Been meaning to buy some more disposable masks and these were fantastic last time.
Wasn't too happy with the $140 at checkout and couldn't find any good codes online so I tried some keywords in the coupon field… SAVE seems to save you an additional 30%. Under $1 per mask.
I tried a few other items too and seems to work on everything, happy to be corrected though. (EDIT; looks like only white masks, black masks code doesn't work?)
Why? Next wave coming and all that jazz
Comfortable because they don't form a tight seal? Or comfortable regardless
Bit of both columns. They are much more comfortable than any N95 I've worn.
Yes, these are quite comfortable to wear for long hours.
nice mask, easy to wear & comfortable
Purchased. I have got through long haul international flights wearing these with lots of sick people on board.
I haven't come down with covid after wearing these on the flights and they made me feel more comfortable.
Planes are one of the safest indoor environments to be in, second only to surgery rooms in terms of air circulation.
Yes that is true. pity about the airports though.
Exactly. The airports seem to have done jack all to improve circulation.
In fact, Melbourne Airport were actively campaigning to remove masks. Wearing masks are proven to keep us all safer so I was disgusted at their approach.
@arcticmonkey: Melbourne Airport weren't the only ones - Canberra Airport are also a bunch of jerks..
https://the-riotact.com/airport-ceo-heartbroken-as-he-prepar…
@arcticmonkey: The case for wearing masks is not as compelling as you suggest. There are a number of studies showing they are ineffective.
Recent studies also suggest that mandatory masking increased case mortality. It seems that deep re-inhalation of condensed droplets or pure virions which were trapped in the mask as droplets can worsen the prognosis.
@prahran: Utter nonsense. They're extraordinarily effective when you consider how few health care workers on Covid wards actually contract Covid.
Good masks for sure but don't seal well enough for me, I tend to stick with AMD P2's which are styled more like a kf94, just mentioning in case anyone has issues with these fitting well like me.
Agree having used both styles, obvious when wearing sunnies or opticals. This style is more prone to give you foggy lens than the AMD.
Yeah, glasses wearer here, wouldn't notice it otherwise but kinda good that I do, better seal = better protection
AMD Ryzen 5000 series or Intel 12th gen masks?
It genuinely annoys me wearing a mask with AMD printed on it! 😂 Luckily the black ones don't have it!
Doesn't work for the black masks unfortunately. :(
Good deal on good masks. If you have a slightly larger than average head though these will pull on your ears and you’ll need a large “ear saver” unless wearing for a quick shopping visit etc. Or go for the AMD P2s which have a larger fit I find.
Is there a source for anywhere even close to this price though? Im seeing almost $2 a mask, not sub$1
I've not tried the AMD P2s but these ones by PPE tech are way more comfortable than N95s or even those blue medical masks everyone wore early pandemic. I have a decent sized noggin too.
Had a look and agree, can't find any at a good price point. I might buy a 10 pack of AMDs to try and if they are bigger, ill wear them when I need one many hours at a time instead of a 30 mins shopping trip.
P2 are dust masks though? Bit unfair to compare with N95.
@entropysbane: Aren’t they the same thing? According to this p2 and n95 are the same.
https://www.health.nsw.gov.au/environment/factsheets/Pages/f…
@entropysbane: No, P2 = Euro standard. N95 = American standard. KN95 = Chinese standard (copying American).
Minor differences in the testing and fit etc… but practically the same. Google it :)
@[Deactivated]: If we were talking about the 3M Aura or 3M Vflex headloop respirators then yeah the P2 is equivalent to the N95.
But not in this specific case it is not. NIOSH would not approve these PPETech masks as N95 because they are earloops as earloops are known to be leaky around the sides, nose, chin.
@brendan0: I don’t mind ear loops… but my problem with the PPE Tech is the nose wire is poor quality.
@brendan0: I don't understand how these can be N95, given they use earloops: https://www.woolworths.com.au/shop/productdetails/112622/sof…
I think the AMD ones are far superior comfort wise because the larger surface areas reduces restriction when inhaling.
restriction when inhaling means the mask works. It's filtering the air you breath in.
Larger surface area means larger filtration area, which in turn means more air gets filtered through. Restriction got nothing to do with filtering the air. There is a reason car air filters are baffled, to create surface area to allow for maximal airflow while filtering particles.
I reckon I might fancy a baffled mask.
There are other factors such as surface area. They meet P2 standards just as well.
Can you send the link of the AMD one? Thanks
Thanks OP. Got some.
Buying 3 packs of 100 worked out cheaper than buying the 250 pack last time.
I couldn't apply the code to the 250 pack for some reason.
my wife loves these but as I have a larger nose they hurt the bridge of my nose after extended periods
You mean a 4th wave?
The next wave. Gotta get them pronouns right :p
Yeah I swear we've had more than 3 waves already
Mexican Wave?
Wearing ppe has nothing to do with fear. It's called infection control. Maybe in the future if you need surgery ask the surgeon to not wear any PPEs because they shouldn't fear infection.
These aren’t n95s.
P2 (Australia/New Zealand AUS/NZ 1716:2012) Respiratory protective devices describe three classes of particulate filter, Class P1, P2 and P3.
The P2 respirator is equivalent to the USA standard N95
Correct, they're p2, this is an Australian product; depending on your testing method preferences: equal to, or slightly better than n95
Surgeons wear masks to inhibit respiratory droplets. As in saliva.
lnfection via corona transmission is predominately vectored by aerosols, and far less likely to be droplets, unless you go around spitting in people's mouths.
Asbestos particulate is on average twice the size. Compare the necessary PPE and then tell me how that 'control' requires extensive equipment, whereas a leopard print piece of cotton that has been washed 82 times can do the same.
Perhaps it's the print. 🙃
Tldr?
https://journals.asm.org/doi/10.1128/mSphere.00637-20
So tell me where does the aerosols come from?
Pretty sure from mouth and nose… And where does the mask go?
Any mask is better than nothing. Also no ppe is 100%. It comes down to chance and luck but we do whatever to mitigate the risk. It is like saying smoking increases risk of lung cancer but does it cause all smokers to get cancer, the answer is no.
@azukay: Aerosols and droplets are as similar as salt and smoke. Get a handful of salt crystals, throw them at a cloth barrier and see them land there.
Blow smoke at the same cloth barrier and see it wisp and willow around any obstacles.
You're analogy is like saying, if my eyes can't see it, it doesn't exist.
Air, and this is a law of physics…air always takes the path of least resistance.
N95s are great at preventing at least 95% of droplets, in a controlled environment (absence of leakages). And unless they effect the laws of physics, cannot do anything for aerosols which are much, much smaller.
If you fart and are wearing your trousers and undies, can you smell it?
@Rickysupertramp: Did you even read the journal article. 90% efficiency against aerosol with n95. Show me a journal that says n95 is ineffective against aerosol.
As it stands you are just farting out bs. There are leakages but does it mean every aerosolised air particle contains covid, no. The study was done with face mask on a mannequin and shown a significant reduction in absorbed particles. Stop sprouting generalised fluid and air dynamics.
@the cringe: My friend's 99 year old dad died after contracting covid who caught it from cleaners who weren't wearing masks due to no mandate as they werent in a nursing home.
It could have been a far lower risk if they wore masks. Watch the states covid daily cases drop once mask mandates come back.
@azukay: He had a lot of years ahead of him
My 19 year old friend died after getting hit by a truck, it would of been a far lower risk if he didn't ride a motorbike or go outside or if we banned the truck driver from earning a living 🤔
@azukay: So you're saying they have found a basic way to divert a fundamental law of physics? 😅
Miraculous!
Why, when asbestos is being handled (asbestos particles are on average, at least double the size of corona particulate) is specialized equipment, respirators and professional negative pressure fit tests required?
Colour me curious.
Perhaps it's this part
"N95s are great at preventing at least 95% of droplets, in a controlled environment (absence of leakages)."
@Rickysupertramp: It's pointless making quotes about particulate sizes when you don't understand how viruses or the masks work. A mask doesn't work like a tea strainer or water filter. Viral particulates are always bonded to something else when they leave the body and an effect called 'Brownian movement' says that the smaller the particulate the more erratic it's movement, meaning that the masks are actually more effective on smaller particulates because they don't travel in a straight line. It's time people learn to accept the fact that others with a greater knowledge of the science involved have performed the necessary test to prove the efficacy of the masks, and to stop quoting irrelevant cherry-picked and unrelated facts to defend their ignorance.
@bigpallooka: It's a bit stretch to insinuate you have it all worked out. I'm fully aware about the bonding. That is pre-school stuff mate. The viral particulate clearly don't fly out by themselves, they are attached to aerosolized vapours and respiratory particulates. Aerosol being the important word here, as it describes its flow pattern and characteristics.
It can easily illustrated by the condensation that wisps up into people's spectacles. By the warm breath that funnels out in a cold day, or much more effectively, for any smokers out there, if you were to breathe out smoke or vape emission, place the mask on and watch it pour out every available minute gap. But obviously "Brownian movement" saves the day…
Ironically, you came in with a cherry picked theory. You're living in a fairy tale if you think gaps in the mask are irrelevant. 😅
@Rickysupertramp: Lol! Good one! None of us have to figure anything out, as the experts have already done all the work. You do know surgical grade masks are electrostatically charged to attract the particulates, right? I'm pretty sure you do. Unfortunately, you seem fixated on a single non-issue without taking into account the plethora of facts that make it moot. The only reason I'm bothering to answer you is in case someone is foolish enough to read your posts without their own means to filter opinion from fact. I'm not up to the pointless task of directing you to the multitudes of official, correct and easily understood explanations on why masks work, as you obviously don't believe them already. You are entitled to an opinion, I just wanted to give others somewhere to start to research the facts if they want to.
@bigpallooka: Masks effectiveness are tested in a controlled environment. As are their results indicative of. Again…Gaps.
It's painful to listen to your cherry picked facts floundering to justify all the flaws in your dispute. 😂
Electrically charged, yes. Which is great for catching smaller particulate which may otherwise pass through the mask. Dear god do you think it's like some sort of magnet for all respiratory matter and that nothing leaves the mask? Really?? 🤣
You're mask would be matted in a couple of hours!
A great place to research is asbestos PPE requirements. Why not wear your electrostatic SuperMask for that?
Why bother with all the professional electronic negative pressure fit testing, all of the specialized respirators, or all of the other essential gear? Why the need to decontam after?
What about the vapour/smoke test?
What about the laws of physics?
Oh but you have your electrostatic facepiece! Tada. 🤣🤣
If only you had the objectivity to listen to yourself.
Oh here we go again. Another of the don't like being told what to do crowd, here to tell us what not to do.
Agreed. If only the monkeys were in charge.
I think they are (the arctic variety) - I’m in QLD and freezing my tits off!
^This.
Luckily there are smarter people out there than wild men like you, bren.
Use a filter boo. Filter out masks, covid, rules and anything else that keeps you awake at night if you dont want to see it.
If you understood the science, you would wear a mask.
Haha the science
How about to economy, the middle class, countless family businesses and lives ruined. Meanwhile the rich doubled, tripled their wealth. Here we go again!
Yes, the science. Like how 1 in 20 have gotten long covid, which includes cognitive decline alongside debilitating symptoms like extreme fatigue which will lead to more economic impact, and how each reinfection is more severe.
Just do your bit and try not to spread it, it's not hard.
@supersour: What about the science of the no refund side effects
Been doing my bit just like everyone else despite my opinion which I have the right to (just to shut up the whinging of others) but enough is enough and I refuse to play along with this crap any more
People seem to forget that even if there were bodies on the street collapsed dying from long covid, short covid, monkey covid, ligma covid, there would be some people that still choose to not wear a mask.
Haha the science
How about to economy, the middle class, countless family businesses and lives ruined. Meanwhile the rich doubled, tripled their wealth. Here we go again!
Red Herring much?
I'm using that.
Use your mask after getting the 4th dose of the vacksthene and then still get covid
@misterpotatomato: It's spelled "the jab" because it's not a vaccine.
And you die "with covid" remember
What science, like air always takes the path of least resistance. Always. That science?
No, not that science… 🙃
cringe.
You're not wrong there
You could also, you know, not buy the masks? Plenty of other ozbargain items you don't buy cause you dont want/need them, add this to your list.
You could also, ya know, move to China to get the full communist experience
Lead by example bud. Cya
Are these individually wrapped?
the page says "Note: These masks will be sent individually wrapped into a satchel."
yes they are.
How many consecutive days will you use them before feeling it is time to dispose them? I am using the cheap surgical one, 5$ a box :-D
Can you tell me how a surgical mask prevents aerosols from being shared?
Less is less. Even if some particles get out, it’s still less than if you have no covering.
Or you could get that Dyson personal air purifier and actually increase what particles you send out into the air around you 😬
Perhaps you don't quite get 'the science'…
@WhyAmICommenting: Sure do: http://www.google.com
Pretty sure you can come across thousands of articles there 😉
…You know how to use Google, yeah?
Or hey, less censorship: http://www.entireweb.com
Magic!
Thanks OP
I find these to be very comfortable masks to wear