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Knipex Wrench Pliers 8603250 (250mm) $69.44 Delivered @ Amazon UK via AU

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Having saw the Cobra on sale (Thanks ozbargain!) I decided to check the Wrench Pliers & Noticed this 8603250 model for $69.44 .

I promised myself I'd get one if it dropped below $70, and here we are. Hopefully a deal as I'm not too familiar with all the models Knipex has.

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Edit: This appears to be an older model according to this video, but that's not necessarily a bad thing (still being produced?) - I'm still keeping my order.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAEaKGZQ8Ec

Edit #2: For those wondering why this is better than a shift spanner or a slip-joint pliers, someone explains it here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGb4WF4e8YQ

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  • garage sale on 08/02/2022 - 08:46
    +5

    great pliers i own a pair …..there are cheaper copies (trojan at bunnings) but not the same quality or finish.

        • gadgetguy on 08/02/2022 - 08:58
          +7

          Link? Can't find any equivalent Trojan for $10.

            • jjno41 on 08/02/2022 - 11:12
              +5

              @bargaino: They are not even close to being the same product

              • bargaino on 08/02/2022 - 11:23
                -2

                @jjno41: Pointless post. Why not say something helpful? There is a huge overlap in purpose between the 2.

                But yes, there is no copy of this particular design at Bunnings at any price. Which is odd, since the patent has expired.

                • apsilon on 08/02/2022 - 12:01

                  @bargaino: Actually there is, or at least used to be, haven't looked for a little while. Bunnings sell a few NWS brand tool which are also German and a very good brand, and one of the items is the NWS version of these for IIRC $59. However while they are very good, the Knipex are better.

              • garage sale on 08/02/2022 - 16:35
                +1

                @jjno41: the Knipex has a small lever that gives it 10x force applied, very smart design, better than a shifter ……

            • mickeyjuiceman on 08/02/2022 - 11:21
              +3

              @bargaino: Craftright is unmitigated junk, Knipex is awesome. Why even pretend to compare these things (even if you ignore they're not even CLOSE to being the same actual tool)?

              • bargaino on 08/02/2022 - 11:25
                -5

                @mickeyjuiceman: I was trying to be helpful by linking to the tool others have mentioned.

                It does some of the same things, but obviously not enough leverage for others. Why do you need to state the obvious? Does it make you feel superior to be such a guardian of quality? Horses for courses I say.

                • g1 on 08/02/2022 - 12:57
                  +3

                  @bargaino: I think the point being made is that its best to compare apples to apples not apples to nashis . So it would be helpful to compare wrench pliers to wrench pliers. Maybe comparing them to an adjustable wrench with flat jaws would be more useful than comparing them to cobras.

            • gadgetguy on 08/02/2022 - 15:12

              @bargaino: Ah but that's not comparable at all. Aimed mainly at JV, not you.

            • TheOtherLeft on 08/02/2022 - 17:16

              @bargaino: Comparing the Crapright to the Knipex is like comparing a Mitsubishi Mirage to a McLaren. Yeah they're both cars but one does it a whole lot better.

      • apsilon on 08/02/2022 - 08:58
        +12

        I've snapped a handle off cheap junk pliers once and also the tip of the jaws on some cheap needle nose pliers before. I just be superhuman.

      • John Kimble on 08/02/2022 - 09:15
        +2

        My 3 year old son accepts your challenge.

      • iamherenow on 08/02/2022 - 10:07
        -2

        Agree. $70 for these is nuts. I have two pairs of cheapies I have been using extensively for years, and they are still doing exactly what they need to.

        Maybe buy the cheap ones and write knipex on them if it makes you feel better…

        • Harold Halfprice on 08/02/2022 - 23:00
          +1

          Do you use them for work, on a daily basis?

          I don't see why people like you feel compelled to tell everyone how their cheapo tool is good enough for them - so the objectively better tool isn't worth the money.

          • mickeyjuiceman on 09/02/2022 - 08:29
            +1

            @Harold Halfprice: Because of where you are. It's called OzBARGAIN - which the numbnuts (see this thread!) read as OzLowestPriceForSomethingThatLooksVaguelyTheSame not OzActualQualityButCheaper

          • iamherenow on 09/02/2022 - 18:02

            @Harold Halfprice: Well it's a forum isn't it? People normally express their opinion on forums…

            • Harold Halfprice on 09/02/2022 - 18:47
              +1

              @iamherenow: Yeah it's a forum, and people express their opinions.

              But there's something about posts involving quality, professional grade tools specifically that make some people compelled to tell everyone how their $10 version is good enough for the 5 times they use it around the house.

              This product clearly isn't for you… Do you tell chefs that their professional knives are pointless because you cook just fine with the knives you bought from Woolies?

            • g1 on 09/02/2022 - 19:24

              @iamherenow: Technically the forum is in the forum section…
              But, would you go into a mechanic's workshop and tell them that they are wasting money on their preferred brand of tools? That your Trojan tools are so much better. And, that they should buy Trojan tools and write some other brand name if it makes them feel better?
              Try that with the mechanic that services your family's cars. Then write a comment here on what the mechanic does or says.

              • iamherenow on 09/02/2022 - 21:13

                @g1: People can use whatever tools they want.

                Don't have any trojan tools. tried them a couple of times and found them very poor quality.

                You think car mechanics will be really precious too? In that case I'd better not…

                • g1 on 09/02/2022 - 21:58

                  @iamherenow: I think they would laugh at the suggestion that some poor quality but cheap tool can replace their good quality tools that take a daily beating. I dont think they would think much of people claiming that the cheapest thing at bunnings is the way to go all the time.
                  So give them a laugh…

                  • iamherenow on 09/02/2022 - 22:07

                    @g1: When I say cheapie, I am not referring to junk. The cheapest stuff at be bunnings is junk - I agree and won't touch it. But there is an in-between.

      • Lou Sarsol on 08/02/2022 - 10:14

        Well I’m either not human or you have no clue what you’re talking about.

      • Laziofogna on 08/02/2022 - 10:43

        Ok if you have to use them one or two times at year at home. For professionals think again

      • figarow on 08/02/2022 - 10:57

        Yep. Unless you are a professional and work with them everyday having expensive tools is an expensive habit.

      • g1 on 08/02/2022 - 12:53
        +2

        Not true. I've had Trojan break. I've had Trojan rust while others don't .
        Some may say buy Trojan and replace them when its time. But that just adds to landfill…

    • tugman on 08/02/2022 - 11:38
      +2

      Snapped a Trojan pair only a week or so ago…. garbo qual.

      • spoonmugen on 08/02/2022 - 18:26

        i have the trojan ones… $16
        they do the job of turning a nut…

        • tugman on 08/02/2022 - 20:26
          +3

          Sure, but sometimes buying quality is better in the long run.

    • bondiben on 08/02/2022 - 12:42

      Do you have a link? - I've only seen the Trojan multi grips, which seem to be comparable to the Knipex Cobra, not this one.
      https://www.bunnings.com.au/trojan-250mm-multigrip-plier_p01…
      https://sydneytools.com.au/product/knipex-8701250-250mm-cobr…

  • Jimothy Wongingtons on 08/02/2022 - 08:49
    +10

    According to r/edc do you even edc if you don’t have a set of these for some reason (and also a small arsenal of handguns/automatic rifles, 5 knives (????), a camp oven, a pack of playing cards, an Altoids branded tin with tape, pins and meds, and a collectors edition ‘stonecutters’ members ring, I guess) all packed into a ridiculous 3 day trek bag?

    • MrThing on 08/02/2022 - 09:46
      +4

      that you take everywhere, even when you go to buy milk across the road

    • ak47wong on 08/02/2022 - 10:25
      +3

      You obviously don't edc because you forgot the 100,000 lumen torch

      • Jimothy Wongingtons on 08/02/2022 - 10:54
        +2

        Save space by having it as a tactical attachment for under barrel of rifle and or pistol

    • SirDale on 08/02/2022 - 12:07
      +2

      That subreddit is crazy…

  • zector on 08/02/2022 - 08:50
    +1

    Im new to this. What's the difference between this and the Cobra? When to use this vs the other? Thanks for sharing btw

    • junkmark on 08/02/2022 - 08:55
      +20

      These have a mechanism that keeps the jaws parallel to each other. Also the jaws are smooth and don't have any teeth/serrations. You can use these on something like a nut/bolt or other thing with flat edges without chewing it up. On the other hand the smooth jaws won't grip something like a pipe, you'll want the serrated jaws of the cobra for that.

      • zector on 08/02/2022 - 09:02

        makes sense, thanks!

        • garage sale on 08/02/2022 - 16:39

          better than a shifter, the harder you push down, the tighter they grip in the jaw, i've put these on nuts and stood on the handle and they grab tighter, but designed for flat surfaces e.g hex or square nuts, box section metal etc.

      • burningrage on 08/02/2022 - 09:41
        +1

        Nice description! I am almost sold on this

      • bargaino on 08/02/2022 - 11:27

        Why are there no cheaper copies of this design? I read that the patent has expired.

        • apsilon on 08/02/2022 - 12:04

          There's a heap of brands that make copies of these. There's a youtube channel I think called German Tool Reviews (has been inactive for a while last time I checked) and they tested a bunch of them in a comparison vid though some were also more expensive IIRC.

    • jv on 08/02/2022 - 08:56
      -8

      It's like when women buy different pairs of shoes…

      • zector on 08/02/2022 - 09:04
        +1

        one can never have enough! haha

    • gumbs on 08/02/2022 - 09:32
      +1

      The cobra is just a set of multi grips, they're basically just pliers with an adjustable jaw width.

      These are more like a shifter then pliers the mechanism keeps the jaws parralel and closes tight around a bolt/nut. But you don't need to set the jaw width perfectly each time and it takes up the little bit of slack when you push on them.

      I just wish they were the 8" ones not the 12".

  • jv on 08/02/2022 - 08:53
    -2

    I wonder who bought one for $220 ?

    • Jimothy Wongingtons on 08/02/2022 - 09:20
      +8

      It was an NFT of this set

      • nfr on 08/02/2022 - 09:43

        What a bargain

  • impoze on 08/02/2022 - 09:17
    +2

    use my pliers wrench all the time for bike work

    I use the 6", 180mm versions though

  • Banj0 on 08/02/2022 - 09:32
    +2

    I didn't know I needed these until this was posted.

    Ordered…hopefully Amazon UK doesn't send me a Cheryl Crow CD instead this time.

  • cashless on 08/02/2022 - 09:36

    Having saw the Cobra

    How do you saw a cobra?

    • ChadHominem on 08/02/2022 - 09:47
      +2

      With a wrench

    • MonkDog on 08/02/2022 - 09:47
      +2

      Having saw the Cobra

      How do you saw a cobra?

      Very carefully…

  • MrThing on 08/02/2022 - 09:47
    -8

    Wrench pliers….for people who don't want to buy proper tools and LOVE rounded bolts

    • Phlume on 08/02/2022 - 09:54
      +2

      These actually perform better than adjustable wrenches. When you apply pressure it applies a tight grip better than a shifter can. Don't know if it's 4x better with price in consideration.

      • MrThing on 08/02/2022 - 10:04
        -2

        adjustable wrenches are just as bad

        sockets or fixed size spanners if you don't want to trash what you're fixing

        • siuol on 08/02/2022 - 10:18

          cheap adjustable wreches are the worst…

        • slipperypete on 08/02/2022 - 10:46
          +8

          Wrench pliers….for people who don't want to buy proper tools and LOVE rounded bolts

          sorry but you obviously don't understand this tool

        • slipperypete on 08/02/2022 - 13:06
          +1

          adjustable wrenches are just as bad

          sockets or fixed size spanners if you don't want to trash what you're fixing

          do a little reading to understand why this tool is so useful. This isn't a simple adjustable wrench. Your comments actually made me buy this as I have a smaller version and I forgot how incredibly useful it is….BTW yes I have a complete range of sockets and spanners

          different tools for different uses

          • MrThing on 08/02/2022 - 13:09
            -4

            @slipperypete: you must have heaps of rounded over bolts from using the "does it all drill bit" version of tools hence why this is so useful to you

            Ill continue to use sockets on my perfectly, still hex, bolts

    • milar on 08/02/2022 - 11:01
      +7

      I'm going to assume from your comment that you have zero experience with these wrench pliers.

      • MrThing on 08/02/2022 - 11:34
        -3

        No because I use the right tool for the job, not a "does it all drill bit" version of a tool

  • Rorschach on 08/02/2022 - 09:55

    Nice, won't be long before the mini goes on a discount at this rate!

  • turbochris on 08/02/2022 - 09:58
    +4

    The cheapest place to buy Knipex I have found is a site in Italy that offers discount German tools.

    misterworker.com

    Probably not great for a one item purchase when shipping is factored in, but if you are looking to buy a fair few tools then it can be much cheaper.

    I also buy Stahlwille and Hazet tools from there and I have not found anywhere cheaper.

    They regularly have 15-20% coupon codes which stack with already discounted prices.

    • mrhugo on 08/02/2022 - 10:47
      +1

      How much have you spend from them. I've always felt a bit uneasy ordering from there, so never bothered. Coupled with very little reviews.

      BTW: I've found Hazet and Stahlwille (and any other forged tool) cheaper on Amazon UK with prime. While you may pay GST and a bit more for the item, shipping 10Kg of metal from Europeis $$$, with Prime its free. Only issue is Amazon have a very small range.

      • turbochris on 08/02/2022 - 10:56

        I have spent a couple of grand in three orders, its good that they have the entire range of their brands.

        One order took ages to ship because a few items were on back order, but otherwise they have been good. If it is less than 1000 then customs don't stop it for GST.

        If you sign up for their newsletter they have a different special each month, sometimes just on one brand, other months across the whole site (e.g. 20% off).

        • mrhugo on 08/02/2022 - 11:18

          That's for that. I have a stack of stuff I needed and will add it to their cart and see. But good to know that so far you have been happy. Slow postage or things that can't be shipped is pretty normal these days.

          Yep, always $950, to account for any currency changes and to be a little safe :-)

      • garage sale on 08/02/2022 - 16:42
        +1

        shipping steel tools and cookware from europe and USA is why I got prime, I've even bought hammers from overseas ….. ebay sucks for shipping things from europe or USA ….

  • browser on 08/02/2022 - 10:01

    One of the features is smooth jaws, while the idea is good, I wonder if the jaws can be damaged by hard work pieces and subsequently no longer smooth and becoming damaging. So still best to use some cushioning material for protection while working on rough surfaces.

    • uncyspam on 08/02/2022 - 10:31
      +1

      I am not gentle on mine, and the jaws are unmarked after a few years of use. I have just bought a set of hardness tester files and I will definitely be testing the jaws to see just how hard they are.
      They are designed for use on smooth surfaces though. if you are trying to grip a rough surface that is also very hard, this wouldn't be the right tool for the job.

  • johnwinds on 08/02/2022 - 10:15
    +1

    Damn it, can't resist the Knipex!

  • siuol on 08/02/2022 - 10:26
    +3

    I got a fever and the only prescription is more Knipex

    • jefflang007 on 08/02/2022 - 10:44

      I need more Knipex.

  • mrhugo on 08/02/2022 - 10:38
    +1

    I'm been waiting for ages for the 300mm to get sub $100. Will probably just pick it up in Europe when I'm there.

    While amazon UK prices are good (this listing for the 250mm for under $70 AUD is awsome), back in the old days of amazon.de shipping to Australia there was no cheaper place to get German products. Take off VAT and pay fair price for shipping (something like 8 euro per Kg). Stocked up on Hazet/Wera/Knipex/Festool/Wiha…not to mention 10's of thousands spent on household stuff…all in $950 AUD orders ;-)

    There was also a time when shipping was a flat 40 euro. But I think they got rid of that when people started ordering 50kg home threatre setups.

  • Public21 on 08/02/2022 - 10:45

    Might be useful for maintenance on my coffee machine without damaging the chrome. (Would still use tape on the jaws.)

    The big parts are bigger than any spanner I have - and I have seen people using multi grips with serrated jaws on the chrome!

    • mrhugo on 08/02/2022 - 10:54

      You can get 86 09 250 V01 which are protective jaws. Be careful using this on things you don’t want damaged. If you don't provide enough clamping strength on the two handles you run a very possible risk of jaws opening as you try to rotate the nut/head. You will end up rounding out the nut/head.

      Not only do you need to keep pressure on the handles, you need to rotate it at the same time. It may be better to use the correct sized wrench in the first place.

      I tend to use these on things like plumbing. For anything important, car, bike, machinery, I use the correct sized wrench or socket.

  • DeepDreamer on 08/02/2022 - 10:47
    +6

    Sigh, bought. I dub thee Knipeneloops

    • johnwinds on 08/02/2022 - 14:03
      +1

      Eneloops are so yesterday, I stopped buying a while ago (as I already have more than I could ever possibly use). Knipex is where it's at these days.

  • altomic on 08/02/2022 - 11:01
    -3

    I have these.

    Haron 45mm Slip Joint Pliers $13.48 at bunnings

    replaced a roof top solar hot water service using them. ( plus a few other jobs)

    paying ~$70 is stupid

    • slipperypete on 08/02/2022 - 11:06
      +7

      again as with other comments, you completely miss the purpose of this tool

    • wimphrel on 08/02/2022 - 12:56
      +3

      I think the Haron's you have shown are more aligned to the the $38 cobra's shown in the other ozbargain post.
      These smooth surface jaws are not for pipe use & cost more than the cobras

      Having bought a decent set of Repco Spanners 2 years ago for ~$160, for car work, this tool could probably do a better job over the set most of the time. (There are some parts of the car I can't get a socket into)

      There's also less risk of rounding off bolts over spanners -> since the force is applied evenly across opposed sides of the nut - I think you even add more grip when gripping the handle too, which you can't do with a spanner.

  • DeepDreamer on 08/02/2022 - 11:05
    +1

    Promo video: https://www.youtube.com/embed/1_RLWKMXrqk

  • kanine on 08/02/2022 - 11:16
    +4

    Irrational purchase complete.

  • IXXI on 08/02/2022 - 11:43
    +3

    I have 3 sets of these in various sizes. They are indispensable. I recommend very highly.

  • PeteM on 08/02/2022 - 11:58
    +3

    These are quite different to multigrips, adjustable wrenches, shifters or wrench pliers. They are marketed towards trades people, not home handyman and the price and quality reflect that. Basically, allows you to have an adjustable spanner, with parallel jaws that do not slip. I never would have considered them either before trying them firsthand, had a colleague from Sweden bring them over with him, apparently hugely popular over there. Although I will say I much prefer the comfort grip ones I have.

  • haru on 08/02/2022 - 13:52
    +1

    The things we promise ourselves…

  • greencomet on 08/02/2022 - 14:26

    These are great! I have the 7 and 10 inch ones, they always come in handy.

  • Dark Zeus on 08/02/2022 - 18:58

    Great product for fingernail trimming…

  • LlamaOfDoom on 08/02/2022 - 21:41

    Why wouldn't you buy an actual shifter instead?
    https://www.tradetools.com/hand-tools/adjustable-wrenches/sh…

    These don't have grippy jaw so they are only really for nuts/bolts, why not get a better tool at a cheaper price?

    • g1 on 09/02/2022 - 01:06
      +2

      You can get stronger hold/grip with these. As someone mentioned above you can put your body weight onto these and that reinforces the grip. Adjustable wrenches are harder to set tight and they don't stay as tight.
      This has a sort of ratcheting action (its not ratcheting), as in you don't have to remove them from the fastener to move them back to starting position for the next turn. They can effectively slide over the corners on the fastener without rounding the fastener as the grip is loosened. So its a bit quicker to use them than an adjustable wrench where you need to either remove the wrench and set it again or untighten, move, and retighten.
      It is possible to use these as sort of pliers to bend something, much quicker than doing that with an adjustable wrench.
      In summary less likelihood of stripping fasteners, and time saving.

    • apsilon on 09/02/2022 - 06:30
      +2

      why not get a better tool

      The pliers wrench is the better tool. I've never used an adjustable wrench since I got my first pliers wrench. In fact I don't think I even have an adjustable wrench anymore.

    • Harold Halfprice on 09/02/2022 - 15:56
      +3

      Shifters do not apply a gripping force to the bolt head, which means the jaws tend to loosen slightly and can round the bolt head.

      The jaws on wrench pliers actually apply a compressive force to the bolt head, which prevents them from slipping and rounding the head.

      These essentially offer the convenience of a shifter, with the functionality closer to that of a ratcheting spanner.

  • Technics on 08/02/2022 - 23:18
    +2

    Highly recommended. While they do seem expensive I once used the 400mm version of these and a squirt of WD40 to remove an old sword from a stone and now I'm the king of Britain.

  • TheOtherLeft on 09/02/2022 - 08:33

    Damn you OzB, I just had to buy it because….

  • woahxd on 09/02/2022 - 08:53

    I have the 180mm one, do i need this?

    • g1 on 09/02/2022 - 11:52

      If its for home then something like laundry washing machine taps most likely need something this size.

      Because you are asking I am taking it you are not asking for work as you’d already know the work requirements.

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