Tossing up Rav4 or Something Else?

billybrown on 18/01/2022 - 14:15

Don't mind the current wait on new cars.

Considering the Rav4 Edge Hybrid AWD. $58k new. Only drawback we found was that the visibility from the driver seat isn't the best. The dashboard is quite high.

Wondering if people have any thoughts on if there are better options for the same price range.

Considering Kia Sportage, Hyundai Santa Fe, Mitsubishi Outlander.

Key considerations are reliability, low maintenance and features (that's why we chose the highest model of the rav range). Would be our car for the next 10 years.

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        • sobriety22 on 20/01/2022 - 18:12

          Colleague is in this exact situation, been waiting nearly 12 months. Dealer called him to say he's getting MY22 now, it is an additional $2,500. He'll be paying up.

          • oblivianz on 20/01/2022 - 18:39

            @sobriety22: Damn.. Toyota definitely needs a national queue system instead of allocating varying numbers of vehicles to each dealership every month.

            Good news is that Toyota themselves will give you an estimate date for the vehicle delivery through the Web tracking site with the release of MY22.

    • bbinc on 22/01/2022 - 15:58

      Also in the same kayak

  • ankor on 20/01/2022 - 09:49
    +1

    Is it worthwhile sinking $50-60k into any form of petrol vehicle, even a hybrid rav4 when EVs are on the cusp of becoming more affordable in the next 3-5 years?

    I'm not so keen on having to buy/trade cars every few years to keep up to date with things.

    I'm pretty confused about this, would love to hear other people's ideas on the subject.

    • uder on 20/01/2022 - 10:22

      Add the covid situation and current shortages, inflated second hand market and it is a pretty difficult time to buy a car.

      I ended up with a Sportage which I pick up this week and I ordered last week of Dec. I needed something by Feb. Otherwise I'd be waiting for a Rav4 hybrid. Considered Model 3 but a big thing for is transporting prams/kid's bikes and the SUV cargo is just better for those bulky items. Sportage gives me a good 543L and I'm spending under 40k driveaway. I will probably sell it in a couple of years if there are more electric/hybrid options and will take a hit on depreciation - but it's kinda unavoidable.

    • oblivianz on 20/01/2022 - 10:25

      There also needs to be a change for accessibility to charging infrastructures. EVs sounds appealing but a con may be limiting long trips due to no access to charging, especially if it is the only vehicle a family has.

      • ankor on 20/01/2022 - 23:59

        I'd everyone starts driving Ev and it takes 15-30mon for a decent charge, then we're going to need many more ev charging stations too!

        I think that and the posts about the hybrid fuel economy will be enough for me. Off to pay that deposit then!!

  • iknowtj on 20/01/2022 - 11:06

    I drive a Rav4 on the regular for work.

    Ended up with a Tiguan instead - find it much more comfortable for long road trips.

    You mentioned the you do those - I get sore legs in the Rav4 after a while.

    Beyond that it is a capable thing - does what it's meant to do well.

  • ntt on 20/01/2022 - 12:16

    I'm waiting for Vinfast, it looks sleek

  • duckygun on 20/01/2022 - 13:08
    +1

    Chasing cars just did a review and ranked them.

    https://youtu.be/C5252Bu9cGU

    Tl;dw is: 1) Rav4 Hybrid 2) Tiguan 3) Forester Honourable mention) CX5

  • VincentNL on 20/01/2022 - 15:20

    https://youtu.be/C5252Bu9cGU - Chasing Cars do a great segment on the best mid sized SUV

  • Smol Cat on 20/01/2022 - 17:25

    On a similar note, what do people think of the Tiguan R that’s due to arrive April? Expected to be just under $80K drive away I believe.

    Like it, don’t like it? Poor value/high yield investment? I’m looking to get a fun family car that I can sort of have a mid life crisis with.

  • Make it so on 20/01/2022 - 17:44
    +1

    Been through similar exercise recently. It may depend on how you use the car. I would consider a Forester, because:

    • Made in Japan
    • Very good safety
    • Many reviewers consider it far more capable of going off-road than others in the same class. Its AWD system seems to be more effective, and it has more ground clearance (220mm) than the alternatives (in fact, that's as much ground clearance as a Prado, though the latter is obviously better for off-road)
    • Some of the good features, like AWD, LED headlights, etc. come standard - no need to go for the top model
    • You don't pay extra for certain colour options
    • Ride quality compares favourably in reviews
  • dtc on 20/01/2022 - 22:20

    It honestly hard to think of a more practical car than the Outback. Admittedly its not the most fuel efficient (although it uses 91 so thats a good saving) nor the highest powered, but it just nails everything else you would want in a practical family car. Space, visability, comfort, ease of use, spare tyre, roof rack (isnt perfect but works for 98% of uses), quiet.

    If you want something more fun, see if you can find a Skoda Superb 4x4 sportsline (current model). Yes you may have to bend your knees to get in

  • denzel on 21/01/2022 - 01:36
    +1

    Rav4 hybrids are a step ahead of its competitors at this point in time. You won't go wrong with it

  • jefflang007 on 21/01/2022 - 07:18

    I would seriously look at the soon to come Haval H6 hybrid. The specks are fantastic. It has a ton of power and you get loads of extras that you simply won’t get with anything else for the price. Drive a standard petrol in the Ultra, you will be suitably impressed.

  • Skramit on 21/01/2022 - 07:18
    +1

    Check out the Skoda Kodiaq. For $56k we got one fully loaded with all the packs and a sunroof. Much nicer interior than the rav4

    • hashtagbargain on 22/01/2022 - 09:39

      More like $66k for the style 4x4 with all the packs, 7 yrs service package and sunroof, but still great value. Got to mention it’s got 7 seats. Plus it’s getting a refresh for MY22!

      • Skramit on 22/01/2022 - 10:13

        That’s rrp. I got my style 4 months ago for $56. Negotiation plays a part…

        • hashtagbargain on 22/01/2022 - 12:52

          Prices have gone up this year. You don’t get that pricing sadly. Given the lack of supply, and months of wait there’s not much leverage unless you buy a demo model.

  • djmm on 21/01/2022 - 08:07

    That price range I'd much rather have VW Tiguan or Volvo XC40.

  • Thazza on 21/01/2022 - 11:14

    Try a Ford Escape.

    I got one - the Vignale. Has a very spirited drive to it.

  • JFFTech on 21/01/2022 - 14:00

    If you're after a Hybrid SUV, then there's no worthwhile competitor to RAV4 in this price segment. If you're not particular about Hybrid, then you can certainly consider the new Tuscon or Sportage. RAV4 is bigger and more spacious than both these models. If you need a 7 seater or a bigger car, then SantaFe or Kia Sorrento would be my choice.

  • sub7er on 21/01/2022 - 15:38

    Get the haval h6 hybrid and save 15k

  • striker5950 on 21/01/2022 - 20:27

    there really isn't anything better that ticks all the boxes, there is a reason the rav4 cruiser hybrid (top spec) is the best selling SUV in Australia right now.

  • mdavant on 22/01/2022 - 05:00

    Holy bejebus that is expensive for a rav 4. I am so out of touch.

    • chartparker on 22/01/2022 - 06:41

      No. It's the children who are wrong

      • tonyjzx on 28/02/2022 - 01:24

        the Edge top of the line 2.5 is very expensive but the Toyota RAV4 is the gold standard so of course they will ask more than you'd pay for a 'lesser' Japanese or Korean model.

        If you are perceived by the public to be the best then you can charge the most.

        • Euphemistic on 28/02/2022 - 08:58

          Especially no discounts when you have a wait list of up to 12 months.
          Discounts are for stuff they can’t sell at full price.

  • findthatbargain on 27/02/2022 - 18:51
    +1

    How'd you go with this?

    If you are in Melbourne there are few dealerships that got 2022 rav4 edge, which will be available in late April, so you don't have to wait. But you'll have to stick with whatever the colour options they got. I believe these are canceled orders. I managed to grab one in black this Saturday.

    They definitely wouldn't do any better with the price though as they got so much demand on these unless you are really good at negotiation/convincing.

    • galaxiers on 12/03/2022 - 12:06
      +1

      I am on the save boat, how much the price for Edge in Mel? In Syd I got quote 58K

      • findthatbargain on 16/03/2022 - 14:58

        Same-ish, but I think there was a small ($380) price hike recently. When did they say they can get it for you?

      • JownehFixIT on 17/03/2022 - 13:03

        $58k for the privilege of still buying fuel?! Jeez Louise! Just stay on the save boat for another year and buy the Toyota bZ4X with its stupid name and more stupid price-tag, or go an EV6, if you can even get one of the 500 or so per year Kia are bothering to allocate here. I can't believe "normal" vehicles can cost almost $60k and people are still perplexed that EVs cost about that much.

        The fuel savings alone could easily be $2000+ depending on KM travelled per year, especially the higher petrol prices increase.

        https://www.carsguide.com.au/ev/advice/do-electric-cars-actu…
        "According to Australia’s Electric Vehicle Council, powering an EV is around 70 per cent cheaper compared to a car with an internal-combustion engine powered by petrol or diesel, saving EV drivers, on average, $1600 in fuel costs each year."

        I bothered adding up a year's worth of fuel bills from owning a relatively efficient i30 Diesel MY2010 and we had paid over $2000 that year for diesel. Only takes 5 years and you've saved $10,000 on fuel. Costs us $2 to charge 28kwh Hyundai Ioniq Electric between 12am and 4am weekdays with Powershop time of use tariff too (about 200km range let's say). So that's 15000km a year (we drive less, but anyway) divided by 200km is 75. 75 x $2 is $150 to charge the car for a year. Yes it's charging from the big bad dirty grid at midnight to 4am (all the more reason for more renewables and mussiv batteries like in SA), it's still less polluting over its lifetime:
        https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/when-d…

        And with the rosiest coloured glasses: https://thedriven.io/2019/12/09/are-evs-cleaner-than-ice-coa…

        Unfortunately demand will almost certainly outdo supply in both/all cases for the near future. But after owning an EV for 3 years now, not once running out of range, despite our daily commute being a 60km round trip to daycare-work-daycare-home•, I can gladly report it is the best vehicle I've ever owned, and I'm lucky my use case means I will never need or want another combustion engine vehicle again.

        • In Australia, the average commuting distance people travelled from their place of usual residence was 16.0 kilometres (km). Around 7.4 million people (or 73% of employed people over the age of 15 years) commuted a distance of less than 20 km to work. (https://www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/[email protected]/mf/2071.0.55.001)

  • CRS34 on 28/03/2022 - 13:07

    Subaru forester and outback is also worth considering.

    Nissan is also coming out with a new x trail later this year (huge improvement over the current model).

    • Euphemistic on 31/03/2022 - 14:27

      Unless it’s electric or hybrid it won’t be a huge improvement, just incremental. More of the same with a different shape and some more complex electronics.

      • CRS34 on 31/03/2022 - 15:42

        yeah, i was mainly talking about interior. and the aesthetics. not sure what engine configurations it is coming out with

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