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$1 off ASX Share Brokerage for 12 Months for Referrer, $10 Bonus for Referee (Fund Account within 24 Hours Required) @ Stake

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I noticed Stake is doing a $10 referral bonus for referees and the referrer gets $1 off brokerage for 12 months.

Stake is already the cheapest CHESS sponsored broker at $3 a trade so this just makes it even cheaper and they also have instant deposits which is a bonus. Great for dollar cost averaging.

"When friends use your referral code and fund their Stake AUS account, you'll get $1 off your brokerage for 12 months per referral.

If they fund their new account within 24 hours of signing up they will $10 bonus to trade with.

If you refer more than 3 friends, your 4th reward will activate when any active rewards expire.

Discounted trades are capped at 10 trades per month. Any trades after 10 will be at the standard brokerage of $3 per trade."

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Referrer gets $1 off brokerage for 12 months for each referral. Referees gets $10 bonus (funding account within 24 hours of sign-up required).

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  • Nice deal!

  • Are these guys generally regarded as a good broker for first time investors wanting to invest in international markets?

    • If you can stomach their FX fees then yes.

      • "70BPS ON DEPOSIT AND WITHDRAWAL ONLY" is this what you're referring to? that wouldn't make a massive difference unless you withdraw/transfer often. Unless I'm missing something? What platform has better FX fees? From my research Stake seemed to end up cheapest even if I'm buying to hold and not trade.

        I've been looking for a place to buy some ETF's.

        • It is a lot compared to what you would pay with Wise and other FX services. Sadly, I don't think there is any other broker with better FX fees. Superhero has exactly the same.

        • +9

          Stake might be great for AU but the US trading is sub-par and misleading.

          They charge 70bps USD per AUD. This is actually over 90bps! They should get in trouble for pricing like this.

          Interactive brokers charge 0.002% rather than Stake's 0.9%+. IB has an amazing wholesale rate for fx, a lot of non-bank brokers use fx brokers that alread pad the rate by 0.1% before the fx fee is charged.

          IB do charge 1usd flat for brokerage or you can used their tiered structure that costs 0.35usd for most trades. If you price your order inside the spread, they'll even waive your brokerage as a thankyou for adding liquidity (the US exhanges encourage this).

          Basically, a $3k trade will cost over $20 on Stake US in fx fees rather than the total fees of around 50c on IB.

          • @Moddy:

            They charge 70bps USD per AUD. This is actually over 90bps!

            Good post… except for this rubbish

            e.g. exchange rate 1 AUD = 0.70 USD

            Whether you take 70 basis points (0.7%) in fees before or after the conversion makes no difference whatsoever

            100 AUD * 0.993 * 0.7

            is exactly the same as

            100 AUD * 0.7 * 0.993

            • +5

              @tharlow: Unfortunately, you're incorrect.

              Refer to gross fx margin in https://hellostake.com/au/legal/financial-services-guide

              "70 FX points from the spot rate, ie. $0.70 on every A$100 transferred (min FX fee $2)."

              All Stake US fees are charged in USD. It's very misleading.

              So assuming aud/usd of 0.7 and transfer of $3k AUD. 3K AUD becomes $2100USD then $21USD gets deducted for fx fee (30 * 0.7). 21 USD then becomes $30AUD. $30AUD is 1% of $3k AUD.

              The trick is charging a USD fee per AUD transferred. They also don't pad the spot rate with their fee, they charge against the AUD amount. This is poor. Multiplying a 0.70 exchange rate by 1.007 adds 0.0049 to make a final rate of 0.7049 (what other brokers do, really they use the inverse of this rate, see SuperHero). I don't use Stake US. Maybe they're not that bad and their doco just sucks.

              Stake aren't too bad, there are others like CMC that charge less FX but then don't have a USD account at all, so you get hit with auto fx fees ALL THE TIME.

              • +1

                @Moddy:

                All Stake US fees are charged in USD. It's very misleading.

                • +1

                  @tharlow: Read the link. They charge $0.70USD per $100AUD converted.

                  Unless you have personal experience using Stake US to the contrary, the Stake FSG clearly says it.

                  Do Stake need to fix the FSG or do you need to wrap your mind around it before understanding?

                  • +4

                    @Moddy:

                    All Stake US fees are charged in USD. It's very misleading.

                    Wow.

                    “A simple way to think about it: Stake fee is US$0.70 per AU$100 transferred in or out.”

                    You are correct! Unbelievable bullshit. No wonder they use the “basis points” obfuscation…

                    My humble apologies

                    • +3

                      @tharlow: All good mate. Just trying to educate. Would have been happy to had been wrong as it would have meant the fees were better than I thought.

                      They use simplification to obfuscate.

                      I'm surprised someone hasn't complained to the regulator.

                      I guess I should be happy the US traders on their platform are subsidising my AU trades…..

                      • @Moddy: If they said “pips” instead of “basis points” then they may have had a leg to stand on…

                        • +1

                          @tharlow: To really rub the salt in the wound, Stake US reserve the right to charge $5USD everytime a W8-BEN form is submitted (every 3 years) and will charge up to 0.03USD per quarter, per stock in ADR fees.

                          They also charge $200USD to transfer out holdings for up to 4 holdings, then $50USD each over that. Pretty average for a lot of US brokers but the minimum is a bit nasty, SW is $110AUD each.

                          IB is almost the only one that doesn't charge to transfer US shares out.

          • @Moddy: hey Moddy good post i have been thinking of switching to ibkr currently on stake. Do you know if ibkr allows dividend reinvestment plans, stake currently doesnt have this feature which is disappointing.

            • @Jrod: Dividend reinvestment doesn't really exist with US trading. Where it is available, it's a specific platform feature we don't normally see on platforms aussies can access that has the platform doing an auto trade rather than simply receiving DRP shares from a registry. Neither IB or Stake support this for US trading.

              Stake AU is CHESS and supports DRP where the AU holding supports it.

              IB is not CHESS and does not support DRP for AU holdings.

              Stake is a better platform than IB for AU trading. Use IB for any other market.

    • +3

      Where is rektrading?

  • I can’t find my referral code. Help!

  • Thanks OP

  • +1

    The new referral codes start with your first name, If you are getting a 6 digit code, that's a referral code used during their Beta launch.

  • Discounted Brokerage also applies to portfolio transfer.

  • In the app, under Profile. The same code under Rewards (its all Capital letters) but it also says Free US Stocks and Trade the ASX at $0. Anyone got the same?

  • Best broker for day trading because it is so cheap.

  • I'm with Commsec which is arguably the most expensive broker, so I just signed up to compare if I could cut over to Stake.

    There doesn't seem to be any order depth available and pricing is certainly not live. There's no indication that pricing is delayed, so when people are complaining about slow execution of orders on ProductReview… the lack of live pricing might explain why.

    No contra settlement, so if you sell you need to wait T+2 days before you can use those funds to buy something else. Many probably don't care about this.

    Stake is appealing, but I don't trade a ridiculous amount so I'm happy to stick with Commsec for the time being and bear the extra cost here and there.

    • +8

      I buy on stake but keep my commsec account open for research purposes.

    • +1

      Trading on unsettled funds is allowed - https://hellostake.com/au/support/aus/articles/35000187091

      Yes there is no market depth which is available. Prices are live when viewing individual stocks or ordering but it appears they're using chi-x exchange data which is different. Bid/offer figures are close to what I see on SW.

      If you're using limit orders, at worst, you'll get no fill or a better price than expected.

      I use SW while using Stake to keep an eye on it and I'm happy.

      Yes, Stake is super light on research. SW and Commsec are much better. There are other sources of info than just brokers though.

      Stake or SW save you loads of money if you need to make large adjustments. Enjoy paying 6-10 times more for trades for features you largely seem to not need anyway….

    • so if you sell you need to wait T+2 days before you can use those funds to buy something els

      This is so incorrect. I don't know where you got this from.

      • -1

        Regurgitating information from the internet is where I got it from.
        Thanks to you and Moddy for the correction, I'd edit my post if I could.

    • They fixed the settlement issue post beta

  • +6

    best broker to buy ASX stocks hands down

  • +4

    Really wish they would add market depth. The convenience of having that in one place is enough for me to pay more for SelfWealth.

    • what do you use market depth for. That's the table that shows buyer and seller demand/supply for different prices right?

      • Yeah you’re right about what it is.

        I mostly trade small caps, where watching the depth live can give you an idea of whether big buy or sell orders are going through. That can in turn influence where to price your order. It’s less useful for large caps.

    • +2

      My biggest gripe is they really need to support HIN transfers. Moving holdings onto a new HIN is very annoying and can cost money as one can lose residual DRP cash depending on the DRP policy of the holdings you move.

      That's the number one issue IMO, then market depth. I was happy to cop the loss of a few $ on some of my holdings. The admin effort and paperwork with redoing everything with Link, Computershares and the Chess system definitely isn't great.

      Migrating the whole HIN is the gold standard. Stake's market participant FinClear definitely support it.

      • +2

        Wholeheartedly agree. This is something they need to do asap. If you’ve gone to the effort to set up your holdings on you hin a particular way, having to do that all again is a pain in the backside.

  • +3

    Stake has also begun offering 12 months free asx brokerage (first 10 trades per month) if you transfer portfolio to them with certain conditions.

    Refer to their blog post for further info and conditions.

    https://hellostake.com/au/blog/stake-updates/asx-portfolio-t…

    Unclear if offer has an expiry date.

    • Does SW charge for transferring portfolio out?

      • Not for AU stocks. Remember, Stake can only move them onto a new HIN atm.

        SW charge $110 PER HOLDING for US stocks. :(

  • Hmm, is it ozbargained? Surely not, tried on Brave, Chrome, Edge, all just hangs after entering details to sign up? Unless it's the "Referral code" that's causing it to hang? Anyone else had any issues signing up?

    EDIT: Ad blocker - my bad

  • +1

    the way they have mobile phone and then "stake" on the snapshot, it looks like mobile phone covers some letters at the beginning there

    could just read "mistake" for all we know

    bad design move

  • You need to weigh up the savings here vs what you lose by not having market depth and live pricing.
    If you are a regular trader - let's say one trade per trading day (or more) you would be surprised by how much you can lose by not getting your entry / exit points on trades because you are using another system like Commsec (on the side) for this data.

    • It's what I do now and I don't see it as an issue. I watch market depth in one browser tab and execute the Stake trade on another tab. There's a half second delay to click on the browser tabs.

    • There is live pricing when viewing individual stocks or on the order pad. They just use chi-x data which is only reported on some trades, so is often different to ASX data.

  • So $30 saving per month?

    • Only if you trade that much.

      I guess you need to save $1 here and $2 there to put food on the table every month.

  • I was referred to use STAKE and made my deposit. However, I did not receive my $10 credit?

    • That's for the person that referred you.

      • 1 dollar off brokerage - the referrer

        $10 dollar bonus - the referree

        As a noun referrer is a person who refers another.

        As a verb referee is.

        • Apologies, I misread.

          Being that it takes up to a week to add the referral trade discounts at the moment, I'm guessing the $10 process only gets run a few times a week as well.

          • @Moddy: I see. Makes sense that the runs may be to a few times a week. I was worried I had been missed.

            • @BigBTrain: You need to claim it from within the app. If you qualify the $10 is added straight into your wallet. I signed up, funded and claimed today all within 1 hour

  • Heads up: they have now changed their T&C's to require a minimum deposit of $50 to be eligible for the $10 bonus.

    • -1

      This is (profanity) sneaky of Stake tbh - there was no mention that there was a minimum deposit when new users were within the first 24 hours.

    • Are you able to withdraw the $50 after the bonus is paid out?

      • +1

        Yes.

  • how come my comment with my referral link got deleted but other ppl can post theirs??

  • +1

    Just be careful with stake withdrawal issue . Still unable to withdraw money back due to emailed. pin verification issues that is ongoing.

  • Do I need to call up CBA to authorise the $50 bank transfer to make sure it gets there within 24 hours?

  • Lost all my bonus with their crazy FX fees - should have just redrew it. Moved to Superhero

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