Netflix Password Sharing Crackdown - New Home Fee

life is suffering on 24/07/2022 - 16:18
Last edited 24/07/2022 - 16:19

https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2022/07/netfl…

From the article

Starting August 22, customers who sign in outside their home "will see the option to add the extra home for an additional fee per month" or use the two-week grace period, Netflix said. Earlier today, the Netflix FAQ included a sentence that said after the two-week grace period, "the TV will be blocked unless you add the extra home,"

The extra member fee of about $2 to $3 per month was implemented in Chile, Costa Rica, and Peru, with Netflix saying it would evaluate the rollout before making changes in other countries.

Argentina is next.

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  • Kentrolla on 27/07/2022 - 09:31

    Not sure what plan we're on (it's like $23.99 or something). If they want to implement this for ours, we'll just cancel and go back to downloading stuff lol. Not hard.

  • lost in transit on 27/07/2022 - 11:08
    -1

    So let me get this straight,I subscribed to Netflix mainly so i can watch it while in hospital one day every month.I don’t share my subscription with anyone.
    So now they want extra cash so i can watch it in hospital on my mobile for the day.
    I also hear there thinking of adding Ads…

    If i have all this right they can shove there subscription where the sun don’t shine….

    • Willy Beamish on 27/07/2022 - 12:16
      +1

      Do you guys read the article or just the buzzwords put in the OP to mislead people into anger?

      FAQ clarifies that users "can watch Netflix on your laptop or mobile device while traveling"

  • seraphim2017 on 27/07/2022 - 11:44
    -1

    How would this work if you watched it on the train commute and pinged lots of locations? Would they bar you? Can it be done on a "registered device" basis?

    • Willy Beamish on 27/07/2022 - 12:17

      Literally in the article:
      FAQ clarifies that users "can watch Netflix on your laptop or mobile device while traveling"

      • lost in transit on 27/07/2022 - 18:04

        So what happens when you stop travelling 😳

  • poppingtags on 27/07/2022 - 12:50
    +1

    Stremio.

    You're welcome.

  • giventofly on 27/07/2022 - 13:25

    This is greedy. We're paying customers.

    People should just cancel and watch them reverse it.

    • Willy Beamish on 27/07/2022 - 14:46
      -2

      Did you read the article?
      The only people this will affect are the people already breaking their ToS.

      • giventofly on 27/07/2022 - 15:00

        I did.

        I have the top tier subscription with 4 profiles. I share that with my sister and mum.

        I don't live with either of them, which means I'll have to add the extra house?

        Their top tier plan invites people to use it as I am using it - and now they're cracking down. Makes little sense.

        • whatgift on 27/07/2022 - 16:38

          No it doesn't "invite" anything - it's designed to be used by multiple family members living in the same household trying to watch different content on different devices at the same time. It has always been this way, it's just never been enforced. You can bet the other services have this same condition.

        • Willy Beamish on 27/07/2022 - 17:18
          -2

          And you're breaking their ToS by doing so.

          4.2. The Netflix service and any content accessed through the service are for your personal and non-commercial use only and may not be shared with individuals beyond your household.

  • StingyJoe on 27/07/2022 - 19:12

    The quantitative easing easy money truly is gone with Netflix pursuing this so aggressively. Previously it was all about market dominance! Just a matter of time before all the other services do the exact same thing I suppose. Gonna have to go to extra lengths to ensure IP ranges, Wi-Fi names etc all align once they really apply the screws.

  • diddy50 on 27/07/2022 - 20:16
    +1

    I'm divorced and my young kids use their profiles from our original acocunt, at their mother's house.

    If they think I'm paying extra to let my kids use their Netflix at their second home, they can eff off.

    • Willy Beamish on 28/07/2022 - 13:41
      -3

      Cancel then? You know netflix don't read these comments right?

      • diddy50 on 28/07/2022 - 13:58
        +2

        Wait, this isn't a open forum where we discuss and share our opinions, frustrations and thoughts on a topic raised by the OP?

        Thanks 😜 good to know

      • tonka on 30/07/2022 - 04:18
        +1

        How exactly do you know Netflix doesn't read these comments? Did you know there are whole businesses that get paid to monitor media content and relay that information to the relevant companies. To me making a statement of fact that you don't know is true is at best being a bullsh#tter at worst a straight up liar. But to be fair , how do you know?

  • tonka on 27/07/2022 - 23:30
    +1

    Why should a single person who only needs one slot pay the same as a family anyway? There is no logic to support an extended family in one building paying less that a similar family in multiple buildings. If they want to be fairer charge by the gigabyte or number of programs watched.
    Aside from that I'm not finding it value for money as it is. A big chunk of new content is foreign films that I'm just not interested in. And the lack of decent filter and search options just make it annoying trying to find content.

    • Drewbo on 28/07/2022 - 15:24
      +3

      If there's one thing that singles get used to in this society, it's paying for families.

  • lamparnon77 on 28/07/2022 - 00:24
    +2

    I live between 2-3 places and am travelling a lot. I don't want to pay extra for all my different homes? I have a different smart TV in each home too..

    • bigbadboogieman on 28/07/2022 - 10:31
      +2

      Just cancel the sub and let them know the reason that you were sold ~x screens and you're using X screens. Not going to pay extra for something you already bought.

      • lamparnon77 on 29/07/2022 - 20:11

        Yeah that's my plan..

  • tryingtohelp on 28/07/2022 - 08:10

    Netflix is doing this as they lost a million paid customers very recently.
    I happen to share my Netflix with a friend and we cover 50% cost each, many a times my friend has asked to cancel it as he’s happy with Foxtel and Disney plus.
    To be honest, I don’t mind canceling it for a few months as the usage is more towards Prime and Disney for us.
    I probably join those 1 million people who canceled their Netflix!!!

    https://time.com/6198354/netflix-subscribers-loss-second-qua….

  • bigbadboogieman on 28/07/2022 - 10:29
    +1

    Yep more ways to lose customers. They sold me 2/4 screens I am using those 2/4 screens. They want to charge me more for the same number of screens, they lose a paying customer.

    • Willy Beamish on 28/07/2022 - 13:39
      -1

      The only way this would affect you is if you're already breaking their ToS, you seem to be fixed on one detail of number of screens but not the contract you agreed to when you signed up…. hmm….

      • Guybrush57 on 28/07/2022 - 15:50
        +1

        What's with your bias towards bad business ethics, Willy? Users pay for a certain number of screens. You think it's fine that Netflix violates those ToS that they agreed to? hmm… .

        • Willy Beamish on 28/07/2022 - 16:00
          -1

          <Insert billy madison meme here>
          Read the ToS and you'll see that your subscription is not solely based on the number of screens you pay for….
          If you don't like it then unsub….

          • Guybrush57 on 28/07/2022 - 16:42
            +1

            @Willy Beamish: From Netflix's own FAQ:
            •How much does Netflix cost? Watch Netflix on your smartphone, tablet, Smart TV, laptop or streaming device, all for one fixed monthly fee. Plans range from $10.99 to $22.99 per month. No extra costs, no contracts.
            •Where can I watch Netflix? Watch anywhere, at any time. Sign in with your Netflix account to watch instantly on the web at netflix.com from your personal computer or on any internet-connected device that offers the Netflix app, including smart TVs, smartphones, tablets, streaming media players and game consoles. You can also download your favourite shows with the iOS, Android or Windows 10 app. Use downloads to watch titles while you're on the go and without an internet connection. Take Netflix with you anywhere.

            From the Plans and Pricing page:
            Netflix offers a variety of plans to meet your needs. The plan you choose will determine the video quality and the number of screens you can watch Netflix on at the same time.

            Key points:
            •One fixed monthly fee
            •No extra costs
            •Watch anywhere, at any time (including smart TVs)
            •Take Netflix with you anywhere
            •The plan you choose will determine the number of screens you can watch Netflix on at the same time

            Neither of these pages mentioned that by purchasing 2 or 4 screens, they actually mean 1 screen. Pretty important detail to leave out.

            • Willy Beamish on 28/07/2022 - 16:47
              -1

              @Guybrush57: From netflix on ToS:
              4.2. The Netflix service and any content accessed through the service are for your personal and non-commercial use only and may not be shared with individuals beyond your household.

              Can't believe you wasted that much time on that post and never actually checked their ToS.

              • Guybrush57 on 28/07/2022 - 17:05
                +1

                @Willy Beamish: Interesting that you'd refer to Netflix's own words as a "waste of time".

                • Willy Beamish on 28/07/2022 - 17:11
                  -1

                  @Guybrush57: I think you need a nap, absolutely nothing but gibberish coming from you right now but at least you realise how wrong you were.

                  Good luck with that issue that you have.

                  Ps. If you're going to use quotation marks you should probably quote something that someone said, not something you made up.

                  • Guybrush57 on 28/07/2022 - 18:26

                    @Willy Beamish: I knew you'd backpedal soon enough. Didn't think you'd throw a tantrum whilst doing it. You have some growing up to do, son.

                    • Willy Beamish on 28/07/2022 - 18:59
                      -1

                      @Guybrush57: You're a hoot, fake quotes of things you imagined were said and then pure projection.

                      You've still failed to actually respond to anything fact based that I've said, but keep pretending like you have a leg to stand on.

                      • Guybrush57 on 28/07/2022 - 19:31
                        +1

                        @Willy Beamish: You described Netflix's words as a waste of time. You then said you never described Netflix's words as a waste of time. Which is it?

                        I've only just noticed your joining date, 0 deal posts, and history of trolling people. Suddenly every unethical comment of yours makes sense.

                        • Willy Beamish on 28/07/2022 - 19:32
                          -1

                          @Guybrush57: I think you need to re-read what I actually wrote because that was never said.

                          Do you need an adult to read it out to you or are you capable of reading on your own?

                          Now all you're doing is deflecting because you failed extremely badly with your initial "screens" point you tried to make.

                          • Guybrush57 on 28/07/2022 - 19:37

                            @Willy Beamish: Re-read what you wrote. You were definitely in the wrong.

                            I also re-read what you have written to others. The overwhelming evidence shows that everyone disagrees with your juvenile and foolish commentary.

                            Perhaps you should quit while you are behind?

                            • Willy Beamish on 28/07/2022 - 19:39
                              -1

                              @Guybrush57: Clearly you didn't read it because you failed to understand something a 10 year old could:

                              "Can't believe you wasted that much time on that post and never actually checked their ToS."

                              And you read it to mean

                              "You described Netflix's words as a waste of time."

                              That's some kinda delusional level of understanding right there.

                              Keep deflecting kid.

                              • Guybrush57 on 28/07/2022 - 19:42

                                @Willy Beamish: So visiting friends and family who visit are forbidden to watch Netflix content if you, the house owner, press play? They must leave the room?

                                • Willy Beamish on 28/07/2022 - 19:44
                                  -1

                                  @Guybrush57: "So visiting friends and family who visit are forbidden to watch Netflix content if you, the house owner, press play? They must leave the room?"

                                  You malding hard writing a sentence out like that…

                                  Fail strawman btw.

                                  • Guybrush57 on 28/07/2022 - 19:50
                                    +1

                                    @Willy Beamish: 4.2. The Netflix service and any content accessed through the service are for your personal and non-commercial use only and may not be shared with individuals beyond your household.

                                    Says it right there in the ToS. Are you suggesting the ToS should be violated?

                                    • Willy Beamish on 28/07/2022 - 19:52
                                      -1

                                      @Guybrush57: Quote wherever I ever suggested anything remotely close to that.

                                      At this point you're don quixote fighting windmills , you're making up your own arguments for things that never happened because you failed miserably off the bat when I pointed to ToS.

                                      • Guybrush57 on 28/07/2022 - 19:56

                                        @Willy Beamish: I am not quoting right now. I am directly asking you a question.

                                        Should visiting friends and family be forbidden from watching Netflix content at your house?

                                        • Willy Beamish on 28/07/2022 - 20:05
                                          -1

                                          @Guybrush57: It's literally in the ToS and common sense.

                                          4.2. The Netflix service and any content accessed through the service are for your personal and non-commercial use only and may not be shared with individuals beyond your household. During your Netflix membership we grant you a limited, non-exclusive, non-transferable right to access the Netflix service and Netflix content. Except for the foregoing, no right, title or interest shall be transferred to you. You agree not to use the service for public performances.

                                          • Guybrush57 on 28/07/2022 - 20:07

                                            @Willy Beamish: You failed to answer my question. I didn't ask for ToS.

                                            Do you, Willy Beamish, believe visiting friends and family should be forbidden from watching Netflix content at your house?

                                            • Willy Beamish on 28/07/2022 - 20:09
                                              -1

                                              @Guybrush57: The fact that you don't understand that that's actually permitted under the ToS is hilarious to me, it's like you have 0 common sense whatsoever.

                                              • Guybrush57 on 28/07/2022 - 20:12

                                                @Willy Beamish: If it is permitted in the ToS then you should have no issue with answering my yes or no question.

                                                Do you, Willy Beamish, believe visiting friends and family should be forbidden from watching Netflix content at your house?

                                                • Willy Beamish on 28/07/2022 - 20:13
                                                  -1

                                                  @Guybrush57: 100% you're trolling now, explains the failed strawmen arguments, lies and pure gibberish.

                                                  You really are a hoot.

                                                  • Guybrush57 on 28/07/2022 - 20:16

                                                    @Willy Beamish: Why are you avoiding the simple yes/no question?

                                                    • Willy Beamish on 28/07/2022 - 20:17
                                                      -1

                                                      @Guybrush57: If you were smart enough you'd realise the answer to that question has been provided long ago, unfortunately you're not.

                                                      • Guybrush57 on 28/07/2022 - 20:23

                                                        @Willy Beamish: I checked through all of your yes/no answers since I asked that brand new question a few comments back. You never did answer it. You certainly didn't answer it long before I asked it (unless your psychic).

                                                        If you weren't guilty of being wrong, you would answer this question with a yes or no:

                                                        Do you, Willy Beamish, believe visiting friends and family should be forbidden from watching Netflix content at your house?

                                                        • Willy Beamish on 28/07/2022 - 20:26
                                                          -1

                                                          @Guybrush57: The fact you still have absolutely no idea is hilarious.

                                                          • Guybrush57 on 28/07/2022 - 20:27

                                                            @Willy Beamish: Of course I have no idea of your answer to my question. You keep avoiding answering it.

                                                            • Willy Beamish on 28/07/2022 - 20:30
                                                              -1

                                                              @Guybrush57: Trying to figure out the IQ range of someone in your position, failed to comprehend single sentence responses, incorrectly quoted extremely basic words, repeatedly asks the same question despite having all the information available to gather the answer.

                                                              Geez, not flattering for you.

                                                              • Guybrush57 on 28/07/2022 - 20:39

                                                                @Willy Beamish: You ensnared your own trap that you set for me then you went into full damage control / backpedalling mode after you realised how wrong and foolish you looked.

                                                                I won't lose sleep worrying whether you are able to figure out my IQ.

                                                                • Willy Beamish on 28/07/2022 - 20:40
                                                                  -1

                                                                  @Guybrush57: And now you're back to talking gibberish because you failed to demand a response for your asinine question, ahahaha.

                                                                  • Guybrush57 on 28/07/2022 - 20:47

                                                                    @Willy Beamish: Oh I received a response. Your failure to answer the question spoke volumes about how ashamed you are to have been wrong this entire time.

                                                                    Your awkward laughing and dudebro insults was the cherry on top.

                                                                    • Willy Beamish on 28/07/2022 - 20:49
                                                                      -1

                                                                      @Guybrush57: Ahahaha you are hilarious, best comedy act I've seen in a while. The level of delusion is unreal I love it.

      • PVA on 28/07/2022 - 20:18

        Not true.
        Watching on multiple screen at one house and on a screen at another house. We travel and stay at either home. We watch series at one house, and continue watching at another.
        It’s not sharing and not against the tos. But if they bring in the new rules it will be.

        • Willy Beamish on 28/07/2022 - 20:22

          It's not as simple as "screen", the changes they are making is in regards to TV located at another house which will be against ToS.

          • PVA on 28/07/2022 - 20:43

            @Willy Beamish: Even though I own both and it’s me watching them.

            I did this exact thing last week, watch tv at the Gold Coast home, went to Noosa and watching it on the TV there.

            • Willy Beamish on 28/07/2022 - 20:52

              @PVA: And? When they get cracking down you'll get your grace period and then be prompted to pay the extra as expected.

              As far as Netflix is concerned the sub you pay is for a household, not multiple.

      • bigbadboogieman on 29/07/2022 - 22:10
        +2

        Yeah I've got people in my household that live overseas. Totally normal phenomenon in today's globalised environment. My job itself requires me to travel alot sometimes continuously for several weeks.

        Nevertheless it shouldn't matter at all. They sold me X number of screens, I am using X number of screens enforced by their own system. They can ask for more money by raising their prices. Any other reason is simply a deceitful money grab.

        content accessed through the service are for your personal and non-commercial use only and may not be shared with individuals beyond your household.

  • varvaz on 28/07/2022 - 16:43

    So if I travel a lot and carry Chromecast with Google TV with me and plug it in wherever I am - it's going to be considered a new home?

  • El-Rhi on 24/05/2023 - 11:25
    +1

    Looks like it’s $8 per non household user. Apparently emails are coming to affected users today

  • Austrian Oak on 24/05/2023 - 17:07

    So who's giving Netflix the middle finger?

    https://www.news.com.au/entertainment/tv/streaming/netflix-s…

    • Benno007 on 25/05/2023 - 08:40

      When I see the message for the first time I will be!

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