Just came out and cheaper then most Factory Overclocked HD7970's ..
Full Reviews will be out tomorrow
Gigabyte GTX 680 2GB $679
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More GPU RAM is irrelevant. Most games don't even use 1GB let alone 2GB. But yes, I wouldn't say this is "cheaper than most 7970s", although it does seem atm to be faster. Will learn more once the actual reviews are released (and not just snippets leaked).
I believe its 'usually' irrelevant, but from what I've heard the extra RAM is used when running multiple monitors. Worth mentioning in case this is for a system running ultiple displays.
CarbonTwelve, eyefinity works on a lot of games…
Don't post if you don't know.
A lot? Yes. Most? For official support, no. http://support.amd.com/us/eyefinity/Pages/eyefinity-software…
Besides which, my point is very few people are using it, and as below the RAM requirements for multi-monitor support aren't that significant.
I was playing borderlands with eyefinity the other day, also civilisation V and also duke, all seemed to run fine, so the list of officially supported definatly does not includ all games that work with it…I think it will run most games no problem. not even skyrim is on there!
Single monitor @ 2560x1600, you'll be wanting all the video RAM you can get.
If you can afford the current top-end GPU, having a ducks nuts monitor isn't exactly a wild assumption.
If your buying a high end card then I'm going to assume the rest of your equipment is high end as well.
In which case 1GB is NOT enough, this is especially true if you do eyefinity etc.
Lets assume you're using eyefinity, with 3x 2560x1600 screens. The VRAM required for the frame buffer is 2560 * 1600 * 3 (24 bit) * 3 (3 displays). 35MB. Now let's assume you're running 16x AA for all of that too. 562MB. There's still 1.5GB left for the game to use. Now, are you really suggesting there are enough people out there using 3x 2560x1600 displays, playing games that require more than 1.5GB for the game, that it's going to make that much difference for? Not to mention that there's no way in hell this card alone would cope displaying 7680x1600 with 16AA for anything even remotely modern.
Carbon, we are not running windows here, we are running video games. Your post makes perfect sense if we were running windows 7 with 16xAA haha.
1GB can easily not be enough for a single monitor, eyefinity just makes it even worse.
16xAA is not required to make 1GB a problem, and yes your attempts are figuring out video memory usage are wrong and amusing.
Why are you mentioning 1GB? This card has 2GB, compared to the 3GB of ATi cards.
And the only video memory usage that I'm looking at is the impact of the screen size and AA on the frame buffer. Yes, video games need more than that, but what else they need isn't affected by screen size. If you play a game at 1920x1200 0xAA, and then change to 7680x1600 with 16xAA, you're going to need about 500MB more, due to the increased frame buffer.
Once again Carbon, your maths are talking about Windows, not video games.
When talking about video games it doesn't work like that, for example when you use anti aliasing you are applying it to the video game not windows.
I'm talking about 1GB because you said "Most games don't even use 1GB"
Which is wrong and shows you are misinformed.
No, the math isn't talking about Windows. Yes, the AA applies to the video game. The AA only affects the frame buffer, which is based on a limited resolution, which happens to be the resolution you are using for the game. If you want to show a different formula for how to calculate the size of the frame buffer, please go right ahead. I'd be very interested to see it.
As for most games not requiring 1GB, depends what games you're talking about and again, what resolution & AA settings. Popular AAA titles will use more than 1GB for high resolutions with AA. Most games or playing without AA generally won't.
I don't know why you're getting downvoted so much, VRAM is not importaint to most 'average' gamers (single screen 1920x1080) beyond that of 1GB, some games may have slight utalization for higher amounts (see GTA IV, which in reality is a bad way to use VRAM).
In the end a consumer will see 'more ram' and think it's better, in reality it matters very little & is usually used to trick consumers when buying laptops/cards etc. (hey look at this i7 gaming laptop with massive 2GB GFX! only $999 .. with a 520m…)
As with what Sam said, if you are looking at buying a 7970 or a GTX 680, then you are NOT an "average" gamer. These are NVIDIA and AMD's fastest single GPU cards. People who buy them are more likely to be using multiple monitor setups or running games at 2560X1600, in which case more VRAM will help. Not to mention people who use mods in games like Skyrim and GTAIV to boost the graphics, this also will chew up your VRAM in many instances.
Most? http://www.staticice.com.au/cgi-bin/search.cgi?q=7970+3gb&sp… first 5 pages are all under $650 lol!
New release prices not exactly a bargain =/
amazingly i have to go to the NINTH page on staticice for the 1st ATI 7970 more than $679!
talk about embarrassing for the OP
corrected! :) & i feel no shame
Better then the $800 dollars we saw 7970 at launch
It's irrelevant what the 7970 cost at launch. Only thing that matters is whether it's better value than 7970 atm. Hard to be sure until we see everything from reviews.
favourite computer store.. store that doesn't get enough notice..
anything they generally sell there, if you are willing to drive.. is cheaper majority of the time in comparison to MSY and PCCASEGEAR..however, their range isn't as extensive as PCcasegear…=/
Ditto and i used to love the old website, its a shame they changed to this current one.
Give it about 3 months and watch the price drop by at least a hundred…
Give it 3 months and watch any PC part drop by 10-15%. Kinda a pointless statement…
i think it would be against the ozbargain code of behaviour to buy a card like this on launch day
isn't the 7970 like 2 months old? that would mean it dropped roughly $100 every month?
Pretty much spot on it has droped $100 each month but still costs more then it doesn in the US or A
Blatant price gouge by Australian suppliers so it's business as usual here. Wait a month or so if you don't want to be ripped off
http://www.hardocp.com/article/2012/03/22/nvidia_kepler_gpu_…
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/NVIDIA/GeForce_GTX_680/
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5699/nvidia-geforce-gtx-680-re…Confirmed MSRP of $499 in the US. Im wondering how Australian sellers can justify a price tag of $680+
I would be careful quoting the price on these sites. Many of the others linked to on whirlpool will have a price that's only a guess and they admit could change at any time.
For instance:
http://www.netplus.com.au/product/VDGIGTX680-04/Gigabyte_GTX…They don't actually have it in stock though. According to the ITEstate site they've already had 2 in stock (1 now). If they've got it in stock, they'd have to have confirmed their pricing.
Yes .. in stock and ready to ship, pricing is REAL
Thank you just for the news of the release! EEP!
NVidia doesnt have anything similar to Eyefinity does it?
They have nVidia Surround.
and it now supports 3 monitors with nVidia Surround on a single card with the new GTX680.
They didnt support 3 befor with the 580 + nVidia Surround. you required a second card.
I'm going to neg for now, and I'll explain why. I'll remove the neg tomorrow if appropriate.
Reports coming in off US sites indicate the GTX680 should be about $50 cheaper than the Radeon 7970.
In Australia, the non overclocked 7970's can be had for $599 (example http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&c… )
Which means $679 appears to be serious price gouging, and definately not a bargain.
You forgot to factor in the early adopters tax :P
Also from IT Estate, you should get reimbursed for dealing with their crap not charged a premium.
so much hate… love my friend .. love :)
Well I reviewed my neg with today's pricing. From what I've seen it's hard to make a real comment on what the price is supposed to be in AU. Still feel it's too high for $679 to be considered a deal.
Doesn't matter I suppose, everywhere will be sold out by now. No deals to be had because no stock anywhere.
http://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/65737
yeah… same shop
more ram on the ATI as well… and $60 saving for the privelege