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ASUS ROG Rapture GT-AX11000 Wi-Fi 6 Router $549 Shipped @ Computer Alliance
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feels like a missed opportunity not to add one in a middle … really big one!
Back in my day, we used coat-hangers bent into dick-and-balls, or hand-with-middle-finger-up. SBS went from snow to grainy (almost HD-equiv)
This is what a Wi-Fi 8 router will look like:
https://pyxis.nymag.com/v1/imgs/0ca/511/85764f04d4594e15df60…
Aesthetically kylo ren spaceship from netgear is more appealing. However, asus have more features without subscription and can do your own mesh with their routers
When I see a $550 domestic router like this one I always wonder how much real world performance users actually "see" in local network and internet performance over, say a mid range $250 model in "normal" use case (is 4-5 users, streaming, gaming, torrenting etc). I have a hunch it's probably not a lot in practical terms. Am I wrong?
This can handle 12 streams which the lower end ones can not, so houses purely on a wireless network would actually get less congestion with 12 simultaneous streams.
So there is actually a lot of benefit to this over the $250 mid tiers.
If this router has enough range in your home, it can replace a meshed network with one device. If the range is limiting then a mesh may be better.You right, tri band help reduce congestion.
Furthermore each band can have 4 dedicated streams (you will see it as 4x4 MiMO)
Therefore 4 for 2.4, 4 for 5ghz 1 and 4 for 5ghz 2. = 12 devices .@maverickjohn: Did you know is any 4X wifi card on the market?
@castback: Not sure honestly. But in my home my ring spotlight cam each need one stream. So the 2.4ghz is already used up.
The 2x 5ghz would be used for things like my playstation, iMac, our mobile phones/tablets and tv etc.
Remember this is only beneficial if your house is fully wireless. If you connect devices via cable etc. The befits of this higher end router are remarkably less.
From my netgear nighthawk app. My wife's iPhone 13 pro max take 2 streams in their own. I blocked one and her phone still connects so unsure why that happens@maverickjohn: Bro you need to learn more about wifi before educating people on it.
Devices don't 'take' streams. They share use of them with anything else also using that stream. Your cameras would be 5mbps at most. You've got the other 95% of each precious stream begging to be used.
@waade395: I did and hence why i shared this info. As mentioned further down the congestion on that band happens after 4 devices are connected.
My intention was to let people know that there is a place for this and its for wifi heavy households. As the congestion is reduced with more streams available. My whole point has been if you rely solely on wifi networking for households more streams equals less congestion. I havent indicated anything else. I used the wifi cam set up in my household as when they have a dedicated channel the rssi to that stream has been stronger than when i have a network with less stream count. It could be mere coincidence but from the info mentioned in the links provided it also seems that signals as well as data is at max performance when having same amount of devices matching the max stream count per band.
@castback: Not really no.
There's this 11ac one from Asus, but it's expensive and EOL. https://www.amazon.com.au/ASUS-802-11AC-Wireless-AC3100-Adap…
Outside of that are cards that are meant for embedded applications, either keyed in weird M2 formats (AE key), or in mPCIe card. I don't believe either would come with any form of windows support. (That and supply your own antennas please.)
@Namidairo: @Namidairo
I don't get it if nothing for pc and how the mobile device use up 4X antena and need this super high speed wifi. Unless you have lots wifi device at home. But I guess AC3100 or AX 3000 router shoud be able to handle your internet need.
Streams?
@maverickjohn: A stream doesn’t equal one user.
@stratbargain: It can or a device can use up more than one stream to increase network speed usage.
https://kb.netgear.com/000059686/What-is-a-12-stream-router-…
" If your device doesn’t support 12 streams, overall reliability and speed still improves due to increased diversity.This technology is especially important for multi-user, multiple-input, multiple-output (MU-MIMO) capability because it allows your router to communicate with more devices simultaneously. "
@maverickjohn: My point is a device can use multiple streams to increase performance but you suggested earlier that a doorbell is using one stream which suggests other devices can’t use it concurrently which isn’t true. You aren’t limited to 12 devices in total. Sure the more devices being uses concurrently there is less bandwidth to go around but you aren’t going to hit a device limit any time soon
@stratbargain: Sorry my intention is that its the max potential in that case for that band. You can still add devices to that band but the congestion to that band starts taking affect.
You need to google SouthPark streaming wars for real life explanation, don't listen to random folks on a website including me ;)
Most people would be on under 100mbps internet with nothing hosted locally so a 12x12 router is massive overkill and of no benefit to anyone except Asus' shareholders.
This is literally nothing to do with internet. The points i made were about simultaneous device connections. That was all i ever mentioned.
I can tell unless you have lots use on nas, otherwise no much different on daily use.
Am I wrong?
Yes, it has been proven that an RGB logo and antennae on your network router dramatically improves both network speeds and frame rates in games
/s
And don’t forgot the insane amount of attention from the opposite/same gender you’ll get!
For simple, it is a must and it is a fair price if you have a large house and a the home server and also want to build mesh network.
Of course there is a cheaper solution, you can use old PC to build your DIY router. compare this all in one solution.
I'm still rocking the AC5300 older version.
Great router. I imagine this would be even betterDesigner: How many external antennas do you want?
ASUS: YesAny idea when the next gen can be sell in Australia?
The axe11000 is already on sale here. Axe16000 is coming soon
I hear about this before COVID..and after 3 years it is still coming soon. lol..
The axe16000 is only newly released in the states.
Axe11000 has been out for a while but recently came to australia.
Is this much of an improvement over ASUS TUF-AX5400 Dual Band WiFi 6
Im pretty sure only you could answer that. If you are having no issues with devices connecting to the router then it wouldnt be for you.
What would you realistically expect to gain from this router?It's hard to say , I'm pretty happy with what I have but sometimes Netflix doesn't quite buffer to 4k for a minute or two , nothing major but again not sure if that is to do with isp or router as well . I'm on 250 mb down fttp plan
I had that issue with my old router. Maybe just check how many devices are attached to the band that you use your tv on. If there are multiple devices all using same band maybe move some to the other band and see if it improves
@maverickjohn: Well that's the question , how many devices can my current router handle , I have over 12 , 3 TVs , Xbox , few iPads, phones , i have another cheaper wifi 6 router downstairs for air mesh and they swap when other devices are in range …..I could use a 3 channel but it's a lot of coin for bit of buffering :)
@botchie: Just buy the cheaper rx58u and do a wireless backhaul then and see how that works out. You would have a proper mesh network which opens bandwidth significantly
@maverickjohn: Yeah I have ASUS RT-AX55 as well, maybe I will play around with them a bit more to optimise it all, thx
This'll go great with my 50mbps NBN plan
Can I AI Mesh ? I have wired backhaul between the two locations I would put up old router.
I have a Netgear r7000 Netgear running the Asus firmware port with AIMesh… only wifi 5 but ok for back for house.
The plan is to buy a wifi 6 router (like this one) and put the old one as a mesh slave back of house
The kids computers (3x) are all wired to a switch to current location and would benefit from gaming latency optimisation
You can def air mesh Asus with Asus, very easy too , not sure about Netgear
I think AI Mesh is software so as it runs the Asus firmware it should work.
. if it doesn't I still should get better coverage than current system
mmm maybe I could be fine with Asus Ax5400 for our family usage (lota of wifi devices) TV and gong PCs and NAS all wired
ASUS TUF-AX5400 Dual Band WiFi 6 Gaming Router with Dedicated Gaming Port, AiMesh, 5400 Mbps, OFDMA, MU-MIMO, 160 MHz Channels, Aura RGB Lightning https://amzn.asia/d/i078orv
Yeah I have that one, bought it from UK amazon for $160 , it was a major upgrade to my old Telstra gen 2 modem , but now I have over 15 devices connected and am questioning if I need an upgrade , but works great
Only issue with uk version is it’s half the output power
@vodamerc: I heard about that but not sure what it does ? Lower wifi range ? I don't have issues with that
@botchie: Yes, lower "power" means less energy is converted to electromagnetic waves (WIFI signal)… so your range will suffer, or stability at range.
It will also mean your handheld devices use more battery power to connect.
(The same reason you DO want a mobile phone tower close by - The less your mobile phone has to boost its signal power right next to your brain or groin, to get its TX back to the tower… these people who object to localised mobile phone towers don't understand how TWO way comms on wireless works! They saccutally make the thing they worry about worse)
For this price you can buy a refurb Mini PC + 2 Unifi 6 Lite AP's and have a beast Openwrt router.
would this solution of a Mini PC with open wrt (not familiar with it) allow me to log site access by MAC address? I have 3 boys …
Maybe a raspberry pi could help in that situation. If it works as an adblock surely it could log sites visited too
… and have a beast
OpenwrtOPNsense router
Someone release a router with more than 1GB RAM!
Phones at half the price have more.
Does anyone like me thinking this looks like an upside down spider?
How many antennas do you want? Yes!
I have one of these, its awesome, running merlin, most of my house is wireless and ive got gigabit internet. I have a big two story house and this services everything wirelessly outside my study (server, my pc and nbn). I run mulitple VPNs (router managed) and this router uses hardware acceleration to provide much better speeds over openvpn. I get around 800mbit to the far end of my home to stream UHD bluray to my HTPC no dramas. It also lets me use my google-mini in the back corner of my block. My kids are all gamers so this provides great speeds to their rooms (upstairs, and router is downstairs).
Yeah its a lot of coin, but the things been flawless and is piss-easy to setup using merlin or the regular asus firmware. I upgraded from a netgear Nighthawk X6 R8000 and this way better for my needs.
Cheers
How big is your house? I have a 45square double story house that I'm currently using orbi rbk50 mesh router with one satellite via ethernet backhaul. Considering my options on an upgrade at the moment.
Mate 45 sqm is one room plus bathroom
45 squares does not equal 45sqm
https://www.google.com/search?q=1+square+to+m2&client=ms-and…
@nhutty: 🤔
I'm waiting AX11000 Pro
Awesome deal but I think I’m gonna wait for Netgear RAXE500 to come down a bit in price
Is this one you after? $549
https://www.devicedeal.com.au/netgear-nighthawk-tri-band-wif…Close! That one looks like RAXE300 which is the entry level one. RAXE500 is the higher end one. Best price I found so far was $799 on eBay using one of those codes that comes around from time to time.
@JHoliday
Yeah, not sure how it will end up.https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/185715693755?chn=ps&_ul=AU&norov…
@castback: Wow nice find, how is it so cheap??
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Doesn't look like you can check out with that seller :(
I have the 300 and there are perks over the 500. Such as fanless design. Focuses more on airflow than moving parts. But understand the appeal of the 500. In all fairness the rax200 is probably better than 500 though as the 6ghz range is very limited. As long as you are aware of that before you buy
That model looks pretty tempting… But wondering if I should bite the bullet on the Asus because I've already got an existing Asus and then I can use aimesh supposedly. (although I'll be upset if this beast can't cover the whole house TBH!, That's the only reason I'm looking to upgrade ATM)
The only 6e device I have is a laptop and it gets fast enough speed on wifi with the current modem (if I'm close enough lol)
Interested in how fast it can run if you turn it over .
It says on title 11000 a/x :-)
Isnt this an old router? Axe and beyond is out by now surely
I don't find much wifi card for pc anyway. And not many mobile phone have wifi6E anyway.
Mortein really does work after all.
I don’t understand how people could be this passionate about speed and networking and yet not run ethernet cables.
Some are limited. They may be renting or in an apartment block which may not allow additional cables to be run in the walls. Sure you could run them on the ground but then you may face a trip hazard or a pet chewing on the cable.
Cables wired up the walls may be unsightly too.
Thankfully I was run cable relatively discreetly which gave the added benefit of extra APs at the end of those runs.
Not enough antennae