Previously only offered as a full fee paying place ($48,164), now available as a Commonwealth Supported Place (CSP) at $21,936 less 10% for upfront payment = $19,742.40. Can be completed online or in person at the Sydney city campus or Wollongong campus.
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Hmm I am actually wanting to do this course. Despite all the people saying it's useless. It serves a purpose in business administration in health.
Don't let the comments discourage you. I'm sure it covers the relevant course material. Just like @virhlpool mentioned there are varying qualities of institutions. If you are working and don't need: recruitment, alumni association, to do the GMAT, or B schools that use case study methods— this might be right for you.
Mba generally or this UOW one?
I've been looking into it too. Specifically this one.
I didn't realise it wasn't always CSP. But also didn't realise you still save 10% for upfront. Presumably that's on a course by course basis.
Very relevant to health sector - a significant proportion of leadership and business process research comes from that sector, due to its complexity.
+1 for the OP because it is a deal!
<Rant Begin> It's incredible how a university education has become a business product in Australia. Remember when you had to compete to get into university? Not only did you have to get good grades to get into uni, I had professors that would give you ridiculous questions on topics not covered just to humble you — so you had to earn that 50 or 60% credit. Nowadays, you have Universities being told to 'dumb down' material for students so that they can keep the class average at around 70%. Everyone and their dog graduates with "distinction" now. Yes there are those that are using the Australian education sector to buy themselves immigration or a gateway to other opportunities — but isn't that what education is about? Giving you more opportunities? Is it the immigrant's fault that Australia has so many low quality degree granting universities? On a side note, I have a few friends from India and Hong Kong that came to Australia by doing a Masters degree and they remarked how it was easier than high school in their country. <Rant End>.
Mate, you forgot to put </Rant End>. Can you fix it so I can read the rant properly.
as you can see i went to youtube university lol
YouTube Uni clearly don’t teach paragraphing. I guess it makes sense since it’s a video platform.
Do you have a Masters? And how long has it been since you studied? Your generalisation, and that of many others in the thread, really don't ring true for me.
As for your comments about our standards, and those described by your Indian friends, that's a very big an unfair generalisation. The strength of education in the subcontinent and south East Asia is the technical skills while our focus is theoretical research and analysis. Australian are very sought after consultants and analysts.
Thoretical research and analysis in business economics? Really, since the whole financial system cycles, not sure what grads would be theorizing
You go to university to learn three things no matter what you study:
That's it. Anyone hoping to learn more than that is kidding themselves. The reason the top MBA schools are expensive is not because they give you more than that it's because they are a fantastic place to network and meet other like minded people. That's why people pay a lot of for MBAs at elite schools. If you are going straight from undergraduate to an MBA you will get very little out of it and don't understand what it's for.
No degree prepares any graduate for an actual job. You learn the practical skills on the job.
When i was at uni in the early 2000’s for some subjects in tests/exams we actually had a negative mark rule where if you got a multiple choice answer wrong you would get marked -0.25 or -0.5 for that answer. I guess this was to discourage guessing and fluking the tests/exams.
Uni’s are basically degree factories now. It’s no longer arts vs science and institutions where research, activism and perhaps self discovery dominate student life. It’s a place where people study to try and get a job in as narrow a field as possible according to industry trend. Then your degree becomes useless after a few years as that trend is no longer present - at least you would have the required experience by then to not require that piece of paper anymore :)
About as cognitively difficult as passing high school physics & maths
Lol not at all.
Waaay easier.
MBA far far easier than my first degree.
Just hand in some half way decent assignments and off you go.
Should be part time 2.5 years, 16 subjects. See you later.
I guess I was being generous - didn't want to downplay the educational achievements of many Liberal Party voters too much
I completed an MBA in my late 20s/early 30s in Queensland. I used it to mainly make the jump from software engineering to middle management.
An MBA is kind of an all rounder degree that gives you a little bit of leadership and a little bit of business strategy, law, accounting so you know enough to work in a management role. Most of the people in my course were domestic and trying to transition from sales, consulting or team lead type roles into middle management or low level director/general manager roles. There were a handful of international students, and they were all generally on the same level of career trajectory and unlike undergrad had very high levels of English.
An MBA is a useful degree if you are looking to transition into management, but they are expensive and take a lot of time so you really need to weigh up if it's going to have a good return on investment for you individually. For me, coming from a STEM background, the MBA gave me a really solid grounding in business and leadership skills I hadn't really learnt through my previous study or on the ground at work.
Most of the basic business/HR/Law stuff should have been covered off in an engineering degree. I don't think they do this anymore.
Mine did and the MBA was largely an (easy) repeat.
I'm seriously thinking of taking up an MBA course as I progress further on my career path.
Did you have to reduce your working hours while completing MBA part time?
No, most people complete while working full time. Some do one unit at a time (4 years) and some do two at a time (2 years). Some are able to do 3 units at a time and also work full time but you wouldn't have time for much else in your life.
They run trimester pattern and classes are typically weeknights 530-730 or weekends.
Or 6-10 pm as well as weekends as mine was.
Get it done as fast as possible and move on to better things in life.
I did the majority of my MBA without reducing hours and all the classes were between 6pm and 9pm. The school I went to also had 6 week teaching periods, so I did skip a few teaching periods when work was busy and picked up 2 subjects when work was a bit quieter. It does take up a lot of time, so working a 9 day fortnight might make things a little easier, and I did this for the last few teaching periods, but it was definitely optional for me.
Can one get Shopback or Cash Rewards with this offer?
Yes. Just make sure you use your gift cards as well.
Cashrewards probably less, but actually pay out lol (/s)
Where's Tightarse when you need him? I could be really swayed by $1 cashback on this offer.
with 18 years of corporate experience I would say that added value of MBA depends on your current skillset and where you aim to be
however MBA isn't a requirement to advance in life, including compensation. working in a perspective industry without MBA might earn you more than having an MBA and working in an industry that's less profitable
at the end of the day what really matters is doing what you love. if you love administration MBA might be a good deal for you, otherwise depends.
Personally i think it is a good place to pick up.. chicks at this sort of place of education and study are usually ready to go and real go getters.. but for this degree they might be a bit too businessy.. ultimately arts and psychology is where it's at
Wait what are we talking about
it's better to make profit with love, rather than make love with profit, that's what you're saying I guess
I concur well said my fellow padawan
https://www.linkedin.com/in/associate-professor-martin-o-bri…
https://www.sydneybusinessschool.edu.au/student/student-reso…
Is he the guy that in charge? seem like he was a lecturer most of the time?
Important things to consider:
Are there many networking events with alumni’s?
Do they organize career fairs?
What organizations do they maintain relationships with? Who recruits from uow directly?
Data on where past students are working now.
University resources.
Professor backgrounds. What they have accomplished.
No one talks bad about the mba they got from a top school. It’s mostly the people who don’t have one. If you’re not going to go to a top school then it doesn’t matter where you go. 2nd tier 3rd tier they are all the same.
Mba from an average uni might not help you much but you’ll still learn a lot of skills about running a business. If you’re an employee you’ll start to understand why things happen the way they do.
Also don’t forget you might be able to get your employer to pay for it or get tax benefits depending on your situation.
But keep in mind CSP negates the possibility of claiming tuition as a work expense.
Is this like the NBA or different asking for a friend who wants to make over 85k in a no skill no stress job
Correct me if I am wrong. Being offered as CSP is different than someone getting that seat (it's not guaranteed) and will be known after admission?
I don't really follow what you're asking but your offer (before you enrol) will specify if it's a CSP or full fee.
Ah ok, thanks, one more question: chances of getting CSP seat in university of Sydney Vs Wollongong are almost same right? Not sure if you know, as I understand there are only limited CSP seats. Sorry for my bad English
Check whether this is a full time MBA or executive MBA (part time, that is, students work and go to classes in the evening and perhaps week long offsites once or twice a semester).
Don't bother with the full time one - mostly inexperienced students. Exec MBA worthwhile, usually with minimum 10+years work experience, especially if your employer is paying $50+k for your tuition and obviously you get time off for the offsites, but you are effectively doing two jobs over 18months/2 years.
Not sure your understanding of the differences between an Executive MBA and MBA are accurate but the MBA can be done part time after hours.
In the past most full time MBAs were for students straight out of/shortly after their undergraduate course. The distinction is that this course is less valuable compared to the executive MBA - the best and brightest will get value and and join management consultancies or continue at one. I'm not sure of the value to other students.
My understanding is good, but could be dated; I have EMBA from the AGSM.
This one is full time or part time. But it is not executive MBA. They do have an EMBA also - but 2.5 times the cost 68k, and I don't think it's CSP so that's the real cost.
Okay, see my comment above and ignore the full time/part time bit. EMBAs cost more because the students have much more work experience, for many their employers are paying, and there might be onsite/non-traditional class components.
Thanks OP. Gonna sign up for this then quit my job and never pay the course fees back. Seems like a win-win.
LOVE YOU OP. Was going to study Masters of Business Analytics at Monash for $50k but now doing it for $13k. Fantastic
Xo.
UoW/SBS also had a master of Business anal for sthr same price as dis
I thought Sydney Business School is "The University of Sydney Business School".. Lmao - Sydney Business School is from University of Wollongong, Australia.
I got a friend told me he graduated from MIT - which turn out it is MIT Sydney. lol
Thanks OP. Finished a Grad Cert in Business last year, my first foray into post-HSC academia and it definitely helped me career and confidence-wise having come from a technical career - so I figured that an MBA would be that much more useful. That pricing is very competitive. Thanks again for taking the time to post this.
Hope you finish it off!
With so many free to play MoBA's, I don't know why someone would pay this much…
Please tell me more. Are we talking Australian?
Got my offer for dual Master's of Bus. Analytics + Project Management. CSP confirmed for both degrees on the offer letter.
Thanks again OP
Nice, glad to hear it, are you going to study online only?
Yes, online only.
Trimester part-time is tricky as I work full-time already. A full trimester load is 3 subjects per trimester, but I can't really do 1.5 subjects, so gotta decide on 2 or 1. Will chat to the UoW courses coordinator about this
In my experience the course coordinator is not going to tell you much you don't already know. I.e. doing one subject will be less load then doing two.
I'd encourage you to enroll in two and then withdraw if concerned after receiving course outlines about the load. You get about 3 weeks between start of lectures and census date. There is no penalty for withdrawing before census date. I've found different courses to have very different demands partly because of my existing knowledge/strengths and partly because of their structure.
I know people that work full time and do 3 units per trimester, I couldn't do it though. I did two per trimester pre-baby, doing one now we've got a newborn.
For MBA each subject is offered every second trimester, not sure if that's the case for other courses.
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