Cheapest price so far for the Toshiba MG08 series.
Toshiba 16TB Enterprise MG08ACA16TE 7200RPM 3.5" Hard Drive $490.60 Delivered @ Newegg
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Agreed. Weigh up whether you save a $$$ per drive compared to a local equivalent (with similar 550TB workload and 2.5m MTBF hours) with warranty as opposed to sending the drive back overseas for warranty repair and replacement at your cost. Sadly NewEgg makes the latter harder compared to other overseas vendors with a small window.
Toshiba is particularly bad since you cannot RMA them. At least with WD or Seagate you can mail them back yourself.
Any advice about where/what is worth checking out for something cheap a good size to hold data for a Plex server full of stuff I don’t care about replacing if I have to? Would prefer not to have a shit fight over hardware warranties - but I’m not putting important data on it.
Shuck some WD external hard drives.
Don't even need to shuck them, Plex storage works just fine from USB drives 👍
Every now and then you can get great prices on clearance external drives from officeworks, usually local to that store and isn't shown online. Shoulda bought more last time I was in there.
Open to other suggestions for places that sell them cheap too though if anyone has any?
Is this a good price?
Personally I'd get a 14TB WD elements likely a Hitachi Helio drive $396
For an Enterprise NAS drive with a higher (better) workload, MTBF, etc its a good price and the best price this drive has been on OZBargain.
“Enterprise Capacity” hmm
For those sole traders
my workplace has 8TB RAID 1 on their NAS. I have 24+ TB on my NAS at home. Enterprise capacity can be a lot less than what video hoarders have on their home systems.
To be honest from 10 years ago, in 2022 I was expecting 500TB hard drives for $199. But saying that…10 years ago, I also didn't expect an equivalent high end $499 video card to be $3000.
I think there was a flood in some HDD plants that kept prices fairly flat through the last 10 years.
10 year flood. Biblical!
This is due to the rise of cryptocurrencies. Video cards are inflated because you can mine profitably with them, hence the market price goes up as a result.
No way!
How would you explain how I can sell a 1080ti for a profit after mining with it for 3 years?
Why do you think graphics cards have increased so much in price?
@abjsdhasehasee: Wait for what? I bought 20 3080s back in 2021 for $1600-1700 each (non-LHR), if I waited, its over $2000 even for the LHR version now.
And no, I ain't gaming with them haha. They've all paid for themselves and I'm getting pure profit every hour, every day. :D This is why graphics card prices are so high.
@techlead: it was all sarcasm, me and 9839002 were just trolling cause 99.999% of people know thats why the prices are high
@abjsdhasehasee: lol, you got me, abit hard to detect sarcasm via text.
All good. Haha
Everything is expensive, I'm shopping around for a TV, the good ones are all $5+ and so many are over $10k, its insane! Consequences of the printer going brrrrrr.
Feel the same way. Hard drives seem to have mostly hit a wall in price per TB, although SSDs have come down a lot.
Video cards are stupidly priced due to cryptocurrency, I wonder what the ratio of people using them for crypto vs gaming is.
Oddly enough though, with the exception of VR you don't really need particularly high end video card anyway unless you're using a 4k monitor. Most AAA games are just remakes and incremental sequels to older games (12 Assasin's Creed games, 19 COD games, 12 Battlefield games) with all the novel stuff being indy which can run on a 10 year old PC. Not to mention the death of most of the non-console friendly gaming genres (Eg RTS).
It's not a particularly great time for gaming.
Reckon that the focus and research has been more on SSD storage than HDDs lately.
RAM has also hit a bit of a wall too imo, a lot more focus on chips for mobile phones with an aim towards power consumption more than increase in size/performance.
Even internal phone storage hasn't significantly increased. Sure there isn't many phones with 16-32GB storage around anymore. But it hasn't blown up to 500GB as a standard.
I think that's probably the case (ssd vs hdd). Eg now ssd are standard on even relatively cheap laptops. For the average user as well, the rise in streaming and the ability to download games from distribution platforms has reduced the need for massive amounts of storage.
@Ezuku: Yep and think we're only gonna rely on the network more as time goes on. Cloud storage seems to be switching towards SSDs a lot now, in comparison to HDDs.
Hopefully our internet will keep page and we'll be able to enjoy gigabit speed in more homes within the next decade.
Newegg can be god awful to deal with support wise, i had a problem with my order that was entirely their fault. I'll never order from them again.
This would certainly up the NAS density, but would suck for rebuilding post failure.
Oof
yup.. and the problem with greater capacity HDDs is there is also a greater chance of SMART failure
I remember reading an article saying that 8TB-10TB disks are about the max size you want for any sort of RAID rebuild due to time to rebuild.
you can kinda get away with RAID6, maybe RAID10, but RAID5 is straight up insanity at those sizes.
If had 10tb of non-crucial Linux iso's I wanted a full backup to avoid a full redownload (let's say, monthly backup is plenty). Is there much benefit to RAID10 for read/write or would it be just as simple to copy across incremental deltas via JBOD and keep the backup drive mostly powered off?
Yeah I'm running 8x8tb drives currently. Haven't had to rebuild for 5 years or so. Expecting a failure sometime soon.
The usual caveats about Newegg warranties on OEM drives apply. Caveat emptor.