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Are you sure? AFAIK they're legal in WA, NT, TAS and SA.
Are they? I read people saying you can't use them anywhere else other in your property in some posts here so I thought they were illegal. I stand corrected then.
People from VIC and NSW say that. I live in TAS and they're legal on the footpath, shared paths and roads. For VIC at least the Neuron rental scooters have been made legal.
For VIC at least the Neuron rental scooters have been made legal.
No they haven't.
They can only be used in 3 municipalities + Ballarat, and not on footpaths and limited to 20km/hr
Also, it is Lime & Neuron only. Private e-scooters are still illegal
For VIC at least the Neuron and Lime rental scooters have been made legal in some areas for a trial.
FTFY.
@jv: This is incorrect. Private scooters are legal in Victoria as long as they aren't travelling more than 10kph and aren't travelling on public roads. Either way it's similar to Uber. That was deemed illegal when it arrived but that's because the law was lagging behind innovation. UBER paid fines and the law was soon changed and now they are the staple of ride sharing services. E-Scooters are the same. The law is a little behind but soon it will catch up. In Victoria, e-scooters are everywhere, being ridden illegally at high speeds and on roads. Police do nothing because they know there is no point. It's not societies fault that lawmakers are slow.
@Ilikecars: Vicroads website states private scooters with power output greater than 200W or capable of more than 10kph can't legally be ridden in Vic other than private property. IMO these things will eventually either be banned or require a license to operate on roads.
@bongom: So why are people allowed to ride e-bikes without issue? Why are people allowed to ride bicycles?
as long as they aren't travelling more than 10kph and aren't travelling on public roads.
also maximum power output of 200 watts or less and must wear a helmet.
UBER paid fines and the law was soon changed and now they are the staple of ride sharing services.
and the government stole back the licences of the taxi drivers without adequate compensation and uber are now ripping off customers with their surge prices… great job by Dan… I wonder if he got kick backs from the deal?
@jv: Who cares lol, it's called disruptive innovation. Adapt to the times or get left behind. Simple. Don't like UBER, go back to Taxi's or use one of the many competitors to UBER like DiDi. Great job by Dan? Are you implying UBER should've been banned? Ok Boomer.
Who cares lol
The thousands of licence holders that lost their life savings and superannuation. Quite a few suicides as a direct result of Dan's actions.
But hey, Dan doesn't care… Hundreds of Victorians died in the last couple of years because of his quarantine stuff ups. As long as he and his cronies stay in power and misuse public funds, he's happy and that's all that matters…
@jv: The tech lobby are amongst the largest in the country and have it doing damn fool things such giving every child a laptop and beneficial things such as fighting the intelligence agencies constant battle against encryption.
@jv: Here you are again, every scooter post, you make the exact same comments and you keep getting negged, I don't get why you bother.
According to your OzB profile, you have literally made a comment every hour for the past 24 hours, except for when you went to sleep (or powered down) for a few hours. Your whole life seems to be OzBargain, don't you go to work, oustside or visit people?? You've made over 90,000 comments since 2009!!! That's insane. Since midnight you've made 30 comments. Are you a real person or a bot??!!every scooter post, you make the exact same comments
That is an outright lie…
You can hire them in the cities and beaches in several states…don't believe the bs and no they aren't a menace like the media love to hype up just like they did with skateboards back in the day
They definitely aren't legal in SA, only the rental ones (Neuron, etc) are legal under a long term trial.
How many deaths have you had in SA?
In Vic, we had one a few weeks back.
@jv: Your point?
It's sad that people die, but it happens in any mode of transport.
In SA this year there have been 15 road deaths already, and 99 last year. https://www.police.sa.gov.au/about-us/traffic-statisticsOne scooter death in Vic compared to 236 road deaths in 2021 according to this ABC article.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-01-01/increased-death-toll-…Should there be some sort of licencing scheme / minimum requirements for riding electric scooters? Sure, but they should be legal. I also think speed limiting them to 20k's is fine. That's plenty fast enough compared to walking.
One scooter death in Vic compared to 236 road deaths in 2021
To compare, how many e-scooter trips vs car trips during the same period?
This will give us the probability of death per trip for either type of vehicle.
Sure, but they should be legal.
Only if there are rules and regulation to ensure their safety.
At the moment, there are none, and they are illegal under current road laws.
@jv: People die everyday in car accidents and on bicycles…let's ban them too..LMFAO don't be a Karen
Ah ok I wasn't sure about SA. I know for certain QLD and TAS are road legal.
@roller: In QLD only main roads, bike lanes (on the road) or streets in the Brisbane CBD are off limits. e-scooters are permitted on foopaths, bike paths and dedicated bikeways (not on the road), green streets and local streets where the speed limit is less than 50 km/hr and there is no dividing line. The Qld Premier also announced last month that the max speed limit on footpaths will be dropped to 12 km/hr and they are further investigating the possibility of opening up bike lanes on roads.
Can concur. Worthless in SA. Ended up selling mine.
OzBargain eScooter Bingo. Always bound to get someone who thinks everyone lives in NSW/VIC where they're banned.
Lmao this is legendary. I think I’ve you’ve already won. Thank you
Legend
is this better than the g30 max?
Max is better because of the 65km range.
thanks mate :)
these have always been illegal, been so for years, hasnt stopped anyone from buying them.. now that petrol is getting to $2 per litres, its even better value. the cat is out of the bag, too late, too many out there to be fully banned, eventually they will be like riding bikes without helmet. years ago you used to get fined $150, now no cops cares unless you are doing something dodgy and they want to ping you for something.
Exactly. Sure, weed might be illegal in most states too, doesn't mean anyone cares enough to hide it's use. Same as these. Nobody cares. I'm not paying $2 a litre for fuel, (profanity) that.
But is it worth the risk? In NSW at least, if you get a disgruntled cop one day you can get $2500 worth of fines for riding one of these. I wouldnt recommend it, especially given how corrupt the police are with giving out fines.
Source: https://9now.nine.com.au/a-current-affair/sydney-man-fined-t…
No fines here.
Lucky. Don't understand why certain states insist on banning these, while allowing things just as dangerous
@jv: My understanding in NSW is that it's not so much as they're banned, but the legislation makes no allowance for them, they're technically illegal because there is no way to ride one legally except on private property. I could be wrong though.
That is correct.
Any passenger carrying vehicle that runs via a motor (not pedals) must be registered and meet all the criteria to be registered so it can be legally used on the road.
E-scooters do not meet the criteria to be registered at present. Nobody banned them…Nobody banned them…
Correct. It all has to do with the Australia Design Rules (ADR) which categorise all road vehicles. Since there is no category for electric scooters, there is no way to register them for use on the road. This will probably change eventually, but the wheels of government move slowly.
Blame Constance the old transport minister. He hated these things.
the old transport minister.
I thought he was in his 40's.
I wouldn't necessarily consider that old…
Don't pay fines..maybe they can confiscate my escooter under hoon law legislation while I'm not wearinga mask and a helmet…world gone mad
Totally legal in Queensland. They’re everywhere.
Cops don't really care either. Went past several cops riding 2x on a single scooter, on a footpath with no repercussions.
I know a few people working for NSW Police and they ride them to work. So that should tell you how they are viewed by most people.
Melbourne bicycle cops are actively out th fining scooter riders. Seen it myself now 3x and also my hairdressers friend told me
Sydney man fined thousands after riding e-scooter on road
https://9now.nine.com.au/a-current-affair/sydney-man-fined-t…He was just used as an example.
And now everyone uses this article as a scare tactic.A scare tactic that's not even applicable everywhere too. If I did the same thing a cop wouldn't even notice.
Been past cops in Orange NSW on my bright pink onewheel and only ever got a 'what the heck is that thing' look from them, but one day I might get stung
There has been multiple incidents before:
$2.5k of Fines for Using an Electric Scooter
https://www.reddit.com/r/sydney/comments/aeqa53/25k_of_fines…Help! I got 4 fines for riding scooter on the road
https://forums.whirlpool.net.au/archive/9z80jqx9And latest from Melbourne - Police fine more than three dozen e-scooter riders in one-day blitz
https://www.3aw.com.au/police-fine-more-than-three-dozen-e-s…
That last article is misleading;
“They were for things like not wearing a helmet, going through red traffic lights, having passengers,” Mr Weir said.
@Kill Joy: Honestly, I hardly see any of anyone on a $400+ scooter wearing a helmet and following traffic lights riding a scooter except kids probably under 10 (outside Melbourne CBD) ….
@Kill Joy: Assistant Commissioner Road Policing Glenn Weir says 18 of the 38 fines issues to e-scooter riders last Friday were for privately owned scooters, which are illegal if they’re over 200 watts or can go faster than 10km/h
@bobz79: Yeah 18 is significantly less than 'more than 3 dozen' was my point. Still misleading. Of the hundreds (potentially thousands) riding around in these things that's sweet FA.
this vs the Mi Pro 2?
xiaomi lots parts and accessories,, ninebot hmmm yeah nah.. just dont crash your ninebot else you'll be walking till you can find parts..
I'm curious on this too. Both have similar range. The Pro 2 used to go under $700 quite regularly but seems to be OOS everywhere so not sure if that will happen as regularly now.
seems the core difference is the tyres and weatherproofing.
These aren't self starting, you need to kick with your foot to get it rolling first.
So shouldn't they fall under the same category as pedal assisted bicycles?
Yeah cause if you were to push the accelerator accidentally while holding the scooter it wouldn’t be fun
I have Kaabo Mantis 10 DUO in NSW which has had the artificial speed restriction deactivated.
Everyday I see 100s of these things around and the police show little interest, ride them sensibly you will pass the attitude test and get left alone.Petrol is getting stupidly expensive, electric cars are out of reach for the majority and with the amount of traffic around these things are perfect for local private transport. The government will eventually make these legal in every state especially with the push for green energy transportation.
I have a dream where we can scoot from house —> train (with a dedicated scooter carriage that i can easily slot in and sit down) —> scoot to work.
This would probably eliminate a lot of cars totally and do wonders for the environment. Too bad i'll probably be dead before this is a thing
the melbourne trials are in inner city areas that have reasonable amounts tcs of bike paths, will be interesting if after the trials other scooters are legalised or still just lime and neuron ….and if it’s just lime and neuron if people will start “ re purposing” thoise, in the USA as scooters hal end of useful life they sell them to people, if that happens here you wouldn’t be able to tell if it’s a rental lime or neuron or a sold one ….. worse might be people steeling them and hacking, believe you can buy replacement displays and brains for the neutrons already from overseas ….
I think we’ll need to hire a legal consultant to handle every scooter post given the comments
So want, but I live in NSW. A guy I know got done for $2k and another in the news recently for $2.5k (or $3.5k: Can't remember). Maybe one day we will be as advanced as Belarus
They'll let anything roll through there, especially the Red army.
Guy you know got done?
A mate from uni days. The other case was on ACA or something like that (5 min piece)
Soooo, how do you unlock the 25kmh limit?
And can these be check in baggage in a interstate flight?
And can these be check in baggage in a interstate flight?
Nope… not with the battery.
Have a few coworkers who ride these things to work, If I didn't live so far I'd buy one as well.
in melb i see people ride scooters for 10 km to work …. i start my cycle trip 10 km from home on bike paths and they are passing towards the cbd so assume they are heading to cbd.
I saw a three get booked within 30 mins when I was in the city a couple of weeks back.
Same … Watch out for the bicycle coppers… they always come in pairs…
Just get the kabo mantis and leave them in the dust with their bicycles
get the kabo mantis
They are now all armed with tyre spikes…
Just bought the G30 Max and it's currently on route to a JBHiFi Store for pick up. This deal has me rethinking to opt for the F40A instead. I don't need the range nor do I really need it for steep heel climbs.
- Does JBHifi allow for exchanges, in this case to take advantage of the deal? G30 to save $500 for the the F40A
- Main thing is the IPX7 for the G30 Max, how is the F30 with water resistance and rain? Is it worth forking over the extra cash for sound of mind?
G30 max is pricey in Jb and its V2, lighter, but slower and does not have the built in battery. Much better buying it from gearbite on EBay and get the global version. WIth ebay discounts its often way cheaper then JB and even if not there are the Jb G30's on ebay at official sellers for $999 or less
I believe this is practically identical to the Xiaomi M365 Pro 2 which has been slightly cheaper recently (Segway make both). Please correct me if I’m wrong.
I rode mine everywhere in Adelaide.
Like others have mentioned, be sensible and you’re likely to be ok.
They should follow Germany. 60au yearly rego, you have a little number plate, you are insured, you are treated like a bike (right of way always).
20km limit, 300w Max Power.
That model is too sensible for our government to implement
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