Just received an email from Telstra -
Save $200 off RRP on Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro.
Other deals in the email -
$100 off Samsung S21 FE 5G - $899
Bonus gift on Samsung S22 Series purchase - Samsung Watch4, choose either Black 44mm or White 40mm (By checking the serial numbers under T&C, they are the LTE model).
The coming 6a will priced at $749 with 60hz screen and with same old carmra system since pixel 3.
And an admission of screw-up with the Pixel 6 series fingerprint scanner, by saying they're putting new hardware in.
I am happy with my pixel 6 for the last 6 months. Yes , the fingerprint is not good. Google should add face unlock.
By the way pixel phone is very expensive in Australia. The 6 RRP should start from $849 , 6 and not 999. The 6 pro should start at $1099. The a serie should start from $549.
@Lyltc521: Unbelievable how they could screw it up when other brands get it right. Google thing though lol.
True about the mark up we have here in Australia a bit stupid really
@Lyltc521: Just a query was thinking of getting a pixel 6 ,can you just type in a number code or a password instead of the fingerprint scanner to use your phone?
@Francis82: You can use any of the available Android authentication methods. Password, pattern, finger etc
@reactor-au: Yea I'd be doing that ,takes 2seconds to open that way over messing about with the other gimmicks
@Francis82: Of course, and the fingerprint isn't as bad as peoples emotions let on either. You just have to hold it for 1/4 a second longer.
@Danthemanz: Haven't tested one but what was wrong with the hardware reader on the back. They just change stuff for the sake of it or aesthetics, just to make it more like an iPhone.
Speakers under the screen is a bit crap too, but helps with water proofing. A bezel and better speakers wasn't that bad.
They just change stuff for the sake of it or aesthetics, just to make it more like an iPhone.
Change for change sake.
Every new technology goes through a rapid development cycle where you get considerable advantage with the newer model. But it then peaks out and only has gradual improvements after that initial phase, so manufacturers need to invent new gimmicks to keep the sales figures up.
I compared a new 6 with a second hand 5 and the 5 still won IMO. That shows the level of innovation we are at now.
@G-rig: Has the best speakers out of any phone over IMO, no idea what you are talking about.
why did they change the fingerprint, it’s been six years, they wanted to compete.
unfortunately it’s a bit slow. it may be more secure, that’s obviously very difficult to prove.
personally I own the iPhone 13 pro, and a pixel six pro.
I swap my personal and work Sims back and forward all the time, I can’t work out which I like better. Mainly because I like a slightly smaller flat screen and integration with my other Apple equipment, but the pixel six is the superior productivity and consumption device.
The voice dictation alone puts it in a different class of device to anything else on the market.
@Danthemanz: Yes I'm saying I'd rather the fingerprint scanner on the 5 that is proven and Fast, over the 6 which is trying to copy apple and not as good
@Danthemanz: I wipe the screen occasionally, also seems to help reduce problems but it never going to be instant like my old pixel 2
@Danthemanz: They fixed it with updates but at the start it was horrendous in hands on videos haha. Surprised cos there's been decent hardware out there for a couple of years now when it comes to under display FP scanners.
@Lyltc521: The 6 and 6 Pro are $599/$899 US before taxes. So at the current 0.7 exchange rate and accounting for GST, that's $940/$1,412. So the Aussie prices aren't that bad… Actually pretty good for the 6 Pro, even before these Telstra discounts.
Oh did they say this? When?
Zero problems with the fingerprint scanner on my Pixel 6 pro. I still not recommend it as a phone.
Yes $749 RRP, but it will work out significantly cheaper. There were plenty of opportunities to buy discounted giftcards for use at JB, meaning 10% to 15% saving, in addition to any deals they might do.
Yes and no.
You can use giftcard for Samsung and Apple too. Yes , it make the the phone cheaper to buy. But it work for all other phone, pixel phone in Australia is over price . You got discount from giftcard, not from RRP price.
@Lyltc521: Strictly comparing this deal on the Pixel 6 with the upcoming 6a. With Telstra the $799 is it for the 6, I don't know of a way to get anything more off that price. With JB the 6a will cost me just $638.
That means I'd have to value the camera $160 more plus a dodgy finger print sensor and 9 months less updates.
@1st-Amendment: Can't find the actual deal, but similar to this when they had the 'Home' card with 15% discount. 'Home' includes JB and GoodGuys.
You got discount from giftcard, not from RRP price
Why do you care how you get the discount as long as you can get one?
You need an existing service to get this deal though. I'm not sure why these Telstra deals aren't classified as Targeted or with some other qualifier as they aren't available to everyone. Same with those Samsung trade in deals
Agreed. I think you can also get a $2 sim, register it to your account and that counts as an existing service
Are all bags and issues fixed now ?
I never received a bag but the box arrived perfect
The spill chick and aura collection worms like mages
Is that just coincidental or are they just very nice mages?
It might be confidential, but it might also be iconic
No. I will never buy a pixel again and do not recommend the phone. So many bugs still unfixed over 6 months later.
another pixel owner here. will not be getting one again either.
had screen replaced for a crack. fingerprint scanner simply will not work now.
known about issue and google refuses to fix.
https://issuetracker.google.com/issues/217589152
user beware…
No issues at all. No bugs. Pixel 6 pro
@Drpepper666: xD its the perfect phone!
honestly though, i think they just dont care anymore? maybe they used to? or maybe i just had a glowing image of what google was through other users experiences of previous google phones. :S
but that is no longer :(
I bought it on the first day of sales. And returned it one week later.
Zero problems for me. Still would not recommend.
256gb been OOS for weeks/months
i would buy for 50% off
Just like I did with pixel 3xl, then price protection claimed within a year.
Nothing wrong with my pixel 5, upgrading to the 6 is pointless considering the issues (they should have kept the fingerprint scanner on the back, and or at least add face unlock.
Be nice if they could improve the loudspeakers volume/quality, and also the earpiece speaker. Annoying Under the screen and the maximum volume isn't always great in noisy environments. It's good enough but noticed a stepdown from from the 3xl.
Will wait for the 7 before upgrading.
There's bugs on this phone that still haven't been fixed since pixel 2. definitely worth waiting till 7 to see if it has more to offer
What bugs have persisted since the pixel 2?
- I've only ever had the OG XL which was great (except for battery life).
Been praying for a decent pixel device ever since switching to an s10e (I really don't like Samsung's android skin, and don't want to have to root to remove the stock Samsung apps)
Is it worth waiting for the Pixel 7 to be released later this year (est October2022) or is 20% off a Pixel 6 a good deal? Current 3.5yr old phone is really buggy/terrible battery life. Pixels generally don't have discounts when they're first released so would likely launch at $999 assuming no price change to Pixel 6.
I think pixel 7 will start $1099 and 7 pro will start $1399 in Australia. The 6a will start at 749 already.
pixel 7 pro will have a super camera
I think 7 pro will have same camera as 6 pro, but software refinement and redesign of outfits. Google will use same chip as Samsung watch 1 for its new pixels watch. Google 6a will use same main camera since Pixel 2?3?.
Google will not change main hardware every year
Would be getting the 6a but the 60hz screen rules it out for me
I hear Pixel 8 Pro will be a true competitor to the original iPhone
Lol
Fanbois triggered
Google says 3 years of OS updates and 5 years of security updates.
Samsung give 4 years is updated, and Apple give 5 or 6 years
I didn't want the wrath of fans.
10 years Android user right now. At $1k I'd go iPhone 12 unless you have a serious need to be on Android
I am always use android, I think it easy to use than iOS . But I am not pay over $1000 for Android phone for myself. I was OnePlus 3t, 7owner and stop use OnePlus when the price over 1k. I bought iPhone over $1000 for my wife as she like iPhone and she only update a new iPhone every 3 to 4 years.
i'm a longtime android user and am seriously thinking of switching to iphone too.
Even at $500-$700 a refurbished older iphone seemed better value than overpriced pixel I feel.
@iluvOzB: Also pretty sure with Google we are also handing over more of our user data at these prices.
Probably helping to fund the billions Google Apple to remain as default search on Safari browser
@netjock: Literally the primary concern of google is to get as much data from you as possible. Hence the google phone hey.
@onlinepred: Yep, and we pay them hundreds of dollarbucks to allow them to then take all that information from us. A strange world we live in.
@onlinepred: At least for the Nexus it was because Google wasn't happy at fragmentation of OS and wanted to set a standard (for taking your data), same with Android One programme.
Pixels I think have strayed a bit from that to focus on camera quality. But for $1k probably a big no.
@iluvOzB: I am a long time Android user, used to hate iPhones but I bought one an iPhone X the guy forgot the iCloud password to. Can use the app store no worries so I just use it as a sort of iPod Touch for playing games and as my camera since it's way better quality than my OnePlus
The finish on the phone feels really nice and the screen is amazing. I dislike a bunch of stuff in iOS compared to Android but it's not the huge divide that it used to be as Apple have eventually copied the popular Android features and now can do a lot of the things you do on Android with the latest iOS software updates.
-1 year for apple due to not having modulisation like android. Can't update the bloody maps without a system update.
As an android user.
You mean Apple maps?
Isn't there google maps app for iOS?
Why do you care about apple maps? Just use google maps…
I'm sure a lot of apple users would still use google maps and Gmail, at least I would :)
Samsung takes 1 year to push out an android update so it's the same anyway lol
Don't know about Google, but after when I was hyped about pixel 6, and use it couple of months, I ended up trading it in for S22 Ultra. So much bugs and instability, software updates are not in timely manner (used to be rolling out first day of the month but hasn't been the case) and worst of all, lost the Google Photo unlimited storage, not even at reduced quality level! So far, happy camper with S22 Ultra.
Two reasons I got pixel phone,
Pixel take better photos- at least for me.
Pixel stock android feel good than one UI
Used to be true a few years back. Not really relevant anymore, you can theme Samsungs easily btw. Usually if you like tech and customising you would get a Samsung, but these days they are just great, high quality phones, which pixel hasn’t been able to touch.
Pixel stock android feel good than one UI.
Does it feel gooder?
I left samsung because of them forcing bloatware. I feel like you either deal with pixels bugs, or samsung's bloatware.
Still salty that Sammy made Facebook a "system app" so you can't (easily) uninstall it.
I want to decide what goes on my phone thank you.
Straw that broke samsungs' camel's back for me was that I had disabled facebook (and it's services) for a year or two, then one of their updates re-enabled it.
I know with previous Pixel phones bought from Telstra, there's been the issue of Telstra
delaying the software updates so as to make sure they work smoothly within the Telstra network.
Which peeved a lot of Pixel users as the timely software updates were a selling point.
The whole idea of Google phones is to get pure Android without any telco bloat, or Samsung rubbish.
Good getting updates early..
Just get all the google bloat and rubbish?
yes when telco's used to customise them with branding etc.
The point is, MATE, is the ota updates would take ages to come through compared to the pure Google phones, and devices locked to networks etc. Talking about the nexus 6 days and earlier.
Just get all the google bloat and rubbish?
What are you talking about? Pixel comes with pure Android, no bloat. With Samsung, Telstra, Oppo etc you are getting customised versions of Android with customised UI's and launchers etc. With anything customised you are then at the mercy of the provider for updates which they may or may not decided to release.
@1st-Amendment: You are at the mercy of Google with their version of android too though? There have been a few updates that came later to Pixel than other android phones, which shows just how customised the Pixels are compared to stock AOSP.
I mean the Pixel comes pre loaded with all the google branded apps, pixel launcher, super basic theming/customisations ability.
You are at the mercy of Google with their version of android too though?
Every Android phone is. So the choice is have one dependency or many. Every extra dependency adds more risk and more delays with updates.
@1st-Amendment: Well no not really, AOSP gets the update first, then Pixel/every other manufacturer. The biggest delays last year for flagship android was the Pixel update.
So if security patches are your primary concern, Pixel update history isn't something to be proud of.
Remember, Pixel version of AOSP is customised. It adds many things on top of AOSP, and needs it's own separate testing on the hardware that it supports. Just like other manufactures.
Pixel update history isn't something to be proud of.
Release dates:
Android 12
Pixel: Oct 2021
Samsung: Jan 2022 through to May 2022 depending on device
Android 11
Pixel: Sept 2020
Samsung: Dec 2020 through to August 2021 depending on device
An 3-11 month lag time for a product that is only current for a year is pathetic.
@1st-Amendment: Yea that’s major OS releases, not security patches…..
Talk about pathetic, pixel 6 went 3 months without security patches. While s21 and s22 have not.
Agreed 3 months is a long time. Given the amount of bugs pixels get after new releases though, it gives time to rectify them - the only silver lining.
Also fyi, those OS updates went to all devices from s10 onwards. Which of further back than google did. Explains the up to 12 months part hey. Even mid end phones.
Yea that’s major OS releases, not security patches…..
Oh, so you're shifting the goal posts from 'updates' to 'specific updates that you care about'? Cool…
pixel 6 went 3 months without security patches. While s21 and s22 have not.
For the first 3 months the 6 was on Android 12 while the s21 and 22 were stuck with the older Android 11.
those OS updates went to all devices from s10 onwards.
My Pixel 3a which was released about the same time as the S10 got the latest Android the same time as the Pixel 6, not 10 months later (10 months!)
Which of further back than google did Explains the up to 12 months part hey. Even mid end phones.
Went back the to same generation, in much less time, even mid end phones.
Interesting note: Android 13 Beta is available already for Pixel. Samsung's version won't be available until at least July…
Oh, so you're shifting the goal posts from 'updates' to 'specific updates that you care about'? Cool…
I did mention security patches. If you are only concerned with having new features, and not security patches, I can see that it wouldn't concern you. For most though, security patches should be the more important thing in general.
For the first 3 months the 6 was on Android 12 while the s21 and 22 were stuck with the older Android 11.
Yes, but the S series had the latest security patches while pixel did not for 3 months. So again, if you want the latest features, or a secure phone, the choice is yours right?
My Pixel 3a which was released about the same time as the S10 got the latest Android the same time as the Pixel 6, not 10 months later (10 months!)
Correct, but some S10 devices will get android 13, while 3a looks to not be.
Interesting note: Android 13 Beta is available already for Pixel. Samsung's version won't be available until at least July…
Yes, this has always been the way. If you are into beta testing, you are looking at buggy software that is not up to date with security patches, so again, if security isn't a concern, this is a nice feature for Pixel.
Your Pixel 3a will receive it's last patch/update in July, then its dead in the water. S10 though will continue to get security patches for another year.
I did mention security patches.
You mean these patches which are only specific to flaky Samsung apps?
SVE-2021-23918 (CVE-2022-28789): Unprotected activities in Voice Note
SVE-2022-0763 (CVE-2022-28790): Improper authentication in Link to Windows Service
SVE-2022-0817 (CVE-2022-28791): Improper input validation in Galaxy Store
SVE-2022-0539 (CVE-2022-28792): DLL hijacking vulnerability in Gear IconX PC Manager
SVE-2021-23587 (CVE-2022-28793): Improper state maintenance in Strong Box
SVE-2021-23930 (CVE-2022-27838): Improper access control in Factory Camera
SVE-2021-23993 (CVE-2022-27839): Improper authentication vulnerability in Secret Mode in Samsung Internet
SVE-2021-24297 (CVE-2022-27841): A vulnerability that view the screen that is previously running in Samsung Pass without authentication
SVE-2022-0117 (CVE-2022-28542): Possible to access arbitrary content providers as Galaxy Store permission
SVE-2022-0269 (CVE-2022-28543): Path traversal vulnerability in Samsung Flow
SVE-2022-0358 (CVE-2022-28544): Path traversal vulnerability in Galaxy store
So again, if you want the latest features, or a secure phone,
Based on the above I wouldn't be claiming Samsung to be any more secure than anything else. It is likely to be less secure because all those crap apps increase the vulnerability footprint.
@1st-Amendment: Oh dear… don't look at the critical google pixel only ones then hahahahaha
https://source.android.com/security/bulletin/pixel/2022-05-0…
Peace out champ, clearly you have your blinkers on and are fanboying hard. This is why you get updates mate, to fix these issues. Now imagine if you didn't get these fixes for 3 months, like pixel did. Imagine 3x the below critical security issues not being fixed on a pixel only…. Imagine Samsung pushing out all the Android security patches, while Google do not to their devices. You tell me which is more secure then hey?
Pixel
CVE-2022-20120 A-203213034* RCE Critical Bootloader
CVE-2022-20117 A-217475903* ID Critical Titan-M
CVE-2021-4083 A-216408350 Upstream kernel EoP High Kernel
CVE-2022-20118 A-205707793* EoP High Kernel
CVE-2022-20119 A-213170715* ID High Display/Graphics
CVE-2022-20121 A-212573046* ID High USCCDMService
don't look at the critical google pixel only ones then hahahahaha
What an odd response, clearly you've been triggered by something here…
Imagine Samsung pushing out all the Android security patches, while Google do not to their devices.
I listed the latest Samsung 'security patches' all of which were specific to Samsung only. Why would Pixel patch a Samsung vulnerability? That makes absolutely no sense.
You tell me which is more secure then hey?
You seem to have a misunderstanding of the basic fundamentals of security. More patches doesn't mean you are more secure… especially when ALL of your patches are for your own bloatware.
and are fanboying hard
And this passes for a logical response to you? I have only presented facts, if that triggers you then maybe you need to look in the mirror a bit harder…
What are you talking about? Pixel comes with pure Android, no bloat. With Samsung, Telstra, Oppo etc you are getting customised versions of Android with customised UI's and launchers etc
Correct. That's why I choose PIxel and outright, don't want custom launchers or firmware etc (like with Samsung, Oppo).
@G-rig: Yep, hence why I bought an iPhone, I don't really customise my phone much anymore, just use them stock.
@onlinepred: Same, no need to customise Pixels either.
I still remember how painful it was back in the early days of PDAs and early Androids, downloading roms and custom crap, manual app installs
@G-rig: Yep haha, I had requirements that it had to have an SD card just so I can download roms. Was fun days. I remember loading beta android before it was released onto my Windows CE device the old HTC Touch haha. I'm so glad I don't do that anymore though, trying to gain better performance and features out of roms, but made your phone buggy and had to keep wiping data and reinstalling everything. So many days I would have a phone that was barely usable… I really enjoyed it, but I don't miss it that's for sure haha.
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