For anyone interested in some news from outside the conglomerates of Nine and Murdoch.
Since its launch The Saturday Paper has maintained a focus on long-form journalism and in-depth coverage of current affairs, arts and Australian politics.
For anyone interested in some news from outside the conglomerates of Nine and Murdoch.
Since its launch The Saturday Paper has maintained a focus on long-form journalism and in-depth coverage of current affairs, arts and Australian politics.
Highly recommend the Saturday Paper. A different view than the billionaires from Nine and Murdoch who get money/welfare off the LNP.
Love the sarcasm
Bases entire political association of a news source by judging a front page. Classic.
That’s they way I judge books.
Well it says a lot about you, eh?!
XD
Well, don’t.
If you judge the book by the cover, do you also judge the look by the lover?
Or the cook by the bovver, or the mook by his muvver?
I hope you'll soon recover
Me I go from one extreme to another…
"Never judge lovers by good looking covers" - Phil Lynott
iT'S alL FakE newS
Scumdog scomo is negging us
The Saturday Paper is left-centre, so for a lot of people here they will regard it as a far right wing publication.
Why do you think this?
I corrected it for you —-> "The Saturday Paper is centre, so for a lot of people here they will regard it as a far left wing publication".
That's because in their eyes, anything left of Skynews, is a commie propagandist…
Bring on The Royal Commission!
Bang on
The upvote count proves you wrong and OP right… Ozbargain is pretty left leaning, it is what it is, no point trying to make up stories about how right wing ozbargain is.
Every Murdoch related deal gets downvotes just for having a connection to the "bad guy" and every left leaning post like this gets hundreds of upvotes… Even though everyone can already get their "news" for free, so it's hardly a deal worthy of hundreds of upvotes.
Haha, sorry my comment triggered you.
@jackspratt: You use apparently to indicate that the information you are giving is something that you have heard, but you are not certain that it is true.
@heal: Nope - I used "apparently" because I didn't want to presume what was going on in your head* when you accused others of being "triggered".
an unsafe place - based on some of the stuff you have posted here.
So true. I couldn't post this stuff on twitter. Very unsafe!
People who are far from the centre feel that almost everyone is far to the other side.
I love the long-form journalism in The Saturday Paper, with good analysis and background.
Soooo many 'journalists' at other news outlets must wish they could do this instead of the "..publish this press release…" jobs they do now.
Agree, nice to get in-depth articles rather than click bait headlines.
Yes it's nice when Opinion pieces are marked as so, rather then then the comment/option passed off as journalism/reporting. And then there's the click bait churnalism.
It's puzzling why journalist seem to think they need to be part of the story and their thoughts are what people want to hear about.
so true… TSP is worthwhile supporting just for decent objective journalism. I subscribe to this, together with 'The Conversation' and 'The Guardian Australia' as I would like to think of trying to save a free press who also still look out for hiring decent competent journos and ediiors.
Don't bother calling me out as a lefty, commie, tree hugger etc. You don't know me and you haven't got a clue Sunshine. Tough luck if I am not singing from your song book.
Probably the best newspaper in Australia. Not for people with short attention spans. Excellent in-depth analysis.
Their coverage of Palestine issues isn't great, but that's normal in Australia.
You a Palmer or Hanson fanboy voting for the LNP indirectly?
"Their coverage of Palestine issues isn't great, but that's normal in Australia."
Try Crikey.com.au
https://www.crikey.com.au/search/?q=Palestine&by_date=1m#gsc…
Any deals on subscribing this and the monthly?
The Saturday Paper's tag-line is "A free press is one you pay for" so I wouldn't hold out hope for a sale :(
I used to read them when I worked at a newsagency so I might subscribe now I have actual money… but I would love a discount.
:O
Well done!
Another good, free, daily online publication is The New Daily
A lot of people might perceive them to be biased, since they're owned by Industry Super holdings and could potentially have vested interests in pushing their own agenda.
However, you must also note that Industry Super, by their nature, want the best for their members, which comprises most of ordinary Australians.
Yes just like the unions want the best for Australia.
The paper sided with Labor on the front page, it said it’s time for Albanese. Of course it is biased.
Labor voters only have a problems with news sites when they are biased towards conservatives. They have no problems with the majority of news being left leaning.
You say that yet the LNP has been gutting the ABC for years despite independent reports showing the ABC has always been neutral with at most a slight bias towards the LNP!
I'm not going to say one side hates X and another hates Y. That's just meaningless generalisation. However when you look at the facts around who owns the media in this country. When you look at how the LNP spending is cutting ABC spending whilst also stacking the board with their mates. You can't deny that we need major reform to balance the media environment back to the centre and away from the right.
@Subada: The ABC is biased as hell.
Every single retired anchor and news reporter from the ABC who speak out publicly has either run for office or campaigned for Labor at elections.
All of them, without exception, especially this election, they are out in force.
@Grok: You need a degree to be a journalist so it's not a surprise that individually the journalists are Labor supporters. They can only act politically once they're out of a job and till then they need to tow the line as set by the execs.
But who do you think has more power to set the overall narrative? The individual anchors or the top bosses on the board of directors? The board is stacked with LNP stooges.
Almost all the directors of the ABC’s eight-member board were appointed directly by the minister for communications, Mitch Fifield, and some were appointed after being rejected by the merit-based nominations panel, documents obtained by the Guardian show.
https://www.theguardian.com/media/2018/sep/27/abc-board-memb…
@Subada: You need a degree to be a journalist so it's not a surprise that individually the journalists are Labor supporters
LMAO…Gold!
@Subada: Journalism is in the humanities, writers are all lefties. All the woke stuff at uni is mainly in the humanities.
Engineers and scientists tend to be more rational.
so, if it is time for Albanese that makes it left leaning? Maybe it is just the truth, and you don't want to hear that?….although, to tell you the truth, I haven't even seen that headline….maybe you should actually read their articles to see what they have to say. I'm sure you won't though, as you are dead set on believing they only support Labor.
although, to tell you the truth, I haven't even seen that headline…
Click on the link above and read the Editorial
They have taken a side and that is fine so why can’t the Murdoch papers do the same?
@Grok: hahahahahahahaha you think they don't?? hahahahahahahahaha and I can't see any link to this editorial
they report on all sorts of news, and not just on Super. Lots of well known journalists and financial experts on their staff
This is the most even handed comment on this thread. Disclose what might be important, and let people make up their own mind as to how it might affect the publication's coverage.
Industry Super, by their nature, want the best for their members
Ha! Industry Super is too worried about their social justice projects to worry about their members!
Even if they are, they're still giving better returns than retail super funds. Win-win I would say
A great paper - if you want to support independent media not controlled by Murdoch and Stokes give this paper a go.
About as independent as the Climate 200 candidates.
So, independent? Do you use a different definition that we're all not familiar with?
The latter are dependent on a woke trust-fund billionaire, seeking political influence and taxpayers money for his loss-making renewable investments, while the former is dependent on an equally woke virtue-signalling multi-millionaire real-estate developer.
Really good journalism I have to say.
Thanks for the laughter
Haha.. no.
It won’t be easy under Alboeasy
Yeah, it's going to be much easier under the current corrupt government that just runs the money printer 24/7.
Albogreasy
I thought he was a bit Albocheesy when he said he'd do an hour long DJ set on Triple J during his Hack interview last night. That being said keeping it Albosleazy with DJ Albo for an hour would be Albobreezy compared to spending 5 minutes listening to Scomo.
Are you rich or are you stupid? You've got to be one of the two if you vote for the LNP or Palmer or Hanson etc.
The greatest success of the Liberal party is convincing the lower class masses that they have their interests at heart. It astounds me how anyone earning under 100k and/or doesn't own property can vote Liberal.
Spoken like a true Labor aparatchik.
@elektron: Nah not really. I'm not exactly dedicated to the ALP. They aren't perfect either. They do, however, have the interests of the lower income earners more at heart.
@Orion au: They did during the Hawke, Keating and Beasley years. These days, they represent the affluent inner-city professionals and those who want other people's money for free.
@elektron: And you think the big business Liberals have your interests at heart?
Morrison wants to block the minimum wage raising by $6 a day despite huge inflation
@elektron: And yet somehow they still seem to consider lower income earners more than the Liberal party. It's really quite incredible!
Damn shame this is a digital only arrangement. Starting to run low on litter tray lining.
Is it free?
Obviously leans left, but seems a good counterweight to right-leaning outlets.
Everyone should regularly read at least one of each - you don't realise how underinformed you are until you see what is covered by the side you don't prefer.
Just scrolling through the front page there's one article on Labor and two on Liberals. The one on Labor is neutrally worded but implies competence .(Albanese's long-term strategic planning").
The two on Liberals are clearly negative ("their policy contains little substance", "an attempt to buy votes", "new front in Coalition's war on charities").
It always makes me chuckle when people completely miss this clear bias, and rag on Murdoch or The Age/SMH at the same time.
The only informed person is the one who samples both sides - most of the bias is in omissions.
Update: I scrolled down further, and there were four more negative articles about the Coalition, and a negative cartoon, and an Editorial that is very pro-Albo.
Amazing that an outlet can clearly be AT LEAST 7 negative articles to LNP, 2 positive articles to ALP, and commenters here argue it's unbiased.
Perhaps it is just the truth?
The truth is 100-to-1 in favour of one political party, who is about equally as popular on average as the other party?
Seems extremely improbable.
@GG57: Truth doesn't correlate with your political preferences.
How can it be that the ALP, with its "small target" strategy of being 90% the same as the LNP and only differing on a few uncontroversial policies, is completely and utterly different and unlike the LNP?
Stop and think through what you're implying for a minute. The ALP can't be 90% the same as the LNP while also being 100% better or more truthful.
Maybe it's because the current government is terrible? Also, it's completely fair to be more critical of the government than the opposition, as the government is the one actually doing things.
You make some fair points. I've had a scroll though the editions and there is definitely a lean towards the left.
However, you will find that good journalism would typically be targeting the party that is currently in government (i.e. keeping them honest and always questioning them, even if you agree with their policies).
There is also a massive bias towards the right in the mainstream Australian media due to Murdoch, so some people will be reading and watching right-leaning media without realising it.
left would be supporting greens. labor is centre right (pro mining etc)
Modern Libs are actually left of centre. They brought in same sex marriage, signed up Australia to the Paris and Glasgow climate deals, are anti-nuclear etc… The only remaining right of centre paries in Australia are Liberal Demicrats, One Nation and United Australia Party.
Obvious bullshit. They held a plebiscite to decide the gay marriage issue allowing a campaign of hate speech to sweep the nation for months even though we already knew from polling that >60% of Australians supported gay marriage.
They're trying to legally protect religious discrimination against homosexuals and trans kids in schools.
They signed up to the accords only after dragging their feet as long as possible and have worked hard to ensure we won't meet any meaningful carbon reduction targets.
Nuclear power isn't a left / right issue.
If you look at their economic policies and who they actually serve (big business etc) it's clear they're right rather than centre.
I can't see how any of the liberals are modern. People like Frydenberg haven't crossed the floor in multiple terms of parliament making them anything but modern in my view.
@arcticmonkey: When exactly was the last time an Federal Treasurer crossed the floor?
Josh Frydenberg is no Peter Costello, who had conviction and always stuck to his principles, while Frydenberg is trying to outleft the left.
@elektron: Are those the same convictions and principles that saw him go all jellyback when Howard reneged on his promise to stand down as PM in favour of Costello prior to the 2007 election?
a great initiative at this time in Australia
well done !!