Sabrent 1TB Rocket Q4 NVMe PCIe 4.0 M.2 2280 Internal SSD $179.99 Delivered @ Store4PC via Amazon AU

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MisterTree on 21/01/2022 - 22:19 amazon.com.au (388 clicks)
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Looks like all the NVMe Gen4 Sabrents have had a price drop and are now at near record low prices.

1TB QLC is $179.99 https://www.amazon.com.au/dp/B08F76V39T?th=1
2TB QLC is $330.69 https://www.amazon.com.au/dp/B08D29JQ24?th=1
4TB QLC is $750.20 https://www.amazon.com.au/dp/B08D28X4HW?th=1

1TB Rocket Extreme is $209.99 https://www.amazon.com.au/dp/B07TLYWMYW?th=1
2TB Rocket Extreme is $429.99 https://www.amazon.com.au/dp/B07TN1MNJ4?th=1

500GB is also available for those who are interested (seems overpriced to me).

$20 or $30 extra gets you the piped heatsink. I would think that this would be too tall for the PS5 but hopefully someone can confirm

For some reason the 4TB QLC is slightly cheaper with the heatsink.
https://www.amazon.com.au/dp/B08D2TC7DY?th=1

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  Gusper on 21/01/2022 - 22:27

  -5

  Slow

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    Brrrrt on 21/01/2022 - 22:59

    +1

    you can try finding us a faster pcie4.0 drive at this pricepoint. I will wait

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      netsurfer on 21/01/2022 - 23:37

      -1

      SN750 SE was cheaper before, if TLC is a must and sub $150 is also a must. Depends on whether you care more about SLC cache or sustained write speed.

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  MisterTree on 21/01/2022 - 22:33

  Some of these are sold by Amazon AU rather than Store4PC. I'm not sure if or how I should put that in the deal title?

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  Master Bates on 21/01/2022 - 22:48

  +1

  I believe these are one of the best heatsinks on the market, but yes too big for your PS5 unless you're running it without the EMI shield.

  I imagine the heatsink would act somewhat like an EMI shield, but I'm no expert.

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    Davesday on 22/01/2022 - 00:28

    Probably not since an EMI shield will need to be connected to ground of some kind.

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  raziel2001au on 21/01/2022 - 22:59

  +3

  Just a heads up for anyone eyeballing this for the PS5. The read speed 4.7-4.9 GB/s is below Sony’s recommended read speed of 5.5 GB/s. You may run into issues with some games deeper into the generation or could be SOL if Sony ever blocks drives that fail their speed test. Personally, I’d recommend sticking to drives that exceed Sony’s recommended spec for the PS5.

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    [Deactivated] on 21/01/2022 - 23:07

    +2

    Yeah the SN850 is also on sale for $219 on Amazon. That's a much safer bet.

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    netsurfer on 21/01/2022 - 23:42

    +1

    Honestly, if you are buying just 1TB for PS5, I don't really see a need to get a super duper one.

    Sony performs zero fill based sequential read test, so E16 controller based SSDs can benefit from such test (getting better than quoted speed, which is not zero fill). The main issue with this SSD is more that it is still too pricey as you are basically buying E16 controller with QLC NAND flash chips.

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  getit on 21/01/2022 - 23:59

  good and cheap for PS5

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  p1 ama on 22/01/2022 - 01:18

  +3

  For actual real world use, a PCIe 3.0 TLC drive (like the Samsung 970 EVO Plus) will be far, far better than this PCIe 4.0 QLC drive unless all you are doing is sequential reads which is a very unique use case.

  The most important metric is random performance at short queue depths, where the additional bandwidth of PCIe 4.0 will have no benefit at all. For sustained writes, TLC drives will usually have larger SLC provisioning and will have superior ongoing performance once the cache has been exceeded.

  Call me a skeptic, but for general PC use, I would rate this as basically indistinguishable from something like a Crucial P1 (~$120 for 1TB), and definitely worse than a 970 Evo Plus.

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    plmko on 22/01/2022 - 02:26

    +1

    That's not really true. You'll be surprised ion the real world that running Pcie4 ssds in a Pcie3 environment get's ever slightly faster speeds or better temperatures.

    I thought that was crazy from what I read around until I tested it and my TLC Pcie4 SSD is marginally faster than my MLC Samsung Evo 970 and temperatures are around 2 degrees lower in my laptop.

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      Italkdigital on 22/01/2022 - 07:15

      Just trying to confirm what your saying so a Pcie4 SSD would run better then a Pcie3 SSD in a motherboard that only supports Pcie3 ports so example an older mother board like a x470 chipset for AMD or what your saying is only for PS5? Interesting of the Pcie4 SSD runs faster in an older generation Pcie port

      Also nice price on the 2TB variant at $330

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        netsurfer on 22/01/2022 - 09:28

        It's complicated. The main problem is far too many people look at Crystal DiskMark figures. The PCIe gen 4 SSD controllers were released later (in general) so they tend to have more aggressive dynamic turbo writes (i.e. when the drive is empty or half filled, it will write more in SLC mode for longer).

        The best way to explain this is 970 Evo Plus, new vs old. The old batch has much better true NAND write speed, but the new batch has a newer controller but inferior TLC NAND. However, that new controller does far more dynamic turbo write than the old one. So, when the drive is not filled, the new one consistently outperforms the old one. So, for most people, the new batch "might" be better. Cheaper, better SLC cache, generally faster (unless you really love writing 200GB worth of large files to the SSD a lot). The new batch uses an SSD controller that's basically Samsung's PCIe gen 4 one, except with gen 4 mode disabled.

        A lot of mid range PCIe gen 4 SSDs actually have inferior NAND than the old 970 Evo Plus, in terms of sustained writes. However, most of us don't really care about that and more aggressive turbo writes and heavier use of SLC cache top benchmark charts and gets better reviews.

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          Italkdigital on 22/01/2022 - 11:27

          @netsurfer: Just asked cause I have an expensive Pcie4 SSD NVMe m.2 (Gigabyte AORUS 2tb) in my mother boards 2nd Nvme m.2 slot,. Which I think might actually be Pcie2 not Pcie3,. right? Why I asked about how the speeds would be fir my SSD Nvme m.2 drive?

          Honestly the only time I've ever noticed any big differences between any SSD I've owned being sata or nvme SSD, expensive or not is between my last mechanical spinning SATA boot drive, windows generally runs smooth with any SSD type and I'd have to sit down and do tests to see which of my SSD drives are the fastest to know if any differences, I have moved large files but large storage of movies etc but the size moved was 7 TB but of course they weren't stored on an of my SSD's, so transfer nearly took 20 hours

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        Nil Einne on 23/01/2022 - 04:09

        I've been looking into this recently and Newmaxx (an SSD expert who maintains a popular reference spreadsheet of specs) isn't a fan of the E16 drives even the TLC ones, let alone these QLC ones and definitely agrees the 970 EVO Plus is a better buy for nearly anyone. See e.g.:

        https://www.reddit.com/r/NewMaxx/comments/qm7lji/ssd_help_no…

        https://forums.anandtech.com/threads/%EF%83%98-samsung-970-e…

        https://linustechtips.com/topic/1147816-970-evo-plus-is-not-…

        (There are more posts where they offered their views, but I can't be bothered finding them all again and they pretty much say the same thing. The first thread assumed that the 2TB 970 Plus has had the controller and flash swap but it seems this is still unclear. However you can see from the other threads they fel pretty much the same even before the swap was an issue. Note that they also believe the 2TB would pretty much be universally better with the swap, unlike with the 1TB see e.g. https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapcsales/comments/s3ts9m/ssd_s… and https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapcsales/comments/ruy0wz/ssd_m… .)

        Others may disagree. Personally, I was considering getting an E16 TLC but think I have changed my mind after reading more in to it. I decided against a E16 QLC a while ago, definitely if it costs more than the 970 Plus, maybe if it was cheaper, IIRC there was one E16 QLC device ~$255 a few weeks ago, not available to me in NZ so didn't pay that much attention which compared to 970 Plus at $295 did seem interesting although IIRC the 970 Plus has been available at ~$275 recently (again mostly not available to me in NZ except possibly a brief period on Amazon AU in December that I missed, at least according to CamelCamelCamel). Of course if you need a device for a PS5 that's a different story.

        Note if getting for a laptop, the P31 is probably what you want and Australia is one of the few places you can get them at a decent price since amazon.com.au has them from Amazon US. Still a little more than the US but not that bad might not be worth the price premium depending on your laptop.

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      p1 ama on 22/01/2022 - 11:18

      I don't see how what you're saying contradicts anything I've said.

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  Make it so on 22/01/2022 - 02:04

  +2

  I have been buying the 4TB ones for work PC's that process huge image files. Especially about a year ago, these were the only ones with such high specs. Be mindful, in PCIe 4 mode, they need a heatsink. So get the model with heatsink, which is good value.

  Also note: this seller is actually the manufacturer. I looked up the address for the American Store4PC seller, and it's next-door to Sabrent. Hence the low factory-direct price.

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    Italkdigital on 22/01/2022 - 08:46

    +1

    Wish that theory applied to me as my property butts against bunnings 👍😁

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      [Deactivated] on 22/01/2022 - 09:22

      +2

      Ask them for the neighbour's special and if doesn't come forward dig a tunnel for your shopping needs. 😁

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        Italkdigital on 22/01/2022 - 11:17

        Dreamin 🤣🤑😝

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    [Deactivated] on 22/01/2022 - 09:23

    Agreed that if you are transferring large files and constantly stressing the SSD then you should get the heat sink BUT for general use there's no need for one.

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  Sleepycat3 on 22/01/2022 - 10:27

  Really makes no sense running QLC in a PCIe 4.0 drive…… I'd rather a 970 Evo Plus for a cheaper price too.