Similar performance to the Gigabyte 6700 XT for $799 but comes with a $20 Steam gift card via redemption
ASUS TUF Radeon RX 6700 XT OC Edition 12GB Graphics Card (Bonus $20 Steam Gift Card via Redemption) $799 Delivered @ BPC Tech
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8 months ago, XFX Merc $970
I actually bought that exact card for $973 almost a year ago. Gotta say it's an amazing card. The build quality is impeccable.
I sold it two weeks ago when i read about the price drops.
Waiting on that sub $1k 3080 or 7700xt, whichever comes first lol
@nuker: I don't know how much time i spent looking for ways to turn that light off, since i went with a no-RGB black & white theme.
That damn card was so long i had to switch my front aio from push to pull, so that i get an extra 5mm clearance to get the card in.
I think I bought mine from PCCG down in Melbourne for $1100, but it's mined about $500 worth of ETH.
Regardless I don't think it was a good deal for me to buy it haha.
Sames, and flogged my tired rx580 for $480… so similar changeover
Just imagine what will it be in another 6 months time!
Will it drop further or do we need a bigger chip shortage for that to happen?Probably half the price. The 7700xt is rumoured to have 6900xt performance while using 100w less power, and that comes out in half a year.
So basically a 6700 XT with 40-50% more performance. It would be a decent generational jump provided it's priced right (< USD$500 MSRP).
@Yuri Lowell: It would be my first choice for the next generation if all that lines up. Ray tracing on the 7700xt is also expected to be better than the 6900xt.
The generational leap in performance is massive.
Price drop faster please 🙄
Don't be greedy, I'm surprised it's actually dropped this far…. is it legal to murder scalpers yet?
$800 is a lot for a 6700XT. $537 is the current msrp for 3060ti and even at the current $700 they're still a better deal than 6700xt for $800
Faster at 1080p, same at 1440p and slower at 4k. Probably the better deal as it has 12gb to the 3060tis 8. That said, this is still over $100 above msrp.
It has the 1080p advantage due to CPU shenanigans (AMD GPUs automatically and silently overclocking CPUs by changing BIOS settings without communicating with the rest of the system), but the strength of GPUs is best measured at 4k, where other system bottlenecks and overclocks are mostly irrelevant. And then of course, DLSS gives Nvidia a huge performance increase, but that isn't counted for in rasterisation benchmarks.
Either way, 3060 Tis were around $660 with Ebay giftcards in the last APT sale. To buy this a few weeks later for ~21% more in an era of falling prices would be really dumb.
Let's say Adrenalin drivers actually enabled Precision Boost Overdrive on AMD CPUs, but the same tests were done with a 3060 Ti on an AMD CPU with just Precision Boost enabled (which is the default). Would it make a difference? No, because PBO/AutoOC makes no real difference compared to default PB. This is disregarding many benchmarks which were done on Intel platforms to begin with.
4K tests have very little relevance for a budget-midrange card like a 6700XT or 3060 Ti when a) they struggle at 4K b) 1080p is still the most common resolution, especially with lower budget gamers c) above all, no-one buys GPUs simply because they benchmark better at a resolution they don't use.
There's certainly benefits to a 3060 Ti, like more mature DLSS & RT, NVIDIA Broadcast, NVENC Encoder & the CUDA advantage where many professional applications are better optimised for NVIDIA GPUs since AMD GPUs were not that competitive at the top end for years now.
That being said, the Afterpay sale was as you said it, a few weeks ago and is pricing you can no longer obtain. If you wanted to build a PC now, you are not going to wait until the next big sale like Black Friday or next year's Afterpay sale. And not everyone wants to use BNPL services, even if Afterpay doesn't do credit checks, Afterpay payments definitely show up on your bank statements.
The real price difference right now is more like $50 more than a triple fan 3060 Ti, and if you're keen to do 4K gaming based on your focus on benchmarking performance at 4K, the 12GB of VRAM on a 6700XT seems pretty attractive.
@brosk1s: That's an old and outdated guide - and not at all how you use PBO. They're increasing the voltage with PBO, which if anything, would hurt FPS. You're meant to drop the voltage to allow for higher clocks across multiple cores at a given wattage, so that more cores can clock higher without being thermal throttled.
The gains are 0-10%, it depends how core heavy the game is. If it's running on a single core it won't matter much (not using that much power so thermals matter less), but if it's using 4+ cores there are big potential gains.
I don't know why, but AMD CPUs are very power hungry out of the box, which ironically hurt their performance. It seems they're aware of this issue and using Radeon GPUs with a Radeon CPU fixes the problem automatically.That being said, the Afterpay sale was as you said it, a few weeks ago and is pricing you can no longer obtain
You can no longer obtain it currently, but crypto is ending soon, AMD is doing a refresh, new Intel GPUs are out soon and Lovelace is out in September to make all other GPUs obsolete. In a market of falling prices you shouldn't be exercising FOMO to lock in a higher price for yourself and regret it later.
Is 2% extra performance worth losing 4GB of VRAM? Also at 4K you're cutting a fine line with 8GB.
What's the point of extra VRAM with less bandwidth if it negatively affects performance though? If 12GB of slower memory was needed, the 3070 and 3060 Ti should lose to the 6700XT as the resolution increases, but the 6700XT scales poorly with larger resolutions and higher VRAM usage. And that's without tweaking texture settings, which use most of the VRAM without noticeably impacting visuals or performance.
What you probably didn't realise is that even though the 6700XT has more VRAM, it's using a tiny 192 bit bus, so the memory bandwidth is only 384 GB/s. Whereas the 3060 Ti and 3070 are on a 256 bit bus, so the memory bandwidth is much faster at 448 GB/s.Also, DLSS —> More VRAM that's slower and doesn't even get used. Playing devil's advocate, the 3060 Ti/3070 could only have 4gb of VRAM, but use DLSS at 4k to render at 1080p and absolutely smoke the 6700XT.
Also at 4K you're cutting a fine line with 8GB.
Nope. Even at 4k, most games without ultra ultra ultra texture packs are using <6 GB. People get confused between usage and utilisation (games will generally load as many textures as they're allowed into the VRAM, even though they're using a fraction of that). And the 3060 Ti/3070 are better are loading new textures as their bandwidth is faster, which is really what matters.
It's similar to how people think more cores = better CPU, and completely ignore IPC speeds. No, that 2700x is not faster than a 5600x because the later only has 6 cores and games can use up to 8.
Would love to see a deal on the Asus RX 6800
-edit- still listed on BPC @ $1549, what even. Surely it shouldn't be more than $1000
I think that would be hard to come by. AMD will stop selling them. 6750XT would be the replacement. Its bad, I know.
You're probably spot on. Even the Powercolor or similar would be fine though as an upgrade, anything but Gigabyte really, this price drop is so uneven around retailers.
"Don't pay $1799!" Exclaims the site. Ugh.
It would be low stock/discontinued product. The 6900XT, 6800XT and 6800 are all the same GPU, so there's no reason to disable part of the GPU die to put into a lower tiered product when the stock of higher tiered models is selling fast.
That is a bit of a shame. Retailers appear to still be selling it at nearly double the price of this, unfortunately.
For those interested in how this lines up to other cards around, these numbers are from the latest Hardware Unboxed 12 game average benchmarks for 2022 (https://youtu.be/oBDFtJ4lR2c?t=463). It doesn't take into consideration Ray Tracing, DLSS, etc
Avg FPS (1440p) % of 3090 Ti —— Avg FPS (4k) % of 3090 Ti Nvidia RTX 3090 Ti 171 100% 108 100% Nvidia RTX 3090 163 95% 98 91% Radeon RX 6900 XT 160 94% 90 83% Nvidia RTX 3080 Ti 158 92% 95 88% Nvidia RTX 3080 12GB 153 89% 91 84% Radeon RX 6800 XT 147 86% 83 77% Nvidia RTX 3080 10GB 146 85% 86 80% Radeon RX 6800 131 77% 74 69% Nvidia RTX 3070 Ti 124 73% 70 65% Nvidia RTX 3070 116 68% 64 59% Radeon RX 6700 XT 109 63% 57 53% Nvidia RTX 3060 Ti 104 61% 57 53% If enough people find this helpful, I will starting adding some additional columns to the table to break it down to $ per frame and a comparison to recent bargains posted to show the value of the GPU.
It does take into consideration some ray-tracing where it skews the results a bit (F1 and Metro).
Hey Yuri, I tried to find evidence of this and can't seem to see it. If you look at the Cyberpunk benchmarks for example the Native Res without any DLSS or RT is used in the game overview page, and I'm fairly sure they disable any other features which would skew the results either way. HUB are very mindful of this to give us a pure rasterization performance even playing ground. Happy to be proven wrong though.
Sorry, you're right. I was thinking of the 6700 XT vs 3060 Ti video HUB did the other day where they included Metro Exodus and the new F1 game where RT is the preset. The video you linked and the table doesn't include those games.
There is one here with older cards as well - https://cdn.mos.cms.futurecdn.net/4k8wpFVdo5pwGDJ9iZ4PrF.png
cool image, but 1080p though? would be a lot of CPU bottlenecking taking place there I reckon so not sure how relevant that is, but i guess we weren't benchmarking at 4k with the GTX970 :-)
Updated table with reference to other recent bargains etc. I'll try to post this on any upcoming GPU bargain for reference.
These numbers are from the latest Hardware Unboxed 12 game average benchmarks for 2022 (https://youtu.be/oBDFtJ4lR2c?t=463). It doesn't take into consideration Ray Tracing, DLSS, etcAvg FPS (1440p) % of 3090 Ti —— Avg FPS (4k) % of 3090 Ti —— Avg FPS (3k) —Recent Bargain— $ per frame (3k) Nvidia RTX 3090 Ti 171 100% 108 100% 139.5 LOL Nvidia RTX 3090 163 95% 98 91% 130.5 $3,069 $23.52 Radeon RX 6900 XT 160 94% 90 83% 125 $1,849 $14.79 Nvidia RTX 3080 Ti 158 92% 95 88% 126.5 $1,800 $14.23 Nvidia RTX 3080 12GB 153 89% 91 84% 122 $1,250 $10.25 Radeon RX 6800 XT 147 86% 83 77% 115 $1,317 $11.45 Nvidia RTX 3080 10GB 146 85% 86 80% 116 $1,200 $10.34 Radeon RX 6800 131 77% 74 69% 102.5 $1,299 $12.67 Nvidia RTX 3070 Ti 124 73% 70 65% 97 $932 $9.61 Nvidia RTX 3070 116 68% 64 59% 90 $857 $9.52 Radeon RX 6700 XT 109 63% 57 53% 83 $800 $9.64 Nvidia RTX 3060 Ti 104 61% 57 53% 80.5 $704 $8.75 
Super useful. Thanks.
Wouldn't mind having the (rough) RRP/MSRP for each card there as well! It's hard to tell how much cards are marked up at the moment with all the price drops!
bought at $950
Oh well
Bought a second hand one for 900 off a friend. He used for 3 months to play dota lol.. oh well
Good price, underrated card and runs cool with triple
The cooler designs on the 6700 XT are massively overkill but honestly I find it a good thing. My Red Devil barely goes over 60C and you can run zero rpm with an undervolt.
I see the Sapphire Nitro + version available for $30 more on the same site. Does anybody think the price difference is justified to get this one instead?
https://www.bpctech.com.au/catalog/product/view/id/38436/?gc…
Nup. if you want one, get this one and enjoy the $20 steam voucher too.
Thanks mate
The TUF is a very good AIB. I wouldn't pay more although the Nitro is great too.
This TUF is okay, but ASUS have made some shocking AMD cards in the past (the heatsinks on the 5700/5700XT fell away from the rest of the card).
Personal preference. Both were some of the best 6700xt.
I preferred Sapphire and will pretty much only buy Sapphire AMD cards due to my good experiences. Hardware Unboxed did a tear down of the Nitro and gave it three thumbs up but you won't be disappointed with either
Similar performance to 3060ti as well but without DLSS. AMD are kidding themselves at that price
DLSS is Nvidia proprietary, so AMD can't really do much about that. AMD has an open standard with FSR and it costs developers really nothing to implement. With FSR 2.0 now available, image quality has significantly improved over the previous iteration, and is GPU agnostic. There are lots of games supporting both methods, as well as Intel's XeSS. So it only matters if you really want to play a game that is DLSS exclusive. This is already starting to diminish and will increase over time due to AMD and Intel methods being easy to implement in games.
There are plenty of comparisons between DLSS 2.3 and FSR 2.0 like the one below:
Can't be bother to post separately but this Colourful 3070 seems like decent value…
https://www.bpctech.com.au/product/igame-geforce-rtx-3070-ul…Very close $ per frame, $9.64 for the 6700XT vs $9.77 for the 3070 based on my table above. Both good value compared to the higher end GPU's if you are happy with the performance.
I've had both, theyre both good but at 1440p, being able to use DLSS is pretty handy.
Do you think 3070 ti for $100 more is worth it?
Probably but depends what you're playing. You can always spend more money but at some point you become limited by another component IMO.
I wait for EOFY sale. Yeah.
Wait for Lovelace.
12 gigabytes … My eyes are watering. I wonder how many kb of graphics RAM my first console, a much-loved Atari 2600, had by comparison. Guess I could just Google that eh.
Oohh - not even Kilobytes. 128 BYTES of RAM. And a 1.19 Megahertz CPU. Times may have changed slightly since the 80s…
Imagine if you bought one of these 6 months ago for $1,200! Hahahaha… ha… ha… oh