros of Mac
* better keyboard (subjective and minimal difference)
* Touch ID
* benchmarks show that m1 completely demolishes the ryzen 5 processor and is even competitive with the i7 surface laptop which costs 2.5k
* Mac has 2 hours longer battery life in real world tests
macbook pro m1 pro its a shame the 1tb is not pro
i've had the 16" M1 Pro 32gb/1tb since launch…I don't need to tell you it's absolutely a tonne of money and not everybody needs one but for my workflow, it's worth every penny. As usual, don't rely on YT reviews, all they try to do is push the device to it's limits with benchmarks rather than performance based on everyday use. I still prefer my 2019 MBP body but the M1Pro is bonkers.
Do you also have take on the MBP M2 vs your MBP M1?
Na not really tbh. Yeah it’s a step up but nothing to write home about imo feels like their standard “S” model upgrade. The M1Pro I have is still as good and as fast as the day I got it. I’ll probably get excited when the M4 rolls around.
What about yourself?
Bought this madness last month (https://ibb.co/wMtn062) for the business…
Don’t know much about Macbooks tbh, just bought the ‘latest’ one with the highest possible Ram.
Not sure whether I should be having some
buyer’s remorse or not, so I occasionally ask the opinions of people who seemingly know more about Macbooks than I do..@Gervais fanboy: M1 Pro 14 inch would probably be a better buy over M2 13 inch Macbook Pro in your case. 16 inch is a bit too big. In workflows you really need 24MB RAM or more, you should really go Pro or Max series CPU. The high refresh display is really nice on the 14/16 inch. SD card, HDMI port are handy. MagSafe is nice.
However, it is probably still okay because I wouldn't be happy to have purchased M1 Pro 14 or 16 inch 1 month ago (unless M2 Pro / Max going to be released soon had been factored in). Anyway, it's for the business so you can expense your M2 Macbook Pro.
Right now, M1 Pro/Max laptops are not worth considering unless there is a significant price drop. I just cannot see M2 Pro/Max disappoint. Honestly, unless you really need a new laptop or PC, it is best to resist M2 series and wait for M3 series. But, the upcoming bling bling reviews will entice people to buy M2 Pro/Max devices.
it is best to resist M2 series and wait for M3 series
Apple is allegedly working on a touchscreen MBP for their next iteration after years of saying they will never do this.
M3 + Touchscreen!
Are the ppl at Apple sniffing glue and using that when they price the laptops? You can get a desktop pc, play games and work. And you'll have money left
Would cost 20,000 $ if made in USA
Does anyone know how much it costs Apple to make each one of these?
The bill of materials would be$500-600
Their margins on Macbooks have always ranged around 30-40%, so around $2000 - $2500.
This particular model (14 inch MBP), based on info from Nov 2021, is $986 USD or $1405 AUD (excluding R&D, transport cost). We also need to pay GST. It probably costs Apple less now.
13 inch MBP and MBA cost less due to not using miniLED display, PCIe gen 3 x4 SSD (rather than gen 4), cheaper CPU, etc… Apple makes more profit from upgrades. Apple knows they don't make enough profits from base model Macbook Pro 13 inch, hence 8GB RAM and 256GB SSD.
Yeah same with all these people buying suvs you can get a motorcycle goes much faster and have money left over !!
Is clever. But not the same analogy.
Different categories and different target markets.
I am going to put it simply. I personally have found the Windows eco system and OEMs who make Windows Laptops to have just not done anything to the entire eco system to get it into a polished state. There are expensive laptops that are close to the price of Macbook's, and when you open them up, you definitely don't feel like you've dropped $3k+ on a laptop, and the experience overall is just horrible.
I am getting old now, I work in the field, but my time is preoccupied in producing work, and less time trying to tweak, adjust, investigating issues to the tool that I rely on to do my work, I just really want to buy a good piece of hardware, open it up, and the software works flawlessly with the hardware. In the case of laptops, not heat up like a hot stove, and not die of battery in a few hours and well below what the manufacturer's quote the battery life is.
While I agree Apple Silicon is impressive, honestly, like all computer devices (including laptops), the more you use it, the more issues you will find.
I don't agree with the statement software on Apple Silicon based Macbook Pros just works flawlessly. It's not true. There is still growing pain with some of the apps (and that includes Microsoft Office). Sure, if you just use basic features, you won't notice most of them. However, we are talking about a $3000+ laptop after all so I will push it to the limit. Docker with intel based images can still be glitchy. Sure, the fast CPU does take away some of that pain, but the experience is not pleasant.
There are still things where you cannot find the answer on the Web. I have situations where I can get things to work with Mac Intel binaries (through Rosetta), but as soon as I switched to Apple Silicon binaries, I get all these weird errors.
Mac OS is buggy. If anyone will honestly admit it.
I have both. Mac annoys me when it comes to file management and apps.
@shegeloaf: If you are used to Windows, then you might find Mac's default finder settings not quite to your likings. You might also need to learn a few hot key combinations. Each has pros and cons. Some of the Windows 11 changes are a bit annoying to me.
@netsurfer: I know a lot of the hot keys. I just find windows easier to use.
I had a mac for more than 15yrs now. But to me, windows file management are better.
LOL! Desktop in place of a laptop. Are you sniffing glue?
Maybe you're the one who's sniffing glue, in what part did I compare a Desktop?
Maybe you're the one who's sniffing glue, I didn't reply to your comment.
@mrau: Maybe you're the one who's sniffing glue.
Collapse their comment and you will notice my comment remains displayed. It will also make it easier to see which comment I replied to.
@mrau: To be fair, @ihfree did write his reply addressed to @Raj09 and not @squaredonut, regardless you should have just let these two be. They were having a little moment….
$3109 for the refurbished 1TB model from Apple:
https://www.apple.com/au/shop/product/FK193X/A/refurbished-1…I have never used Apple refurbished store.
Anything to be aware of?No. They are usually actually not refurbished, and always appear to be brand new. They are most often just new units that never sold, that they overproduced, and now they need to move but they don't want to appear to be discounting. They have the same warranty that the original item offered.
Any way to get a brand new one? So if its brand new and "never sold", they will take it out of original and put it inside refurbished packaging? Thanks.
Nothing against the Macs but what really kills me is them holding you hostage on RAM and SSD. Trying to buy a simple Macbook and you either got a choice of a piece of crap used one with 512gb or some backwards obsolete machine with 8gb RAM/256gb.
Many companies do it with an aim to push you to a more expensive and more profitable product. Personally, I think the 64gb and 256gb iPad Air one of the worst examples.
It's worth having an understanding of sales tactics, some of the psychology behind it, and knowing your current and future needs to prevent companies extracting money from you.
Sent from a backwards and obsolete M1 MBA with 8gb RAM/256gb which is still running fine and expected to run fine for the foreseeable future.
With RAM now integrated to the CPU for Apple Silicon CPUs, not user upgradable RAM is somewhat understandable. However, not allowing SSD upgrade isn't great, especially the cost of upgrade.
- Macbook Air M2 256GB to 512GB SSD upgrade costs $288.20
- Macbook Pro 14 inch 512GB to 1TB upgrade costs $259.60
That's unreasonable. The SSD in Macbook Air is PCIe gen 3, whereas Macbook Pro 14 inch one is PCIe gen 4. Anyway, M1 MBA with 8gb RAM/256gb (base model) was a smart buy.
Unfortunately Apple is here to make money and not be kind to users. And they are making enough of it. In 8gb model, swap will eat into ssd life. Seen it first hand.
Sure the ram and storage upgrade costs are a rip off but nothing holds a candle to Microsoft surface upgrade prices - want 32gb RAM instead of 16gb in your surface pro? That's like another $700
$3k+ = clearance prices, lool.