Seems like a good price for a 1440p 144hz nano IPS HDR10 monitor. Comes with an "ergo stand" which looks nifty and hopefully not gimmicky.
LG 27GN850-B review on rtings.
LG 27" UltraGear 27GN880-B QHD 1440p Nano IPS 144hz 1ms HDR G-Sync Monitor $349 + Shipping + Surcharge @ Shopping Express
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LBurningCubez on 27/11/2022 - 00:29 shoppingexpress.com.au (3891 clicks)
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definitely, the counter part (lesser) with the same panel is the dell 27inch which goes on sale for 499 usually.
If I needed a 27 inch 1440p 144hz at this price range, this would definitely be the selection. Its top of the line.Which Dell are you referring to exactly?
The dell s2721dgf
So this is 100% the same as LG 27GN850-B?
Except the stand?
https://www.rtings.com/monitor/tools/compare/lg-27gn850-b-vs…
Pretty much - I think the only differences there are accounted for by standard differences between panels of the same model number
I believe so, you can copy the model number and cross reference the specifications
yes, 27 means screen size, g means ultra gear, N is the manufacture year, 8 is the top level panel, there are 3 levels, 5, 6, 8. second digit 8 means ergo stand, 5 means height adjustable, 0 means not adjustable. last digit always 0. B means back color black.
Not really.thr LG 27gn850-b can be oc to 180hz while the other one cannot
Good deal. Also, the Dell s2721ds is pretty good for non-gaming use (75Hz) with similar specs: https://www.dell.com/en-au/shop/dell-27-monitor-s2721ds/apd/…. RRP $338.
Hmm very tempted. Anyone know if this is the cheapest it's been?
It is, but the 27GP850 is a notable step up, ableit $500 currently.
Good post OP - I'd 100% buy if my table wasnt too thick according to the manual…
The table should be less than 90 mm (3.5 inches) thick.
Why is your table so thick?!
IKEA MICKE desk is obnoxiously thick with no overhang to clamp onto :(
They seem to have the cable hole that most examples of this type of mount can use.
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Got the same message, so devo
OOS! :(
With the LG 27" OLED releasing in about a month, I thought I was done buying LCDs for the rest of my life. Boy I've been proven wrong. The transitional plan now is to flank one of those with two of these I guess.
But yes, there have been some great deals on various models of 27" IPS gaming monitors lately, each with their own merits. This one is probably most similar to the NZXT Canvas 27Q deal a month ago, as that was $250 BYO your own stand for about $50. Assuming you bought an adjustable third-party arm from Amazon, this ends up about $50 dearer than that deal. In exchange you get what most people would consider a more proven model/brand (despite the marginally lower refresh rate) and a more aesthetically pleasing, first-party stand.
The other two notable deals right now are for the $400 Gigabyte M27Q which is probably a slightly better performer but is haunted by that weird BGR subpixel layout; and the LG 26GP850 for $500 which is a generation newer than this deal and comes with a good boost in refresh, but with a conventional and pretty limited stand.
I'd say all three are valid purchases depending on your use case. If you're after the best gaming performance under $500 then it's the 27GP850, but the $100 premium over the $100 is a hard sell for most people shopping in this segment I think. The Gigabyte is loaded with more features than the LG, most notably the in-built KVM switch and USB-C input, but may annoy you in terms of text clarity outside of games. And then we have this 27GN880, which besides being the cheapest, obviously has by far the most versatile stand, a feature which you'd have to fork out $50 extra for if you go for one of the other models. It is pretty barebones besides that though, lacking even an inbuilt USB hub, which the other two models here have.
*Note the M27Q was supposed to be replaced by the M27Q-P which fixed the text issue by reverting to a standard subpixel arrangement. Yet the new model is now gone from just about every store, while the old one has come back in stock at this sharp price. Funny how that works.
Is OLED no good for the gaming monitors?
It'll almost certainly be great for gaming. But there's just one small catch - these LG 27GR95QE-B OLEDs releasing next month that match the size of these LCDs will be, oh, about $1200* more. I could maybe stomach buying one for now, but given I like to run a 3x27" set, going all-OLED is going to have to wait some time.
*I'm estimating based on the US MSRP since there's no pricing information for Australia yet. $1000 USD converted to Aussie dollars, plus GST, converts to around, oh, $1630. I'm sure we'll get 10-20% discounts on it over the course of 2023 but still.
Ahh I see… Very expensive! (especially for 3)
$1600 would be a disappointing starting price for a mature technology. Monitor MSRP is rarely adhered to, but I guess we'll see.
@jasswolf: Yeah, I'm not sure what price would be my trigger to buy just yet. But certainly not a price that close to the Alienware AW3423DW. Not that I'm interested in ultrawides, mind you, but just using it as a point of comparison.
@mystarey: Yeah I'm paying close attention to the 42C2 as a reference point too. I'd be looking at the monitor when it dips below $800, so hopefully they're geared for mass production.
@jasswolf: $1600 would be a good price considering how few other OLED monitors there are out there. I would snap it up instantly if it was that cheap. It has no competition in 27".
@lostn: Their own TV lineup eats into it, Samsung's QD-OLED competes, and miniLED is in the ball park for cinematic HDR.
You've also got FHD 500Hz TN and QHD 360Hz VA & IPS. They can't mess around with price.
Their own TV lineup eats into it
people who want a monitor, don't want a 42" TV. That's just too big for the typical desktop user. The same way a 27" monitor wouldn't compete with someone looking for a living room TV. If they bought a 42" TV to use as a monitor, it's most likely because they didn't have any smaller options to choose from if they want OLED. If your desk was always big enough for 42", then fair enough. But if you're currently using 27" and you want a replacement in OLED, switching to 42" is a big leap and will require an adjustment in how you use your PC and desk.
Make no mistake, this thing will be sold out for months if it's only $1600 AUD. That is cheap for a product that is one of a kind. Until a competitor makes an apples for apples alternative, that's what it will cost. I'm personally expecting $2k+ in AUD. It will be in low supply so those who think it's too expensive won't be the people they are chasing.
Samsung's QD-OLED competes
This is a good thing. But the only panel they make is 34" ultra wide and it's curved. That's not everyone's cup of tea. It's still not a direct analog. 27" flat OLED. No one else makes it. LG has a professional series of 27" and 32" 4K in 60hz, but they are $4k and $5k USD respectively.
You've also got FHD 500Hz TN and QHD 360Hz VA & IPS. They can't mess around with price.
If you're after those things in their price bracket, you're probably not in the market for an OLED monitor anyway. This is for people who want the best PQ, not the lowest price or highest Hz.
@lostn: You're forgetting that people will also have the option of things like the original Samsung G7 240Hz VA, the Samsung G6 (its rebadging) and updated IPS equivalents that will sit in the $550-$700 market.
That's a huge premium for a little bit tighter panel response groupings and HDR capability. That's not sustainable, and that will be pointed out in reviews and commentary very quickly. MiniLED suffers the same considerations: what's a fair premium for decent HDR, and a backlight upgrade that hurts response times if you want to use it at high frame rates and high contrast scenery?
On the 42" TV side of things, it acts like a 2x2 monitor array with 27" QHD pixel density measurements, so you're asking for a massive premium to double the refresh rate, which most people will not be on board for… and the panels are coming off the same manufacturing process… they're just different cuts from the motherglass. That alone shows you if they dare start it at $1700, it will quickly drop to $1000.
This is a good thing. But the only panel they make is 34" ultra wide and it's curved. That's not everyone's cup of tea. It's still not a direct analog. 27" flat OLED. No one else makes it.
Samsung is almost certain to debut a similar product next year, possibly at CES.
LG has a professional series of 27" and 32" 4K in 60hz, but they are $4k and $5k USD respectively.
That pricing is because it uses an inkjet-printed technology from JOLED, who have struggled to get their design to mass manufacturing scale. It's RGB rather than WRGB and binned for near-to professional use, albeit with horrific peak brightness for HDR mastering.
If you're after those things in their price bracket, you're probably not in the market for an OLED monitor anyway. This is for people who want the best PQ, not the lowest price or highest Hz.
You're not understanding me here: the motion resolution is in the same ball park, with the 500Hz TN maybe taking the cake in some respects. If LG are prepared or capable of doing 240Hz BFI though, their option is a step above, but I also believe such a mode would add 1 frame (4.17 ms) of input delay.
You're forgetting that people will also have the option of things like the original Samsung G7 240Hz VA, the Samsung G6 (its rebadging) and updated IPS equivalents that will sit in the $550-$700 market.
Yes, those are options. They just aren't apples to apples analogs. If they were after these, they've been available for a while already and don't compete directly with the 27" OLED.
That's a huge premium for a little bit tighter panel response groupings and HDR capability.
That's the nature of being the first to market in a particular market segment. There will be supply issues, and no direct alternative. When there's more players in the market, and the early adopters have already bought theirs, the price goes down. It depends how long you're willing to wait. With OLED, you get per pixel lighting, low latency, better contrast, and generally a very good gamut. Even screens with hundreds of local dimming zones can't compare. You will get halo effect when you move your mouse cursor around against a dark background.
That's not sustainable, and that will be pointed out in reviews and commentary very quickly. MiniLED suffers the same considerations: what's a fair premium for decent HDR, and a backlight upgrade that hurts response times if you want to use it at high frame rates and high contrast scenery?
Any new product is aimed at early adopters. It's not going to stay that price forever. Market forces will eventually put downward pressure on the price, but in the beginning it's going to be expensive. It will still sell out regardless. Just like graphics cards which people are more than willing to pay above RRP for.
On the 42" TV side of things, it acts like a 2x2 monitor array with 27" QHD pixel density measurements, so you're asking for a massive premium to double the refresh rate, which most people will not be on board for…
The cost of manufacturing the panels is not determined by size, but how the panel is cut. The 48" was not good value when it released because it was cut from the same sheet as 77" TVs, so its sales were dependent on the sales of 77" TVs. It's likely the same effect is limiting their 27" screens. They can't make as many of them as they want, and there are other limitations making smaller screens harder to produce. The 42" TVs have lower brightness than the bigger sizes.
Samsung is almost certain to debut a similar product next year, possibly at CES.
I can only hope they do. But for now, it's speculation. If they show it at CES, you still won't expect to see it until at least Q2 at the earliest.
You're not understanding me here: the motion resolution is in the same ball park, with the 500Hz TN maybe taking the cake in some respects. If LG are prepared or capable of doing 240Hz BFI though, their option is a step above, but I also believe such a mode would add 1 frame (4.17 ms) of input delay.
I just don't see how a TN or VA panel is going to put pricing pressure on LG's OLEDs. The tech speak is not relevant to that. People will buy one or the other, but they aren't going to look into BFI or motion resolution to make a decision. I'm almost certain that whoever wants the 500hz TN panel is not interested in the OLED and vice versa. They're different panels for different people.
The best thing that can happen is more competition in OLED monitors. That will make prices go down and the tech to improve. Until then, the going rate is going to be expensive and aimed at the enthusiast. Same with any tech.
@lostn: Historical evidence and simple logic dictates you're wrong about how long this price point will last, I can't show you the alternatives more strongly, and you refuse to acknowledge that the manufacturing and R&D cost of this panel is quite obviously and substantially lower than the 42C2.
Your design claims about the 42C2 are also false: both the 48" and 42" models are lowered in specs because they don't use a heatsink like the other C2 models. The system for motherglass usage has also been dramatically changed, and that's what has unlocked the monitor opportunities. It's also clear that you haven't looked into AUO's HDR solve for TN at 360Hz+.
The whole point of current monitor reviews and tech discussion is drilling down to see what the benefits are and the ultimate difference in perceived motion blur, and that's getting shown in front of an increasingly mainstream audience… of course it matters.
I'm not interested in your ever-tightening circles while chanting a price. Enjoy your echo chamber of one!
Aussie prices are never simply USD + 10%. There's always an additional markup on top of that.
Is there anything you would recommend in AOC $3-400 i like the look of the AOC Gaming 27G2U.
The 27G2U (recently refreshed in the form of the slightly improved 27G2SP) is an interesting monitor, in that it's essentially the default pick for anyone looking to pick up a good value 27" 1080p IPS gaming monitor. The issue is that's a pretty niche market, most people shopping for a 27" screen will tend to want a higher resolution, as the individual pixels on the 27G2 series end up pretty large, resulting in a fairly coarse image.
The upside of course is that the lower resolution is much less demanding on your PC, giving you more opportunity to take advantage of the high refresh rate. For context though, the sweet spot for gaming these days is typically a 27" 2560x1440 screen, and a typical PC well-suited for powering it would cost around $1500 (with a Radeon 6700 XT or RTX 3060 Ti video card). So the correct choice on 1440p vs 1080p may well depend on your current system.
Anyway, if you want to go down this route, I would suggest trying to see this monitor (or any other 27" 1080p screen) in action before buying. AOC's 1440p solution is the Q27G2S, which is an adequate product. JB's Black Friday pricing for it at $367 is competitive, and it boasts a superior stand to the Gigabyte G27Q, allowing for not just height and tilt adjustments, but also swivel and rotation. However the screen itself is not as well reviewed, it's fine but does not stand out against the intense competition.
Thank you that is really helpful. its mainly for gaming but will try and get in to a shop to see one cheers
the OLED is $1k USD which when released in Australia is probably going to be at least $2k AUD.
The difficult part is that there are so few reputable reviews around for the Lenovo, owing to its limited worldwide distribution. That said, the Lenovo comes out of the gate strong, at least in terms of advertised features. The 165Hz refresh is nice, and it officially supports "10-bit" (8-bit + FRC) colour at 120Hz. The Gigabyte is officially "only" 144Hz and 8-bit colour, though I see in practice it's possible to unofficially enable the same 10-bit 120Hz mode on it.
The problems with the Lenovo start showing after that though: everything else is cut down to the very basics of what to expect from a budget monitor in this field. You get one DP input and one HDMI input, plus a headphone out. That's it. I mean, the Gigabyte is very much built to a price too, but has a bit more to it: a USB hub, a second HDMI input (and they throw in a HDMI cable), more modern OSD adjustment (though stick control versus traditional buttons is a subjective topic) and what I feel is a generally less tacky aesthetic. The functionality of both stands are as basic as can be though. You get height and tilt adjustment only, no swivel or rotation.
Personally I would probably buy the proven product in the Gigabyte. The Lenovo might have a slightly higher technical ceiling, but it sacrifices a lot to get there, and without reliable reviews backing it up, it's unknown whether its advantages actual pan out in real-life usage.
Manage to purchased one to replace my current VA monitor. Thanks OP!
Damn oos would have been nice next to my Dell 2721dgf
Seems you Shopping Express are still selling these on their eBay store approx $467 (that’s with 22% eBay code). Not as good as the OPs deal.
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/334539109974?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mk…
Why are they so cheap? Bit confusing. Are they superior to LG 27GL850-B?
Ozbargain always makes me feel bad i dared to go to sleep for the night.
got one yesterday… now to finish the collection and grab the 2721dgf!
Showing as back in stock, at this price.
I've been refreshing the page since I missed the deal, and suddenly 'add to cart' was available! Checked out without issue.
Was back in stock for me for about 5 minutes, I'm thinking some of the orders were refunded or cancelled
Was back in stock for me, got all the way through ordering, after the PayPal screen, and got sent straight back to insufficient quantity. Dammit
I've been waiting 8 months for a bargain monitor.
I'll prolly just hook it up to Xbox and my gaming laptop.Cant afford a desktop right now.
But this is a good deal right?
Will be good for movies streaming and gaming?Thanks Op I did get one.
Thanks bought one OP!
$30 shipping to WA
worth it?