Can I Park More than The Street Sign Timeframe?

hasher22 on 20/01/2022 - 00:22
Last edited 20/01/2022 - 00:22

Sorry for the title, didn't know how to word it.

This street parking sign: https://ibb.co/7J5BqbM

I park at 12:30 pm and leave at 2:30 pm, I'm safe. But without moving my car, can I stay an extra 15 minutes?

I tried to google extended street parking, but maybe I couldn't find the right page.

The reason I ask, is I had a chat with a parking officer a few years ago and if people move their car on the same street to extend their free parking, they would still get fined and were told to move it to another street.

Poll Options

  • 86
    No
  • 18
    Yes, you can park for 2 hours and 15 minutes without moving your car
  • 1
    Yes, but move your car to a new car space
  • 4
    Yes, but you have to move your car to another street
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Comments

  • fantombloo on 20/01/2022 - 00:26
    +9

    With the four multiple choice answers this feels like a driving test question.

  • [Deactivated] on 20/01/2022 - 00:28
    +2

    I park at 12:30 pm and leave at 2:30 pm, I'm safe. But without moving my car, can I stay an extra 15 minutes?

    I would say its up to the council rangers discretion , the answer should be yes but logically speaking after the first 2 hours you should move your car.

    In other words if you don't have a mark on your tyres when you arrive to your car , its safe to assume you can stay for another 15 minutes before you have to move the car otherwise you risk a fine.

    its also safe to assume if you are in a zone which changes to a 15 minute time limit after a set time , there would be a high chance of rangers scouting the area like a hawk.

    • Euphemistic on 20/01/2022 - 05:46
      +6

      Do they still mark tyres? Thought that went out years ago.

      • pegaxs on 20/01/2022 - 07:45
        +2

        Going to say the same thing. Most rangers now use a hand held unit and just input your rego and it marks the time it was input, or some have numberplate scanners and they just drive past in a car and NPR picks up the plates and logs a timestamp. They drive around again after the allotted time has expired and the NPR just logs and infringement ticket or sends a messsage to a ranger in the area who walks over to the car and throws the ticket on the window.

      • Mokr on 20/01/2022 - 08:40
        +2

        I see markings in melb in pharhan. Still.

        They use diff colour chalk some of it is very faint.

        • pjetson on 20/01/2022 - 19:18

          pharhan

          I believe they may also still do it in Prahran.

      • pharkurnell on 20/01/2022 - 09:13
        +2

        Mitcham Vic and other areas have in ground sensors now that trigger when you park…

  • tight-ass on 20/01/2022 - 00:50

    I guess it varies with each council.

    The City of Perth parking inspectors have advised you can move your vehicle further down the same road providing it's past the next side street.

    • El cheepo on 20/01/2022 - 01:01

      I got stung in Cottesloe for 15 mins over in a 2 hour zone.
      I’d say its at the rangers discretion. Some might consider circumstances, some might not be bothered and just fine anyone they’ve chalked.

      Worst part for mine is, i got back a minute after the ticket was issued, gutted.

  • Zonty on 20/01/2022 - 00:58
    +1

    You can park same street but need drive around to wipe off their tyre mark. I believe that rules 2 hours for particular time once that finish start new rules15 min for another time frame. In short 1St rule will expired as soon new rule comes to live and Which will give you extra 15 min.
    Even you park at 1.00 pm you need move 2.45.

    • pegaxs on 20/01/2022 - 07:41
      +6

      They don’t mark tyres anymore. They log your rego on their computer and walk off. They walk back to the area after the allotted parking time + leeway and start scanning regos in again. If they get a match, it prints a ticket. (Maybe your council is stuck in the 80’s, but most use electronic tagging on vehicles now and not chalk.)

      The road rules say that after your parking time is done, you must remove the vehicle from that length of road. You can roll the car forward one parking space and think you get more time, but you don’t. I know people who have gone to a 2hour parking spot, parked, moved their car down 4 or 5 spaces and still copped a fine.

      There is a thread on here somewhere of a guy moving his car to the opposite side of the road and still got pinged for parking too long. Because he didn’t remove the vehicle from that length of road.

  • p1 ama on 20/01/2022 - 02:07
    +2

    The reason I ask, is I had a chat with a parking officer a few years ago and if people move their car on the same street to extend their free parking, they would still get fined and were told to move it to another street.

    Yes, because this is deliberately against the spirit of parking limits - the reason why a 2P exists is so that other people can also have a chance of parking there. If you're just going to move to another parking spot in the same compound or three cars down on the street, then the "net available" number of parking spaces does not change.

    Ultimately, the way I see it is that there's three answers to your question:

    1) The "what will happen in the real world" answer - regardless of what the sign says, the idea that you will be fined for staying 2h 15m in a 2h parking zone is highly unlikely, because that would imply that (i) the parking inspector came in the first 15 mins of you parking there to mark you, and (ii) the parking inspector came back within the last few minutes before you were leaving. E.g. if the parking inspector were to come 5 mins after you parked, they would also have to come again within the last 10 mins before you leave - this is very unlikely of course.

    2) The "what's the spirit of the law" answer - clearly you are trying to look for a loophole. If you're going around looking for loopholes, you will probably find them, sometimes you might succeed, other times you won't. However, it is clearly not within the "spirit" of the parking sign.

    3) The "what's the actual law" answer - what will a magistrate actually rule if you stayed for 2h 15m and got fined and chose to appeal? I don't know, but aside from curiosity (or unless there's any evidence this has actually happened before), I don't see this as something that's particularly interesting. In other words, there are an infinite number of such things that are not explicitly stated in statutes and have not yet been settled with case law.

    • Mokr on 20/01/2022 - 08:42
      +2

      But what if you park two hours drive for one hour and park in the same spot.

      How does the inspector know you just moved it down the road.

      • Euphemistic on 20/01/2022 - 08:45
        +1

        You’ll end up with a ticket and have to prove you went away for a drive.

    • Zephyrus on 20/01/2022 - 09:07

      1) is more likely than you think. If they timed themselves right, parking inspectors would come to 2 hour zones every 2 hours(maybe a couple of minutes more). If that was true, the odds of them coming shortly after you park is not that low (15 minutes would be a bit over 10%)

    • pharkurnell on 20/01/2022 - 09:25
      -1

      … because this is deliberately against the spirit of parking limits

      The spirit of parking limits? LOL

      • DashCam AKA Rolts on 20/01/2022 - 11:33
        +4

        The spirit of parking limits?

        The spirit intent of parking limits.

        • pegaxs on 20/01/2022 - 11:38
          +1

          The spirit intent of parking limits.

          The spirit intent vibe of parking limits.

  • Euphemistic on 20/01/2022 - 05:49

    I’m not sure, but I would test it out. You might get a fine and need to go to court and get it waived - waste of time.

    • Euphemistic on 20/01/2022 - 07:49
      +1

      *wouldn’t test is out.

  • pegaxs on 20/01/2022 - 07:26

    How can it be “yes, but move it to another street”?? Moving it to another street would be a no, you can’t leave it there.

    I’m going to vote no, because from 12:30 to 2:30 is 2 hours and the time for that parking is 2 hours. I would say that you are bound by the conditions of when you started parking there. If your 2 hours are up, they are up.

    Now, the issue here is, let’s say you get there at 12.40. At 2,30 you have only stayed for 1:50 mins and your 2 hours ends at 2:40. I would say you would be entitled to stay at least until 2:40, as that was the allotted time from the 2h parking, but does not go over the 15min zone.

    Let’s look at it another way. If you got there at 2:25. Do you think you can park there for the next 2 hours? The extra 15mins could only be used to finish any left over time you have outstanding. It wouldn’t give you an extra 15min (ie: 2h15m) but could be used to finish off remaining time left from the 2h if you didn’t get there at 12:30. (ie: arrived at 12:43, leave at 2:43) and you couldn’t just use up your 2h if you go there at say 1:30, you would have to leave at 2:45.

  • c64 on 20/01/2022 - 07:50
    +1

    call in the bikies to "look after your car" and you can park for as long as you wish

  • djones145 on 20/01/2022 - 08:08

    i you are asking, yep you will get fined

    if you saw someone else parking nope they wont get fined….

    i've seen people park in no stopping, clear ways, nothing

    once i park somewhere, ranger jumps out of the bushes to mark my tires or start the timer!

  • Islund on 20/01/2022 - 08:18
    +4

    yes you can park there.

    You will get fined though.

  • SF3 on 20/01/2022 - 08:36
    +1

    Can I Park More than The Street Sign Timeframe?
    This street parking sign: https://ibb.co/7J5BqbM

    Yes

    Mon-Fri After 6pm and Before 7am.
    Sat-Sun all day.

  • Ryanek on 20/01/2022 - 08:40

    This is actually a really good question.

    If the ranger snapped your car parked at 12:30pm and again at 2:45pm, I would think you've exceeded your original parking contract of 2 hours and is thus liable for a fine.

    Or… does the ranger only enforce violations after 2:45pm? Interesting.

  • Typical16-bitEnjoyer on 20/01/2022 - 08:51
    +5

    You sure can stay parked for longer than 2 hours for the low, low price of $116.

  • Mokr on 20/01/2022 - 08:56

    When moving your car to another parking spot, you must move it out of the area or length of road controlled by the parking sign.

    The parking time limits on the sign only apply during the times shown. Outside of those times, you can park with no restrictions, unless there are other signs saying you can't.

    To me if you didn't exceed you fine.

    But again wouldn't trust it.

    Also thought you needed to leave the road. When you don't if the restrictions change

  • pharkurnell on 20/01/2022 - 09:14
    +2

    But without moving my car, can I stay an extra 15 minutes?

    Is this a trick question?? Am I reading it wrong?

    New leader of FSQOTY

  • 87percent on 20/01/2022 - 09:35

    what a stupid parking sign though

    • p1 ama on 20/01/2022 - 10:08
      +2

      How is it stupid? It's basically saying that during the times where there's peak traffic (e.g. 7am - 9am, and 2.30pm - 6pm), you can only park for 15 mins, whereas during the day out of those peak times, you can park for 2 hours, and there's no restrictions at any other time.

      Sounds completely normal to me?

  • GG57 on 20/01/2022 - 10:10

    If you discount that there may be sensors that would capture your arrival time, parking inspectors can only assume that you arrived at the time they first viewed your vehicle. You have 2 hours from that time.
    Some areas have a designated 'area' on the signs, and you cannot exceed that time limit anywhere within that 'area'.

    Of course, you can park there all day if you wanted to, but I think you actually want to know if you can park longer and avoid a fine???

  • Seraphin7 on 20/01/2022 - 10:27

    Realistically, you probably can get 2h15 out of it if you think about how the fine would need to written up and how these things are enforced.

    That said, if you park at 12.29pm, your two hours runs out at 2.29pm … not withstanding leniency, etc., you could theoretically get done at that point in time. I would be very surprised if anyone that parked between 12.30pm and 12.45pm and left between 2.30pm and 2.45pm would get stung.

  • Archi on 20/01/2022 - 11:36

    yes on a saturday and sunday

  • JIMB0 on 20/01/2022 - 12:28

    You'd probably get away with parking from 5:45pm to 7:15am

  • Drakesy on 20/01/2022 - 12:36

    lolwut
    But you make an interesting point
    legally? no as you haven't moved the car (i believe the key is you have to shift spots or leave the space open for 15/1 hour can't remember what exactly)
    Realistically? Yes anyone can park more than the allocated parking timeframe, it just may result in a fine.

  • mrkorrupt on 20/01/2022 - 13:04

    Yes, you can park for 2 hours and 15 minutes without moving your car, as long as you prove that you parked at or after 12:30:01pm (dashcam with GPS), no parking inspector will be marking cars @ 12:30pm in that area as there wont be enough time to come back 2 hours later to check.

    eg. they can mark cars up to 12:29pm, they can return and check those marked cars, cars marked after 12:30 have not exceeded the 2hours prior to 2:30 and therefore, start the 15 mins from 2:30pm

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