I found this router almost half price, I have never tested it so I cannot give my opinion, has someone tried connecting it with NBN?
Huawei WS7200 WIFI AX3 Wireless AX3000 Router $79 + Shipping / $0 Pickup @ Scorptec
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LPCMasterPig on 07/01/2022 - 19:15 scorptec.com.au (805 clicks)
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Route traffic via firewall, or just don't buy routers from a Chinese company.
That is the free cloud backup service
will they backup my weird prawn collections? around 5 TB
Or their masters?..
Let's take it from a different angle: do you have anything the Chinese would be interested? I would say for most of us, we don't. But if you do, the Americans would be interested too. I'm actually not sure if Huawei is spying on us, but I'm pretty sure the Americans do.
I used to work for huawei a few years ago. They are pretty dodgy and had been found guilty of hiding weird code and having backdoors on their equipment. Wouldnt be surprised if they still do
I worked with ZTE and its true for them too. People in their HQ had unlimited access.
(This wasnt in Oz though)@PCMasterPig: I worked for large telecommunications operator. Access to each and everything that anyone was doing
Yeah, I remember that infamous port23 telnet backdoor! Shame on them! Oh wait, I still waiting for the story from the Cisco since they got more…doors
They blatantly copy pasted the firmware on their original products from Nortel when starting out to get in the market. Running certain commands also produced Nortel graphics.
They are a dodgy company endorsed and push forward by the CCP. Even if you don’t think you are a target I would not consider them a trustworthy company. Especially when buying a device from them through which my entire online life flows. It’s not worth it to save $50.
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To save $50? Buddy who are you going to go to? Everyone is spying on everyone, and everyone is stealing everyones cookie recipe.
“Collect It All”: Glenn Greenwald on NSA Bugging Tech Hardware, Economic Espionage & Spying on U.N.
“A Massive Surveillance State”: Glenn Greenwald Exposes Covert NSA Program Collecting Calls, Emails
Whistleblower: The NSA Is Lying–U.S. Government Has Copies of Most of Your Emails
Exposed: Inside the NSA’s Largest and Most Expansive Secret Domestic Spy Center in Bluffdale, Utah
Permanent Record: Why NSA Whistleblower Edward Snowden Risked His Life to Expose Surveillance State
China is by no means the leader in state surveillance, and stealing other nations technologies, the first prize for that goes to the US.
BTW didn't neg ya.
@Wystri Warrick: I am totally aware that everyone could be spying on you. My choice is not to cheap out on a Chinese router whose parent company is linked to the CCP. $50 extra can get you any kind of base tier router from a brand of nationality of your choice. One that you may trust more, even if for ethical reasons.
I’m not sure why that is such a surprising opinion when there are many other options out there and this is something you will keep for years.
Article on Huawei/Nortel IP Theft - https://www.afr.com/technology/how-chinese-hacking-felled-te…
Feel free to find a news vendor of choice to confirm this story. It’s well documented.
@JSONBourne: Dude it's not "could be spying on you." please read those articles I posted. Also, read check out the Snowden leaks, Wikileaks etc.
The US hacked into a German company that manufactures almost all SIM cards to gain the SIM card encryption keys so as to gain access to billions of smartphones around the world. The Windows operating system is comprised, it has backdoors and the NSA can gain full access to every Windows computer. Even the firmware for HDDs contains malware from the NSA. Literally the list goes on and on and on. The US's goal is global mass surveillance from every device.
Lastly, Assange was placed on a terrorist list, the same list as Ben Laden. What did Assange do? He created a organisation that publishes the truth….I'd rather China be spying and ticked off with me than the US and it's allies, because it's very unlikely that Australia would hand me (or anyone who China was ticked off with) to China. The US on the other hand? Well when the US says jump it's allies say how high.
I’m not sure why that is such a surprising opinion when there are many other options out there and this is something you will keep for years.
What do you mean other options out there? There are none - didn't you have at least just a quick read of the articles I sent you???
I certainly am not against the possibility that Chinese electronics could be compromised, and Chinese company's/government steal others IP, however I'd like to see evidence to back it up, not opinions, politics and denounceations without supporting evidence.
Lastly, no where did I contest the Huawei/Nortel IP theft…. I made a point that there's no other company's to buy devices from because they are all compromised by the US, and the ones that aren't are compromised by China. Like I said "Everyone is spying on everyone, and everyone is stealing everyones cookie recipe."@Wystri Warrick: As someone who works on the fringes of cybersecurity but deep in digital cloud integration I’m very very aware. Why do you think I have a problem with Huawei and Xiaomi devices? I know everyone is spying on everyone. I’m concerned about them being an apparatus of a foreign security service contrary to Australia’s interests. At the end of the day if any security service wants in to your network, they will get in. But that’s different to leaving the front door open through your buying choices.
No doubt the NSA has their fingers in Cisco/Juniper/other western equipment as well. But to your ultimate point I would rather not purchase from companies deeply in bed with the CCP, a party whose interests clearly do not lie with Australia. At least the other options are from democratic countries who are allied, in your eyes perhaps the lesser of 2 evils even if you see all as compromised?
If you trust no-one, any kind of device with Open-WRT is at least more transparent. Going further if you don’t trust your hardware, run some BYO hardware and pfsense.
As someone who works on the fringes of cybersecurity but deep in digital cloud integration I’m very very aware. Why do you think I have a problem with Huawei and Xiaomi devices? I know everyone is spying on everyone. I’m concerned about them being an apparatus of a foreign security service contrary to Australia’s interests. At the end of the day if any security service wants in to your network, they will get in. But that’s different to leaving the front door open through your buying choices.
Sure, sure that's what everyone on the internet says - I'm an expert etc…….
The US isn't just putting everyone under surveillance to prevent terrorism (terrorism is really just a guise). It's goal is complete and total mass surveillance to find any sceptics, whistleblowers, economic espionage, and and yes terrorism.
No doubt the NSA has their fingers in Cisco/Juniper/other western equipment as well. But to your ultimate point I would rather not purchase from companies deeply in bed with the CCP, a party whose interests clearly do not lie with Australia. At least the other options are from democratic countries who are allied, in your eyes perhaps the lesser of 2 evils even if you see all as compromised?
Actually yes, I've read a a few articles from democracy now that Cisco electronics contain malware. Also, the US intelligence agencies intercept electronics in the post, open it, flash it with malware, re shrink package it up and send it on its way.
Honestly dude, read some of the Snowden leaks, and Wikileaks.Every single US and European electronics IT company is in bed with the NSA, CIA, and GCHQ, and the ones that aren't have been hacked into by said agencies, and their packages intercepted in the post to flash malware and then re shrink wrap the items.
Honestly your not safe from any company from any country - even if they are from W "democratic county"…. If I had to take a choice it would be china as I know no matter how many times I visit Wikileaks China won't give a shit (as far as I'm aware China and Russia aren't monitoring who visits Wikileaks), and when if I do do something to piss China off I'm safe from being deported to China, Australia would never give me up. However if I was an Australian would Australia give me up to the US? PLEASE JUST LOOK AT JULIAN ASSANGE AND EDWARD SNOWDEN…..
If you trust no-one, any kind of device with Open-WRT is at least more transparent. Going further if you don’t trust your hardware, run some BYO hardware and pfsense.
Already know about OpenWRT, and pfsense. Actually tens of not hundred of millions of people know about those, however not everyone knows how to set them up.
Honestly they's nothing that I'm doing that's ticking off the West or China/Russia so I have nothing to worry about, they aren't interested in me - China is to concerned about censoring and controlling throw own population to be bothered with me, and Russia is so stupid they are asking telcos to work with them so they can intercept telecommunications….. And the US, well I'm not playing any part nor exposed any of their war crimes, human rights abuses or atrocities so I have nothing to worry about…..
Pretty much this. How many degrees of separation do I have from my own government coming to screw me, the American government coming to screw me, or the Chinese government coming to screw me?
If the CIA wanted me disappeared, the Australian government wouldn't so much as lift a finger to help. They probably gave over the intel in the first place. If the CCP wanted me gone, they'd probably have to kidnap me or assassinate me on Australian soil.
I dont know what reasons for the US government or CIA or CCP to come after you.
But here are a few articles of CCP's involvement in Australia.
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2019/nov/25/asio-…
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-08-10/drew-pavlou-case-dism…I will be interested to read more on CIA or US government's meddling in Australia.
@Scrooge: Not to mention Huawei being banned from our 5G networks due to the ability to silently exfiltrate data. Buying a Huawei router is the same risk on a personal level.
@JSONBourne: Rightio Ding Chavez
Could you please advise us on some hardwar3z that cannot be silently exfiltrated?@h0mbre: Since you don’t believe me - https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/05/photos-of-an-nsa…
Buy from a brand of your choice, or build a box with your own hardware. I’m not an obsessive security nut, I just buy regular hardware from brands I trust. Each to their own.
They may not be interested, but that doesnt mean I am going to give it to them.
Are you happy to use me as your VPN provider 100% of the time?
Imagine if it sends all your browsing history to adult websites to its manufacturer… the horror!
It's horror enough to know you were made to imagine this way.
Have you heard of Snowden?
That communist working for ze Russian's?
Looks pretty good. Especially at that money. Don't see why it would not work with nbn
Not sure if it works as a modem too
Router only.
Nbn provide modem already. Only need a device that can pass auth
nbn don't provide a modem for FTTN and FTTB.
nbn provide a NTD for FTTP, HFC and FW and a NCD for FTTC.
Does the NTD works as a modem?
The NTD used on nbn FTTP is a Optical Network Terminal (ONT) that converts fibre to ethernet. It is not a modem.
The NTD used on nbn HFC is a DOCIS 3.1 modem.
NTD, NTU, modem ….call it what you like ……it delivers and ethernet port that routers can work with from the “media (copper, fibre, coax)” that the NBN delivers to your home.
the hand off to consumer is a copper ethernet port by the NBN .
yes i do know that a modem does encoding/ decoding, but for “ home users” the NBN delivers an easy non technical hand off so that the average person can but a router and attach it to a copper ethernet port
I bought it from scorptech a few weeks ago. Would not recommend, poor Wi-Fi 6 signal strength, constantly communicates with overseas server. I blocked that and obviously can't access to it through the app. It does not worth $80. My fair price would be below $20.
How do you know it communicates with an overseas server?
Pi-hole can tell you, or any kind of upstream pfsense server if that’s your thing. All my mi devices are chatty and ping a lot of random domains for QQ and Baidu/ other services.
I run them on a guest network for that reason, although even that isn’t really fully siloed.
What Mi devices do you have?
I use Untangle NG Firewall amf multiple ways to see it ie. from traffic log and geo locations of requests in and out.
how to check if it communicates with oversea server?
That's interesting. You want to access the router with the App but do not wish it to communicate with its server…
And I'm surprised to see complaints about its WIFI. Don't take me wrong. I don't recommend it neither. I have AX3 Pro and the only thing was really about stability.
Have you tried changing the settings for the DHCP to stop changing the IPs every certain amount of time?
Has nothing to do with IP. The symptom was that it disappeared from the network randomly. I could not really figure out a pattern.
But I have geo blocking configured and don't want packets in/out from certain geo locations to minimise cyber risk.
He didn't buy it from Scorptec, he bought some junk from some fake place called Scorptech. Seriously, people leaving reviewing without backing are just internet troll.
Do I need to post my proof of purchase?
$20?
You must be real stingy.
Looks like JW, wireless 1, Kogan and dicksimth are all selling at the same price as well. I might buy from Kogan as I have $20 credit with them.
Save the money for something else. I've Ax3 Pro and unfortunately, it's very very unstable.
I want a asus rt ac/ax86u .but ac is 3 times the price and ax is 7 times.
I am currently using a ten year old billion 7800n…Billion is really good. How come they are out of the market?
@Euthyphro: They seem to have a couple of new routers but none can make me pull the trigger any more.
Well, you narrowly missed a deal of Asus AX6000 for just below $200.
I bought Ax3 Pro to replace my 7800vdox, which turned out to be quite disappointing so I bit the bullet and went for Asus AX88U.
The funny thing was the 7800vdox used to be rock solid but after I retired it as a router and reconfigured it as dedicated ATA it lost almost all configs just weeks later. It seemed to be the exact problem lots people complained.@[Deactivated]: Is ASUS RT-AC68U comparable to Asus AX6000? ASUS RT-AC68U has the best reviews on https://www.productreview.com.au/c/modems-routers
@Euthyphro: I might have mixed things up. It was actually AX5400. But nonetheless it's still much better than AC68U. When you can, go for AX or Wifi6 devices, they are much better and up to date, you won't need to update for the next a couple of years at least. AX88U is AX6000 actually. I can hardly push the CPU usage to 5% which is obviously an over kill but yeah, I don't have to worry about when would my router disappear from the network any more.
https://www.amazon.com.au/ASUS-802-11ax-Accelerator-Adaptive…
Are these basically plug and play with nbn, ie network cable to the NCD and you're done?
Depends on the RSP you choose. If you are with RSPs require VLAN tagging on WAN, e.g. TPG, this will not work.
Looks like I've got some acronyms to research
I think you can configure the Vlan by yourself
Wifi signal strength quite weak compared to the Chinese version. But Chinese version can't do vlan tagging.
Huawei has been banned to get the latest chips for two more years, I can not image Huawei have any good product now.
The routers do not need flagship chips, pretty sure Huawei can have a decent chip designed by themselves like the Kirins.
if you look at the amount of R&D huawei spend each year and number of patents they lodge each year, there aren’t any other tech companies even Cisco, in their league, hence they had 5G kit early in the cycle while many US manufactures were catching up and are at the forefront of 6G …..
china is some areas is a developing market as they bring connectivity to rural areas, so they have a big market for themselves and not too much legacy infrastructure holding them back vs US, where most people,e have had internet and phone coverage for much longer than rural areas of china ….look at australia, most farms and houses had a copper phone from the PMG / Telecom days of copper, and so we try and use that copper hence fibre vs copper NBN saga to re-use what was in the ground, rural china people didn’t have phones on copper from that era, hence more 4G /5G and fibre as people get connected and china is making this stuff for themselves and then selling to others
Right, Guardian referring to Bloomberg. After the SuperMicro drama, I cannot trust anything from Bloomberg any more.
Bloomberg was insulting our intelligence. Anyone who has the experience of layout an PCB, doesn't matter how simply the PCB can be, would have known how hard it's to finish the initial layout. And after that, any changes might result re-layout the whole board or adding jumpers. So unless there was no verification at all, there was no way the alleged alteration was not detected. Also, just look at the alleged device, to me it looks like a ceramic capacitor…https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2018-10-04/the-big-h…
Right, after what happened to Nortel, Cisco, CNEX Labs and many others, I cannot trust anything from Huawei anymore.
Lol, do you have a choice really?
I have this and very satisfied - range is v good. i bought it for $90
I bought this modem to replaced my Asus DSL-AC68U
The wifi 6 signal is pretty weak
Step the 5Ghz band down to 80Mhz or use the 2.4Ghz band, also you cannot expect a $100 wifi 6 router to work better than a $200 Wifi 5 router because there is a price for having a higher wifi standard, and also there is still a price to pay for the innovation of wifi 6 (I know it isn't innovative anymore but more than wifi 5) all those prices for a newer technology are reduced in other things like range.
Yeh it was a big mistake replacing my DSL-AC68u with this.
I wanted to wifi 6 router to take advantage of my new 1000/50 NBN. I'm not getting any increased in speeds from my bedroom which sucks.
If I step the 5ghz band down to 80mhz then it goes even slower
Can anyone advise if this would be a worthwhile upgrade over my Netgear nighthawk r7000 V2 ?
Speedwise it's fine and range is very good. My connection is only 50/20, however this router will need rebooting at least twice a month because it crashes which is frustrating…there are alot of other users experiencing the same thing that have Google home products so I've been searching for a more reliable router for a while now.
Wasn't ANOM offering a free Huawei WS7200 with each phone supplied blahhhhhh !!!
Does anyone know how to block routers sending data back to its manufacturer?