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  lgacb08 on 21/12/2021 - 08:49

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  Just heard there's 25% devaluation of the lira so foreign monies are of great value over there but who knows what political unrest might that lead to.

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    Thrifty Dan on 21/12/2021 - 09:50

    You get arrested for bs there. I wouldn’t go there if you would give me money

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      Lord Fart Bucket on 21/12/2021 - 12:14

      -1

      With Erdogan in charge there, i 100% agree.

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      zemphism on 22/12/2021 - 10:45

      Elaborate please

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  perfeksionitst on 21/12/2021 - 08:53

  +6

  And get a cheap Netflix subscription!

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    seanbaussie on 21/12/2021 - 11:11

    Or drop in on your "friend" whose address you use for said subscription!

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  xeri on 21/12/2021 - 09:50

  Any deals on the turkey / greece (santorini) combo? eg: https://eskapas.com/tour/best-of-turkey-and-greece-with-2-da…

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    Associatedeskapas @ Eskapas on 21/12/2021 - 18:19

    Yes, you can use the same coupon code.

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  kamelataturd on 21/12/2021 - 14:49

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  "Few places on earth can rival the incredible history of Turkey,"

  Yeah itd be a struggle. Perhaps 1940s Nazi Germany or the Imperial Japanese Forces in Manchuria would give them a run but it'd be a close call to see which country has performed the most extensive genocide.

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    [Deactivated] on 22/12/2021 - 02:40

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    You obviously have a problem with racism and inflammatory speeches which is deliberately provoking hatred of racial vilifications.

    OP is posting a holiday for those who may be interested in, but you want to talk about history and genocide ???
    These accusations you’re making are sensitive and subjective.

    I’m not going to correct you or debate you on your lack of history here as this is not the right place.

    You’re username (Kemal Ataturk is a turd) explains your hatred towards the country in concern.)

    Grow up and leave whatever you think or know is not relevant here.
    Don’t bring your racial hatred to this country and stir the pot.

    Your post ( and mine) should be deleted!
    But you should get suspended for your unnecessary hatred speech!!!

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  kamelataturd on 22/12/2021 - 08:53

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  you are going off topic, happy to discuss with you further via pm - the post states "Few places on earth can rival the incredible history of Turkey, yet its delights are certainly not only found in books about the past."
  which is ironic for a country that is responsible for the mass genocide of around 2 million Assyrians Greeks and Armenians - a crime for which many nations around the world have acknowledged (including Nazi Germany) and yet Turkey to this day continues to deny it ever happened. If the op was interested in posting about a holiday offer then post about a holiday offer. no need to fluff it up with subjective and sensitive fallicies.

  

  kamelataturd on 22/12/2021 - 08:53 (Collapsed - Offtopic. Show)
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    zemphism on 22/12/2021 - 10:51

    Yet you are happy to sit on the land of people that have gone through genocide without any mentioning of the matter.

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      kamelataturd on 22/12/2021 - 11:40

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      Yeah nah not a valid argument. If you think the Turkish government affords the Greeks/Armenians/Assyrians/Kurds the same benefits that Australia provides its indigenous it just highlights how delusional you are.

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        [Deactivated] on 22/12/2021 - 20:05

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        Get over it mate for F’s sake.
        You have a one view opinion that’s biased as hell, just bye reading your racist and username.
        For those that don’t know, it parts of a very famous leader in world war whose respected by many nations around the world, Kemal Ataturk. He’s referring to this great leader of all time as a “turd” in he’s user name.

        Ignorance and hatred that you seem to have no doubt has sent you nuts.

        Just to mention that you don’t even no the meaning of “genocide” shows your lack of intelligence.

        If Turkey was deemed by to have committed genocide, for starters they would no way on earth be part of NATO, you

        If you bothered to read as I did briefly on google, you would find that there is conflicting evidence on what you claim.
        But this doesn’t suit you got obvious reasons.

        I just read that in the 19th century where in Ireland there was the unfortunate incident called the “Great Famine”

        Out of all the countries and Irelands neighbours eg. England , guess who came to their country with 5 Shipments of food and things???
        TURKEY!!!

        While millions were dying and England refusing to not only help(don’t mean to bring anyone into this but this person it’s given me no choice) but England warned and didn’t want the Ottoman Sultan of Turkey to not outdo them.

        There much more than you give credit to.

        Here’s a small clip that’s more within our time from hundreds of pages on the web I found.
        “ By contributing more than a quarter of the entire world’s humanitarian aid, Turkey became the leading country in providing aid to those in need in 2019. Needless to say, its strength in foreign aid is with humanitarian assistance”

        Still won’t convince someone like you as mentioned.

        Even with the now famous Anzacs with which we are familiar with.

        As Australians, we know that we got dragged into this war at Glalaperly with Turkey. Knowing that they where (Turk’s) we’re defending their land. A century later the Turks didn’t hold a grudge like you, towards Australia.
        In fact we all know the mutual respect we have for each other as a nation.
        They mostly helped Bury the dead soldiers and making a cemetery for all Australian soldiers so as their loved ones can come to Turkey and pay their respects. How many other countries that have been in war has done such humane and peaceful offering to a country they fought with???

        They don’t sound like a nation of people that you perpetrate them as, do they?

        Leave your hatred out of this. It’s obvious with a username as yours that this is personal to you.

        We don’t want that hatred or animosity here!!
        You’re saying people shouldn’t visit a country because of your misconceptions.
        Well not only does their country is just about fully booked out every summer, you’re accusations aren’t Going to stop me or others going to Japan because they dropped a bomb on Pearl Harbor or say to Hawaii because USA taking over Hawaii!!!
        Just a tiny tiny eg for you.

        Keep your political views to yourself and stop holding grudges and inciting hatred please.

        Peace!!

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  kamelataturd on 23/12/2021 - 02:11

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  Hahaha could you be any more triggered. I had a simple point to make and that is Turkey is guilty of mass genocide which has been ratified by many nations and yet Turkey continue to deny it happened and even market themself as some fairytale destination with a magical history despite the fact it was built on the blood of millions of 'kafirs'.

  Sending food to Irish farmers doesn't dismiss their crimes in the same way that John Wayne Gacey going around blowing up balloons and performing at children's parties diminishes his responsibilities for his crimes. Similarly Nazi Germany hosting the Olympics in 1936 did not prevent them from committing atrocities behind the scenes in the lead up to and beyond the Olympics. On this point however in your own words it was the Ottomans that apparently supported the Irish. The killing of Armenians/Greeks/Assyrians was at the hands of your beloved young turks under the leadership of your even more beloved ataturk and his bedfellows the pashas.

  Here’s a small clip that’s more within our time from hundreds of pages on the web I found.
  “ By contributing more than a quarter of the entire world’s humanitarian aid, Turkey became the leading country in providing aid to those in need in 2019. Needless to say, its strength in foreign aid is with humanitarian assistance”<<
  RE this amazing quote for which you provided no reference (starting to see a trend of that here). But I find it fascinating that the world leader in humanitarian aid itself continues to receive huge amounts of humanitarian aid. Because I suppose criminals have never tried to hide their crimes by throwing up a smoke screen of money.

  Here is a quote with a source - Adolf Hitler: "Accordingly, I have placed my death-head formation in readiness – for the present only in the East – with orders to them to send to death mercilessly and without compassion, men, women, and children of Polish derivation and language. Only thus shall we gain the living space (Lebensraum) which we need. Who, after all, speaks today of the annihilation of the Armenians?"

  Again Turk interaction with ANZACs does not change the fact that Turks were genociding in the background. Nazi forces in northern Africa were renowned for adhering to the Geneva convention and combating in a gentlemanly fashion - we never said because of the conduct of the afrika korps under rommell it is impossible the Jews were undergoing their genocide in Europe at the same time. ANZACs were aware of the atrocities being committed by the Turks and this was published in the media of the time. Perhaps have a read of this article written by a Turk…
  http://www.genocidemonument.com/2016/05/14/anzac-soldiers-re…

  It's easy for you to throw out a lot of flash bangs and false extrapolations
  - Turks buried Australian soldiers
  - Turks sent potatoes to starving Irish (because my enemies enemy is my friend would never be a motivation here)
  - suggesting that I said no one should visit Turkey
  - if I swear and yell then it must be true

  History has proven the crimes of Turkey not just at the time but also the consequences of the perpetual denial by that nation. The continued failure of the world to punish those guilty of genocide has allowed others to use the Turkish model to eliminate undesirables.

  "Keep your political views to yourself and stop holding grudges and inciting hatred please.

  Peace!!"
  Yeah stop holding a grudge that we killed off approx 2million people and deny that we did it and murder people who try to expose the truth. Cool 😂😂😂 peace my a**

  

  kamelataturd on 23/12/2021 - 02:11 (Collapsed - Offtopic. Show)
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  [Deactivated] on 23/12/2021 - 10:10

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  You’re not going to accept anything from history that says otherwise and it’s sad to see someone like you carry such a grudge and hatred, and I say this sincerely because it’s people like you that bring up old wounds that makes and stirs more trouble around the world for those that want peace and sanity for their children and so on.

  Let it go my friend ( I’ll be a Good Samaritan)
  Look my grandkids ( I suppose they’re 3rd generation Australians) are never going to be taught to be vengeful or hatred (because I never got that and our kids didn’t either).

  Somehow people from especially from other countries still instil these events from the past or history that they were part of in some way, to continue the hatred into them.
  I’ve seen this from my experience growing up as a kid in Australia.
  That is so wrong in my opinion.
  Why did many people around the world go and leave their country?
  For a better place for themselves and their children and grandchildren and so on.
  So why instil the hatred part into them?
  I’m not suggesting your parents did this, and take it that they didn’t, then if you’re a father or a parent, why on earth in this beautiful country of ours that our parents or grandparents etc would you want to teach them peace and appreciation that you know have and enjoy???

  Yea I’m a grandfather of a few beautiful grandkids.
  I don’t and I know that their parents (multicultural, as I and some of my kids ended up with different backgrounds background families including Australians like myself) will not teach them to hate or grudge someone of any race or colour.

  But I do realise that somewhere along the lines of growing up that they meet people of that of the peaceful and morally wrong attitude, that I’ve educated them on, they will make the right judgement and stay away from.
  All of my kids ( I married an Australian and my brother and another married a Colombian, just so you get the picture) turned out to be of good upstanding citizens of Australians.

  Now they all have their kids, I’m more than sure, I’m confident that they will not be teaching their multicultural background kids of any past history of past events in history of the world, where they must not forget to hate or grudge what went on in the past while growing up.

  Any sensible person would NOT teach or instil hatred and animosity in their children.

  So instead of me now going back to you to point out things where I think or I know is wrong, I’m going to leave you with that and hope that I’ve had a hand in ( I hope) someone reading this tiring conversation, that I made a difference on being a good peaceful person than of a sad hateful one who in return will carry love and harmony to this country of ours and the world that we live in.

  I’m not for wars and I’m not going to defend any wrongs.
  It’s the leaders that are to blame, not who has to carry them out.

  All I’m saying is whether it was this or that, just hope that we don’t, or our grandkids, or their grandchildren etc etc don’t have to go through any sort of wars or conflicts with anyone in their lifetime or ever.

  Let’s have peace and harmony and good health for the human race 🙏🏼

  

  [Deactivated] on 23/12/2021 - 10:10 (Collapsed - Offtopic. Show)
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    kamelataturd on 23/12/2021 - 20:52

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    You are so far off with your assumptions. It's easy to say forget about the past when your ancestors are the perpetrators of genocide and not the victims. It's funny how quickly the turks got triggered and refused to allow NSW parliamentarians to visit Gallipoli.

    I don't teach hate and never proposed hatred. Simply pointed out that the Turks conveniently want to sweep their nasty past under the carpet and then present an artificial image of themselves.

    The same way the Germans learnt to genocide from the Turks, the Turks need to learn how to repent for their sins from the Germans.

    Very disappointing to see generation after generation pass where the Turks just sit back and wait for people to forget about it. There is no statute of limitations on genocide.

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  [Deactivated] on 25/12/2021 - 11:07

  Hey mate I’m deactivating this account as this has gone too far and I hardly use it.
  Don’t for a moment think I’m running away from an discussion or whatever you want a call it.
  Peace to you and your ancestors and how you get over your ordeal of hatred and vengeance.
  My whole deal was to show you there’s two sides to a story and no matter what you hear or believe it’s not good for you.
  I’ve had many good friends of all nationalities including Irish Scottish German Italian Greek Macedonian Serbian Australians of course and many more along the way.
  Forgot to mention Turk‘s as well.
  And I made many enemies with Turkish people as well because they wouldn’t except me for being neutral and not being involved in their political and religious conversations.
  I honestly don’t give a (profanity) about anyone’s background and take everyone on face value.
  Believe it or not.
  If you had of met me you would’ve understood me a lot better.
  Having said all that I don’t want to keep coming back and forth and googling and shit. I’m much older than you I know that not that it means anything but I just can’t keep going back and forth as this is on the other hand. Your really in trenched in your beliefs and want vengeance or whatever that you want, for me to Debate you, as I’ve never been deeply involved in history or religion as I know it causes friction amongst people and the best thing is to keep those things at your life and you’ll have a whole lot more friends that will appreciate you and the few that won’t as they are too fanatical in their thoughts of certain things. As I said I’ve had A couple of 50 cups even with Turks when I was younger like 16-18 because they said I wasn’t a real Turk and picked a fight. I wasn’t fighting back to say that I was at Turk but was fighting because he wanted to beat me up. From those couple of moments I found that I would never call myself Turk again. Same with fighting with a few Australians again when I was young, I had to fight because I was called a dirty greasy wog and picked on for a fight
  Long gone are those days. 50-60 years ago we paved the way for you lot and this racism against ethnics in Australia is not as big nowhere as big as what it was back then
  My heritage is Turkish and I’m proud of that in many ways and not so in someways. Anyway sorry if I’ve offended you and I hope you have a happy long prosperous life.

  

  [Deactivated] on 25/12/2021 - 11:07 (Collapsed - Offtopic. Show)