Brisbane City Council has waived the $30 establishment fee when you order a larger recycling bin to replace your standard 240-litre recycling bin.
Tenants, owner-occupiers and property investors are all eligible to order a larger recycling bin.
The establishment fee for Green bin is also waived but there is additional quarterly charges.
nope
Where does it say that though?
BCC have done this offer previously. I haven't been charged any additional cost.
In my council bill each quarter
Can I order one and ship it to NSW
nope
Those general waste bin in NSW are ridiculously small
Size of the general, green waste and recycle bin (non upgraded) are the same size
Is it a 140L bin?
If it is, I have no idea how it could be "ridiculously small"
Most councils in QLD has 240L bins with optional 360L upgraded recycle bin
140L kinda looks like a baby bin
boohoo I got negged for commenting haha
@Poor Ass: Wasn't me negging.
Wife & I barely fill up a 28L bin bag each week, would be even less if we had a compost bin, but no room for that where we live. How do people throw away so much crap?
@Poor Ass: Pretty much. Before i had kids my wife and i would be lucky to even fill half a bin. Now we struggle to fit in a normal bin with a family of 5. More food, toy packaging, guests over and ordering take away vs eating out… It just really adds up.
@Ezuku: Exactly
The whole no plastic bag thing also don't work for babies as you need to bag it to bin it as well
@Poor Ass: Indeed. And curiously enough, reusable nappies are in many situations even worse for the environment than disposable.
@Ezuku: how is washing cotton towel nappies worse for the environment than throwing away disposable nappies?
@eggboi: Wow that's a significant necro.
Anyway, here you are:
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/5a7c4054e5274…
Essentially more greenhouse gases from reusables in this older uk study. This is heavily situation dependant. If you're purchasing the reusables second hand, are planning on using them for more than 1 child, air drying them, washing them in a mixed load with your other clothing etc, the equation shifts dramatically in favour for cloth nappies.
This is also an older study and based in the uk, where they can't air dry like we can. On the other hand the co2 cost for cloth is much higher here and our electricity produces on average much more co2 per unit generated, which would advantage disposables. There are also other advantages of each looking beyond co2 (much more water usage for reusables, but less waste).
The point isn't that reusables are bad, it's more than they're not automatically better for the environment and can easily be worse if the situation isn't approached judiciously.
@Ezuku: Thanks for the insightful reply! I had no idea this was an old post lol… It just appeared at the top of my front ozb page so I assumed it was new. very weird.
The whole no plastic bag thing also don't work for babies as you need to bag it to bin it as well
You throw your babies in the bin?
@FTTNope: The reason we have to throw out so much crap is because of the poor way packaging is designed. Much of what people put in the yellow recycling bin is not recyclable and ends up in landfill. Some LGA's record in excess of 20% contamination!
People think they're doing the right thing by putting a lot of this stuff in recycling bins, but all it does is drive up your cost with council as the processing facilities charge them a higher gate rate that they need to pass on to residents.
@Lets Make Sandwiches: from recent stories sounds more like councils are dumping recycling in landfill as its cheaper for them.
@thesainter: oh I've seen them and I agree with you
if it is general waste it's just not possible when you got small kids
Mines double that size in QLD
Agreed
I’m in NSW and have a 240L general waste bin (the standard in our council area, but they also offer a 360L upsize for yellow bins), and I find the opposite. It’s usually less than 10% full, which means it has a habit of blowing over in the wind on bin collection day.
I’d prefer one that was smaller and weighted in the bottom, but we don’t have that option. If it’s windy, I’ll end up waiting until I hear the truck, then running the bin out to the kerb so it doesn’t blow straight over.
Between the recycling bin (for most cardboards and packaging), the green waste bin (for pruning offcuts) and our compost bin, there isn’t much left for the general waste bin. It’s mostly just non-recyclable plastic packaging and scraps from cooking that can’t be composted.
I can understand that many families with kids need a larger bin, but for a couple, the 240L bin is comically large.
perhaps you can hand the general waste bin back and avoid the charge
I jumped on this last time it was posted - the bigger bin is amazing.
yep
Used to be able to keep the old recycling bin too
Nope
yep
Only early on. We upgraded in last couple years and got a grumpy phone call from council when I tried to "forget" to leave old bin out for removal
Seems targetted
Targeted towards those living is BCC and is a "tenant, owner-occupiers or property investors."
It’s a shame BCC doesn’t offer this to other municipalities
Yeah, BCC should be offering this across Australia. Hell, worldwide.
Cheers OP. Ordered one.
It's great, but the amount of crap I see in some people's bins that is clearly not recyclable (plastic bags filled with stuff, green waste, etc) makes me assume it's all going to landfill anyway sadly…
Yep, blows my mind that people can't follow basic instructions to recycle properly. It's not hard.
It can get a bit complex actually when it comes to different types of plastics without markings and mixed materials like Pringles cans, bottle caps or envelopes in some places. Generally you have to do a bit of research before you really know how to recycle properly and at that point I think many people are just too lazy to do everything correctly
Agreed! Soft plastics recycling is also very complex!
Put all plastics etc in the recycle bin and let them sort it out at the dump. City Hall can keep teams gainfully employed sorting it out. From what I have heard, most of it ends up in landfill anyway, irresepctive of what recycling markings are on it, as they have no 'buyer' for the material after China banned imports of the stuff. I've also heard that people have observed council garbage trucks emptying fixed public recycling bins on the street into the same gardbage trucks as the general landfill waste. Surely they can even incinerate some of these plastics (away from residences) to generate power?
Lol @ green waste, what idiots!!
I've seen much worse! Babies nappies in recycling. That'll make the whole load go to landfill as it's contaminated!
That’s the real bargain here… just use your recycle bin as additional waste capacity. Free to dispose of almost anything! Dead bodies excepted, of course (cut ‘em up and flush ‘em)
Dissolve the bits before you flush. It’s too risky sending chunks of dna to Bondi.
Why you going through people's bins?
Pretty generous whereas NSW just keep charging more for less
If you want to save the environment you need to be thinking laterally — stuff the extras in the neighbour’s bin
Best bet is the skip buns at the council depot. Alternatively, any bridge offers a free waste disposal service. Choice as bro
I have checked my Moreton Bay Council and it appears they offer the same.
https://www.moretonbay.qld.gov.au/Services/Waste-Recycling/C…
No fee is applicable when reducing the size of a general waste bin or increasing the size of a recycling bin.
I didn't know about that, I will give them a call and upgrade mine I understand correctly.
Don't you guys drive to the tip free too?
Yep, but they’ve started putting annual limits in because people abused it (likely with commercial/trade rubbish)…
Oh is that right
What's the limit now?
Is it per household or per drivers licence?
I have just registered, thanks!
Got ours this week, it's massive!
Got a photo?
how long did it take to arrive?
Mine took about a week to come.
I believe Whitehorse, VIC does that same.
Definitely not, moved in and the landlord downgraded ours because they didn't want to pay the fee. Pretty gross behaviour. Council should only do one large size.
For your recycling bin or garbage bin?
Recycling bin of any size is included in the rates. Tenants can also change recycling bin sizes without the landowner’s consent.
https://www.whitehorse.vic.gov.au/waste-environment/rubbish-…
"Only property owners or managing agents can order or swap garbage or garden bins because these services may incur extra charges.
Tenants wishing to order, swap these services must contact the owner or managing agent and ask them to submit a request on their behalf."
@moj3: It all depends which bin (waste, garden organics or recycling).
Recycling Bins
Are included in the rates and free of additional charges.
Maximum of two recycling bins per property.
Tenants can order, swap or cancel recycle bins without the consent of the property owner or managing agent.
Ordered, thanks.
Same applies to Logan City Council as well - they were out of 360L bins when I first checked about 12 months or so ago, so I put my name down to be notified when they had them again. Never got a notification, but was able to order an upgraded recycling bin for free about a month ago.
Blacktown council doesn't have compost, what a joke
NSW in general is a joke. Super high tip fees (no freebies/coupons like QLD). Not to mention rego, insurance, price of property etc. not to mention home to the most corrupt and inept council known to mankind- central coast council ($500m in the red, little to no service offered, no kerb and gutter in majority of its catchment and so in)
CoGC (Gold Coast) wants a lodgement fee of $20.20.
Why don’t they just collect the bloody thing weekly? We fill ours far more than the regular bin!
Cheers!
Happy [early] NY nocure
Thanks, HNY to you
Can I get reimbursed the $30 BCCC as I grabbed a larger yellow bin years ago? Will gladly accept payment in form of tip vouchers.
What’s the point?we know in Melbourne the waste management company just dumps the recycling in the same tip where garbage goes, I really hope that’s not the case in QLD
It definately is the case - https://www.reddit.com/r/brisbane/comments/pomgpb/so_we_dont…
I think the only thing that does get recycled is paper/cardboard, glass and cans
You're charged more in rates. Its not 100% free to use a bigger bin.
Incorrect, upsizing your recycling bin is 100% free, no ongoing fees. Green waste bins are also being rolled out for free.
No need yellow upsize, need a free green bin please
Green bin now is less than 1/2 the price of before and you can order another one for free
or upsize the general red bin would makes more sense
Aren’t the 240 litre bins normally the “largest”? Are the 360 litre bins those weird american looking ones or am I mixed up?
how big is the larger bin? I wish there pictures to compare sizes
They are are 1100 millimetres high, 680 millimetres wide and 870 millimetres deep.
Totalling 120L additional volume
Logan still charging an extra $20
They didn't charge anything when we upgraded ours. Was a while ago though so maybe things have changed.
If the $20 is only once off, it's still not bad if you have a use for it. We've run out of room in our 360L bin a few times.
So a bigger bin, to be cross contaminated , thus sending the whole truckload to landfill. Joy
Larger in size but not in weight, isn't it? Still around 70kg load (from memory) as the truck couldn't lift more than 100kg bin I assume
Recycling tends to be light so shouldn’t be an issue.
One time when I cleared my garage, I tried to put as much into both red and yellow bins. The driver put a note saying overweight on my red bin. Later I checked and learned the weight limit. I noticed the general waste truck was a bit older, hence struggled to lift the heavy bin, while no problem with the recycling truck.
I'm assuming the upsize bin is for capacity only since the same trucks.
The public limit is 70kg, but the actual limit probably 20kg heavier. The bins have RFID chips to know who's bin it is, that gets synced up to the video footage of bin being emptied plus the weight of the bin. Great evidence if people decide to dump bodies in bins which has happened before
Yeah 90-100kg that's what I notice.
It's a bit of dirty job to seperate a body into pieces and as well fry/oven, tho that way could significantly reduce the weight. Recently I see quite lots of videos from Asian countries putting the dead into a suitcase then dumping in a river/sea. If they can sink the suitcase, it'd be very hard to chase up.
How about Ipswich?
Different council…
![[QLD] Upsize Your Recycling Bin For Free @ Brisbane City Council](https://files.ozbargain.com.au/n/02/675202.jpg?h=a4128e2b)
Don't they just charge you a higher council rate for the extra load?