My First post.
Just spot this deal. Think this is the best price ever. Personally, I will wait for 7X3D next year. The 5800X3D is still one of the best CPUs for gamers.
Update: Currently out of stock, product is now on back-order. ETA is unknown
My First post.
Just spot this deal. Think this is the best price ever. Personally, I will wait for 7X3D next year. The 5800X3D is still one of the best CPUs for gamers.
Update: Currently out of stock, product is now on back-order. ETA is unknown
When I last looked, the 5600 (which is pretty much equal to 5600X in performance) is best value due to AM4 motherboards being significantly cheaper than LGA1700.
I think the 12400 would win if you didn't consider the cost of motherboard. Prices might have changed since then so may have to relook
AM4 B550 boards are still a bit cheaper than LGA1700 B660 however the 12400 slightly outperforms the 5600 especially for single core heavy games so for some it might be worth the extra $50 or so.
12400 imo is the best bang for buck going around.
Not sure on current pricing, but more going on original prices. Presume Ryzen has gone down more atm.
I got my AMD Ryzen 7 5800X back in july 2021 for 609 on amazon delievered.
different cpu
Stay ignorant.
@Axelstrife: Unless you have a shitty graphics card your not going to notice a difference in games, what you see on paper vs what you actually see is to different things. Unless you do Video editing or something that will use the CPU more. very little difference will be seen between a 5800x and 5800x3d. So for all those people that believe that specs are the end all. Software controls the hardware unless that software is optimised for that hardware then specs are irrelevant. In reality Ignorant people think they know it all and won't listen to actual facts.
@kungfuman: I look at real world in game fps comparisons for both average and 1% lows. No one uses the numbers that Intel or amd shows when they announce the CPUs as they don't show what you actually get.
Ignorant people think they know it all and won't listen to actual facts.
You literally described yourself.
@Axelstrife: exactly what I am talking about delusional people calling other people ignoate because they don't want to look at the facts. Clearly you didn't read the rest or understand the rest lol you just want to find something that you could give a ignorant responce too lol. Also you look at what ever people tell you online. And your exactly what I said you are, someone like likes specs and not real life performance. Your trusting someone that doesnt' have the exact hardware you have that most likely has different conditions to you and you think that is going to be the same results for you lol. Comparisons are a guide that are taken with a grain of salt. There not going to determin your real world performance doing what you do. As I said if your a gamer you won't notice the diffence.
@kungfuman: Actually, it's the opposite. If you have low-mid range GPU, you're likely bottlenecked by that.
Those with high end GPUs getting bottlenecked by CPU will really see the uplift in performance.
Although, I believe the 1% and 0.1% lows are still improved even in mid range builds so not completely pointless but not very worthwhile either
Your also wrong with the video editing part too, the 5800X3D has limitations on power so will not boost as high. The 3D cache doesn't help in video rendering so you end up slightly worse off with 5800X3D instead of a 5800X
The 7000 series is the next generation of desktop Ryzen and they are out
Also the 5800X3D beats the 7000 series in many games so it isn’t “the same crap”
@FireRunner: small changes isn't massive leaps in performance unless you can tell the difference visualy then there is no point in upgrading a 5800X to a 5800X3D if you had a 3000 series then yes a 5800X3d woudl be a massive jump in performance but 5800x to a 5800x3d? if you can proove you can see the difference and even with just quoting benchmarks there aren't huge gains to say the least. Then sure I will say go for it. But if you see little to no difference then its the same crap. talking about bottlenecks, you won't know what people would have hardware wise so how can you even determin that there going to have the same performance as what is on paper. There is no way you can say yeah based on someone else benchmarks that were done on different hardware to yours you will get better performance? Most people don't look at what the benchmarks are they look at what it does in real time with the software they use. If it works better they will see that. Also its its the 7000 series apologies I got the name of the series wrong I was indicating the NEXT gen cpus regardless.
@kungfuman: Of course I have to base my argument on independent benchmarks, I don’t have both these CPUs sitting around to drop into my PC lol.
You can infer what kind of performance uplift (if any) based on looking at multiple benchmarks from a range of different configurations. But under the right conditions, the 3D cache makes a substantial improvement.
Whether it’s a worthwhile upgrade will depend on your current and planned future hardware as well the games you play. It definitely isn’t the “same crap” as the non-3D version by any objective viewpoint
Wow, you may have outdone dreamscene above…. Amazing.
Ummm should I upgrade my 3800x? I mainly play games on 1440p and occasional photo editing with capture one and affinity photo. I am currently using 3090.
In the same boat. I'm leaning towards a No though. Rather just save the money at this point.
Not really worth it at higher resolutions.
If I had a 3090 I definitely would be upgrading.
Same boat here, I am actually more tempted if 5900x can drop price. Use mine as workstation
are you having issues with rendering or you need to have photos render quicker?
Ltt 7 series review below. Head to approx ~3.40 mins to see how 5800X3D actually stacks up superwell compared to 7 series.
Zero reason to move to 7 series if your purely gaming and have the 3d. Its just as fast if not faster and uses less power
Say I use my PC for gaming and occasionally for Adobe creative cloud and streaming. Would it be better for me to purchase this or a 5900x? I currently have a 4690k and a 1080ti (I don't really upgrade often obv)
I wouldn't buy into a new AM4 system at this point. You've waiting this long, wait until 7700X/B650, or 13th gen Intel, are reasonable prices (at a guess 6 months? Could be less) then upgrade to a new CPU/mobo/RAM/GPU
Wait for the new Intel range. The Ryzen 7000 series looks a tad underwhelming atm.
Especially given a likely 3d model comes out later on anyway…
Damn that went quick
gah, 5950x or this. :(
this if primary purpose is gaming, 5950 for productivity/gaming
yeah, i'm mainly running VMs and occasional gaming.
looked at the review from gamers nexus, i should stick to waiting for lower priced 5950x and hope there's no new versions with more L2 sizes .
7k series for productivity. For traditional workloads it's up to 60% faster, particularly multi core/threaded.
@[Deactivated]: i've already have a am4 system, initially built to replace a dead intel desktop, due to chip prices going crazy, i settled for a 3700x… so going into 7k right now will be a much more expensive exercise.
any deals on the motherboard guys? and what's the difference betweeb b550 and x570 apart from another pcie 4.0 m2 slot on x570?
I thought the MSI MPG b550 Gaming Plus was pretty decent value for $189, I wanted a mobo that had usb C on the back and could support the USB C on the front panel too.
X3D
This or 5900x or 5950x.
FPS games only (paired with 3080/3090/3090ti)
For gaming, 5800X3D
If you need it for productivity as well then 5950X. If you game at 4K or 1440p ultra with a 3080/6800 tier GPU then 5950X. For everything else 5800X3D.
Doing my first AMD 5000 series build (5700x and B550i) and ram selection is daunting. Reading lots about single rank vs dual rank, 3200 vs 3600…Anyone have any advice? happy with the ram you're currently using? Can you tell me if it's single or dual rank, because it's not always easy to find out until you buy it. Any help appreciated.
Dual and single rank aren't terribly important if you aren't extreme overclocking.
For the 5000 series what's important is that you either get a 3200 with CL16 or a 3600 with CL18. There are other combos that mesh well with the 5000s, but those 2 are going to be the easiest/cheapest to find. It's ok/great if the CL is a lower number for either speed and still a good deal.
But then also remembering to set it to 3200/3600 and then the FKL multiplier to the corresponding amount for the infinity fabric thingo.
Thanks. What you have described I'm aware of, and practice when choosing ram (middle ground budget), but the whole single and double rank threw me. So much mixed info online…with dual rank giving bit more frames. Then you have the motherboard ram topology to factor in, it's a lot to take in and research.
I have a feeling this could become the new normal price as there were mumblings that AMD was going to drop the price on the 5800x3d.
Mwave has dropped their price to $619 - https://www.mwave.com.au/product/amd-ryzen-7-5800x3d-8core-1…
ShoppingExpress to $609 - https://www.shoppingexpress.com.au/buy/amd-ryzen-7-5800x3d-4…
what people sell there second hand cpus ill finally be able to upgrade.
dream cpu but ill need a new graphics card when I buy it anyways
I wonder how the new AMD CPUs 7X3Ds will stack up against the just announced ..
The Intel Core i9-13900KS will be the flagship Raptor Lake CPU, featuring 24 cores and 32 threads in an 8 P-Core and 16 E-Core configuration. The CPU is configured at a single-core boost clock of 6.0 GHz (1-2) cores. The CPU will be featuring 68 MB of combined cache and a 125W PL1 rating that goes beyond 253W. The CPU can also consume up to 350W of power when using the "Extreme Performance Mode" which we detailed a few hours ago here.
Core i9-13900KS 8+16 (24/32) - 3.2 /6.0 GHz - 66 MB Cache, 125W (PL1) / 253W (PL2)+
Core i9-12900KS 8+8 (16/24) - 3.4 / 5.5 GHz - 30 MB Cache, 125W (PL1) / 241W (PL2)
While the initial 13th Gen Raptor Lake CPU lineup is planned for launch on the 20th of October, the Intel Core i9-13900KS would launch in early 2023 in limited quantities. The pricing should be close to the $699-$749 US figure.
Pretty sure the Zen 4 CPUs will get a price drop when Raptor lake comes out, so I'd wait for an even further price reduction on the 5800X3D if you're wanting to pick one up.
Thanks for the post though!
Probably not worth re-listing, but if people are looking for stock, BPC Tech have it for same price of $609.
what's the go-to value build atm?
5600x or 12400?