Encrypted email hosted in Switzerland!
Not as nice as previous 50% off Black Friday sales, but I've been waiting for this one anyway to switch providers.
Proton Unlimited €172.56 (~A$265.90, 40% off) for 2 Years, Proton Mail Plus €39.96 (~A$61.59, 33% off) for 1 Year @ Proton
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Stolen Nazi Enigma code. (Why would anyone down vote the LHC joke?)
Why would anyone down vote the LHC joke?
Maybe they were conCERNed ?
👏👏 You can get the clap from me. Twice.
Because it crashed?
I generally downvote most low-effort jokes that add nothing to the discussion…
It's funny at first but if you use other platforms like Reddit it becomes tiring having to scroll through multiple comments to find any comments of actual value.
I'd much rather get some opinions on ProtonMail like the comments below this and whether this is a good deal or not as opposed to some dumb jokes about LHC/Nazi enigma codes.
chill…
you are just one use case.
Reddit tends to show posts prioritising upvotes so this comment makes little sense. For those tempted to downvote a comment I'd suggest showing a little restraint instead of smashing hate at everything which doesn't conform to their rigid sensibilities as most people enjoy a little harmless humour in life, and if that fails then the mature thing to do is just ignore the comment.
Many of us prefer Gmail alternatives and are more than happy to share our experiences …… if we know we're not about to get downvoted.
This is about people wrongfully thinking that Switzerland is independent and ""neutral" and will not force Proton to provide all information of yours internet activity's to the US force agency when they requested it.
People is enough brainwashed to believe in it, despite that Switzerland many yers ago already give up and broken its promice to keep Banks secrets from any governments. Not any more, and probably its never was.
There no any VPN company in modern world in reality able to keep yours privacy.
I’d be keen to hear of anyone with experience with Proton.
Is it worth changing from Google? I know that privacy is a benefit, but is there any downside? Eg less features, etc.
You have to use their app for emails as their protocols are different to normal email.
But seem alright.
Also you can add a custom email domain (you got to buy first off a site like google domains)
Depends on which Google features you cannot live without. For most email features I quite like the Proton Mail (and app). You can send encrypted emails to non-Proton users to (just have to share a password with them).
One of the main things I miss from Gmail that's not in Proton Mail is the "snooze" email feature, which is handy for things like bills to pop it back up to the top of your emails when the bill is due.
I really like it, it’s used within our company, as well as our family, so the end to end encryption does actually apply for all these emails.
It doesn’t have the AI capabilities of gmail (eg recognising flights and automatically putting into the calendar), and it’s also a hassle to set up with outlook - I just use the web version.
Proton calendar and drive are promising but are just beta products at this stage, I wouldn’t offer any recommendations just yet.
One amazing thing is I’m able to used multiple domain names with ProtonMail, and so my own company’s emails just end up in the same account but different folder (with filtering)
Last tip - choose the ECC curve when setting up a new protonmail account. It’s more secure, as well as being smaller in output, and all modern computers and phones run fine.
I’m with Tutanota and can echo what you said. Was going to fully switch over from Gmail, but the email filtering and processing as well as calendar are obviously nowhere near Google’s product. But in the long run the privacy aspect still wins me over.
I have both Tutanota and Protonmail, the only reason I swing more to Proton is the sheer fact that 9 times out of 10 when I spell my email out over the phone or in person, people have trouble with either hearing or spelling the word Tutanota and I end up having to call back and give it out again, so frustrating, even when I give it out like T for Tango, U for Uniform etc
@BatmanAU: That is annoying. I passed on your experiences to a friend who is looking at signing up to Tutanota soon, thanks.
Can you use your own domain with your Tutanota account instead?
Another solution might be to use an anonymous email forwarding service such as AnonAddy or SimpleLogin? An alias@username that uses simple words might be easier to transcribe. Also means you don't have to share your actual email address.@mintsneeze: I think you can use your own domain at a fee.
I have never used a forwarding service, are they good?
@BatmanAU: They are fantastic. SimpleLogin which mintsneeze recommended is free if you don't have a custom domain. They are now owned by Proton too.
There is a slight learning curve and not using a custom domain will not actually resolve the problem you have with Tutanota. Irrespective, forwarding addresses are very useful for online purchases and various subscriptions.@S2: SimpleLogin paid version is included in Proton Unlimited.
Proton also uses the domain @pm.me which you can use for aliases.
One tip when using Proton. Do not lose your password. If you do you will lose access to all your old emails until you can figure out what your old password was. A password reset will let you access and use the email again but the old emails are encrypted.
@BatmanAU: Good clarification. Yeah you need a paid plan on both Tutanota and Proton Mail to use your own domain.
I started using AnonAddy recently and love it. I don't want to share my private email address. I use AnonAddy aliases, and a custom domain to hide my private email service.
You can choose from username aliases ([email protected]), connect your own domain and use them for aliases ([email protected]) or use shared domain aliases (mailer.me, 4wrd.cc, addymail.com) which use random chars, UUID, or random word prefixes.
Shared domain aliases are limited to 20 (free), 50 Lite or Unlimited on Pro. You can evaluate the paid plans here.I use username aliases for services that might ask or confirm my email over the phone: [email protected]. So I remember the email. For websites where I'll never talk to a person I use a shared domain alias [email protected] with a description so that I know which alias belongs to which service. If you want to remain private, don't use your real name for your username. Simple, short, recognisable english words are best for reasons you've already laid out. Transcribing may still be difficult due to the awkward anonaddy.com domain however. I don't have any experience with that yet.
If you need to create a new alias on the spot you can. A downside with username aliases is if there was a data breach and your [email protected] username email address leaked, anyone can send an email to you at [email protected]. This can be disabled with a setting though.
A final thing I like about AnonAddy is that you can add PGP public keys to your recipients. Every email that gets forwarded is automatically encrypted using that email's public key. That works for Proton as they use PGP, but wouldn't for Tutanota.
People have already covered the main points and there are many videos out there that talk about the differences and benefits, but in simple terms it's all about security. If you don't have high-end security (or don't need it), then stay with google. If you want your stuff kept private or have a reason to have things you send secured, then this is a great product (I'd say one of the leaders).
I’ve used it for 7 years as my primary email, I think in that whole time they had under 1 days downtime
Paying for it with money rather than personal/private data.
I'm sure the CIA and CCP are poring over my emails.
The NSA already has.
Imagine paying for products you use. What a weird concept.
If you aren't paying for a product, then you are the product.
The popular plans are actually bundled with Proton VPN, 500 GB of encrypted storage with Proton Drive and of course a calendar with the Mail app.
Nothing wrong with paying for 'free' alternatives with your data though, to each his own.
Nice find
If you're just a normal, domestic user…..HIGHLY recommended!! Without the need to pay for a "Pro" version or add-ons.
I've been using protonmail for about 4 years now; never had any issues with it, and it does seem extremely secure…
What's not to like?
** NOTE: Mine is only a .com URL….just noticed .me extension in the "I am associated box" down below…
You ok buddy?
I've used protonmail in the past but keep in mind some of the other selling points are half-baked.
ie. protondrive, proton bridge required for 3rd-party mail clients etc.
So while the discount is much better than paying full price, I wouldn't dive into this unless you really trust their security and you don't mind slow app updates and features.
I’ve been with ProtonMail for 6 years and have been paying for their monthly subscription. From my experience they have been relatively good and at this point haven’t missed a beat.
From a usability and practicality standpoint, the email app is fine as it’s crossed platform. Navigating, settings, composing emails, deleting emails, junk mails all working as intended and the behaviour is pretty much similar to the likes of Outlook, Gmail and all the other mail apps out there.
Security and privacy wise, mailbox is encrypted. They have option to use PGP encryption. Image remote content is off by default. It has an option to “remove image metadata”, “request link confirmation” and easy access to email headers. I find ProtonMail spam filter a bit more fluid compared to Outlook and Gmail. To log into a ProtonMail account you need the standard usename and password, 2FA and then a mailbox password for additional security. So 3 steps.
Additional features that maybe somewhat useful to some, identities and aliases. ProtonMail can give you up to 15 alias with some of the free domains @pm.me @proton.me @protonmail.com. You can also setup other domains and link it to your ProtonMail which is quite handy for examples:
All going to the same mailbox. I find this easy to manage my personal and business emails.
Downside? They need to improve their signatures with custom logo and fonts and it doesn’t turn out well on the recipients mailbox email client. Gmail and Outlook have no issues with my custom signature. Other features like ProtonDrive and ProtonCalendar all web base at the moment so I don’t bother with it now until they make it native to their current mail app or create a separate app for it.
Sure 40% off sounds good, but it was already just over 30% off when you bought 2 years up front anyway. So its barely 10% off, but still the cheapest you're probably going to get it.
Yeah was going to say this. There’s always a discount for longer purchases, this just ups it by another 10%. Still good, but maybe don’t dive in on an impulse buy after seeing the 40% figure.
It looks like they finally made the catch-all alias available on lower price points.
They acquired popular email alias service SimpleLogin, now free to all paying Proton customers.
Just paid 12EUR for annual Tutanota sub. Any reason why Proton is worth so much more?
Edit: quick google says Tutanota s 14 eyes (Germany) vs Switzerland neutral. Tuta encrypts email subject and Proton does not, while Proton had superior usability with conversation threads and such. Looks like maybe I could have spent my money better.
The storage differences between Tutanotas 12Euro a year vs Protons Mail Plus are quite different at 1GB vs 15GB.
Add another 2 Euro a month to bump tutanota up to 11GB which makes them quite close.
Both good options.
I have a Protonmail account but not as my main email. I just use the free version, which is good enough but doesn’t have heaps of storage.
I use Posteo.de mostly, which is similar - fully encrypted, based in Germany etc, but their website isn’t as polished and I don’t think they have a dedicated app. I access it using my standard IMAP/SMTP clients. It’s always EUR1- per month which is cheap. I’ve been with them for probably 7-8 years. When I say encrypted, your email box is encrypted with your password as the key, so only you have access to it when logged in.
Been using ProtonMail for maybe 4 years now, seems good. The iOS app is kind of annoying, competing swipe gestures. The web app could be a bit faster on Desktop (but if you install Proton Bridge, I would connect to Thunderbird instead anyway)
Interesting that Switzerland didn't scared when Nazi Germany invaded in all Europeans countries and remained in neutral status, but resent invading to the nazis Ukraine deadly scared it and forced it to become NATO'S member.
Dude, I have no idea what you're going on about.
This is about people wrongfully thinking that Switzerland is independent and ""neutral" and will not force Proton to provide all information of yours internet activity's to the US force agency when they requested it.
People is enough brainwashed to believe in it, despite that Switzerland many yers ago already give up and broken its promice to keep Banks secrets from any governments. Not any more, and probably its never was.
There no any VPN company in modern world in reality able to keep yours privacy.
Why are peoples hyped up using this email? I mean who cares, yes google may look at your shit but we're not anything special. So who cares?
Supposed to be good for activists and journalists to maintain better security and privacy. People in general can also care about their privacy as you don't know how companies will eventually use your personal information or how far they go to develope a profile on you. We might not be special, but it's still invasion of privacy to spy on your every move.
The companies think your special. Special enough to spend a good chunk of money collating your data.
As others have said - today..sure may not be an issue. But in 2 decades it may very well be.
Think how much the world has changed since mobile phones (web access ones say iphone onwards).
Doesn’t look like it’s available for existing subscribers. I’m due for a renewal on the 29th of November after getting a Black Friday deal 2 years ago in 2020.
As @thatsnasty said above. It’s already 34% for a 2 year renewal
34% off the price of unlimited plan is $7.93 USD a month for 2 years ($183.34 USD total)
This Black Friday sale is $ 7.19 USD per month for 2 years ($ 172.56 USD total)Difference is 10.78 USD (16.86 AUD)
It is available to existing subscribers.
If you already have 24-month unlimited you can change your plan to monthly then go back to 24-month and use the code MAILBF2022 and you'll recieve the 40% discount instead of the standard 33%.Yeah, do you know how?
I wasn’t able to get to go work.
I went to renew it showed the 34% for two years.I went to settings in mail and edit billing details. It allows me to add two years.
Only other thing I see is a specific offer tab, which is offering the visionary plan.
I'm not sure about any other situations, I only know that what I outlined above worked for me.
Hi. When you did this, was there any kind of waiting / processing time for switching from 24m to 1m then back to 24 month? Or could you do it all straight away?
No, it was pretty immediate. The whole process took less than a minute.
Does this come with Abba music streaming from Spotify?
No, I'm afraid not
🤮🤮 protonmail
If they offered the business plan at $10 AUD per user per month I would consider it for my family! Why is that? $10 USD at today's rates is about $15 AUD and $15 multiplied by number of family members is substantially a lot more! Why in the world are they lumping families together with businesses anyway?
For a family maybe check this post - https://www.reddit.com/r/ProtonMail/comments/yj5m59/comment/…
Looks like there's a way to get the visionary plan which supports up to 6 people, for 18 EUR a month. The issue is you have to pay for I think 2 years upfront. Still, it might be a good deal for a family where you want 3+ users.
I roll with runbox, gotto keep my amazon orders confirmation emails secure!
Gold! Wow I'm going to look into runbox a bit more now before joining but it is looking good XD Cheers @Goremans
Hmmm were you effected by the DDoS in Oct last year? Would you know if they have beefed up their defenses?
Yeah i got notified, i dont think data was taken, just service down.
Edit: I believe they have mitigated against dos attacks now (as much as one can)
I have a genuine question, what kind of secure info that you would normally use within protonmail that you wouldn't normally use on free service like gmail or hotmail?
What I find, I used email to send sensitive info, like driver license to mortgage broker / tax agent, but lately I've been using Bitwarden send, based on this scenario, I imagine I don't need protonmail then?
Thanks
You use it because you value your privacy.
Same as using curtains at your house. No one really gives a crap what happens inside, but you do feel better having them.
I use free ProtonMail for truly private stuff and moved all my emails to InfoManiak. For files I use Mega.
Sourced from the LHC ?