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[Kogan First] Steam Deck 64GB $849, 256GB $999, 512GB $1199 Delivered @ Kogan

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[Kogan First] Steam Deck 64GB $849, 256GB $999, 512GB $1199 Delivered @ Kogan
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Kogan are selling all variants of the Steam Deck. Appears to be the first major Australian retailer to sell the Steam Deck though there are other marketplace sellers if you want to roll the dice on warranty. Press Start has a roundup of some cheaper alternatives here. The 256GB price is approximately $100 more expensive than a VPN/US card/post forwarding solution that works out to $891.25 AUD based on Shipito (Oregon tax-free) and Mastercard exchange rates. That $100 might be worth it for people who want Australian warranty and to avoid the complexities of shipping it yourself (your mileage with Kogan warranty may vary). Also keep in mind the extensive self-repair options.

If you are holding out for a local stockist, bets are EB will stock it with similar price to the US (based on Valve index sales) though there has been no announcement. Also the AUD is expected to climb against the USD this year.

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        • onlinepred on 09/01/2023 - 16:28

          Yea so has had almost a year on the market to be put through it's paces and issues found right?

          • whitepuma on 09/01/2023 - 17:41
            +2

            @onlinepred: when i talk about bleeding edge tech, i'm not talking about "oh the product has only been out for a couple of months", i'm talking about this being a completely new product line from valve, it's almost like a whole new fork of the industry.

            A bit like saying 5 years ago that i don't want to be an early adopter of EV, i'm not specifically talking about me waiting till a tesla car has been out for a year before finding out the kinks, but i'm more talking about the industry as a whole.

            In the case of the steam deck, i do want it, and i likely will get it, but i'm only going to do so once valve sells it here, and i can have proper warranty, support, and the ACCC on my side if it needs to go back to the manufacturer.

            Need to keep in mind that as valve isn't technically selling this here, they have no requirement to adhere to the ACCC's guidelines, instead if you have a problem with this product you will need to go back to kogan/dicksmith, ofwhich kogan/dicksmith will likely defer you to whoever grey imported it, in dicksmiths case it's "VChain Global ECommerce"….i got no idea who "VChain Global ECommerce" is, but i'm not getting strong customer support and warranty vibes from them.

            You're welcome to take on the risk, me personally, i'll wait till EITHER valve sells it here or they announce who their australian sellers are, ofwhich i know i'll have support, warranty, and it will likely be cheaper.

          • whitepuma on 09/01/2023 - 17:43

            @onlinepred: remember, this is alot of high end tech crammed in a small package, who's to say that 18 months into it's life they won't start getting issues? Just because they have been issue free (within reason), doesn't mean they will continue to be…and that's where you want warranty and the ACCC on your side

            • onlinepred on 09/01/2023 - 21:43

              @whitepuma: Usually issues with these items will be cooling etc. look at the cooling issues ps5 is having. It’s a proven line.

              • whitepuma on 09/01/2023 - 22:35

                @onlinepred: refer to my previous 2 comments

                • onlinepred on 10/01/2023 - 10:47

                  @whitepuma: Yea, you aren't comfortable with new tech. All good! It can be a risk sometimes.

                  • whitepuma on 10/01/2023 - 11:27

                    @onlinepred: i didn't say i'm not comfortable with new tech. Don't see how you came to that conclusion.

                    I'm saying i would prefer to just wait a bit longer so that i can get the exact same product at a cheaper price, with lower risk of losing money by having better warranty and support.

                    Do you honestly think your warranty and support situation being a grey import is exactly the same as if it were actually sold here by valve?

                    Like i don't think you understand, "VChain Global ECommerce" is a hong kong based company.
                    Whilst keeping that in mind, refer to this on gray imports according to ACCC

                    If the seller is based overseas, there may be practical and legal difficulties in enforcing your consumer guarantee rights against an overseas business

                    In summary, If kogan/dicksmith/catch decide to pass on your issue to VChain Global Ecommerce (which they can), and that company refuses to help you….you're going to have many practical and legal difficulties in enforcing your consumer rights.

                    You say i'm not comfortable with new tech….nah mate, I'm just not an impatient consumer that likes to buy brand new things with no warranty/support.

                    If you are going to that level of risk, why don't you just buy 2nd hand? why don't you just buy direct from overseas? you will have the same level of support/warranty.

                    • onlinepred on 10/01/2023 - 12:04

                      @whitepuma: My parents have had their Tesla Model S for nearly 7 years now, have loved every second of it, the charging network for them has only become better and better over the years, they have been charging for free at their local shopping centre for a few years now. Typically with computers, things will break straight away, or very early on. So I'm comfortable with the kogan warranty covering that being 12 months warranty.
                      Kogan is australian, so only the product is a grey import. Kogan legally have to provide 12 months warranty.

                      • whitepuma on 10/01/2023 - 12:15

                        @onlinepred:

                        My parents have had their Tesla Model S for nearly 7 years now, have loved every second of it

                        You're comparing a completely seperate product, at a different price range, that's not even a gray import. Ask your parents if they would have bought that tesla if it came with no warranty & if they would have no consumer protection or rights, and that it would be more expensive than if they waited another couple of months. i bet their purchase decision would have been different

                        Kogan is australian, so only the product is a grey import. Kogan legally have to provide 12 months warranty.

                        That would be correct if Kogan was actually selling it, but kogan's not selling these, they are merely the marketplace for it (much like buying something off of ebay). The actual seller is VChain Global ECommerce, on dicksmith it's easier to see but they say on the listing "Sold by VChain Global ECommerce". So no, kogan does not legally need to provide 12 months warranty, like i said, if kogan really wants to, they could just pass your issue onto vchain and let them be the people you're dealing with.

                        • onlinepred on 10/01/2023 - 12:31

                          @whitepuma: "Consumer guarantees

                          Goods come with a number of guarantees under the Australian Consumer Law, known as consumer guarantees. If your good is faulty or does not do what you asked for you may be entitled to a remedy which includes a right to a repair, replacement or refund.
The seller who you bought the good from will be responsible for providing you with a remedy under the consumer guarantees.
The seller cannot refuse to help you or ask you to contact the local manufacturer.
If the seller is based overseas, there may be practical and legal difficulties in enforcing your consumer guarantee rights against an overseas business.

                          "
                          VChain Global Ecommerce will be held under ACL to remedy the issue. Not Kogan.
                          Anyway, Peace out buddy.

                          • whitepuma on 10/01/2023 - 12:39

                            @onlinepred: Refer to the following

                            Like i don't think you understand, "VChain Global ECommerce" is a hong kong based company.
                            Whilst keeping that in mind, refer to this on gray imports according to ACCC(accc.gov.au)
                            If the seller is based overseas, there may be practical and legal difficulties in enforcing your consumer guarantee rights against an overseas business

                            So you're saying Vchain will be held to ACL, which is true, but it's a hong kong based company, so in your own quoted text there may be practical and legal difficulties in enforcing your consumer guarantee rights.

                            I say all of this because i experienced this exact problem years ago with a brand new GTX1080ti video card, i had purchased it from an Aussie marketplace, but it was sold by an overseas company on that australian marketplace. So when i tried getting the ACCC involved there was very little they could actually do, so much so that i made a big loss on it.

    • Leeroy Jenkins on 09/01/2023 - 16:59

      I still have a tons of games to play on my 3DS and Vita, not to mention the blacklog that's been building up on my Switch, so I'm not in a rush getting this.

  • Sacco07 on 09/01/2023 - 11:35

    Dicksmith had them for $691 yesterday! Spewing I missed out. Surely with how quickly these things are starting to sell and Valve being able to produce these at a good rate they will open up orders to Australia soon?

    • scuderiarmani on 09/01/2023 - 11:42
      +1

      You'd think that.

      Such a strange company…. Seems so 1990s like releasing hardware years apart.

      • JMxoxo on 09/01/2023 - 12:32

        The demand over Covid was huge though compared to supply. Only now is it slowing down.

    • aveeno bb on 09/01/2023 - 14:30

      Yes both Kogan and Dicksmith sold by Vchain. Such a good price.

    • britta on 09/01/2023 - 22:42

      I nabbed the 256gb for $867 a few days ago. Just got shipping notification!!! Pumped!!!!

  • Jimothy Wongingtons on 09/01/2023 - 11:37
    +4

    Thanks OP I will roll the dice on this baby and see if latitute will honor my price protect claim …

  • Piranha2004 on 09/01/2023 - 11:43
    +3

    Yay Steam Deck….Boo Kogan. Anyone else and I might have been tempted.

  • Sunproof on 09/01/2023 - 11:44
    +6

    Currently living in Canada, mine was approx $550 after tax for 64gb model and another $140 for a 1tb compatible SSD. 64gb is the best value but I wouldn't recommend it at these Kogan prices. Having said that I use it a lot more than my PS5 and series X. Feel free to ask me any questions, I've had one since September.

    • jerjergege on 09/01/2023 - 12:02
      +1

      Did you buy in Canada?
      550AUD? Meaning it was only around 490CAD?

      • Sunproof on 09/01/2023 - 12:04
        +3

        Yeah, I pre-ordered from Aus knowing I'd be in Canada when it came out. $550CAD, price is $499CAD plus tax which works out well for Canadians. I'd expect it would hit Aus at $600 all in for 64gb.

    • jzx100 on 09/01/2023 - 12:04
      +1

      Legend, you just unsold me on this :)

      • Sunproof on 09/01/2023 - 12:08
        +2

        Haha, I'd probably have been tempted to pay $850 before getting one in my hands. It's an impressive piece of kit but I'd say it'll be available locally soon. Wait time is currently only 1-2 weeks in NA so I'd say they'll be expanding to other markets really soon.

  • Wonderfool on 09/01/2023 - 11:45
    +3

    For these prices though, the aya neo 2 is competitive.

  • Miso on 09/01/2023 - 12:17
    +2

    A grand to play video games. What is this, the PS3?

  • shroomish on 09/01/2023 - 12:18

    Can I use this as a laptop replacement?

    • niknah on 09/01/2023 - 12:27
      +2

      Yes, there is a "desktop" mode. You can also purchase a laptop, install Ubuntu, run Steam proton on the laptop, then you'll have a bigger screen, keyboard, trackpad

    • RetroMetro on 09/01/2023 - 12:35

      im using mine as a handheld gaming console/laptop. I have a portable monitor, keybourd and mouse that i hook up when playing first person shooter games/doing uni work.

      • Raxxen on 19/01/2023 - 14:22

        How do you find it? I am seriously considering doing the same. (Current computer is an old Acer C720 Chromebook with Linux).

        • RetroMetro on 19/01/2023 - 17:44
          +1

          Wouldn't recommend doing huge gaming off a portable monitor. Its mainly for travel e.g. lan sessions. I have a normal gaming pc for everyday use

          • Raxxen on 20/01/2023 - 07:22

            @RetroMetro: Yeah fair, what about using it to do your uni work? Doable?

    • Jimothy Wongingtons on 09/01/2023 - 14:06

      u might want to look at something like gpd win max

  • Godric on 09/01/2023 - 12:26

    I didn't even realize these were being sold in Aus now, after waiting so long i gave up checking

    • Rumbaar on 09/01/2023 - 12:32
      +6

      They're not, yet.

  • auslei on 09/01/2023 - 12:28

    Prob better to hold out for Aus stock, by that time, there maybe Steam Deck 2!!

  • Dack Smith on 09/01/2023 - 12:34

    Epic price to pay for Zen 2 power, especially when Zen 4 is on the horizon.

    • hamwhisperer on 09/01/2023 - 14:01
      +1

      It needs to be Zen 4, mobile and low low power to boot, not just normal low power.

  • Namidairo on 09/01/2023 - 12:48
    +1

    Interestingly enough, Valve's supplier for their chargers got the AU charger approved back in August 2021, there's just nowhere to actually purchase one.

    Luckily, all you need is a 45W+ PD charger and a cable that won't burn down your home.

    https://equipment.erac.gov.au/Public/Profiles.aspx?Applicati…

    • auslei on 09/01/2023 - 14:20

      Probably stuck at some red-tape somewhere

  • cloudzhou on 09/01/2023 - 12:57
    +3

    I only paid US$300 for the steamdeck by using 30% discounted steam credit on September, plus US$60 for forwarding and Tax. And I got the deck in a week back then.

    • agalea101 on 09/01/2023 - 13:15
      +1

      That's a fine price. Well done

      Jelly

    • hamwhisperer on 09/01/2023 - 14:01
      +4

      How did you buy 30% discounted steam credit? I've heard of Americans doing this trick with 10% off cards at retailers, but 30%?!

  • Bohlin on 09/01/2023 - 13:02
    +3

    Interesting, but I don't know if this is enough to push most people to buy early compared to the trick you can do with a VPN, etc. I also don't know how I would feel giving Kogan money to encourage grey market scalping practices. Given the recent push into the Asian market, I reckon it won't be too long before we see official AU versions sold here, but who knows. If you've been patient this long, you can probably wait a bit longer to shave off some significant $$$ and have official repair/warranty availability.

  • [Deactivated] on 09/01/2023 - 13:07
    +9

    Gonna wait for a proper release, its been a year now and plenty of supply worldwide. No reason to buy these ones from third-party sellers at such a high markup price.

    • [Deactivated] on 09/01/2023 - 13:34
      +2

      Yep. The comments here stopped me buying one of the ones listed.
      Once EB gets stock, I'll buy one.

    • britta on 09/01/2023 - 22:43

      Index took over 2 years….just sayin

  • jnguy54 on 09/01/2023 - 13:14
    +3

    Best device I've ever owned

    • vash12 on 09/01/2023 - 13:33

      Isn't it better to get a gaming laptop or a handheld is that less bulky?

      • Jimothy Wongingtons on 09/01/2023 - 13:35
        +3

        Isn't it better to get a gaming laptop

        Different beasts

      • jnguy54 on 09/01/2023 - 13:54

        They are different but I find the form factor makes using it much more convenient than a laptop. It has a quick suspend/resume function like a switch or console which is great. Also I'm sure the other hand-helds from Aya neo etc are great too so I'm keen to see how those go. The bulkiness has never been a problem for me.

      • smartazz104 on 09/01/2023 - 17:14

        Yes a handlheld is less bulky.

      • Wonderfool on 10/01/2023 - 10:30

        If you get a less bulkier handheld, not only do the ergonomic suffer, you get less battery as well. And these already have bad batteries as is. Plus, there's no point going smaller until you get to the 4 inch devices, which you can pocket comfortably.

        As for gaming laptops, trust me, you'll prefer convenience over graphics fidelity any day.

  • TeddyBear on 09/01/2023 - 13:36

    Wow, I thought it would never come to Aus.

    • Jimothy Wongingtons on 09/01/2023 - 13:42
      +6

      i mean..technically it hasnt.

      • TeddyBear on 09/01/2023 - 13:44
        +2

        Waiting for them to apply the Australia tax and EB Games levy once it does.

  • youravejoe on 09/01/2023 - 13:45
    +1

    I just bought 256gb in dick smith for $867 now.
    Thanks guys

  • bailbondsh on 09/01/2023 - 13:49

    Such an innovative console

  • Pelilah on 09/01/2023 - 13:50
    +3

    Managed to snag one for $691 for 64gb model the other night. Have read posts on reddit with people buying from the same seller (vchain) via kogan/catch and receiving it after 1-2 weeks.

    • hamwhisperer on 09/01/2023 - 13:59

      That's not a bad price at all.

    • aveeno bb on 09/01/2023 - 14:27

      Yes, I bought off the same seller when they were selling for $824 or something, and I could buy cheaper when there was a heavy discount on Dick Smith gift card on Shopback. I received one in sealed condition, so no issues from that seller.

      I've also bought another one for the same $691 price, but not at the same discount as above. Still, the cheapest I could find.

  • hamwhisperer on 09/01/2023 - 13:56
    +5

    "That $150 might be worth it for people who want Australian warranty"

    I'm absoloutely, not convinced ANY retailer here, besides Amazon, will genuinely honour the warranty for this thing properly.
    Considering the price, it should be a 24 month warranty, that means if something goes wrong, in 20 months I'd want to be able to swap it for a replacement, without waiting 4 months for it to be shipped off.

  • ihbh on 09/01/2023 - 13:57

    I must be getting too old. I had to Google Steam Deck.

    • Jimothy Wongingtons on 09/01/2023 - 14:26
      +5

      google: did you mean STREAM deck?

      everytime i swear.

      • theguyrules on 09/01/2023 - 15:30
        +5

        I sold my Stream Deck a few days before I ordered my Steam Deck.
        Confused my poor wife

        • Jimothy Wongingtons on 09/01/2023 - 15:33
          +3

          My misso: that’s nice, whatever makes you happy.

          • theguyrules on 09/01/2023 - 15:36

            @Jimothy Wongingtons: Same once I started explaining the difference haha

            • hami101 on 09/01/2023 - 17:23
              +3

              @theguyrules: One's for Steam games and the other is to stream games. But you can also stream steam on steam deck while connected to the stream deck.

  • syousef on 09/01/2023 - 13:59
    -2

    Everything is so damn expensive at the moment. And this is coming from a guy that grew up in the "game and watch" era of handheld gaming. I want a handheld that can hold a decent chunk of my steam library but I'm not willing to spend $1300 on a compromise. (Yes I consider 512 too small!). Opening up a brand new 64GB model and frankensteining it with a $500 drive, probably voiding warranty isn't too appealing either. Wonder what they'll cost when locally available. I'm not confident EB will price them reasonably.

    • scuderiarmani on 09/01/2023 - 14:10
      +2

      Upgrading the storage won't void warranty.

      EB will sell them at RRP, whatever that is deemed to be.

    • Wonderfool on 10/01/2023 - 10:31
      +1

      Check the aya neo 2 or win 4, they have up to 2tb pre installed.

  • shabaka on 09/01/2023 - 14:01

    great device and all, but I doubt value over a gaming laptop. plus, anything that has controls built in is an invitation to trouble.

    with a laptop at least I can buy a new mouse or change keyboard relatively easily, or fix the screen, but here something breaks (thumbsticks? ABXY buttons) and yes I saw the iFixIt guides, but what happens with warranty in this case? also expanding storage is a gamble essentially. with a laptop it's a piece of cake. also what about resale value

    I will wait for version 2. good idea, but too many questions

  • solacens on 09/01/2023 - 14:10

    Is this official or grey import?

    • scuderiarmani on 09/01/2023 - 14:11
      +2

      Grey import.

      • DDman7 on 09/01/2023 - 14:18

        What does a grey import mean?

        • aveeno bb on 09/01/2023 - 14:19

          Not officially launched in Aus, but imported from overseas for their markets.

        • scuderiarmani on 09/01/2023 - 14:46
          +1

          You are at the mercy of the shop for warranty and have no real protection.

          And when we are talking about places like Kogan…. I'd rather light my money on fire.

          • aveeno bb on 09/01/2023 - 14:52
            -2

            @scuderiarmani: What was the last thing you bought on Kogan that you had trouble with?

            Kogan was notorious years ago but my experience with Kogan in the last few years have been fine. I would say at least comparable to Catch.

            • scuderiarmani on 09/01/2023 - 14:57
              +1

              @aveeno bb: I won't touch either personally.

              I've had terrible experiences with grey import products in general. Also had non stop spam from Kogan on numerous occasions despite contacting them directly advising of it. Just constant unsavoury things.

              I generally stick with Amazon and products from them only. I rarely ever buy off ebay after buying so much trash tech/cables that lasts a few days. Just over 3rd party sellers.

              • aveeno bb on 09/01/2023 - 14:58

                @scuderiarmani: Fair enough, your choice.

                I have bought a number of items from grey sellers like Banggood, AliExpress and even dodge ones like buybuybox. Saving on buying grey import mostly overweighed the risks.

                • scuderiarmani on 09/01/2023 - 15:03

                  @aveeno bb: Aliexpress I've waited many months for orders on occasions.

                  The almost guarantee that you get an item from Amazon in 2 days or so, even weekends and holidays, is sometimes worth the little extra.

                  Amazon US always over estimates dates too, UK I've started avoiding when possible though.

                  I had a Smart Watch from memory many years ago from one of the big ebay/online sellers. Sent it back to HK, cost a fortune and they kept it. Denying any issues. LUCKILY I got in narrowly with 6 month PayPal protection. That was an absolute deal breaker for me for any grey import. Think I've torched the store years ago on here. They wanted me to send videos of the faults while it was with them for repair. That sorta behaviour would be slaughtered in Australia.

  • mboy on 09/01/2023 - 14:26

    I've been considering a Steam Deck to use as a 'PC gaming console' to leave plugged into the TV. Basically, same way I use my Switch. Is anyone aware of any drawbacks to using this approach? ie…

    • Any power management issues when not in use? Does it switch to a lower power / hibernate mode when not active (like current consoles)?
    • Can I wake it up and turn it off using a controller on the couch?
    • And (unrelated, but also) does anyone know if I can launch Epic Games from it?
    • Jimothy Wongingtons on 09/01/2023 - 14:28
      +7

      if you're not using it portable you may as well just get a PC and hook it to the tv?

      • mboy on 09/01/2023 - 14:32

        I agree with you as far as value goes, but then I have to boot into Windows and use a mouse & keyboard from the couch. I'm willing to pay extra for the ease-of-use (I know, anti-Ozb values) and the possibility of occasional portable use.

        • cc23 on 09/01/2023 - 14:40
          +4

          I have a steam deck with the dock. This isn’t a good idea FYI. The steam deck is a miracle because it’s on a tiny screen, when you put it on a big screen… it’s clear that it’s meant to be played handheld.

          • mboy on 09/01/2023 - 14:47

            @cc23: Thanks for the input. That's surprising to me, because it outputs to 4k. Are you trying to play current-gen games on it? Surely, low-intensive older/indie games would like crisp when outputting 4k (or even 1080p)?

        • scuderiarmani on 09/01/2023 - 14:47

          While I haven't, you don't necessarily to have to install Windows in such a situation.

        • MagnamoniousRex on 09/01/2023 - 15:15
          +2

          In the current Steam Beta you can boot Windows directly into the new Steam Deck interface without ever seeing the desktop, and do everything with a controller.

          This gives you all of the advantages of a PC and Steam Deck minus the portability.

          • theo96 on 09/01/2023 - 16:55

            @MagnamoniousRex: Do you mean the current SteamOS Beta supports dual-boot? I know dual-boot is coming but no indication of timeframe.

            Dual-boot would be handy — currently I have to volume-down + power on every time to boot into Windows from the SD card.

            • hami101 on 09/01/2023 - 17:59
              +2

              @theo96: Nope, they mean the Steam application on Windows can now take over on boot and launch big picture mode. Gives you the benefits of Steam Deck UI without worrying about compatibility.

    • aveeno bb on 09/01/2023 - 14:28
      +1

      The drawback is that Steam Deck is not strong enough to play games to look good on a PC. For your use case perhaps buy an Intel NUC or a more powerful UMPC (Ava Neo and the likes), but they would be more expensive I guess.

      • mboy on 09/01/2023 - 14:33

        Actually doesn't worry me too much. For graphics-intensive, I've got the current gen consoles. The Steam Deck will be predominantly for older games and indie games.

        • aveeno bb on 09/01/2023 - 14:35
          +1

          Yeah that's kinda my use case too, except I won't be playing games on TV using Steam Deck. Mostly would be using to play older games like GTA IV on the move. Mostly using my desktop and gaming laptop to play AAA games.

      • jirskyr on 09/01/2023 - 15:13

        I played Elden Ring on a Steam Deck in the UK a few months ago and it ran well (caveat: I had not played Elden Ring before, just judging from first-time use). You are right that it won't match a real PC and won't project well onto TVs, but on the smaller SD screen running a lower resolution it proved very capable.

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