Seems to be a good deal
Product infos:
• Layout supports natural posture
• Wrist base support
• Reduce strain and improve posture
• Lower keycaps reduce key travel
• Improved comfortability
• Keyboard Key 104 keys
• Ergonomic design
• Wireless connection
Dimensions
• Product size (mm): 500 x 212 x 35.2
Clicking and reading product descriptions won't harm 😀 . It says 2.4 Ghz
Indeed u r 😉
I'm just lazzy :-)
ShouldBuyIt as the 'z' key on your keyboard doesn't seem to working well.
and comes with a dongle
Both Bluetooth and WiFi use 2.4GHz, though the 'choice' will be between Bluetooth and IR.
No desktop keyboard in 2022 is infrared. I assume you meant RF.
I can’t see ant BT logos anywhere so this one is sure to be RF.
cool! looks like microsoft ergonomic keyboard !
https://www.ergolink.com.au/microsoft-ergonomic-keyboard-cor…
MS is corded
Wikipedia has several pictures of the various MS ergonomic keyboards:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_ergonomic_keyboard…
None of the MS keyboards has a gap between the two halves of the space bar, like this one does. Looks like this one will force you to curl your thumb under your palm to use the space bar, and I wonder if that will cause problems. I reckon my thumb will naturally rest where the gap is.
I have a similar keyboard to this style (alice keyboard) and find it completely natural.
Perhaps also helpful for people learning touch typing, as it clearly shows which keys are "left-hand keys" and which are "right-hand keys", and pretty much forces you to use the "correct" hand for every key.
Also makes it easier to find "home position" without looking.
Actually, it's got one key wrong. "6" key on the top row of keys should be a left-hand key, as it is on the MS ergonomic keyboards. On the Aldi keyboard, "6" is in the right-hand keys.
No, the 6 key is usually a right-hand key. Your hands are supposed to shift up and down each row with a left slant. Image search "touch typing chart" will show the majority recommendation, although a minority do recommend the left index finger. All MS ergonomic keyboards (I think one of the earliest MS model have it correct) have the 6 key on the wrong side (as far as the majority touch-typists are concerned).
From a historical prospective, here are two finger charts from Smith-Corona.
This keyboard is one of the few ergonomic keyboards that has the 6 key placed correctly.
Your hands are supposed to shift up and down each row with a left slant.
I don't think so, if so that gives far more top-row keys to the right hand than to the left hand.
Have a look at actual keyboards on Amazon - Logitech, Microsoft and Perixx (the major manufacturers of ergonomic keyboards) all agree 6 is a left-hand key. As did the touch-typing training program that that I used, when I learned.
If people believe you should slant your hands, then you're adjusting your behavior to suit the keyboard - the very opposite of the whole "ergonomic" concept. The slope is a historical artefact from mechanical typewriters, where it was the only possible option that prevented the actuator arms from colliding.
@Russ: You can write to Smith-Corona and tell them their finger charts had been wrong since 1920's, and refer them to the standard set by Logitech, Microsoft and Perixx. LOL. (I think most manufacturers put the 6 key on the left for visual symmetry and/or easy of manufacturing. Just my opinion.)
The right pinky finger has always has more keys assigned to it even before the electronic keyboards added more keys to its right. A typist's index fingers are responsible for 2 keys on each row in the conventional arrangement. If the 6 key is re-assigned to the left then suddenly the left index finger is responsible for 3 keys, the right index finger for 1 key but only for numbers row. Now you have to remember which row you are on.
If you are concerned with the unequal number of keys in the numbers row, then give the Kinesis Advantage keyboard a go. Equal number of keys on all rows and the 6 key on the right hand side.
At the end of the day you can type with whatever arrangement you are comfortable with. Many of the fastest touch typists don't even type with all their fingers.
If the 6 key is re-assigned to the left then suddenly the left index finger is responsible for 3 keys,
That's not the way I do it. A quick search found this which is pretty close to what I was taught, with slight variations:
https://www.reddit.com/r/learntyping/comments/heypww/why_the…
I don't do it exactly like that, I don't do 3 and 4 with the same finger, and left pinky is responsible for 2,1,~. Likewise 8 and 9 are on different fingers, and the right pinky does the minus/underline key and all the keys to the right of that.
I'm quite sure Microsoft, Logitech and Perixx spent tens of thousands of dollars, if not hundreds of thousands or even millions of dollars, working out the most ergonomic arrangement of keys. They do this because they know they'll be sued at some stage by someone who develops an injury, and an American lawyer will encourage them to sue the manufacturer. They'll have well-reasoned explanations for all of their choices.
@Russ: If bigrams and trigrams efficiency is your prime concern then you should ditch QWERTY and switch to Dvorak, Colemak or a modern alternative layout. This is so easy to do on a computer keyboard and it was fun to learn to type again. But it gets annoying when you have to switch back when you have to use a public terminal or someone else's computer.
I wouldn't recommend that finger mapping on reddit to a learner but if it worked for you then who am I to complain? At the end of the day, getting letters on paper and screen is what matters. I probably cannot beat the Swype world record without practice (the unfamiliar word combos in the beginning of the test sentence really slow you down), but that doesn't mean I should ditch touch typing and switch to Swype.
I cannot be certain, and you have presented no evidence to back up your claim, that the keyboard manufacturers had spent millions in research. However, it is plain to see that having the 6 key on the right hand side of an ergonomic keyboard requires two trapezoidal PCBs and casing that are much more expensive (and slightly more difficult) to make., and it will spoil the symmetry of the keyboard. For example, Microsoft's "Manta ray" keyboard (MS Sculpt Ergonomic KB) would be impossible to make with a right-6 key.
@alvian: As it happens, I design electronics for companies that do small-run manufacturing.
A PCB the size of the entire keyboard is $10 each in 500+ quantities (try allpcb.com, they're a reasonable tradeoff between price and reliability). Cuts in the PCB don't cost any extra, and the cuts can be angled, zig-zag or curved.
The plastic case will cost about $15 each in 1000-up quantities, injection-molded in China, but it will cost about $10k to get the molds milled here in Australia. You can get the molds made cheaper in China, but it could take two or three goes before they get it the way you want it. If you have CAD skills and send them a 3D model it will be faster, but they'll still need to adjust your model to allow for sprue points and adjust plastic thickness at various points to get better plastic flow.
I have considered Dvorak keyboard layout, but I didn't know about it when I learned touch typing 34 years ago. Touch typing was useful for university assignments them, but now pretty much the only typing I do is here on OzBargain or the odd email, and half of that is done from my phone. It's not worth the trouble to change.
If I'm using a $7 Officeworks keyboard for my home office which is slowly losing keys, would this be a sensible upgrade for someone that only uses a keyboard to write emails and documentation?
If you can touch type, you should be able to adjust to an ergonomic/split keyboard layout pretty quickly.. otherwise, expect at least a week to relearn how to type.
The Microsoft one would be much better…
Microsoft peripherals are exceptionally good. They're definitely not as good as they used to be, like all brands, but if you want well priced, will designed, and quality bits, they're the way to go.
I am on my third sculpt ergonomic - they LOVE to break. But I also love them.
Getting over it, though. Gonna be moving on. Microsoft peripherals have a good name, but the sculpt ergonomic is a bit of a lemon.
Only issue with the MS ergo keyboard is that the rest pad gets filthy real easy.
wash your hands occasionally
@jv: Not about dirty hands but the normal oil and sweat from your wrist are completely unavoidable. The material for the MS Ergo Keyboard is alcantara which keeps a lot of dirt.
Not filthy, seasoned
Yes, assuming you’re comfortable touch-typing. Microsoft one is probably better, $65-70 or so, but a working keyboard is better than an optimal keyboard.
I'm always interested in things labelled "ergonomic" and whether there's research to back up claims
I once spoke to an ergonomist about a cushioned wrist support for a mouse - the advice they gave was that they end up being worse in the long term as you 'anchor' your wrist to one spot and don't use your whole arm for movement.
and whether there's research to back up claims
The research was done to design these.
I'm always interested in people who label themselves "ergonomists"….
Aldialdisaldarum
(Latin)
"Did you do your Latin?"
For some reason I am going back to wired keyboard lately…
Good - looks like Microsoft Ergonomic keyboard. MS version was built like a tank and lasted 10 years, 3 owners
Bad - if the build quality is anything like previous Aldi keyboard, it's not worth it. I had a BAUHN wireless keyboard which I got at a discount
if the build quality is anything like previous Aldi keyboard
Well, at least you've got 60 days to evaluate it, and can return it for a refund if you don't like it, or if you decide to upgrade to a better keyboard.
When you buy it, don't forget to set a calendar alarm for ~55 days into the future, and keep the receipt and original packaging.
Hope it is not from Tempo. Got the Philips Keyboard combo with bonus webcam from Costco. The quality is horrible. I believe this one to be the same quality only rebadged again by Tempo.
I just checked the warranty info pdf, and it is indeed by Tempo. So Tempo is definitely a no-go in terms of quality?
decent price for wireless + ergonomic factor if build quality is good.
would be nicer if these wireless ergonomic ones go with mechanical switches, would like to pay more for these feature.
I get that this is wireless, but I just bit more you can get a Microsoft ergonomic keyboard. Feels like a safer bet to me.
Neither the Aldi webpage nor the instruction manual make any comment as to whether the RF link is encrypted.
Maybe best not to use this one for anything needing security, like internet banking.
Logitech claim their wireless connections are encrypted.
Is it wireless Bluetooth or 2.4ghz?
May not be a good choice if it's dongle and not unified.