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Toshiba KioXia Exceria 1TB NVMe M.2 SSD $99 Delivered @ Shopping Express

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Toshiba KioXia Exceria 1TB NVMe M.2 SSD $99 Delivered @ Shopping Express
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fiftycentscheaper on 27/11/2021 - 14:40 shoppingexpress.com.au (1284 clicks)

Great price for a TLC SSD with DRAM.

Less reviewed as it is only sold outside the USA but coverage is very positive for a budget boot drive with good random and sustained performance, but relatively weaker sequential write due to small cache.

Very small 20GB SLC write cache at 1600MB/s but good TLC sustained write at 660MB/s. 1700MB/s read sequential read.
400 TBW, 5 year warranty.
Other reviews note no hardware encryption.

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  • nico8amy on 27/11/2021 - 14:43

    Better than sn550 and p1?

    • bazingaa on 27/11/2021 - 15:58
      +1

      SN550 is always better than P1, higher endurance

      • nico8amy on 27/11/2021 - 15:59
        +1

        No worries. End up getting this one. Already has a 970 Evo plus.

        • bazingaa on 27/11/2021 - 16:01
          +1

          yeah, this seems better than both P1 and SN550 (after they swapped NAND), good speeds with DRAM and mid level endurance :D
          I got a SN550 (got swapped NAND) for $119, could have waited for this

  • doperst on 27/11/2021 - 14:48

    This or Crucial P1 1TB for $106.50?

    • Spoodster on 27/11/2021 - 15:08
      +5

      This for sure. Crucial P1 uses cheaper & slower QLC NAND as opposed to TLC

    • giordan0 on 27/11/2021 - 17:53

      Crucial P1 now is pretty bad/QLC and is slower than a mechanical hard drive.

  • [Deactivated] on 27/11/2021 - 14:48
    -1

    Interesting how less cache would impact sequential write.
    You’d think logically once the cache is full that the throughput would be the bottle neck.

    • brimmy11 on 27/11/2021 - 16:29

      I don't quite understand your comment. Once the cache runs out it falls back to whatever the native NAND is, for this it is TLC so sustained writes are decent.

      • [Deactivated] on 27/11/2021 - 18:06

        In the OP it says “ but relatively weaker sequential write due to small cache.”.
        I was curious why caching would affect sustained and consistent writes.

        • fiftycentscheaper on 27/11/2021 - 19:39
          +1

          Was referring to sequential from the perspective of transferring large files, and sustained as speed you get when persistently writing beyond the cache. I agree with your thoughts in that it does not directly affect writes, except that some drives have up to 10x the cache size and the point where the TLC write can make up the ground will be beyond the drive size. Main point is that although you may not be able to write 500GB as fast as a drive with more cache, the drive is less likely to become crippled once cache exhausts compared to other budget drives.

  • DarthLord on 27/11/2021 - 15:08
    +1

    Wow getting cheaper

    • hollykryten on 27/11/2021 - 15:20
      -3

      Yeah except the read and write speeds are slow for a PCIe Gen 3 SSD. The Samsung 970 Pro Gen 3 SSD i have is almost twice as quick. You get what you pay for with this.

      • netsurfer on 27/11/2021 - 15:32
        +1

        In sequential read/write and that's the last consumer MLC NVMe SSD so it's most certainly double the price per GB (if not more). Sequential read/write figures in benchmark software are something most of us cannot seem to resist being tricked. How often do you actually use 970 Pro and take advantage of that sequential read/write in real life? Furthermore, is the SLC cache in there still #1 in today's standard? PS5 won't accept it.

        I don't find 970 Pro booting 2 times faster than a decent SATA3 SSD. I have one, it is a really expensive toy to be honest.

        P.S. I didn't neg you. I don't see a need to neg people's comments.

        • hollykryten on 27/11/2021 - 15:40

          Yeah i take advantage of it all the time with large game map loads.

          • netsurfer on 27/11/2021 - 15:41

            @hollykryten: https://tpucdn.com/review/kioxia-exceria-1-tb/images/windows…

            Sadly, this 1TB boots faster than 970 Pro 512GB so I hope you have 970 Pro 1TB. That's the issue I have with just looking at benchmark. There are so many other factors.

            • hollykryten on 27/11/2021 - 15:42

              @netsurfer: No. It looks about the same actually within margain of error for Windows boot startup.

              What the larger SSD bandwidth may be better for is very large file loads. For example multiple gigabyte sized game map loads. It's just loading up straight up large amounts of sequential data. That's why the PS5 and XBSX has a very fast NVMe SSD. Most game map files now a days are into the multiple gigabytes in size.

              • netsurfer on 27/11/2021 - 15:46

                @hollykryten: Sadly, even that argument is bad for Samsung 970 Pro. Essentially low cost PCIe gen 4 NVMe SSDs can take advantage of the PCIe gen 4 bandwidth. That's why I mentioned it is an expensive toy. You are not going to see 970 Pro boot much faster in games or load much faster in games. Let's not try to sugarcoat a product we own so much.

                Yes, it is MLC and sure, the sustained write is one of the best, but let's face it, with multi channel controller advancement, and PCIe gen 4, MLC now means nothing (given SLC cache is being used to trick benchmark left right and centre). It's no longer a good idea to go 970 Pro.

                • hollykryten on 27/11/2021 - 15:48

                  @netsurfer: 970 Pro was a Gen 3 SSD any how. 980 series is the Gen 4 SSD.

                  The SSD on this deal is a Gen 3 SSD. That's why i did a comparison between Gen 3 SSD.

                  • netsurfer on 27/11/2021 - 15:50

                    @hollykryten: 970 Pro really is a bad example. It is a niche SSD for people who insist on having MLC SSD.
                    970 Evo Plus, with controller and SLC cache enhancement can beat 970 Pro in a lot of benchmark tests. 970 Pro is bad value for money in today's standard. You cannot get a 1TB 970 Pro at this price and why would you now get 970 Pro?

                    This one I can understand, cheap NVMe 1TB SSD and below $100.

                • brocky2006 on 27/11/2021 - 16:19

                  @netsurfer: Do you have any recommendations for a drive to use on xbox. 2tb.Planned to use in an external caddy.

                  • netsurfer on 27/11/2021 - 16:29

                    @brocky2006: Xbox One S, X or XBox Series S or Series X? Series S|X supports USB 3.1/3.2 gen 2. Also, what exactly are you after? Cost effective or speed? Series S|X gets tricky as you probably would be eying for the external add-on (CFExpress based).

                    Another factor is GamePass Ultimate, I don't think 2TB is enough, but I guess you can use multiple external drives with XBox consoles.

                    USB 3.1 gen 2 for Series X|S, the bit to watch out is the chipset. There are currently 3: JMicron, AsMedia, and Realtek (watch out for JMicron chipset based enclosures as certain firmware versions have issues and el cheapo ones, you cannot get the new firmware, might be best to avoid that chipset). Anyway, those chipsets are PCIe gen 3 x2 based and while a lot of these NVMe SSDs shine in PCIe gen 3 x4 mode, some don't run so well with the chipset. I do suggest you read the comments on the enclosure you intend to buy. Also, due to its x2 nature, you can see why Samsung and Sandisk do not put their top notch NVMe SSDs in there (coz. those would be an overkill).

                    USB 3.1 gen 1/USB 3, just get any cost effective SATA3 SSD in there.

                    • brocky2006 on 27/11/2021 - 16:52
                      +1

                      @netsurfer: Xbox one s.
                      Probably some 10gbps enclosure. Larger ssds cost too much. Currently have a 4tb portable now but find loading a bit slow

                      • netsurfer on 27/11/2021 - 18:15

                        @brocky2006: Don't. XBox One S only supports USB 3.0 / 3.1 gen 1 (5Gbps). 10Gbps enclosure is overkill for One X or One S. Just get cheap SATA3 SSDs with cheap USB 3.0 enclosures ($9). Try to get one with JMicron JMS578 chipset.

                        USB 3.1 gen 2 enclosures on One S or One X is a waste of money as you will be running them in USB 3.0/3.1 gen 1 mode. I get why you want to get an external SSD for One S or One X (because there XB1S|X doesn't come with internal SSD so there is no quick resume).

                        There are only 2 reasons you might use to get USB 3.1 gen 2 for One S or One X: (1) you intend to upgrade to Series S or Series X or (2) there is a bit of a lottery with USB 3.0 / 3.1 enclosure chipset and you fear it doesn't have proper TRIM over USB and UASP.

                        • brocky2006 on 27/11/2021 - 18:23

                          @netsurfer: 205 for a corsair P2 2tb at the low end. Don't see any ssds for less.
                          275 for the 970 EVO Plus 2tb

                          • netsurfer on 27/11/2021 - 18:28

                            @brocky2006: P2 2TB… the reason it is at that price is that it is QLC (Crucial did a cost cutting measure on the newer batch). It is okay if you are doing mostly read and you are okay with games take a while to transfer to that SSD initially (the write speed will be a bit better than 2.5 inch HDD, but won't be as fast as a quality 3.5 inch HDD). It's probably okay since you will most likely be transferring games from HDD to it (or download from the Web, which is even slower). When playing games, the SLC cache and multi channel read would help.

                            I am not a fan of QLC SSDs, not because of their subpar sustained write, but more they are not cheap enough. Again, just to re-iterate, XBox One S does NOT support USB 3.1 gen 2, so there is really no point going for USB 3.1 gen 2 enclosures as you will still be running in USB 3.0 / 3.1 gen 1 mode.

      • incipient on 27/11/2021 - 15:34
        +1

        Yeah the 970 pro is nearly 3x the price. Comparing the synthetic benches, this thing is an absolute beast. Brilliant 4k/low QD performance which is great for an OS. How often would someone actually be writing to the disk at >2gb/sec for most usage? (I guess possibly video editors would need sequential large write performance?)

        https://www.techpowerup.com/review/kioxia-exceria-1-tb/4.htm…

  • Spoodster on 27/11/2021 - 15:09

    Thanks OP! Just pulled the trigger. This is amazing value!

  • pompompom on 27/11/2021 - 15:10
    -5

    Does it work with ps5 ?

    • hollykryten on 27/11/2021 - 15:29

      No. PS5 needs a Gen 4 SSD.

  • RowanLucas on 27/11/2021 - 15:15

    Shows 15$ shipping fee for me

    • doperst on 27/11/2021 - 15:19
      +1

      Try applying this code: BLCKFRDY27_FS

      • RowanLucas on 27/11/2021 - 15:21

        Worked, thanks!

    • netsurfer on 27/11/2021 - 15:20

      There should be a Black Friday discount to offset the shipping fee.

  • netsurfer on 27/11/2021 - 15:16
    +2

    Instead of selling just the NAND chips to other SSD makers, this is what happens when Toshiba does a Phison E12C controller based SSD. In case you are wondering, the "C" in E12C basically can be interpreted as cost effective.

    If you are unclear about SSDs, you could use this list:
    https://linustechtips.com/topic/1092033-ssd-tier-list/

    While I think it should divide the SSDs into more tiers, It is okay for now. Budget tier is correct for this SSD.

  • poporange630 on 27/11/2021 - 15:20

    This SSD is good but it runs hot. Heat sink is highly recommended.

    • hollykryten on 27/11/2021 - 15:46
      +1

      I don't have a heatink on my Samsung 970 Pro 512GB. However it does get a bit hot while gaming. But i haven't seen it being speed thottled. The case needs some great ventilation cooling.

      • netsurfer on 27/11/2021 - 15:54
        +4

        Please…. stop hyping 970 Pro.

        https://www.techpowerup.com/review/samsung-970-pro-ssd-512-g…

        There is thermal throttling for all NVMe SSDs.

        Honestly, after supporting Samsung and their MLC SSDs, it is time really to face the reality. With controller improvement, larger SLC cache on newer TLC SSDs, newer gen SSDs do show why SLC + TLC combination is a better way forward.

        Also, 970 Pro has been around for quite some time now. Let's really move on please… I own one, and I am most certainly unhappy about the price I paid (even with the discount and the cashback). Not happy my 970 Evo Plus 1TB is cheaper and generally faster, and my "slowest" PCIe gen 4 SSD is faster.

  • Jfree on 27/11/2021 - 15:55

    Anybody knows any gift card/cash back for shopping express?

  • bazingaa on 27/11/2021 - 15:58

    looks like a great deal

  • razgriz88 on 27/11/2021 - 16:14

    thanks op, picked up one to replace an old hdd game drive

  • morgs640 on 27/11/2021 - 16:24

    The magical price 😍

  • shabaka on 27/11/2021 - 16:27
    +3

    perfect addition for the $55 ROG enclosure from Amazon deal

    • Revrnd on 27/11/2021 - 23:34

      good point. that's a great cost-effective 1TB USB drive (with style)

  • [Deactivated] on 27/11/2021 - 16:41
    +1

    damn it, did I miss out?

    • Shisn0 on 27/11/2021 - 16:44
      +2

      I think we did, I spent too much time looking at review..

      • [Deactivated] on 27/11/2021 - 16:44

        Yeah literally, lol.

  • Windows98 on 27/11/2021 - 16:51

    Boo

  • dfg555 on 27/11/2021 - 17:29

    Fun fact: WD and Seagate outsource from Toshiba Kioxia for NAND Flash.

  • Worf on 27/11/2021 - 17:48

    Can this be used to upgrade the ssd (with an adapter) in a 2014 MacBook Air?

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