Just got this to go with my BYD
There is also this one for 22kW if your car supports it for around $220 with discount.
https://www.ozbargain.com.au/comment/12548791/redir
7kW Type2 ev cable
using coupon EVSE10 and its 197.10
Just got this to go with my BYD
There is also this one for 22kW if your car supports it for around $220 with discount.
https://www.ozbargain.com.au/comment/12548791/redir
7kW Type2 ev cable
using coupon EVSE10 and its 197.10
It’s awesome
I never understood why these cables are so expensive. I guess it's another EV tax.
Made of Chinesium.
It's a rare earth.
More seriously, good to see a standard emerging across brands.
Made of Chinesium
No doubt in a sweat shop … I wonder how one ethically sources Chinesium?
2m x 30A cable is maybe $10. Then you just need to 3D-print a pair of plugs :-)
Then you just need to 3D-print a pair of plugs
Or you can buy them for a few bucks on aliexpress.
Where? Was $75 ea when i checked.
@bargaino: https://www.aliexpress.us/item/1005003112352955.html
I think I've seen them around $20 … not showing up google now.
Also not sure if these include the electronics to advertise the charging rate.
@salmon123: Those are $90 each delivered!
@bargaino: Lol … maybe better to jump on this deal and salvage it for parts.
@salmon123: I think we now know why these are so expensive. :-)
@pegaxs
Nah, I got a 3 phase, 22kW cable. These are ok for being lighter than a 3phase cable, but not by much.
If you only plan to buy a 7kW, single phase car and only ever plan to buy them, then sure, have at it, but for a few extra $$'s, you are better off future proofing and getting a 3 phase cable anyway.
You’re better off shelling out for the 3ph one for 11kw/h charging (for a model 3).
do you mean 22kw/h?
Probably means 11kW (max AC charging rate on model 3)
With a '22kW' cable eg - https://evse.com.au/product/5-metre-type-2-to-type-2-ev-char…
3-phase x 30A is about 22kW. (hours don't come into it.)
Definitely go for bigger kw and 7m length
Tesla’s 7m one is probably the best value at $310
also comes in cool blue colour too!
How's the Tesla 7m vs https://evse.com.au/product/5-metre-type-2-to-type-2-ev-char… ?
Is it basically the same but just longer?
waiting for wireless EV charging. park in garage, gets charged.
Working on it…
Will fry your brain and any nearby electronics.
The efficiency losses would be insane.
Would love to see things magically turn into hot plates when inside the em field of that magnitude
Park, charge and fry up some bacon, win win in my books.
I thought this was for a T-Rex..
Now I need to search for spec savers bargains :(
Would the 22kw 3 Phase cable be worth getting over this one if the max charging speed is 7kw? Like would it reduce energy lost during charging?
Doubt there's greater losses with higher current. Possibly it would result in greater losses (most batteries prefer slower charging), but with most of these things convenience/utility outweighs ultimate efficiency concerns.
LFP doesnt care.
Only for future proof, otherwise no need.
Like would it reduce energy lost during charging?
That's not how these cables work.
In a 7kW cable, there is only a single phase, so there is only one copper main wire down the cable.
In a 22kW cables, there are 3 main copper wires inside the cable, one for each phase.
If your car only supports 1 phase charging (ie: BYD), it will only use one of the inner copper wires to charge. It doesn't spread the load over all three copper cables.
Depends on your car. If you use a single phase cable on a Tesla Model 3 or Y, you'll only get 3.6kW (16A, one phase), as the onboard charger is limited to 16A per phase. If you use a three phase cable you'll get 10.8kW (3.6kW, or 16A per phase)
Incorrect
Tesla will charge 7kw single phase
Tesla’s can do 32A 7kW single phase or 16A*3 11kW 3 phase.
Heed my warning everyone - you don’t want this cable, you want the 22kw 3 phase one. Yes, even if your car only supports single phase or you think 7kw is enough.
Why - it’s as speedster said. Most public AC chargers are 16a 3 phase, making 11kw. Because this cable only supports one phase, you will max at 3.6kw using this cable on these chargers.
It will hit 7kw on 32a chargers (single or 3 phase), but these are more rare.
even if your car only supports single phase
Most public AC chargers are 16a 3 phase
Hang on a second. If your car only supports 1φ 7kW charging, that means it needs to be supplied 32A on a single phase to get 7kW. A 3φ charger that can only supply 16Ax3 will only be able to supply 16Ax1 no matter what cable you use, so getting a 3φ 22kW cable for an EV that only supports 1φ will still only be able to supply 3.6kW from that 3φ charger, same as the 1φ 7kW cable.
You are right, sorry. No gains to be had for cars with single phase charging only, but definitely worth it for the majority of EVs that do support 3 phase.
Even if your current car is single phase only, your next car may not be. The price difference is negligible enough that I think it’s worth buying regardless of your current car.
Even if your current car is single phase only, your next car may not be. The price difference is negligible enough that I think it’s worth buying regardless of your current car.
Fully agree there. EV's aren't going away and charging speeds will only get faster in new models.
Nope, no efficiency gain from a 22kW cable. Both cables will use 16mm2 cores, but the 22kW cable will have an extra 2 cores for the other 2 phases which will go unused in your case.
I bought the 22kW 5m one for $220, it is good. It is thick and 5m is probably borderline in terms of handling, rolling it all up and putting it in a suitable case. So far it has worked great for me.
But it is not that long, if you expect to have to park 1 spot away from the charger, then consider the 7.5m one that Tesla sells. That is good value.
Will this plug into my 2 stroke generator?
Does your 2 stroke generator have a Type 2 Mennekes plug on it?
No, can u use a coat hanger?
Does your 2 stroke generator have a coat rack on it?
Not any more, the blue smoke spoiled my clothes.
What is a good value 3 phase charger to get?
Hard to beat the Tesla Wall Connector.
Get the 22kw one. I got for model 3 and model y and can changed at 11kw at shopping centre chargers. Even the new MG 2022 supports 11kw charging so better to pay a little more to use it in future with most brands 11kw or a few support 22kw ac charging. EVSE is good order arrived the next day.
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