For those who missed out on the Big W promo, went past Target, Castle Plaza SA today and saw it for $120 on sale from $200. Not sure for how long but normal catalogue ends Wednesday(Although this wasnt i the catalogue i saw). Combine with $50 Oral B cashback = $70 for a $200 toothbrush, not too bad!
makes you coffee too. ;)
or rather, doubles up as a very good milk frother.
$70 is great considering i paid $150 for mine originally…
It's wireless! ;)
Android version coming next year!
Cyanogenmod will let you drill with it as well. ;)
Great been looking for a way of dumping my Dentist,(that doesn't involve a trip to asia.)
Stocktake Sale Catalogue (bottom right p17): 25-40% off Oral Care (Thu, 07 Jun - Wed, 13 Jun)
eg Precision Clean (4) brush heads $19.95 (25% off)
Vitality Brush $24 (40% off)
So Triumph IQ5000 must be 40% off (RRP $199, sale $120)
(5 cleaning modes, wireless display, 3 brush heads, charger base to hold heads, travel charger & case)
$19.95 Single mode model (ProCare 500 with 1 head) still 1/2 price ($49.95-$30 CashBack) at DJs
http://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/71908
None left in DJ sydney city. it is sold like free.
CashBack & claim for refund if not satisfied up to 180 days after purchase: http://www.oralb.com.au/offers/
"For any claim concerns or queries please call our consumer hotline on Ph 1800 782 437"
Target Catalog states No Rainchecks
Can it be price matched in HN?
has anyone checked target canberra centre for stock?
What's so good about this one? We use the $30 one, what does the extra $170 get you?
Haha which $30 toothbrush are you talking about? Either way, this one is likely to give you
+16% RPM
+40,000 pulsations/min
+4 brushing modes/battery indicator levels
a smiley face timer that turns into a frown when you brush too hard or for too long
Good price if you're looking to use the best of the best. Although us poor blokes are better off with the more economical $20 Professional Care 500 model thanks to the recent clothing deals. God I regret not buying more from the ICONIC!!!
damn… nowadays poor blokes can buy $20 tooth brushes… and i must be a tightass homeless because I still use a manual toothbrush that cost less than $7.
$7 for a manual toothbrush? That's crazy talk. What does it do that my $2.95 toothbrush can't?
You rich folk and your fancy $2.95 toothbrushes, lordin' it about like you own the place. Two-pack for $3 at Aldi, now that's the deal
well, forgot to mention, i always ask my friends to get some of the hotel toothbrushes for me… comes with free tooth paste that can last me a while. ;)
My toothbrushes are bought in Hong Kong. They are a mix of some Japanese brand which only costs less than $2 each, $3 for 2. Better than the $4 one here IMO.
It is about addiction.
When I use the $30 ones, I will never want to use the manual one. vice versa, after using the $50 one, I don't want to use the $30 one. Same for the Triumph and others. Just felt I have not brushed if I use other toothbrush other than Triumph.
Totally true! A $20 capital might seem like a steep price if you're using a $7 toothbrush, but you only have to buy $5 toothbrush heads in future which makes owning a better brush cheaper in the long run if you're into premium manual toothbrushes - $7 each really????
Besides, it's more about how much you saved on your toothbrush ($75) rather than how much you paid for it ($15) :P
not really.
you need to take into consideration on the electricity needed to charge the batteries,and the lifespan of the products' battery.
Any typical rechargeable battery has a max life span of 2 years. In the manual brushing world, this equates to be about 4-8 changes (once every 6 mths or once every 3 mths, depending on how tight you are.)
I let you work out the sums based on this criteria, but I can tell you that you won't breakeven after 2 years on automatic.
*note our argument is on costs, not on features of manual vs auto toothbrushes.
*note, we have not taken into consideration depreciation, obsolescence and wear/tear on auto into the scenario yet.
Users have reported the LiMH batteries last, unlike the NiCds in the cheaper OralBs
I have had my oral B PC 500 for over 15 years
huguespt on 30/05/2012 - 22:41 http://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/71350
I found the NiCds lasted 2 years in an older Vitality equivalent model.
(LiMH should read NiMH above)
I find the 15 years life (if on original batteries) hard to believe, but I still use old Arlec NiCd AA's after that length of time. Many of the cheaper NiMH died after 5 years of light use.
Still, my 2 years use out of the cheapest ($20) OralB was disappointing & uneconomic. Hope my latest $15 ProCare500 lasts.
using a 15 years old dental care product is gross. Would be an interesting bacteria culture experiment on the handle swabs.
in any cases, most consumer electronics are designed not to last, (or they get obsolete) otherwise the business will not survive. It's naive to think that you can get more than 5 years out of any modern CEs.
problem with rechargeables is still the memory effect.
They are designed to be washed in a diswasher (not the charger base of course). So should not have more bacteria than other surfaces, if well cleaned/disinfected/cared for. It is only the head that enters the mouth, and brush heads should be replaced regularly.
using a 15 years old dental care product is gross. Would be an interesting bacteria culture experiment on the handle swabs.
Ok, I hereby give you permission to start cleaning your home & possessions! :p
tell me the paste/water runoffs and salivas don't drip down the handle?
not everyone has a dishwasher, nor I fail to see the point of putting something like that in the dishwasher…. it's like finding out your female friends puts her 'toys' in the dishwasher for a quick rinse/dry.
i'm now both conflicted and grossed out.
Huh? Thats why you wash the unit. Directions are to wash the handle after every use - just like you do with a toothbrush.
http://www.drmoorhead.com/2008/08/is-there-bacteria-on-your-… recommends
"Clean your toothbrushes daily in the dishwasher along with your eating utensils."
as "research by Manchester University found that the average toothbrush contained around ten million germs, including a high percentage of potentially fatal bacteria such as staphylococci, streptococcus, E. coli and candida."
Toothbrush heads don't need to be old to have this problem.
You put other things that have been in your mouth in the sink/ dishwasher to be cleaned. Otherwise, how do you eat - plastic disposable cutlery & plates?? IV drip? Don't even think about eating with those fingers - a major vector of disease & death around the world.
And how do you clean your teeth? Not the same manual toothbrush twice - come now? (and again those fingers are far too close to your mouth! The long handle of electric toothbrushes keep fingers a long way from the mouth.)
You are cleaning your teeth to rid them of harmfull bacteria. Where do the bacteria go?
(From research on the area… "Seventy-two sterile toothbrushes were exposed to Herpes Simplex Virus, Type I and seventy-two sterile toothbrushes were exposed to Parainfluenza Virus, Type III. … Both viruses were consistently retained on non-treated toothbrushes for at least 24 hours." That was 1 day after opening a new toothbrush! (don't share toothbrushes) http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7931767 )
Don't even think of nasties on door knobs or taps in public toilets, if hygenically cleaning a toothbrush in a sink or diswasher grosses you out!
Life must be hard for a 'germ' phobic!! Touching or kissing would be impossible, let alone other indulgences! You know you do have bacteria on & inside you too. Oh, I feel so dirty! Come off it!
I don't have a dishwasher - this toothbrush is rated dishwasher safe (but you don't need one to wash it) - so good to immerse in very hot water, scrub down with detergents, and use what ever you like that won't damage seals, plastic, etc - simple. But that is not good enough for you? My new autoclave is on backorder ;)
i can do without the condescending comments.
so not going to bother replying to your points.
except to point out that if you can't tell the difference between a virus and a bacteria (they are not the same), don't try to educate someone else on it.
Yes they are different - no news there (space between 2 separate ideas was lost in edit, running bacteria removal & virus research into 1 para - proof reader has been fired!).
Of course my jibes were in jest, in response to your grossed out view that cleaning a toothbrush in a dishwasher was repulsive. Seemed an extreme view, considering it is recommended by Oral-B & others. So took your revulsion to its logical extreme.
Still, made me think. I would not have thought about washing a toothbrush in a dishwasher or kitchen sink. Now will do it as it makes sense to me - so thanks, but unfortunately no autoclave just yet.
But why would people be frightened of a toothbrush, or washing them? (A few articles online - I would never have read otherwise.) Seems a cultural/upbringing issue.
at least someone knows now that Japan is part of Asia. Japanese are Asian.
Again with this? Strange you know what I believe??? Wish I did - I am still learning.
(My Absolut luggage is packed for another few months in Asia - not Japan this time.)
"Japanese are Asian." Most would agree, as we saw, when you challenged my observation about luggage ownership!
A number of continent theories are not sure of this 'fact', so I go along with that.
Some of those say Europe is just an Asian Peninsula, so German & French are Asians by that continental definition!
(A Greek Mandarin speaker friend used to have fun with Chinese people, as he passed himself off as a Chinese person from the far West of the country. He had no problem getting away with it. Was he European or Asian? Both said he was one of their group. Nothing in general is clear cut as we think it should be. As my Professors taugh me, "It depends".)
So by some in the field, French are more Asian than Japanese. This is not what I was taught in school! Conventions of naming groups are usually defined by those outside the group, for their benefit an contol of the named group.
After a long process of rapport building, I ask a group what they see themselves as, as I have done with various groups… Feminists, Gay men, Murris, or Japanese people. To do otherwise is to be arrogant.
But islands off the coast of a continent like Asia, are usually only included in with the continent for convenience of a 19th Century Eurocentric need to stratify/classify people. (Poor NZ sits on 2 continental plates, and may be considered an Island part of the Australian continent - so Kiwis are 'Australian' - tell that to the Kiwis! Similarly, many people from the UK would be upset if you tell them they are European - especially now.)
Jomon period archaeological digs I have been to, have finally disproven the Northern Japanese belief that they were not descended from Asians. But many still dispute this.
And Japanese folkloric creation beliefs may point to Japan as not part of Asia. I don't see that and am a simple person in these debates, but it is not my place to criticise another's belief (unless it involves a toothbrush and a diswasher) ;)
(Yes, in everyday usage, Japanese are Asians. OK?)
I thought this was a discussion about toothbrushes!
Great find, missed out on the Myer and Big W one so happy to get this. There's plenty of stock at the Blacktown Target if anyone is interested.
thanks man! i just picked it up at target in parramatta and they now accept westfields gift cards.
Went to 2 different targets, both only had Oral B 3000 after on the phone they said it was the 5000 model. Great.
Haha maybe target recently hired some dodgy staff from DSE don't know anything about tech but keep calling themselves texperts.
None left in Perth… Wish there was an easy way to check stock in other shops!
1 or 2 left at bullcreek WA target after I bought mine today at 5pm. It is a catalogue special offer and target catalogue special offer period is different from woolies and coles ends Wednesdays so get in by end of tomorrow!
Unfort I live NOR… :-(
Plenty left on the shelves at Carindale Brissie, as I picked 1 up 5 minutes before the sale finished.
FYI Target and BigW catalogue normally ends on Wednesdays.
OOPs forgot & I was the one who posted the catalog end date in bold above!
Well my comment is useful - plenty of 5000 left at Carindale, Brissie! None at Myers Centre.
For those with a PC IQ5000…
[Am comparing PC IQ5000 ($70 & 2 extra heads) against PC500 ($15) - which to keep?]
Do you use the different cleaning modes?
Or the wireless display - only seems good for kids (reward stars for lasting 2 minutes, telling you which teeth to clean next, frowny face if press to hard, & which mode you chose)? (PC500 stutters every 30 seconds & longer at 2 minutes - no need for display)
PC IQ5000 always reverts to 'Daily Clean', so my guess is most just use that over time.
'Deep Clean' is just a longer 'Daily Clean', so of little added benefit - you can always brush longer.
'Sensitive' is lower speed, but just decreasing pressure against teeth may get similar effect.
'Whitening' "Superior whitening in 3 weeks*" - better than PC500 - I don't think I would use.
'Massage' - I don't think I would use. But what is it like?
Vitality - 7600 oscillations/min
Professional Care 500 - 7600 oscillations/min, 20000 pulsations/min
Professional Care 1000+/Triumph - 8800 oscillations/min, 40000 pulsations/min
So major operating difference between 500 & 5000 is twice pulsations/min & choice of cleaning modes that change these oscillations/pulsations.
Was little disappointed that the 5000's larger charger base turned out to be the same small charger with added plastic surround for holding brushes. Was listed on OralB as "Portable SmartPlug Charger + Charging Station with Brush Head Storage". Expected a 'SmartPlug Charger' to handle other voltages. Charger is no good for some overseas travel as is only 240V, but would work in most hotel bathroom 110/240V shaver outlets.
Any thoughts???
Holy cow! $120 for a toothbrush.