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[PC] Indie Bundle for Abortion Funds - 792 DRM-Free Games/Projects - US$10.00 Minimum @ Itch.io

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[PC] Indie Bundle for Abortion Funds - 792 DRM-Free Games/Projects - US$10.00 Minimum @ Itch.io
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Bonding0909 on 04/07/2022 - 16:23 itch.io (2952 clicks)
Last edited 04/07/2022 - 16:42 by 1 other user

itch.io is running a jumbo bundle inspired by recent US events. $10 minimum purchase price for 790+ items, with more to be added until the 7th of July.

100% of the proceeds from this bundle will go to the National Network for Abortion Fund's Collective Power Fund, which moves money directly to abortion funds across 20+ U.S. states, with a particular focus on the South and Midwest (where it is often most difficult to get access to abortions). NNAF’s partnerships with these abortion funds provide direct resources and funds to many of the people most impacted by Roe v. Wade, towards immediate action.

All games are DRM-free, and can be downloaded and installed from the itch.io website. No Steam keys or similar are provided.

I haven't yet perused the list for good items (or sought out posts from people that have done so), but feel free to share in the comments.

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                  • gizmomelb on 05/07/2022 - 17:24
                    +1

                    @Gladioli: so how is forcing her to carry a baby to term, which has a higher chance of killing her unless a c-section is performed, treating HER with respect? She has had the pregnancy violently forced upon her. It is something alone which will most likely marketedly impact her life and feelings towards other humans (especially men). Forcing more trauma on her is acceptable? Also it's not like she's 6 months pregnant - why do you keep calling a clump of cells a baby, when it simply is not. When the 'best' she can currently hope for is a miscarriage (because many pregnancies do not get past the first trimester) then your so called caring for victims is simply empty air. It's like sending 'hopes and prayers'.

              • FabMan on 05/07/2022 - 11:56
                +2

                @Gladioli: Except if you picked up a biology book or two you'd realise they aren't babies. However, you'd have to take the stance that maybe you are wrong, that maybe that clump of cells in the womb isn't a human yet. You'd lack the courage to do that, better to live in ignorance.

                As for the young rape victims, seems like you are still content to make then suffer, an anti-abortion law stance still prevents those poor girls. But then, it's only a minority of little girls your view makes suffer.

                My view is, kill the unwanted clump of cells in the womb, similar to removing a skin cancer, let the woman not have a potentially dangerous pregnancy or birth, or let her live without having a life burnded with an unwanted child, prevent another child being born unwanted.

                • Gladioli on 05/07/2022 - 14:31

                  @FabMan: Look, there's a variety of ways that science can draw a line on when a clump of cells becomes a living being. My view is that, without abortion, that clump of cells will become a human. I'd like to protect that human, as well as the mother of that human. I'm not content with suffering and violence. But the reality is that people do violent things and sometimes when that happens you need to find a way to heal and restore those involved. My view is that this should include the baby, not just the mother. But that doesn't mean that I want the mother to suffer. I want her to be protected as well. You can have both, it just takes more work.

                  • FabMan on 05/07/2022 - 16:12
                    +2

                    @Gladioli: "You can have both, it just takes more work"

                    How much time have you put into volunteering to help such people? Easy to talk about it, what others should endure to make you feel better, harder to actually step away from a keyboard and help. 8 billion people in this world, and for so many life is hard, but instead of lifting a burden off of a woman, or even the young child as mentioned above, you want to add more suffering for reasons only you know and justify.

                    In the beginning clumps of cells is what they are, and billions of cells die in us everyday such as sperm, eggs, skin cells, cancer cells, and many others, killing a clump of cells that aren't human is not killing a person. Believing you are stopping a potential human is also what you do when you use contraception, when every ovulated egg isn't fertilized by a sperm, when a body miscarriages. Not an extra morally wrong step to stop the potential clump of cells from becoming a person, especially not wrong when the child.isn't wanted for one reason or another.

                    If you are religious, and that believing killing is wrong, you have to ask yourself she does a soul enter the human. Why is it at conception, how do you know? Islam states 120 days after conception, Christianity states Adam was only alive after drawing in his first breath. Why does a sperm wriggling into an egg, sharing its DNA with the egg signal a soul to enter it? Especially considering there are so many natural miscarriages, an abortion by God.

                    • Gladioli on 05/07/2022 - 18:47

                      @FabMan: Too many things there to respond to meaningfully via internet forum. All I will say is, I think I have made my view clear. I believe we can care for both mother and child meaningfully without having to revert to abortion as the only answer. Ideally this is supported by good sex education and culture that helps to ensure people don't get raped and don't get pregnant without being in a loving and secure relationship. If all of that sounds too hard for you, I understand and it's ok. We are all limited human beings who only have so much energy and time available. But I would love to live in a world where we don't kill babies. That's all.

                      • FabMan on 05/07/2022 - 18:51
                        +1

                        @Gladioli: "I believe we"
                        We, as in, someone other than me, but do as I say.

                        I'd prefer people learn, change their ideology based on thr updated information available. But unfortunately some people prefer dogma, as it makes life easier to understand for them.

                        The fact people won't change their mind based on new information, or by trying to learn how the universe actually works will only lead to more problems for us all.

                        • Gladioli on 05/07/2022 - 19:36

                          @FabMan: Interesting response from someone who seems to be entirely set in their view. Also, you might be surprised at how much I personally work with people less privileged than myself and contribute to the well-being of others. But to care for everyone we need to act collectively as well as individually for the good of others. But for whatever reason you seem to be opposed to that idea and angry at me for wanting to encourage others towards it. I'm not forcing anyone to do anything, nor would I. But I would love to see people working together towards a more caring and loving society.

                          • FabMan on 05/07/2022 - 20:08
                            +2

                            @Gladioli: "Interesting response from someone who seems to be entirely set in their view. "

                            Based on evidence, if our understanding of human development changes, I'm prepared to change my view, I don't need to follow dogma.

                            A more caring society sounds great, letting women suffer and forcing your will upon them does not.

  • Ashy Larry on 04/07/2022 - 17:13
    +1

    Things aren't meant to get better for us. If you drive a car, shop at Colesworths and have a job then you are contributing to our demise.

  • AustriaBargain on 04/07/2022 - 17:13
    +22

    If men could get pregnant then you'd be able to get an abortion at your nearest petrol station.

    • Loki556 on 04/07/2022 - 17:15
      -4

      Hey, stop being a transfob!

  • hotdogwater22 on 04/07/2022 - 17:17
    +24

    This thread really shows how many old, tired & depressed (profanity) are on OzBargain.

    I'm by no means a pro-feminist, but if a man could get pregnant, abortions would be 100% legal. It's just facts.

    • exit on 04/07/2022 - 17:20
      -4

      But they can't, so clearly nature opposes it?

    • Caped Baldy on 04/07/2022 - 17:24
      +1

      We could legalise that birth and subsequently child support starts at conception. That should be enough to legalise it.

    • Almost Banned on 04/07/2022 - 17:35
      +8

      How exactly do you prove your hypothetical?

    • trapper on 04/07/2022 - 17:42
      +9

      I'm a man and I can promise you there is no way I would kill my own child.

      • TEER3X on 04/07/2022 - 17:56
        +1

        The reason we don't get pregnant is because we wouldn't survive giving birth.

        For argument sake, If someone raped you and got you pregnant, would you go through with the pregnancy?

        • trapper on 04/07/2022 - 18:01
          -3

          I'd probably take the morning after pill.

          I certainly wouldn't be waiting 8 months and getting a late term abortion anyway…

          • AustriaBargain on 04/07/2022 - 18:18
            +11

            @trapper: Isn't taking the morning after pill also killing the child that was just conceived in you?

            Also no one is legally getting or advocating for 8 month abortions. Even Roe vs Wade did not allow abortion after the foetus becomes viable (viability occurs at a minimum 24 weeks at the earliest, though typically viability is 28 weeks).

            • trapper on 04/07/2022 - 18:25
              +3

              @AustriaBargain:

              Also no one is legally getting or advocating for 8 month abortions.

              Some people actually are, unfortunately.

              • AustriaBargain on 04/07/2022 - 18:35
                +2

                @trapper:

                Virtually every Democrat candidate has declared their unlimited support for extreme late-term abortion, ripping babies straight from the mother’s womb, right up until the very moment of birth. - Donald Trump, at a campaign rally on March 2, 2020

                Don't believe everything he says.

                'Abortion until the moment of birth’ does not exist — it’s a boogeyman abortion opponents have created to frighten voters and derail rational conversation about constitutional rights. Nobody ‘supports’ it, and nobody does it. No patient ever asks a physician to end her pregnancy ‘the moment before birth,’ and no physician would agree to do it. - Professor Watson at Northwestern University’s Feinberg School of Medicine

                • trapper on 04/07/2022 - 18:57
                  +1

                  @AustriaBargain: I never quoted Trump or referred to him in any way.

                  If nobody supports it, nobody does it, and nobody would agree to do it, then why does it need to be legal?

                  And believe it or not this is actually perfectly legal in several US states: Alaska, Colorado, District of Columbia, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New Mexico, Oregon, and Vermont. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abortion_law_in_the_United_Sta…

                  • AustriaBargain on 04/07/2022 - 19:19
                    +2

                    @trapper: It doesn't look like it's as simple as that. A search shows that no providers in Alaska provide abortion at 8 months. Colorado provides abortions up to 26 weeks, and up to 34 weeks only when medically indicated (for conditions such as fetal anomalies, genetic disorder, fetal demise and/or severe medical problems, etc.).

                    Can you provide any proof that women are having elective abortions just before birth, say 36 weeks? I'm not talking about abortion where the child would be unviable, or have some deformity or anything like that, I'm asking you if you can show me in those states if women are actually having elective abortions on what would have otherwise been perfectly healthy babies at 36 weeks pregnant. I'm not going to spend all night researching every state you mentioned so if you're going to say it's perfectly legal to electively abort a healthy 36 week old child then based on what I have seen already I'm going to not believe it.

                    • trapper on 04/07/2022 - 19:27
                      -1

                      @AustriaBargain: I'm not trying to prove anything. Just pointing out that it is in fact perfectly legal to abort with no restrictions in those states.

                      • AustriaBargain on 04/07/2022 - 19:38
                        +5

                        @trapper: Right, well based on my own research I'm just saying to you that 8 month elective abortions of healthy children just don't happen, it's a myth. It seems late term abortions can happen if the child would be born deformed or where it's safer for the mother's life to get it done, but based on what I've been researching it is a myth you've bought into that women in those states can get an abortion at 8 months pregnant just because they feel like it.

                        I can't stay up all night researching the realities of all six states you mentioned, but if you could provide specific examples from specific states then I would be able to research the realities of it for you. But you can't show me examples of women choosing to get an abortion at 8 months just because they broke up with their boyfriend, for example. From what I can see it just doesn't happen, it's not even an option. It's just a myth that people like Donald Trump, and yourself with your casual "8 month" comment, spout for soundbites.

                        • trapper on 04/07/2022 - 20:03
                          +2

                          @AustriaBargain: I'm not making any argument about how often it happens. You can research that if you want out of your own interest but that is not what I am talking about.

                          What I said was "If nobody supports it, nobody does it, and nobody would agree to do it, then why does it need to be legal?"

                          If you are right and it never happens then why not just ban late term abortion (with some medical exceptions maybe) and then everyone is happy.

                          • AustriaBargain on 05/07/2022 - 05:23
                            +2

                            @trapper: The reason why late term abortions need to be legal is because if they were illegal then women would die in childbirth or be forced to birth severely deformed babies. The people getting late term abortions are people who wanted the baby. Someone who gets an abortion at 8 months is someone who wanted the baby, but needed the abortion to help save their own life or because the baby would have been severely deformed. Women aren't getting 8 months pregnant then going "yeah, nah, changed me mind, scoop that shit out of me!".

                            • trapper on 05/07/2022 - 09:34

                              @AustriaBargain:

                              women would die in childbirth or be forced to birth severely deformed babies

                              No, I'm not talking about medical necessity, that's not what the law is in those states. Abortion in those states is completely unrestricted at any point for any reason.

                              • AustriaBargain on 05/07/2022 - 10:50
                                +1

                                @trapper: Any evidence that elective abortions of healthy 36 week pregnant babies is occurring in those states?

                        • pj1351 on 04/07/2022 - 22:00
                          +2

                          @AustriaBargain: Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.

                          Some of the US states concerned simply does not require abortion providers to report any stats on abortions.

                          Hell, apparently only around 1/3 of US states requires providers to ask for the reason for the abortion, and only around 1/3 of those states are even required to report if the fetus were viable.

              • CookedChook on 04/07/2022 - 18:45
                +2

                @trapper: people are giving birth and just unloading both barrels of a shotgun into the new born. Shocking I know but as true as your sources

            • TEER3X on 04/07/2022 - 18:30
              +2

              @AustriaBargain: Please don't confuse people with facts

    • Sim69 on 04/07/2022 - 19:16

      I'm by no means a pro-feminist, but if a man could get pregnant

      Careful, you'll be cancelled for being transphobic!

  • Ziggy28 on 04/07/2022 - 17:22
    +6

    This is ozbargain, not yankbargain.

    • GrueHunter on 04/07/2022 - 18:02
      +3

      laughs in Amazon

  • Bangerbargain on 04/07/2022 - 17:24
    +13

    Im anti abortion because the babies would chose life!

    • exit on 04/07/2022 - 17:27
      -1

      Can guarantee 100% of babies would choose a shitty life over no life at all.

      • Aequitas on 04/07/2022 - 17:53
        +4

        No way can you guarantee that. Especially since the suicide rate is already so much higher in children of divorced parents.

        • trapper on 04/07/2022 - 18:06
          +4

          The suicide rate is not high though.

          Even in the most miserable places on earth 99% of those aborted babies statically would not have killed themselves later in life.

  • Marrk on 04/07/2022 - 17:26

    I am pro choice, this bundle is pretty bad though, only game I recognise is Catlateral Damage which is currently less than $4 on Steam.

  • Misha Bakunin on 04/07/2022 - 17:29
    +2

    I think it's grey and both opinions have merits. Unlike most topics I usually stay out of these debates. I'm not tempted to support this cause though, there are more important things that effect Australians more. Plus the games very, very meh as far as I can see.

  • sethman75 on 04/07/2022 - 17:29
    +5

    This is absolutely horrible. Buying video games to kill babies, disgraceful

    • Bangerbargain on 04/07/2022 - 17:32
      +5

      Killing babies is morally wrong and the way they do it is awful too.

    • Deals For Days on 04/07/2022 - 17:37
      +21

      If fetuses are babies then why isn't it common practice to have funerals for miscarriages, why can't you list babies as dependants with the tax man. The list goes on.

      A fetus is not a baby, and if you think that women shouldn't have rights over their own body, then we should mandate organ donation and blood donation for all individuals.

      • Willy Beamish on 04/07/2022 - 17:48
        +1

        Says the guy posting that enforcing vaccines is a good thing, pick a lane buddy, either people have the right to choose or they don't.

        • Deals For Days on 04/07/2022 - 17:55
          +14

          Pretty sure vaccine mandates didn't force anyone to get vaccinated. It just didn't allow people to visit certain public venues, which is fair enough if a vaccine is almost certainly risk free and the alternative is spreading a virus that harms people. With Omicron, and lower severity, vaccine mandates are being rolled back which seems fair enough to me.

          Not to mention that the the imposition on making someone to take a vaccine (that has a miniscule risk of any long term adverse affects) in order for them to visit certain public spaces is far, far less than forcing someone to bear a child to term which has very high risks in comparison (https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/maternal-mo…).

          • Willy Beamish on 04/07/2022 - 18:08
            +1

            @Deals For Days: And banning abortion doesn't force anyone not be able to get an abortion, it just means they cant get an abortion if they choose to have sex, which is fair enough considering not having sex is the risk free alternative to having a baby.

            See, I can do it too.

            • Deals For Days on 04/07/2022 - 18:09
              +12

              @Willy Beamish: Except you didn't address the fact that carrying a child to term is far more difficult and risky than having an extremely safe vaccine? Doesn't really make sense to equate the two, one is clearly a bigger ordeal than the other.

              • Willy Beamish on 04/07/2022 - 18:13
                +1

                @Deals For Days: To you, one is "clearly bigger" than the other. Both boil down to exactly the same thing, choice. You are okay when forcing people to do something you agree with and not when it's something you don't. Forcing people to get a vaccine to work doesn't affect you one bit, but you are in favour of it. Vaccine doesn't prevent transmission, it reduces severity for the person infected, that's it.

            • OZKap on 04/07/2022 - 18:33
              +3

              @Willy Beamish:

              banning abortion doesn't force anyone not be able to get an abortion, it just means they cant get an abortion if they choose to have sex, which is fair enough considering not having sex is the risk free alternative to having a baby.

              Rape exists.

              • Willy Beamish on 04/07/2022 - 18:52
                -3

                @OZKap: And?

                • OZKap on 04/07/2022 - 18:53
                  +6

                  @Willy Beamish: Pregnancy is not always a choice.

                  • Willy Beamish on 04/07/2022 - 18:53
                    -3

                    @OZKap: Ok, and?

                    • OZKap on 04/07/2022 - 18:54
                      +6

                      @Willy Beamish: You said

                      banning abortion doesn't force anyone not be able to get an abortion, it just means they cant get an abortion if they choose to have sex, which is fair enough considering not having sex is the risk free alternative to having a baby.

                      • Willy Beamish on 05/07/2022 - 18:02
                        -2

                        @OZKap: And? 1% of women get abortions due to rape, if your entire argument for it is based solely on the 1% then you might want to re-think it. Also, rape =/= sex, unless you're saying the women wanted it…..

                    • sting316 on 04/07/2022 - 19:32
                      +8

                      @Willy Beamish: You seem like that guy that wants to be the smartest in the room but isn't. So, you make up roundabout ways of pushing your agenda on others and when they don't agree talk down to them like you're ahead of the curve.

                      Maybe keep the two separate as one applies to a pandemic and the other applies to the individual.

                      • Willy Beamish on 05/07/2022 - 18:02
                        -1

                        @sting316: "You seem like that guy that wants to be the smartest in the room but isn't"
                        Nice way to start, can't refute argument so tries a childish insult. "Seem like" is something you have going in your head, not based on anything I've said, thanks for the compliment even though you tried to make it an insult. Strike one.

                        "So, you make up roundabout ways of pushing your agenda on others and when they don't agree talk down to them like you're ahead of the curve."
                        Who talked down to who? Who pushed their agenda on others? Literal projection of what you're doing yourself, Strike two.

                        "Maybe keep the two separate as one applies to a pandemic and the other applies to the individual."
                        Both apply to the individual, the pandemic doesn't get vaccinated, the person does. Saying vaccines should be mandated (check the dictionary definition of mandate btw), then coming around saying people have the right to choose what happens to their body only because it's something you disagree on just shows an extreme lack of moral foundation and understanding of why you believe what you believe. You don't believe it because you think people have the right to choose, you believe if because that's what your "tribe" thinks and you want to be a part of something. Strike three, you're out.

                        • sting316 on 06/07/2022 - 17:57

                          @Willy Beamish: Did you just use a baseball analogy on me when you didn't refute any of my claims? Instead, you projected your own opinions as fact.

                          The sheer audacity that you don't know the difference between collective when it comes to a pandemic and individual when it comes to an abortion shows your lack of compassion or social intelligence.

                          Do me a favour, go to the back of the line, study up on that dictionary and try again. Touchdown! Goal! NEXT!

                    • okc0mputer on 04/07/2022 - 22:44
                      +6

                      @Willy Beamish: Wow… Hang your head in shame Willy Beamish, that "Ok, and?" comment was really telling.

                      For the record, you can't equate vaccine mandates and abortions when talking about "people's right to choose". When we talk about people's right to choose, we talk about choices that do not impact other people. Vaccine mandates work at a community level. They are designed to help the public as a whole, and as such, not getting a vaccine MAY put others at greater risk.

                      Abortions are an individual level health intervention. Someone having an abortion does not impact you.

            • FabMan on 04/07/2022 - 23:11
              +4

              @Willy Beamish: "choose to have sex"

              What about rape victims numb nuts?

              "Ok, and?"

              This really shows what kind of person you are.

      • trapper on 04/07/2022 - 17:51
        +4

        What a weird argument.

        A fetus being a 'baby' or not doesn't magically make it a part of the woman's body.

        This is the kind of crazy rhetoric used to justify very late term abortions.

        • Deals For Days on 04/07/2022 - 17:57
          +4

          Never said it was a part of the woman's body. But the rights of the woman herself outweigh the rights of a yet-to-survive-on-its-own fetus. Roe was a perfectly decent standard that said Abortion should be legal up until the limit of viability (22 weeks) which makes perfect sense to me. Late term abortions are rare and generally occur when the child is severely ill/will be stillborn, or in cases where the mother's life is at risk. They do not represent a large % of pregnancies.

          Again, if you can force a woman to carry a child to term - which carries inherent risks for the pregnant mother - then why can't you force people to regularly donate blood?

          • trapper on 04/07/2022 - 18:19
            +1

            @Deals For Days:

            Again, if you can force a woman to carry a child to term…

            You just said you agree with that though, at least after the 22 week cut off? Maybe our views aren't so far apart.

      • Caped Baldy on 04/07/2022 - 17:58
        +2

        I'll add that we could make child support from conception

    • [Deactivated] on 04/07/2022 - 17:45
      +5

      Hillsong entered the chat.

  • Trying2SaveABuck on 04/07/2022 - 17:32
    +5

    cant support such a hot issue this is pretty terrible

    • FabMan on 05/07/2022 - 16:36

      The lack of knowledge is embarrassing.

  • TsundereGuy on 04/07/2022 - 17:32
    +3

    To troll or not to troll.

    • ihfree on 04/07/2022 - 20:03

      Yes.

  • slipkord on 04/07/2022 - 17:37
    +25

    If you had bought previous itch.io mega-bundles before, e.g. Bundle for Ukraine, Palestinian Aid, Racial Justice and Equality … there's a number of games in those mega-bundles that are also present in this mega-bundle, so you probably don't want to be forking out more money for obtaining redundant copies of those game titles (e.g. A Mortician's Tale, Bleed, Bleed 2, Windosill, Catlateral Damage, Beglitched, Lieve Oma, Shutter Stroll, The Floor is Jelly, Calico, Batbarian: Testament of the Primordials, Kaiju Big Battel: Fighto Fantasy)

    … that being said, this current bundle does include a handful of interesting / popular / well-rated indie game titles that had never been previously included in any of the aforementioned past mega-bundles, such as:

    there's probaby a few more I may have missed after my initial look through

    • mantrex19 on 04/07/2022 - 19:32
      +6

      How dare you post a reply that addresses the actual bargain of this post on this bargain site!
      Where is your personal opinion of the bigger issue here which no one asked you for?!?!

      Seriously though thabks for this post and its revelance. No one can deny you of not being on point. Much appreciated.

    • Kail on 05/07/2022 - 10:22
      +1

      Thanks for the analysis, it looks like a lot of shovelware at first but there's some interesting stuff hiding in there.

      Jupiter Moons looks like an interesting deckbuilder too:
      https://jupitermoons.itch.io/mecha

    • gizmomelb on 05/07/2022 - 11:03
      +1

      do a google search for 'tampermonkey script itch.io add games' and you'll find the obvious scripts to add all the games in the bundle to your itch.io account (there are also bulk download scripts for the obvious) as annoyingly the games in the bundle aren't added to your account and you need to manually click 'add' for each one.

  • J4ckal on 04/07/2022 - 17:43
    +7

    Politics aside, I genuinely don't see the deal here. The first three games I checked are all free to download anyway; I am assuming the rest of the other games I have never heard of will be the same.

  • sunnyc on 04/07/2022 - 17:45
    +14

    Of course so many ozbargainers are against abortion. I bet any women would be eagerly begging to abort whatever piece of shit you inserted against her will. Deep down in your subconscious, you very much know with abortion rights that no woman, no surrogate, or even men who were born biologically female will ever have your baby.

    • TEER3X on 04/07/2022 - 17:51
      +1

      We need a poll.

      I'm pro choice personally.

  • ajdj10 on 04/07/2022 - 17:46
    +1

    You also had some very fine people on both sides

  • SahitDagani on 04/07/2022 - 17:57
    +3

    Baby's body not your choice.

    Your choice ended when you irresponsibly consented to unprotected stuff.

    • GrueHunter on 04/07/2022 - 18:08
      +9

      Too bad we have laws that say you're wrong

      No, wait, what's that other word

      Awesome, that's it. Awesome we have laws that say you're wrong

      • SahitDagani on 05/07/2022 - 12:08

        It's a dosgrace we have such laws and a disgrace we have such people who think like that.

    • AustriaBargain on 04/07/2022 - 18:21
      +16

      So you support abortion in cases of rape or when the partner sneakily took the condom off? Or in cases where birth control failed?

      • SahitDagani on 05/07/2022 - 12:08

        I dont think you'll support banning abortion even when rapes are exempted. Then why even bring it up?

        • AustriaBargain on 05/07/2022 - 13:40
          +5

          In his hypothetical scenario of people aborting at 8 months a healthy baby with no defects and no risk to the mother if it was carried to birth, sure I agree with "banning" that, but it doesn't happen so it's a moot point. Even in those six states it doesn't happen. Late term abortion needs to be legal because if it wasn't then people would be stuck paying millions caring for vegetables they give birth to or mothers risk dying in birth because of medical reasons. It's a key issue because people in the US campaign against abortion even when the baby will be born a deformed vegetable or when it will probably kill the mother to birth it. No one is advocating aborting 8 month old babies where the baby and mother are healthy. It just doesn't happen.

    • mantrex19 on 04/07/2022 - 19:39
      +1

      I think you still have some choices until they are legally an adult.

      But hey if you think babies should make their own choices as a right, from the womb itself, all the power to you…well to your babies atleast.

      • SahitDagani on 05/07/2022 - 12:07

        So moms can kill their kids until 18yrs? Is that what you're saying

        • mantrex19 on 06/07/2022 - 01:03
          +1

          No and neither can the dads for that matter, which is why i said some choice, but you said..

          "Baby's body not your choice.
          Your choice ended when you irresponsibly consented to unprotected stuff."

          I was simply pointing out the flaw in your logic which implies that a baby can do as it chooses from within the womb itself.

          • gizmomelb on 06/07/2022 - 03:18
            +1

            @mantrex19: ahh but some cultures (Indian, Chinese) do kill their children when they are born. Especially if they are female.

            • SahitDagani on 06/07/2022 - 06:57

              @gizmomelb: Which is why I'm telling it's wrong. Not culture but people do. The same culture has goddesses for women so they do respect females. But some males are just awful.

  • Deals For Days on 04/07/2022 - 18:04
    +19

    I'd like to share some articles that show what happens when you have hugely restrictive abortion laws, like many states in the US now have active. Spoiler: women die needlessly. Another reason why 'pro-life' should be called 'anti-abortion' - forcing people to carry dead fetuses puts their life at risk, as does prioritising a potential life in the fetus over the life of the already born mother.

    Woman dies in Ireland due to infection after fetus dies and Hospital delays removing it:
    https://news.yahoo.com/woman-ireland-dies-being-denied-abort…

    Polish woman dies of septic shock:
    https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/death-pregnant-woman-ig…

    These kinds of scenarios will almost certainly occur in the US where physicians have already discussed their hesitation to provide required healthcare due to fear of being sued: https://www.texastribune.org/2022/06/23/texas-abortion-law-d…

    • ctg on 04/07/2022 - 18:08
      +3

      TLDR. Spoiler: babies die needlessly.

      • ihfree on 04/07/2022 - 23:28
        +5

        Alternative TLDR: needless deaths due to laws based on denial of science and dark ages level beliefs.

      • FabMan on 05/07/2022 - 03:03
        +4

        Women die due to ignorant idiots.

  • ctg on 04/07/2022 - 18:09
    +13

    Not a deal. Needless to say, human life is worth far more than the combined RRP of all these jank titles.

    • [Deactivated] on 04/07/2022 - 20:19
      +9

      You're lucky we've all run out of our daily negs.

  • bobsmidie on 04/07/2022 - 18:13
    +3

    Love this. Pro games, anti people raising kids they hate

  • VBO on 04/07/2022 - 18:29
    +3

    Abortion is good. It reduces crime rate by terminating possible future criminals.

    • hippyhippy on 04/07/2022 - 20:18
      -2

      well… have many potential Einstein's have been aborted? how many michael jordans? i'd take another Einstein and a few criminals any day… at least the criminals had a choice.

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