Are You Going to Eat The Bugs?

Seems obvious that the global order wants us to ditch meat and turn to crickets and other tasty crawlers as an environemtly-friendly solution to greenhouse gasses.

With environmentalism picking up and food shortages already evident, I think we're heading for a point where they will try turning crickets into the new vaccine - anyone who doesn't chow down the new menu and express how grateful they are will be brandished selfish, brainwashed, irresponsible etc. In other words, the plate will be political. Eating the crickets will give some a renewed sense of purpose or meaning, yet there will always be those who resist for whatever reason, and I sense this will be the next big issue that divides us in the future.

That's just my theory though. You are entitled to think more optimistically than I am.

So, where do you stand?

Poll Options

  • 257
    I will NEVER eat bugs or give up meat no matter what
  • 115
    I will switch to bugs if someone makes a compelling argument or it becomes popular
  • 42
    I am open to switching but still undecided
  • 86
    I have already started eating bugs
  • 79
    Meat will be available forever and this will never happen

Comments

            • @amzinguserman:

              Your question in fact this whole post is not based in logic lots of people have pointed out crickets or bugs is not a reasonable food source.

              Actually the trials already state this is a reasonable source of food that can be produced with low emissions. Or are you referring to the fact that it is unpalatable=unreasonable?

              It is currently being commercialised in Canada.

              • @[Deactivated]: yes not "unpalatable=unreasonable?".

                But the other side of the coin is that if someone wants to eat crickets and a company is selling , i cant really stop them.

          • @SlavOz: Sounds like a resounding "yes" for both of @amzinguserman 's questions

        • +1

          He does appear to. It is just extraordinary.

      • +6

        Be that as it may, but what if I still refuse? Are you going to respect my choice or do you think Daddy Guvamemt should do something to stop me?

        Its like you extrapolate from some small piece of information, make up things/events/occurrences, that are not happening, just so you can get offended/rant at the possibility of it happening and why is everyone else blind to this clearly offensive thing that is happening (in your head only)

        It must be a wild ride if you wrote your thought process out on paper.

        • +2

          Welcome to the conservative side of politics - got to keep them angry.

      • +1

        Are you going to respect my choice or do you think Daddy Guvamemt should do something to stop me

        You still don't get it. No one cares if you refuse to eat it or starve to death, no one cares, who are you? But if you start spreading rumours /misinformation for your own agenda (ie. your religious reasons) and personal opinion, or the agenda of whoever has brainwashed you with paranoia, that's when society will have an issue.

        • +1

          Thanks for your response.

          So just to clarify, you wouldn't support measures to restrict or disincentivise people from eating meat?

          • +1

            @SlavOz: Nobody has to restrict or disincetivise anything. It's called free market economics. The inputs are scarcer. Somebody has to pay for the externalities. Both factor into price. Meat is an elastic good.

            Or is there also a global conspiracy against lettuce? There must be, according to your "logic". It's more expensive, and that can only be because of THEM. Soon, black helicopters will be dropping off secret police who will go door to door looking for cabbage eaters, then putting them into special camps, yeah?

            • @GrueHunter:

              Nobody has to restrict or disincetivise anything

              So why are they doing it then?

              It's all well and fine to say they don't have to, but they are.

              Dutch farmers are being shot at for refusing to kill 30% of their cattle. Carbon emissions limits are already being imposed on corporations to force them to slow down production and distribution of meat.

              This isn't a free market.

              • +1

                @SlavOz: You mean when the police shot at a tractor because the driver was trying to ram their police vehicle? They aren’t being shot for not culling 30% of their stock. You do talk such rot.

                • @try2bhelpful: https://youtu.be/qA52Hoz7394

                  The tractor ramming theory is a lie. They didn't count on amateur footage showing what actually happened.

                  The tractor was travelling at a few kms/ph following the road, then the police fired shots.

                  Gotta love how when a black thug pulls out a gun and gets shot by police, it's systemic racism, but some white old farmers driving their tractors is an act of aggression that needs to be neutralised 🤣

                  I can barely keep up.

                  • @SlavOz: awesome, wondering when you were going to bring "please add black people to the very long list of things I'm confused and terrified about" into ti

  • +6

    It's not eating bugs, it's eating features.

    Coincidentally, KFC are really well future proofed on this front if they started selling Crickets - they already sponsor a sport with the same name and wouldn't need to change their abbreviation.

    • +1

      "I'll have a 10,000 piece bucket pls, make sure I don't get too many drumsticks"

      • Waiter, there's chicken in my fly soup!

    • That's actually a pretty good idea, maybe you should float it with the KFC higher ups. What a great marketing gimmick for the big bash. The best way to have crickets is fried and seasoned and that's their speciality.

  • +4

    Ha I can't believe this guy still believes the government has a say in any of this. They're being controlled by the GFM (or Galaxian Federation Media for any of you that are still blind). I WISH we could eat crickets but all the bugs in the world were replaced with trackerbots years ago. Should start calling them snitches not crickets.

    • Love it. The dung eating metal cockroaches from X files are spying on us.

  • +2

    crunchy, tasty. Where can I buy some?

  • +1

    Are You Going to Eat The Bugs?

    I think we've been eating them for a while and they're called sea cockroaches (a.k.a Prawns). I'm not a big meat or fish eater so am good with veg if something were to happen like that in my lifetime.

    I however would never switch to anything that is marketed as meat which is plant based. If it's plant based, sell it as plant based, not as fake meat.

  • +5

    they will try turning crickets into the new vaccine

    Who is they?

    • +7

      They is whoever OP thinks is against them.

      They are both everyone and no one.

      It can be the government , media , UN, MacDonalds, their neighbor, Hugh Jackman. etc

      Literally "us vs they" mentality.

    • +4

      I, too, want SlavOz to come right out and name who he reckons 'they' is, if only because I think it'll make for some spicy reading.

      • There is no "they"…

        It is all of us that voted in the last election, we are all part of it. There is bipartisan support for climate action.

        Anyone who thinks we can just sit back and reach net-zero by 2030 and then carbon zero by 2050 is fooling themselves. We will have to make sacrifices, all of us, because we voted for it in some way or another. The planet is at stake.

        Inflation is part of this story, and as reluctant as I am to state this; the pandemic helped accelerate some desirable changes.

        So anyone who believes we can continue eating meat at the affordable prices we have now is dreaming…

        • +1

          Sure but I want to hear who SlavOz thinks they is.

          • +1

            @whatwasherproblem: "They" or "Them" are B1 and B2.

            (It is always those you least suspect)

          • +2

            @whatwasherproblem: "They" is fairly easily defined, because it's the opposite of SlavOz's "we/us" - which also emerges fairly quickly.

            Have a read back through some of his earlier threads that blew up (Are Banks Too Woke, Working From Home Parents Don't Need Childcare, Yikes on Abortions and so on), all the breadcrumbs are there. e.g. in the woke/banks cryathon, he pushes the angle Australia is a majority Christian society in among all the other conservative talking points.

            Now why would someone conservative be pushing a religious viewpoint and be disingenuous about alternate lifestyles?

            It's the least surprising 'man behind the curtain' reveal you can expect. You don't need to be watching crazy YouTube QAnon videos in 2022 to have a viewpoint that's thousands of years old.

            • @Crow K: Sure, but I want to hear SlavOz name who he's going to name.

              • @whatwasherproblem: You'd like to pin SlavOz down to an honest, direct answer on a subject (without any what-about-isms, subject changes and all the rest)?

                Oh, my sweet summer child.

          • +1

            @whatwasherproblem: The same people who forced us to get vaccinated.

            Oh pardon me, we weren't forced, we just had to choose between the jab and our human rights.

            "They" the people who have influence over global trends and policies.

            It's the institutions, politicians, and organisations that locked us indoors for 2 years without consulting us.

            It's the EU trying to punish Hungary or Poland for having their own sovereign laws and not bowing to what they say.

            It's the WHO telling our domestic health experts what to do.

            It's the WEF telling us our human rights need to recalibrated because they're too much of an inconvenience.

            It's the UN that threatens to pull support or intervene in any country that doesn't play by the international rulebook.

            Do I really have to explain international agreements and diplomacy 101?

            • @SlavOz:

              Do I really have to explain international agreements and diplomacy 101?

              Yes please.

              • @whatwasherproblem: Great, start at the top of my last post and work your way down.

                • @SlavOz: But those are all pretty diverse groups that have different ideologies that probably clash with each other and prevent them from getting anything done.

                  Unless you think they're actually not that diverse after all, at least in the upper echelons of the hierarchies? That would be an enlightening post if you were to delve into that a bit.

                  • -2

                    @whatwasherproblem:

                    But those are all pretty diverse groups that have different ideologies that probably clash with each other and prevent them from getting anything done.

                    Not really. They all seem to be pushing the same message and operating in unison, at least ideologically.

                    I mean, is it a coincidence that they all favour left-wing policies and talking points?

                    • +1

                      @SlavOz:

                      that they all favour left-wing policies and talking points?

                      every talking point is left-wing to you.
                      Perhaps you'll one day work out they aren't necessarily 'left-wing talking points' with respect to the entire political landscape of the world, just "left-wing" when compared to your small tiny (and generally incorrect) world view point

                      It's ok..I'm sure opinion pieces on Fox News will agree with you.

                      • @SBOB: I mean, I did ask you in another thread if you could define what right-wing vs left-wing means in an Australian context, but you never responded, like most posts where your logic bumps it's head and can't get back up.

                        You actually, legitimately, have no idea what right/left even means. You just think whatever the government says is the default view of everyone, and anything opposed to that is right-wing.

                        • @SlavOz: Yeah, you got me…
                          I'm the one lacking in knowledge, and just here to get educated by your fox news summaries..

                          As I said previously, based on your frame of reference, almost everyone in this country is left wing.
                          If you want a non US definition of what centralist societies claim as moderate left and right wing views, feel free to google a summary, but it will just be all left wing talking points to you.

                          You've shown before you're unable to take on any actual new information or facts, so spoon feeding you factual info that doesn't align with this week's fox news opinion piece that's got you riled up seems like an unproductive use of time.

                          • -4

                            @SBOB:

                            based on your frame of reference, almost everyone in this country is left wing.

                            Actually, it's based on the most recent election. Did you miss the part where Labor and the Greens had their most successful turnout yet, as well as a massive surge in left-wing independents?

                            It doesn't take a crazy imagination to see leftism in a country that voted wildly left mate. Based on statistical probability, picking any opinion at random in Australia is most likely to be a left-wing one. This goes up even further if you narrow the sample down to online voices such as the media, Reddit, or even Ozbargain.

                            Anyone with an ounce of knowledge on today's socio-political landscape will be able to tell you this, but I'm glad I could be the one. Now go back on my ignore list.

                            • +2

                              @SlavOz:

                              Actually, it's based on the most recent election.

                              its your frame of reference that puts the liberals as "left wing" as you've continually stated before, therefore, 'based on your frame of reference' its accurate to assume the majority are indeed left wing.

                              I cant be blamed if you're unable to utilise the local political landscape in your discussions and can only relate to US based politics. Strange stance for someone residing in Australia and destined to leave the country for somewhere that is not the US, though you'd likely fit in well in many middle american states.

                              Also, wasn't me negging that comment.. just so you know I'm not the only one that disagrees with your viewpoint or your inability to remember your own previous argument/discussion topics :)

    • +5

      You know, THEM.

      /gestures wildly at everything, returns to connecting pins with red string

  • +6

    NGL i was hesitant while in cambodia some 7 years ago when my mate boought a bag of fried crickets.
    Initially was completely against it.
    Then tried one and damn it was good.
    Literally pork crackle with better texture - like pork crackle chips

  • +1

    I happily eat 'meat alternatives' that actually taste good, like Quorn and Beyond Burger, but I wouldn't eat insects. For the rich and famous promoting these products, I'd like to see you switch your diet to insect burgers. Practice what you preach.

    But… people who like natural ingredients are eating insects already. Colour 120 is cochineal.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cochineal

    Enjoy.

    • I came to comment the same thing, most people are probably unaware they are already eating bugs if they consume foods with Colour 120 anyway.

  • +1

    I will eat them, because I'm not some diva who is somehow happy to eat the bloody flesh of an living feeling animal but gets their knickers in a knot at the thought of eating 'creepy crawlies'.
    As long as it doesn't taste worse than liver or sardines.. I'll find a way.

    The part I resent is when they start charging premium for this shit. And you know they will, the freakin B@#ards.

    IF YOUR GOING TO MAKE US EAT BUGS, IT SHOULD AT LEAST BE CHEAP!

  • +2

    I see everything as equal, Horses, Rabbits, Bugs, Men, Women, Children.

    I will eat them all.

    • +2

      Soylent Green.

      The main trouble with eating people is we tend to accumulate pollutants in our bodies. Also you are most likely to pick up diseases from whatever killed the person. Things like CJD are an issue for cannibals if you eat infected brain matter. Evolution ain’t hot on creatures that eat their own kind.

      • If I die, it's because I was weak.

      • +1

        Came for the Soylent Green reference. Was not disappointed :)

        • +1

          Back in the day you went to the flicks and there was an A movie, a B Movie and a few fillers
          like travelogue shorts. There is a scene from Soylent Green where the person is seeing the video of what the earth was like before it went to pot. I went to a movie and one of the travelogue shorts was the same footage with the same music. I wondered what was in the popcorn.

    • So not just the men, but the women and children too…

  • +1

    We eat sea bugs. why can't we eat land bugs? Same shit.

    • +1

      Sea bugs live in the ocean, which is full of salt. The salt makes everything fairly clean. Sea bugs mostly live off plants at the bottom of the ocean.

      Land bugs spend their time crawling through shit and rotten carcasses.

    • Right? I've always wondered if cockroaches would taste the same as their water-dwelling cousin the lobster aka the 'cockroach-of-the-sea'.

      I actually keep a trio of giant burrowing cockroaches as pets too.

      Sorry I just wanted a reason to tell everyone about my pet XD

      • Thinking about eating your pet?

  • +1

    Walks past a trucks grill… Bug buffet!

  • +7

    Classic overdramatic post! It must be tiring to be so scared of change.

    • Just more ranting from someone who claim the "lefties" are out to get him; here's a tip, if everyone and everything appears too "left-wing" to you, perhaps it's you who is too "right-wing".

  • +2

    Gimme those Moreton Bay bugs!

  • +7

    Strange that after someone on fox news rants about eating bugs, you post the topic about it….
    Coincidence? Or you just share the same information sources as fox news guests?

    https://crooksandliars.com/2022/07/eating-bugs-our-future-fo…

    • +1

      It's almost like the topic de jeur can spread among more than one person and create a public debate.

      Wait until you find out that sometimes the same story gets retweeted millions of times :O

      • -1

        If you're too afraid to talk about or admit the sources of 'information' for your outrage, perhaps that says more about the quality of that info you use for your 'public debate'

  • +1

    "and I sense this will be the next big issue that divides us in the future"

    Hardly a big issue or divisive but as products come to market that make economic, environmental and health sense, it's only your squeamishness and stubbornness that stand in the way.

    Plenty of city dwellers that eat meat would probably give it up if they had to kill and butcher their own.

    • -3

      That's because city dwellers are faceless worms. They eat whatever trash their masters throw down.

      People with common sense know how to harvest their own food. I'd rather know how to grow crops or kill a chicken than have a masters degree in peer reviewed Scienceness.

      • +5

        And you wonder why people won’t take you seriously?

        • He doesn't care, if he did, he wouldn't be wasting time posting baseless rants on a site dedicated to posting bargains. It's like trying to get your facts from Facebook, oh wait…

      • I'd rather know how to grow crops or kill a chicken than have a masters degree in peer reviewed Scienceness.

        Bro most of the laptop class that you (rightfully tbh) rail against don't even have the degree, either.

  • +2

    I love how there's totally a magical global cabal forcing everybody to eat crickets, but definitely no global meat cabal owned by a few large companies with a vested interest in getting everybody to be cool with eating their product and using their combined might to manipulate prices at the expense of farmers and consumers

    oh wait it's exactly like that

  • we don't call them 'bugs' in Australia.

  • Theories needs to be backed by statistics and experiments. Not anecdotes.

    Please backup your theories with something more substantial

  • They can't even sell the stuff. I worked for Coles and all the 'plant' based food was being reduced and thrown out.

    • +1

      Since when were insects plants?

      Regardless, many/most vegans and vegetarians eat vegetables, grains, pulses etc rather than the reconstituted vegetable equivalent of devon. Also many don’t shop at Colesworth. So your experience at Coles probably isn’t representative of the true vegetarian and vegan markets.

  • -1

    Is OP aware that if he buys any processed food from the supermarket then he has already been eating insects ?

    It is impossible to completely prevent insects from entering food processing plants, and so food control authorities have a minimum limit below which insect parts are allowed to be present in food.

    For example, the US FDA allows up to 30 insect fragments to be present for every 100 grams of peanut butter:
    https://edition.cnn.com/2019/10/04/health/insect-rodent-filt…

    • There's trace of amounts of human hair and rat shit in processed food too.

      Why not just live out the rest of our days eating rat and hair pudding?

      Do I really have to explain the difference between ingesting trace amounts of something vs making it a staple of your diet? You're comparing apples to airplanes.

      Trace amounts of allergens might not even cause a reaction in most people, that doesn't mean people with peanut allergies should freely eat as many peanuts as they want.

  • +2

    This guy would have lost his mind during the rationing area in WW2.

    • -1

      Thankfully we've come a long way since the days of famines during WWII.

      Alas, it seems some people fully support sending us right back there.

      • +3

        Yeah, plenty would love to go back to the 40’s and 50’s - conservatives. Although to be fair, some (particularly those in the US) look keener to go a couple of hundred years further back.

        • -2

          I think you'll find progressives are far more conservative than their counterparts.

          "0Mg deh women and gays are oppressed. White colonisation! Reparations for slavery! We need seperate programs for black people! We should treat gender the same as those historic tribes!"

          These people still believe we have corveture laws 🤣. They haven't moved on.

          • +3

            @SlavOz: Progressives are the new conservatives? Please, explain this theory more, can’t wait to hear it.

            • @Randolph Duke: I just did. Progressives are way more hung up on the past than conservatives are. They literally still think we have to abolish racist laws or that women need to be freed from corveture ownership.

              They obsessively remind us of the evils of white colonisation even though it ended many generations ago.

              They use the gender norms of ancient tribes as a justification for modern-day transgender theory.

              They want to go back to the days when black people had their own bathrooms college gradutions or water fountains pride parades.

              You do realise that virtually everything the left proposes - from censoring "hate speech" to aborting children, has already been done before right? These ain't some new ideas you came up with, they just dug them up from the dustbins of history and put a modern day spin on them.

              • -1

                @SlavOz: You would think we wouldn’t need to raise the issue of seizing people’s bodies, against their will, and denying them medical procedures? You would think we don’t need to discuss marriage between consenting adults? That providing education and knowledge is better than ignorance? That people should have the right to manage their own sexuality?

                Unfortunately the right keeps trying to drag us backwards. The left thought all these issues were sorted. Especially as the right talks about small government and freedoms. Yet it reserves the right to interfere in peoples lives. It talks about democracy then a President tries to stage a coup and refuses the basic tenant of democracy which is handing over power when you are voted out.

                Yes, all this stuff has been done before and it, should’ve, been done and dusted. So why does the rightwing refuse to allow people to have body autonomy and live their own lives? Why are they so damned obsessed what happens in other people’s bedrooms. In some states, in the US, oral sex was illegal. What hypocrites this mob are.

                • @try2bhelpful:

                  You would think we wouldn’t need to raise the issue of seizing people’s bodies, against their will, and denying them medical procedures?

                  Ditto on seizing people's bodies, against their will, and forcing them into a medical procedure. The left seems to be a big fan of that.

                  You would think we don’t need to discuss marriage between consenting adults?

                  Of course we do, and we always have. Both sides do this - unless you think incest or polygamy or should be legal?

                  President tries to stage a coup and refuses the basic tenant of democracy

                  Ditto on the left trying obstruct a supreme court decision or storming the Arizona capitol to stop them from signing a law.

                  Ah, the sounds of democracy can be heard among the left shattering glass doors and forcing their way into a restricted area.

                  why does the rightwing refuse to allow people to have body autonomy

                  Because the left doesn't allow people to have bodily autonomy either. Remember, get vaccinated, wear a mask, and sanitise or else you can't be part of society?

                  live their own lives?

                  I would've loved to live my own life during the last 2 years when it was illegal for me to visit my own family down the road or go to church because of the left's delusions.

                  Take your bullshit lies somewhere else. You lefties spend the last 2 years telling us that freedom is imaginary and we should all be subject to the government's rules.

                  You can't pretend to be a fan of consenting adults having sex when you literally made it illegal for consenting adults to even gather for 2 years 🤣

                  • -3

                    @SlavOz: You were not forced into a medical procedure. It was your choice to make. This was a Pandemic and people were dying in large numbers. Funnily enough this is a decision that has been made, throughout history, to minimise the effect of Pandemics. Let’s get back to the science again, shall we? If you look at the stats the unvaccinated are still, proportionally, more likely to die or be seriously affected than their cohorts are.

                    There are genetic reasons why incest is discouraged. It magnifies the effect of genetic defects. However, there are no genetic issues associated with gay people getting married. It is plain bigotry on the part of the rightwing to interfere in gay marriage and, in America, they are threatening to do it again.

                    This “storming of the Arizona capital” appears to be nothing of the sort; they didn’t get in. However armed rightwingers did storm the Michigan Capital and the Oregon capitals. In
                    Michigan they threatened to kidnap the Governor. On the day that Trump incited the mob to storm the Capitol they were carrying nooses and people died.

                    Your false equivalents are tripping you up again.

                    • -2

                      @try2bhelpful:

                      You were not forced into a medical procedure. It was your choice to make.

                      Just like women aren't forced to carry a pregnancy. They have a choice. If they choose to have sex carelessly and their egg is fertilised, that is on them.

                      this is a decision that has been made, throughout history

                      I thought progressives hated history and were all about looking forward? You just admitted the left is upholding historic values.

                      the unvaccinated are still, proportionally, more likely to die

                      Incorrect. Those stats only apply to hospital patients who are 75+ years old. It does not take into account the rest of the healthy population. There is absolutely no scientific basis for forcing an 18 year old to get vaccinated.

                      However, there are no genetic issues associated with gay people getting married

                      But there are other concerns. Gay people are more likely to contract and spread HIV. They can't bear children. They tend to have more sexual partners than straight people.

                      Why can't we use these reasons to restrict marriage?

                      Who says genetic issues are the only reason to restrict who can get married? There's no hard rule written anywhere, that's just something you made up.

                      This “storming of the Arizona capital” appears to be nothing of the sort; they didn’t get in

                      That's because the riot police came in and dispersed the crowd. They reacted just in time. The protestors were clearly trying to get in and were only delayed by locked doors. The protestors at the Capitol on Jan 6 wouldn't have gotten in either if the doors were locked - but they won't. Most of them were let in by security.

                      19 people died during the BLM riots that rocked America over 7 months. 1 person died at the Capitol. Tell me which is worse?

    • I have a relative who loves to compare everything to WW2 Europe, and how anything that happens now is far better than what happened then.

      Europe will be freezing without gas in winter, and major industries will be shut down?

      "Well, no one is bombing the Germans like in WW2. Buildings are still standing, factories haven't been bombed, so any gas cuts are trivial compared to what people put up with back then"

      It's like some people have this mindset that if you're living through times that are even 10% better than the darkest moments of the 20th century, you have nothing real to complain about.

      • +1

        Its valid to compare the worst economic and social times to this guys delusions.

        They had to ration food back then because there was limited supplies while OP is imagining some weird scenario where he is forced to eat bugs because of "they".

  • +3

    This is clearly a conspiracy from the lizard people to ensure the world assimilates to the lizard diet.

    • I'm more concerned about the reverse vampires.

  • Did someone hit you in the mouth? In the morning?

  • +1

    Person, woman, man, camera, TV.

  • Humans are a large primate who has been an insect eater for Millenia and our ancestor species were for Millenia before that.
    Modern human diets got weird - not only western diets, by cutting out bugs.
    I grew up intentionally eating honeypot ants, bogong moths and seafood as normal. My mother has traumatic memories of me as a toddler grabbing cockroaches and sticking them in my mouth - as children naturally do but would have been an encouraged snack as recently as Roman Times.
    My father was a sailor in her majesty’s navy with no choice but to eat the weevils which would infest everything on board, so that was normalised in that section of our society even in the 80s-90s.
    I don’t eat bugs intentionally anymore but I’d probably choose it over my own death or death of other people.

    • -2

      No one is going to take it from you, they will just be asking a price you can no longer afford.

      Beef will be $80/kg soon enough. Will you be eating steak every night when it costs that much?

  • +1

    Why no option for "I never eat meat so this does not affect me" ?

    • That's much more than we can expect from slavoz

      • +1

        wow, and some one negged my comment.

        the poll totally ignores the estimated 1.5 billion vegetarians globally.

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