Good deal. This UPS price range is in between $199-220 when it's on-sale.
The following sellers are the same price atm, enjoy :)
smarthomestoreau https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/124099709321
futu online https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/333506228478
I think you cannot, if there is a power outage in your location. There is beeep beeep beep - an Audible Noise at 1.0M from Surface of Unit 50 dBA.
Beep can be disabled on these, I have this exact model and did so.
When it engages there is a loud click and a strong buzzing noise which is more than enough to indicate it's going.
I…. I did not know this…. The last time the power went out the beeping drove me insane…. thank you!
@lawyerz: I know your pain. My safety switch actually tripped early this morning so my 2 UPS were making a racket until I muted them.
Yes, it is a quiet machine and sleep-able.
I picked up one of these about a year ago and have been using it with the bedroom with my WFH setup.
As mentioned above, the only time it might not be quiet is when you have a power outage and it triggers the UPS alarm. (PS - you can disable this UPS alarm)
mine one is loud with "buzzzz buzzzz buzzz" sound in contract with APC (slightly quieter), when it's running on battery, even turning off the alarm "beep beep beep". :D
Agreed, when there's a power outage and it is running on battery, I can also hear the "buzzzz" and still sleep-able. Unless if you're in a tiny room and literally need to sleep next to it.
I can hear a constant high-pitch noise when it's on, and it gets louder as it's been subjected to higher usage. This renders it unusable for me in nearly everywhere except for workshops.
50dBA max according to the spec sheet.
Would this be overkill for a NAS that pulls 200W max load?
Wondering the same. Just want to run my Synology 920. HFC NBN modem and Google Wifi puck.
For my main WFH area with a couple of monitors and a PC, I've got one of these 1600VA 960W - approx. 40 mins runtime.
For the other area with a Synology 220+, HFC, and UDM on a 700VA 390W - approx. 40 mins runtime.
PS - you should be able to connect the UPS to your Synology and it will appear in the Control Panel> Hardware & Power> UPS to safely shutdown your Synology.
Thanks for the feedback
No, your nas will just have a longer run time to shut down nicely.
no its decent for that, much smaller and it will have stupid short run time (even this wont be long)
according to the chart, it lasts for 43 mins (200w), but I think it is for new battery.
https://www.cyberpower.com/au/en/product/sku/vp1600elcd#runt…
After seeing this deal I did some digging and ended up buying this one from amazon: https://www.amazon.com.au/CyberPower-VP700ELCD-Value-700VA-3…
All I want it to do is shut down my DS920+ safely when I lose power. Almost half the price of the one in this deal and will do the same job.
a few $ cheaper. but eofy sale maybe another few $ cheaper…
shopping-express-clearance https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/264637470524
futu_online https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/233486767419
Amazon vs eBay I’ll take Amazon every day of the year even for a few extra bucks.
highly recommended with a NAS so that your power is "Clean" when it goes to the NAS and when you have a power outage, the NAS will shutdown gracefully.
Would this do the job of keeping my water pump running whilst having a power outage at my regional property?
I would keep it under the house next to the pump so would need some sort of protection/cover for it as well.
Would have to know the power draw of the pump.
1000w but I assume that would be when the pump is at maximum power which I don't think would ever happen.
I'd chuck a power meter on there and have a look, see if you can force it to go to max power.
This is a 960w UPS, so no you can't use it to run a 1000w pump.
At full load you'll only get a couple of minutes runtime - if you want to run a 1000w load for an hour then you'll need a MUCH MUCH bigger UPS.
Something like https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/324927697598 @ 10KVA might do the trick, but you'll need to do some research about using a resistive load (your pump's motor) on a UPS, this isn't something they're designed for.
No unfortunately. I'm in a similar situation being on a regional property with a water tank but the initial power surge is too much.
I also read somewhere that it must not be used on this type of equipment as it may damage the UPS. Can't remember where I read that though.
We use a petrol generator for that purpose if needed.
It's a stepped sine wave inverter, which many electrical motors do not like.
Look for a "pure sine wave" model if you want to run electrical motors.
it's a wrong application with UPS, you can easy to get an multi LiFePO4/LiFeMnPO4 Batteries + PM system for your water bump. :)
Might be better in the long run to get a transfer switch installed and buy a small gennie. I usd a UPS for my fish tank pumps because I'm now in a unit, I wouldn't recommend it if avoidable.
Reading the comments of previous deals for this model, would it be best to spend an extra $74 / $135 to get a pure sine wave model?
I have the 1300va model and it's certainly pretty quiet whilst running on battery.
If sound isn't an issue and the hardware you're connecting to it doesn't need a proper sine wave then I'd personally go with this.
Pure Sine is always better but those prices are pretty bad even after the discount.
Hey, I'm looking at some recommendations for a good pure sine wave, but what would you recommend in terms of brand and the right price spot for a good one?
Thanks!
When I looked around, Cyberpower's line was the cheapest for pure sine wave options.
The comment right above, about price, was just with reference to the two ebay listings.
@RNDM: Thanks, but in terms of reliability vs. price, though, any recommendations of something that's decent and not overpriced?
I always lean towards getting something that's of good quality from the get-go rather than having to deal with replacing it later on due to failures etc for all my purchases.
Thanks again!
@DigSpider: Buy a used APC Smart UPS - plenty on eBay all the time, and they're wayyyy cheaper used than new.
What sort of wattage do you need ? The Smart UPS 1500 is an excellent unit - https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/353882904364
Yeah like RNDM said, those two are good choices but you can get them significantly cheaper a lot of the time.
@DigSpider: I bought one of these late last year https://www.cyberpower.com/au/en/product/sku/cp1300epfclcda to replace an old APC I decided to retire rather than replace the battery - currently (pun intended) $279 at Amazon. Pure sine, 1300VA, quiet, seems to work fine. There's a 1500VA version as well https://www.cyberpower.com/au/en/product/sku/cp1500epfclcda), but it was significantly more and I didn't really need the extra power.
@PlasticSpaceman: Thank you very much for the detailed answer, mate! I'll grab one of these, myself.
Thanks again.
CyberPower PFC range is really good. I have used a few of these and cannot complain.
Cheers ;)
Apart from some finely tuned PC PSU, went do you need a pure sine way?
Domestic electronics like NAS, Laptop, Router, etc won't care as they rectify & step down the voltage.
I’ve seen recent PC PSUs reset on a stepped wave. No problem with pure sine wave.
I bought this exact model last year. I ended up upgrading after a month or two to a pure sine wave one. Some people say that simulated sine wave is fine for anything other than AC motors but this isn't true. I had mine running a server rack (no it wasn't overloaded, the rack draws 400-500W) and there were issues with some of the power supplies in the equipment not working properly on the simulated sine wave. After going pure sine wave it worked perfectly.
would this power a PC with 750w psu, a laptop, and 2 monitors?
if it is a full loaded 750w desktop, this setup will give you a chance to save your works and shutdown, then take a break for the day.
It would give you possibly 5 minutes to shut everything down safely.
Luckily your laptop comes with a built in UPS, so I wouldn't worry about plugging that one into the UPS…
What is this and do I need one? Lol
You don't, if you trust your electrical company. :)
Well I definitely don't but it's not cheap either. Did have a black out for a few hours recently.
It allows connected devices, normally desktop computers, to be shutdown safely in the event of a power failure.
They are not intended for continuous use of a machine however that can be done given the computer is very low power.
I see, thanks for your explanation. So just save work and shut down basically? Is it quite bad for equipment when power just cuts out in an outage?
Is it quite bad for equipment when power just cuts out in an outage?
It depends.
If you were in the middle of working on a document and you had a power outage in the middle of saving or while making changes, you could potentially end up with a corrupted file. Any software that uses a database tends to also be prone to corruption. Certain file systems and disk formats don't recover well from sudden outages. Any computer using any form of RAID should definitely be using a UPS to allow for graceful shutdowns.
if your not in business or care about your data corrupting during an outage then yeah sure you don't need a UPS.
It will just be for home use. Mmm data can get corrupted from outage? I haven't been in the middle of work at home for a while during an outage
I use it to power my Arlo security cameras hub, and router to ensure even in an power outage, at least for 1 hour or so, I still get notifications for any alarms triggered on my security camera. This is me covering the bases in case someone thinks they can cut off the main power to my house (main fuse box is outside and accessible by anyone) to cut off the home security cameras.
I use mine to keep my FTTC NCD and router up. It lasts about 90 minutes and is good to keep me working on my laptop if the power goes out briefly (which isn’t uncommon where I am).
It’s also good because the FTTC DPUs in the street take a good 15 min to boot back up, so I save me and my neighbours that wait time if the power goes out briefly.
The cheaper CyberPower UPS units have failed test&tag at my workplace previously — incorrect (dangerous) earthing.
Also, if you care about human life … you might have RCD protection on your circuits at home/office. Plug in a UPS and you don't have RCD protection downstream. You can get electrocuted by the UPS itself. So if you want a UPS - decide whether you are protecting the equipment only, or the equipment + the humans!
If you want RCD protection downstream from the UPS then there's nothing stopping you using a standalone unit https://www.bunnings.com.au/arlec-1-8m-heavy-duty-extension-… on the outlets.
That one won't fit of course - you'd need an IEC C14 to plug into the UPS output side. That's a rare beast, so end up needing adaptor after adaptor.
UPS units clearly have a place but they have a number of downsides (death being just one!). Choose wisely.
This particular brand has extra faults - of failing Australian standard testing when carried out properly.
What ? The UPS in this deal has AU plug sockets on the back…
In any case, even for C14 output UPS like the APC units, you just use https://cplonline.com.au/alogic-15cm-power-cable-iec-c14-mal… to convert to AU plugs at a grand cost of $3.80…
So this unit can be dangerous?
All UPS equipment can be deadly if used in an unsafe manner. The manner people normally use a UPS is unsafe.
How do we use this in a safe manner?
How long could this power a home 4G modem and router for, do you reckon?
Likely at least an hour, but it depends on how much power your devices consume. Have a look at the runtime chart - https://www.cyberpower.com/au/en/product/sku/vp1600elcd#runt…
A similar unit lasts about 25 mins on mine.
Given a typical modem is like 24w at max, I would imagine hours. Hours and hours.
My current office setup consists of the following (two people, running the below atm):
- 1x desktop PC (Ryzen 5950x + RTX480 - my development box)
- 4x Dell monitors (27 inch IPS)
- 1x Macbook Pro 16"
- 1x Lenovo Thinkpad laptop
- 1x Macbook Pro M1
(few other things plugged in but not constantly used - e.g. printer, another laptop charging, etc)
Total power draw is 320-360W (monitored via TP-Link Kasa smart plug)
I think most of you should be fine with the this UPS :-)
You mean an AMD RX480 GPU?
How long does it keep running on battery?
Eg. would you be able to finish a halo match?
run similar beefy-ish computers at my office, and have a UPS on each computer, most of my PCs for example run the following
old pc dual Xeons cpu + Quadro GPU uses - 150-185 w in normal load conditions lasts about 45 min on this back up
staff pc running a ryzen 3600x + 2060 super, uses about 70-90watts in low use , 150 high use, fluctuates a bit, back up power fluctuates between 45 min to 150 min
5950x with a 3080 ti, around 40 min (im guessing uses between 150-200 watts)
9700k with a 3070, about 45 min similar stats to the 5950x in terms of power draw
im guessing with a 320 watt power draw you get half of what I said about 20-25 min
Cheers OP finally pulled trigger on something for the UDM, NAS, switch, raspberry pi's etc
How often do you need to change the battery? Is this something you buy and forget about for 10 years?
These lead acid batteries are rated for 3-5 years generally.
I have this exactly same model and I need to (actually just replaced) the battery after nearly 2 years. 3 discharges happened in the history. Yes i did not service the battery frequently.
Yes i did not service the battery frequently.
How do you do that?
There is a battery reset from the cyberpower software and it was suggested to do that like monthly or quarterly. Basically what happened to me is the machine still think the battery could hold the charge while once the power is cut the battery immediately flats…
@BuyOrNot: yeah i had the same thought until there was a storm and my ups immediately dead after power cut… (facepalm)
5-6 years is normal for decent batteries - I've had good results with these https://www.altronics.com.au/power-supplies/battery-batterie… - and terrible results with random cheap eBay batteries.
In The Specs It says, Battery User-replaceable: No
https://www.cyberpower.com/au/en/product/sku/vp1600elcd#spec…
Is this a disposable unit after batteries die?
With some effort you can replace the batteries. They're likely two 9ah 12v batteries in series for 24v.
My PFC 1300va normally comes with a battery pack however I just made my own leads for hooking two standalone batteries in series and shoved them in the slot.
Keep in mind that although it has 4 outlets, only 3 are backed up by the battery. The other one is only with surge protect.
I just ordered the 700 one, does anyone know if the fan kicks in, if the load is low?
I'm probably going to put less than half that on it.
Not familiar with the Cyberpower units, but my APC units are silent unless they are charging or discharging - there's no sound basically unless you're having a power outage…
Thanks, hope so - it's nice and small. Only needs to run a tiny 35w PC, modem, wireless AP and a switch - most of those are like 20w devices and a 65w PC
I don't get how they can say this is 960W, it would have something like a 7AH battery, no way it would reasonable to pull 100+ amps out of that battery. Even at half load the battery only lasts 11 minutes, running a battery down in 11 minutes is really bad for the battery, let alone doing it in 5 minutes.
That's not how UPS ratings work - 960W is the maximum possible load - you wouldn't ever actually try to use a UPS anywhere close to it's rated capacity, as the run time becomes too short to safely shutdown. And as the batteries age, the runtime drops even more.
If you've got 960W of gear, this isn't the UPS for you - look for a 1500VA model at least.
So you're saying they are making the rating up and the rating is something lower. So we agree there. I have a 1000W UPS which is a much bigger unit that you can run at 1000W, so not all UPSs are rated the same. Even at half the load it's still way too much load on that little battery, even a quarter is questionable.
Actually mine is 1000VA with max 600W. This little one here is supposedly 1600VA with 1000W.
I looked up the battery specs for this UPS, they have 2x9AH 12V batteries which actually isn't too bad. I still stand by statement that they have exaggerated their ratings though. My APC has 24Ah of batteries and is rated at 600W, so rating theirs at 480W would seem reasonable.
I would add this is a pretty decent deal, I'm not trying to say it's bad, just that they've overrated it. If you keep the load at a more reasonable level I think it would work quite well.
The rating isn't made up - you probably can power 960W of gear with this UPS - but the runtime would be so short as to be useless.
Generally you should oversize by at least 50% - look for at least a 1500W unit if you have 1000W of gear 👍
Just spotted a typo above, my other post should read "If you've got 960W of gear, this isn't the UPS for you - look for a 1500W model at least" - something like a 2200VA model.
How loud is this? Can you leave it running in a bedroom and still be able to sleep?
EDIT: Found it in the spec's 50dB, which is apparently the same as:
A quiet conversation
A quiet office or home
A quiet residential street
A quiet refrigerator
Moderate rainfall
Not sure if that's a sleep-able environment for a lighter sleeper though.