Birthing Parent Removed from Medical Forms

Eatslikeacat on 21/07/2022 - 18:27
Last edited 21/07/2022 - 21:39

I never thought I'd see the day when I'd side with Bill Shorten. However, he has now stepped in to stop the use of the term "birthing parent" in medical forms. See: https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2022/jul/21/bill-…

Mothers will continue to be called mothers.

The phrase "woke erasure" rings true. But I'm also nauseous that it was from the Daily Telegraph and that I have something in common with Katherine Deves.

Some things I support are:
1. Gay marriage. The right to be as miserable as straight married people lol
2. Passports and birth certificates reflecting gender identity.

Some things I don't support are:
1. Removing the option of "mother" and replacing it with "birthing parent" or "birthing person".
2. Biologically male transgender people who have the advantage of male puberty saying that it's discrimination if they can't compete with women.

Why is it suddenly discrimination when the minority don't have their way? If minorities want equal rights I'm all for it. If they want recognition I'm all for it. They deserve as much happiness as anyone else. But taking out the option to call someone a mother from a form is in my belief the thin edge of the wedge of woke erasure.

Is what Bill Shorten did discrimination?

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Comments

            • Vote for Pedro on 24/07/2022 - 09:33
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              @Eatslikeacat: So what, who cares. Don’t you have more important things to worry about such as the economy? I’d rather pollies focus on things that really matter rather than worry about these culture wars.

              • Vote for Pedro on 25/07/2022 - 08:00

                @Vote for Pedro: To my neg friend. Why are the right wing conservatives so obsessed with culture wars. Its like they look for things to be offended by.

                I guess when you have no real political foresight you have to fight a culture war. So easily offended. Snowflakes even.

                • Gervais fanboy on 25/07/2022 - 09:29
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                  @Vote for Pedro: Imagine coming back to your past comments, unprovoked and unnotified.
                  Just to see how many likes/dislikes your comments are getting.

                  Don’t worry about the conservatives mate, you have got bigger issues to deal with…

                  • Vote for Pedro on 25/07/2022 - 15:43

                    @Gervais fanboy: About as snowflakey as being triggered by ‘birthing mother’. So I’m ok with your description of me.

                    • Gervais fanboy on 25/07/2022 - 16:08

                      @Vote for Pedro:

                      About as snowflakey as being triggered by ‘birthing mother

                      I’d say snowflakes are the one driving this movement, just so they could save the .1% of the population from getting their ‘feelings hurt’.
                      Just like how you got your ‘feelings hurt’ over a dislike….

                      So I’m ok with your description of me.

                      Description of you ?

                      No, I didn’t describe you mate
                      I only described your behaviour.

                      You put the 2 and 2 together in your own head.

                      • Vote for Pedro on 25/07/2022 - 16:33

                        @Gervais fanboy: And yet here you are fighting a culture war because you’re angry at the term ‘birthing mother’. Why do you care so much when it doesn’t affect you? Aren’t there more important things happening in the world than parroting the paul murray and sky news after dark talking points.

                        Only snowflakes who have nothing better to do than fight culture wars are upset at this.

                        • Gervais fanboy on 25/07/2022 - 16:53

                          @Vote for Pedro:

                          because you’re angry at the term ‘birthing mother

                          Not angry at anyone at all. My objection lies with the reasoning behind the change rather than just the change itself.
                          Already explained this in my previous comments.

                          Why do you care so much when it doesn’t affect you

                          I have already gone to the immense effort of explaining myself to others in this thread. I believe the onus should be upon you to read my views on this topic before you assume and then henceforth miscatrgorise me.

                          Aren’t there more important things happening in the world

                          That’s a strawman
                          I can say the same thing to you and others that are proposing these changes in the first place.
                          So these cheap argument styles don’t go anywhere. Do better.

                          parroting the paul murray

                          Don’t follow him or his political opinions.

                          and sky news after dark talking points.

                          Don’t listen to them either.

                          Now, all I had done was read this post from the op and formulated my opinions on the whole thing. Just like everyone else did.
                          Yet, here you are…. With your know it all persona. You have been wrong on everything soo far.

                          Only snowflakes who have nothing better to do than fight culture wars are upset at this

                          The irony of you saying ‘snowflakes’ this often is absolute gold.

                          Remember, you are the one that revisits this post to see how many likes/dislikes your comments get.
                          And then in literal ‘snowflake’ fashion, write up another comment about it.

                          Stop embarrassing yourself.
                          Lets just pretend that this never happened.
                          We’ll start afresh on the next one…

                          • Vote for Pedro on 25/07/2022 - 17:18

                            @Gervais fanboy: And yet here you are wanting to fight a culture war.

                            Australia has moved on from your vision of the good old days where women were stuck in the kitchen and had to look after ‘father’ when he cane home from work.

                            Though, there are still some in this world that will be upset that some people want to be called they/them because… snowflakes

                            • Gervais fanboy on 25/07/2022 - 17:30

                              @Vote for Pedro:

                              wanting to fight a culture war.

                              It’s an online debate… You are making it sound like we are in a octagon or something.
                              Also, you genious
                              I CAN SAY THAT EXACT THING BACK TO YOU…
                              Aren’t you opposing my view, just as I am opposing yours.
                              Whats your point ?

                              Btw FYI majority of women would rather be called a mother than a ‘birthing person’. This psuedo science hasn’t yet spread around like you think it has.

                              Australia has moved on from your vision of the good old days where women were stuck in the kitchen and had to look after ‘father’ when he cane home from work.

                              More inane dumb garbage from you.
                              When did I ever say any of that…

                              upset that some people want to be called they/them

                              No, people are upset at any form of compelled speech. You have just listed one example of it…

                              How can you despise and scrutinise your opposing views when you don’t even know what they are…
                              I guess the stereotype must be true then.
                              Most SJW’s create this tyrannical world in their own heads so that they can comfortably lie down on that bed of constant victimhood.
                              You know nothing about me or the reality that’s out there.
                              And yet, you feel confident enough to express all of your drivel.

                              • Vote for Pedro on 25/07/2022 - 19:26
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                                @Gervais fanboy: You’re the kind of person who cries ‘ALL LIVES MATTER” when someone says black lives matter, aren’t you ?

  • Vote for Pedro on 22/07/2022 - 21:40

    Who cares. With cost of living challenges and our regional issues Id rather pollies focus on those issues as opposed to some form designed by a bureaucrat.

  • ozhunter on 25/07/2022 - 18:41

    Greens leader is not happy https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11044759/Adam-Bandt…

  • SlavOz on 27/07/2022 - 22:16

    What I'll never understand is how such issues get thrown in with buzzwords like 'trans rights'. There is no such thing as trans rights or White rights or male rights. There are only rights which apply to everyone. Changing your birth certificate to an imaginary label, or choosing which sports division you want to compete in was never a right that anyone had, so I don't see why trans people should have it. We play with dangerous lines when we grant certain groups inherent privileges that nobody else enjoys. It's a mockery of our system.

    If the majority of Ozbargain can clearly see this madness of this, it gives me hope got Australia yet, but only if people actually vote on it. Let these politicians know that you don't want to live in a country where lies are encoded as legal truths. Vote them out.

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