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[eBay Plus] AMD Ryzen 5 5600X CPU $297.97, AMD Ryzen 7 5800X CPU $455.67 Delivered @ gg.tech365 eBay

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[eBay Plus] AMD Ryzen 5 5600X CPU $297.97, AMD Ryzen 7 5800X CPU $455.67 Delivered @ gg.tech365 eBay
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Some pretty good prices on these two popular AMD Ryzen CPUs if you're looking to buy right now. In terms of gaming the difference between the two is about <5% with the 5600X being better value for performance, but the 5800X is more future proof by offering more cores/threads.

5600X offers 6 cores, 12 threads with a base clock of 3.7GHz, boost clock up to 4.6Ghz and a Wraith Stealth cooler, while the 5800X offers 8 cores, 16 threads with a base clock of 3.8GHz, boost clock up to 4.7GHz and no cooler included.

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    • netsurfer on 13/05/2022 - 17:02
      +14

      In terms of gaming, you do need to be sensible and don't get dragged into the youTube click-baits or AMD marketing hype.

      5800X3D is really mostly for reviewers, rich people, or people with rich parents.

      • teddiebear on 14/05/2022 - 00:35

        Hahahaha people with rich parents (made me crack). As the old saying used to be when gaming and someone would brag about having a tier1 gpu… "get out of Mum's basement and get a job!" Lmao

      • vid_ghost on 14/05/2022 - 08:46
        +1

        As apposed to the intel hype for the 12900ks thats twice the price or the 12900k that still cost way more?… if your a gamer with a 3080 / 6800 or faster GPU this is the best bang for buck gaming cpu vs intels way overpriced options… AMD is giving you a bargain… for anyone with slower GPUs most new CPUs are good enough

  • adam149 on 13/05/2022 - 16:57

    Whats the point of the 5600x when you can just get an i5-12400 for less and better performance?

    • Rockgod70 on 13/05/2022 - 17:00
      +31

      Because it doesn't fit in an AM4 board

      • netsurfer on 13/05/2022 - 17:06
        +2

        AM4 boards are so amazing…

        B450, X470 or below: AMD blocked PCIe gen 4 support on those boards (despite they are capable) and other than 1 PCIe x16 gen 3 slot for the GPU, the rest are PCIe gen 2. It is so great to run second m.2 at PCIe gen 2 x4 mode. m.2 NVMe SSDs are too fast so let's slow it down, shall we? Zero chance to put Thunderbolt 3 or USB 3.2 gen 2 PCIe cards on them. But, that's a plus so we don't waste money on faster enclosures right?

        B550: only one PCIe gen 4 for m.2 via the CPU. Thank AMD for not blocking that.

        X570: Who needs USB 3.2 gen 2x2 or Thunderbolt 4? PCIe gen 5 is overkill and no, we don't want 3 PCIe gen 4 NVMe SSD support. Who cares about reading reports on VRM quality, most of us don't overclock anyway.

        It's 2022. Let's not kid ourselves and think AM4 is so amazing. AMD is starting to be more Intel like. AMD, where is that BIOS micro code update you promised to fix Windows 11 issue? Is that going to be a real fix or a workaround which will still impact performance?

        • Sleepycat3 on 13/05/2022 - 17:17
          +6

          So, you are not happy with PCIe Gen 2 on x470/B450.
          You are not happy with only 1 PCIe Gen 4 on B550 but thankful it has it and the rest are Gen 3.
          You are not happy with PCIe Gen 4 NVMe on X570. Also, X570 doesn't have PCIe Gen 5.

          I don't think anything will satisfy you.

          • netsurfer on 13/05/2022 - 17:25
            -1

            @Sleepycat3: AMD shouldn't block CPU's PCIe gen 4 support on X470/B450. The PCIe gen 2 support is about being realistic. While you could keep on extending chipset's lifetime, there is a penalty. At the time they were created, PCIe gen 2 was probably enough. Evil Intel doesn't do this kind of BS, even on their cheapest chipset. Don't cripple CPU's PCIe lanes using microcode you force people to use, AMD.

            However, those B450 Max with BIOS size upgrade isn't a good idea today.

            B550 is about not releasing with Ryzen 3xxx series so it is either X570 or X470/B450. How many of you know that PCIe gen 2 limitation? So, B550 was late and AMD blocked PCIe gen 4 support on X470/B450 quite early (so if you want the CPU microcode bug fixes, you most certainly lose PCIe gen 4 on X470/B450). That feels like trying to milk customers for more money.

            X570, while it is still fine for now, just doesn't feel good for 2022. It's more about AMD really needs to release Ryzen 6xxx series. Also, realising AM4 really is getting dated. I have an AMD Ryzen PC. Honestly, there are some minor quirks with AMD chipsets and CPUs. Have we all forgotten the USB disconnect mess?

            Mess and quirks needing microcode fixes (with some fixes are actually workarounds rather than real fixes). It's fine to just have one or two, but Ryzen 5xxx series has been around for some time now and we are still waiting for BIOS microcode fix for Windows 11. At least AMD is going to offer the fix to older Ryzen CPUs, but we are at the mercy of M/B makers for older boards.

            Do you know when you are going to get the AMD AGESA Combo PI BIOS update (to fix Windows 11 performance issue) for your motherboard?

            • notmaroun on 13/05/2022 - 20:33
              +4

              @netsurfer: Your complaints don't really apply to the standard B450 buyer because:

              1. B450 released dirt cheap, and at its price range, you are almost certainly not fully saturating the PCI bandwidth. Given their price, they were at parity with Intel's boards, and it was only the B460 boards onwards from Intel that had PCI-E parity.

              2. Not all boards could electrically meet the requirements for PCI-E 4. Rather than work on a case-by-case basis, or subjecting motherboard manufacturers to needless support requests for a feature that was not advertised, AMD opted to disable it.

              3. Not everyone had the USB disconnect issue, or the Windows 11 TPM issue. In fact it was very clearly a minority that faced those issues. I've built 10+ AM4 socket PCs and not a single one has had these issues. I agree that AMD could have done a better job addressing it, but the issue isn't nearly as widespread as you're making it out to be.

              Given the murky status of directstorage, it is highly unlikely that someone would need to be running 2 Gen 4 M.2s. If someone had such esoteric storage requirements, they would be on the X570 platform in the first place. Cheap X570 boards aren't that expensive.

              I'm not saying feature segmentation is the most consumer friendly, but it's weird that you're so gung-ho on the PCI-E thing when the vast majority of B450 consumers will likely never see a capable PCIE-4 SSD in their PC.

            • teddiebear on 14/05/2022 - 00:43
              -1

              @netsurfer: Intel fan boy much?? Lmao
              Intel force people to upgrade mobo's with EVERY release! At least AMD promosed a 5-year platform…. which they followed through with!! The price of updating to a b550 board is dirt cheap compared to what intel forces you to do. Sure, there may be a limit with the earlier boards but geez dude, you're whinging about EVERYTHING!
              Go buy an xbox or ps5

        • Grumpy Braincells on 13/05/2022 - 18:12
          +1

          somehow my b550 tuf gaming doesn't like RAM speed any higher than 3066Mhz, tried everything(different ram sticks manually tune the ram OC profile bios flash) to fix it, but it just didn't work on mine

          • greatlamp on 13/05/2022 - 18:24

            @Grumpy Braincells: What CPU?

          • netsurfer on 13/05/2022 - 20:12
            -2

            @Grumpy Braincells: That's another growing pain for people switching from Intel to AMD. You are better off using Micron E die or Samsung B die (with the latter being pricey normally) if you prefer trouble free memory with AMD platform.

            • notmaroun on 13/05/2022 - 20:38

              @netsurfer: This might have been true for Zen 1 or Zen+, but running at 3000MT/s was pretty much pain free for Zen 1, and almost all kits at 3200 will hit their XMP for Zen+.

              Come Zen 2, everything pretty much smooths out till about 3400MT/s, but given that a cheaper 3200mhz kit is within margin of error performance (unless you have some ultra expensive, ultra tuned memory), if you were buying higher end kits you probably knew what you were getting into.

              Zen 3 pretty much chills with all kits at or under 3600MT/s

              Micron Rev. E, Micron Rev. B, Samsung B-Die and Hynix CJR/DJR all play nice with AMD. You are overblowing the memory problems.

            • Grumpy Braincells on 13/05/2022 - 22:27

              @netsurfer: the thing is my 3600mhz c16 19 19 19 kit works like a charm on my mate's 10th gen intel plateform, it's been bugging me for quite a while now, B die 16gX2 is just way too expensive for me, if I were to spend 600$ on a set of rams I rather change my mobo altogether go for ddr5 and switch to 12th gen intel, at this point I'm not even sure where the problem is, ram or mobo? anyway, i'm happy with my 5900x tho

          • notmaroun on 13/05/2022 - 20:35

            @Grumpy Braincells: What CPU and what RAM? If you want to get it sorted PM me because tuning/OC-ing RAM is something I do a lot.

            • fufufu on 13/05/2022 - 20:54

              @notmaroun: Been a while since I built a pc and just bought in to amd system (5600 + 3200mhz ddr4 + gigabyte b550i) would you have a link to an article or guide that tell me how to set it up? Comp and such are new to me.

              • notmaroun on 13/05/2022 - 21:43

                @fufufu: There's nothing AMD-specific. It's just the same as it's ever been.

                Shove CPU into the CPU slot, shove RAM into the RAM slots, boot up, load XMP in BIOS and go!

                Any Youtube video by the big tech channels should cover it all.

                • fufufu on 13/05/2022 - 22:07

                  @notmaroun: Thanks.

                  Comp was meant to be xmp in my reply.

                  Never tinkered with ram, last time I did something was back in core2duo days when I oced a CPU by changing the fsb and voltage.

              • vid_ghost on 14/05/2022 - 08:57

                @fufufu: Youtube how to build how to tune PC

            • Grumpy Braincells on 13/05/2022 - 22:38

              @notmaroun: hey I tried pm you but it shows that you're not accepting new messages, would you mind pm me so I could get some help from you, thanks

          • vid_ghost on 14/05/2022 - 08:55

            @Grumpy Braincells: Did you update the bios?

            • Grumpy Braincells on 14/05/2022 - 12:27

              @vid_ghost: yes, latest version, could be some bios compatibility issue with my ram, I cant go pass 3133 but I can get it stable at cl 14 15 15 15 35

        • greatlamp on 13/05/2022 - 18:23

          Zero chance to put Thunderbolt 3 or USB 3.2 gen 2 PCIe cards on them

          I assumed Intel was responsible for that

          • netsurfer on 13/05/2022 - 20:14

            @greatlamp: No Intel is NOT responsible for that. You can get PCIe x4 gen 3 Thunderbolt 3 add-on cards or USB 3.2 gen 2x2 (sorry about the typo earlier) PCIe x4 gen 3. Even if you insist on saying Intel has something to do with Thunderbolt 3, there is no excuse for USB 3.2 gen 2x2 add-on cards. The chipset is from ASMedia.

    • Clear on 13/05/2022 - 17:01
      +5

      They're pretty much identical. Ryzen will handle some games better and Intel others. I'd argue if you had an AMD motherboard and were looking to upgrade this is a good option.

    • Orion au on 13/05/2022 - 17:04
      +3

      Because the motherboards for the 12400 are more expensive? You can get a ryzen/decent mobo or an i5/budget bare bones mobo for roughly the same price. I went down the Ryzen path.

      • Grumpy Braincells on 13/05/2022 - 22:43
        +1

        the reason I didnt go with 12900k or 12700k is power consumption, I have a 1000w psu, but I'm considering the rtx40 seris gpu preferably rtx 4080, that gpu alone could proteninaly draw 600w if I go for the 12900 or the 12700 that means I might even need a new psu which will be another 400$

    • Lofty248 on 13/05/2022 - 18:58
      -1

      Upgraded my 2600x to a 5600x, makes sense if you have the existing hardware, buying new I agree with you, not much point buying into the last gen of a socket.

  • shaz0316 on 13/05/2022 - 17:33
    +1

    At this price, i think the R7 5700x for $415.00 should also be considered.

    • Clear on 13/05/2022 - 17:36

      With only 3 being available I couldn't add it to the title. If it was as cheap as this I'd probably jump on it myself.

  • NoshTwin on 13/05/2022 - 17:37
    +1

    The 5600x and 5800x make no sense to buy to begin with now that the 5600 and 5700x exist. This deal doesn't quite do enough to change that IMO.

    • starburstyellow on 13/05/2022 - 18:53

      Why is that ? Was thinking if building my wife a 5600x PC. Itx build.

      • NoshTwin on 13/05/2022 - 23:03

        5600 is within 1-3% of the performance of a 5600x in most scenarios and is cheaper even when paying full price for a 5600

    • Wonderfool on 13/05/2022 - 19:18

      The thing about the 5700x is that, once you entered this tier of cpu, you're buying it because you have a game or application in mind, or you're future proofing. In which case, 11% performance for 80 bucks in a $2500 system is a great deal. 11% can be the difference of 100 hours of work over the course of a year.

      • NoshTwin on 13/05/2022 - 23:02
        +1

        Where are you seeing that a 5800x has 11% more performance than a 5700x?

        • Wonderfool on 13/05/2022 - 23:12

          You're right, I remembered incorrectly

        • Wonderfool on 13/05/2022 - 23:15

          Oh wait, there is a 11% in blender and other productivity task.

      • vid_ghost on 14/05/2022 - 09:02

        Its been proven that if you enable PBO on the 5700x its power usage jumps up to the 5800x and its now at the same performace both CPUs tested with PBO.. there are 100% identical

  • Lz ShifTy on 13/05/2022 - 19:11

    Let's say i have a B450 Tomahawk Max can i stick this in it what are the pros/cons of it if any help pls me noob :)

    • Clear on 13/05/2022 - 19:16

      Yep that motherboard will work with the 5600X. Just make sure you update the BIOS first.

      • Lz ShifTy on 13/05/2022 - 19:34

        Any prosor cons to it? like features that will work with newer generation boards but not this one?

        • netsurfer on 13/05/2022 - 20:24

          Cons first, B450 limitations apply so:

          • No PCIe gen 4 support at all.
          • You only get 1 PCIe gen 3 x16 slot and the m.2 NVMe slot connected to the CPU is restricted to PCIe gen 3 x16 (intentionally by AMD, which makes zero sense for B450 Max motherboard).
          • ALL other slots are PCIe gen 2 slots so forget USB 3.2 gen 2x2 or Thunderbolt 3 add-on cards.
          • (This one is for that Tomahawk board only): MSI made a decision to go 1 x m.2 NVMe PCIe gen 3 x4 and 6 SATA ports. The other possibility for B450 could have been 2 m.2 NVMe slots, but most likely only 4 SATA ports (but the second slot HAS TO be PCIe gen 2 x4). You could get a PCIe gen 2 x4 NVMe card (I "think" you could get PCIe gen 3 x4 NVMe card and run at gen 2 mode) if you want another m.2 slot.

          Pros:

          • Re-use existing motherboard. Cost saving perhaps.
          • Cheaper and at that price point still having BIOS flashback.
          • Getting AGESA upgrade earlier than other B450 boards (but likely still slower than B550 and X570 boards).
          • Decent VRM.

          If you are on a tight budget, you can do it. If you intend to keep the system longer, consider at least B550. If you can resist FOMO, wait for Ryzen 6xxx series (or whatever next series is going to be called). With what we've seen from Intel 12th gen and Apple M1 Pro/Max/Ultra, AMD better come up with something special before the end of this year. 5800X3D - crazy price and stop gap CPU to regain the bragging right of having the fastest gaming CPU (albeit through L2 cache hacking).

          • Doomedgrind on 13/05/2022 - 20:35

            @netsurfer: For a home user , gaming/browsing, what’s the benefit of pcie gen4? Provided that user will never buy a 6500xt graphics card..

            • netsurfer on 13/05/2022 - 20:42

              @Doomedgrind: It's mostly NVMe SSDs. I guess you could still get PCIe gen 4 NVMe SSDs and run them at PCIe gen 3 mode (but that's kinda waste of money). It's also the knowledge that it is possible with B450 (motherboard makers enabled that initially, but AMD blocked it with BIOS upgrade. Ryzen 3xxx series CPUs have some bugs so you need newer BIOS version, and 5xxx series CPU has no chance since AMD blocked it since 3xxx series already).

              For B450, the PCIe gen 2 only support from the chipset is annoying. It also explains why the second m.2 NVMe slot, if provided, is PCIe gen 2 only. Basically, it feels like you really only have 1 storage slot that's decent in today's standard. However, if you want to be pragmatic about it and feel that you just want a cost effective desktop, it is fine. Most of us cannot really take advantage of PCIe gen 4 x2 NVMe SSDs (and no, running benchmark software to keep you happy doesn't count).

        • netsurfer on 13/05/2022 - 20:57

          Correcting a typo:

          the m.2 NVMe slot connected to the CPU is restricted to PCIe gen 3 x16 (intentionally by AMD, which makes zero sense for B450 Max motherboard)

          should be PCIe gen 3 x4 for the m.2 slot connected to CPU. It makes zero sense for B450 Max because the board is released after Ryzen 3xxx series so AMD's dodgy excuse doesn't apply.

          • Doomedgrind on 13/05/2022 - 21:17

            @netsurfer: Thanks a lot! Don't have any use for NVME ssd's for current games they run fine on SATA SSD so sounds like ill be good without the gen 4

      • netsurfer on 13/05/2022 - 20:33

        Just make sure you update the BIOS first.

        You don't need to with that motherboard as it has BIOS flashback (the ability to upgrade BIOS or re-flash BIOS without a CPU or with a CPU that requires BIOS upgrade to work).

        • Lz ShifTy on 14/05/2022 - 00:59

          so BIOS flash to make 5xxx series work

  • dhleoz on 13/05/2022 - 21:23

    Got the 6600xt single fan on the other deal. If im getting 5600x, what motherboard would be best in your opinions?

    • n1x on 13/05/2022 - 21:58
      +1

      depending on form factor and stock availability you might not have many choices anyway, you need am4 and pcei4 support, I would personally go with x570 that doesn't use a chipset fan, as far as I know in itx form factor only Gigabyte has a motherboard that ticks all the boxes

    • Wonderfool on 14/05/2022 - 10:56
      +1

      I would spend the extra 200 and get an itx board. Something like this https://www.mwave.com.au/product/asrock-b550mitxac-am4-minii…

      Then throw it into the smallest case possible, like the sgpc k40 or k55.

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