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Free: Fahrenheit 9/11 Documentary + Q&A Session @ Michael Moore's Substack & Youtube

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One of the best 9/11 documentaries IMHO (also rated 7.5 on IMDb). I watched it live earlier this morning via his youtube channel and the link will apparently be available for now…This is also the link for his Twitter announcement:
https://mobile.twitter.com/MMFlint/status/143640554513354346…

Also available via YouTube:
https://youtu.be/cebnlqi9RGQ

Update from MM (13/09)
'The response to our free screening of Fahrenheit 9/11 was so overwhelming, we’re keeping it up for free on my YouTube channel. So if you missed the screening, now you can watch it this week when u want! https://youtube.com/watch?v=cebnlqi9RGQ… (includes Q&A and extras. The movie starts at 38:00)'

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Comments

              • +1

                @belongsinforums: or share facts. We like very different documentaries.

              • @belongsinforums: yes but there is an honest way to persuade, if your partner tries to get you to do something with compliments/affection it's different to threatening to kill themselves both are persuading but one is more honest/ethical.

                • @jerrus: Lies don't belong in documentaries but twisting the truth is to be expected

    • +6

      I can't take Moore seriously either. He takes on some important issues but his films are so full of intentionally misleading statements, outright lies, facts out of context etc they shouldn't even qualify as documentaries. Sky after Dark or American Fox News level of honesty.

      • +1

        It been years but IIRC he was pretty dishonest in Bowling for columbine as well.

        While i fully support better gun control, no need to be dishonest in somehting that's meant to be a documentary.

    • +9

      What does that have to do with a 9/11 documentary?

    • +3

      How much did Bush pay you to write this comment? :D

    • +2

      by negative voting my comments.

      ahh the classic reverse psychology.

      Don't think people are gonna fall for it

    • +6

      Says someone greatly benefiting from colonising everyday..

    • +6

      I've shown my intelligence and common sense by down voting

      I just hope this isn't going to be another thread like the mask one when we all ran out of down votes

      • Downvotes don't go far with guys like this

    • +1

      Downvote completed. 1 x ignorance please.

    • +1

      Thanks for the offer, but I've used up my negs on your previous comments

  • +10

    I don’t think this documentary has aged well at all. It felt necessary at the time, as a voice against the establishment narrative. Now a lot of it feels petty and irrelevant. Time has allowed the richer human story behind the attacks to prevail, leaving deeply biased attack jobs like this looking unbalanced at best.

      • +9

        Yeah it sounds plausible to me given it happened.

      • +7

        So much credibility when you end a sentence with wake up or do your own research….

        Nah, you're totally not a nutcase.

    • +4

      Exactly, as much as I've always hated Bush and his whole admininstration (especially Cheney and Rumsfeld), this is a documentary filled with unproven conspiracy theories and has aged very poorly.

  • +12

    How is this a deal? You save 0%. Looks like a political statement to me.

    • Been on tv plenty of times
      .

      • So have most tv shows that go on sale on DVD.

    • Absolutely. And Ozbargain team seem to support this.

  • +9

    Michael Moore hated Bush, so the documentary is a reflection of that.

    • +1

      So bias I can't watch it. I love watching these stuff but not this one.

      • -1

        name a documentary that isn't biased

  • +1

    What they'd care about the 3000+ dying each day from Covid as much as this

    • +9

      Couldn't blame a brown person for it

    • +1

      *wish they’d

  • +2

    This was an just an operation undertaken by a group of some foreign muslims right? Right?

    • +2

      Correct. They found one of the hijackers passports in tact with full identification after the plane smashed into the building. 😂 Miraculous!!

  • +2

    So glad they managed to find the attacker's passport in the rubble. Thanks for keeping us saving and spreading democracy America!

    • +2

      Building that was built to withstand a plane attack collapses an hour later after being hit yet the passport survived. 🙄

      • Because it was nuclear proof

      • +5

        Haven't heard of a ship that was indestructible have ya?

        • +2

          Exactly. Save your sanity. Can’t argue with these ‘experts’ and their Google degrees

        • +2

          I think you'll find that was more of a White Star/ Irish press marketing proclamation; the ship's builders never said this

          • +1

            @alidli: Sure, in a similar theme the builders of the towers never said they were 767 proof either. Even if they had, doesn't mean they cant be wrong.

  • Hasn't everybody seen it ?

    • +6

      No. There’s a reason it’s free.

  • +6

    thanks to Ozbargains now i know covid was dropped by CIA on China.

    super grateful lol

  • +13

    I may get negative votes for this thought but I always wonder how killings of millions of innocent people including children Vs 4 to 5 thousand Americans in 9/11 can ever be justified.

    I know this will never happen but there should have been hard sanctions imposed on them due to their war crimes and their president's should be terrorisim list.

    • +4

      this doco is made for you

      • -3

        No interest in stupid videos

    • -4

      They would have not stopped if they were not stopped. Should USA have waited for 5,000 more deaths, 10,000, 1,000,000 whats your perfect number before it was "justified"

      • +3

        So someone kill your family and you can go and destroy whole suburb?

        • -2

          I don’t agree at all with the lie used to invade the ME but, during war, targets are taken out and that can and did include civilians. Look at Berlin after the war ended. Having said that, most western countries use much more precise warfare now.

    • Afghanistan has no power so developed countries can pretty much do anything they want with them.

      I really think one of the kids who seen their parents die from drone attacks will grow up with revenge and then do another major attack in the US and then the cycle will continue.

      • Afghanistan was a great country to live in before the Soviets invaded. Just search up Afghanistan in the 60s and 70s. They had huge amounts of libraries + universities and education was highly regarded. The Soviets invaded spreading their communist regime, and subsequently this worried USA who funded the Mujahideen, a rebel group to help fight against the Soviets. The Mujahideen which a lot of been evolved to form into radicalised groups. Al-Qaeda and Osama Bin Laden, and the Taliban being among them.

        • Afghanistan was a modern city before the religious nuts took over. Same thing happened in Iran. Women wore above knee dresses and no hijab, religious nuts have dragged those countries back to the dark ages.

  • +3

    Can they tell us what hit the pentagon?

    • +5

      A plane (Boeing 757)
      You'd think in 20 years, with the growth of Google, you could probably find that out yourself.

      • +3

        Theres no ask jeeve any more to make things easy

        • +1

          Maybe altavista could be an option.

        • Never really did use that… Did use altavista a lot though.

      • -2

        Show me footage

        • +6

          After 20 years, if you still believe conspiracy theories and are unable to at least find some decent backed evidence, reports and eye witness info…well

          I got some bigfoot and Elvis footage you might be interested in instead.

          • +3

            @SBOB: Yeah like the two phone calls that were released by the FBI on board the plane claiming two people using their mobiles whilst in the air. How do you get reception on a mobile at 30000 feet? 🤣

            • +3

              @Duece1995: I wouldn’t be able to explain the technical reasons behind the phone call, but it’s always amusing people who claim the government is so smart and cunning they can execute a false flag event of this magnitude but somehow where sloppy enough to release phone calls that apparently can’t be explained. C’mon man, don’t be ridiculous.

              • +1

                @[Deactivated]: Research it for yourself.

                • @Duece1995: Enlighten me. Share something I can read.

                  • @[Deactivated]: Here are plenty of articles written by intelligent people with an alternative narrative that question the "official" version of events, and provide links to official documents as source material.

                    This article specifically talks about mobile technology at the time and the difference in some of the call/ crash timelines.

                    DISCLAIMER: I'm not saying I agree with anything written by the authors, but before I get the 50+ downvotes for supposedly promoting right-wing nut-job fake news, wacko conspiracy theory bullcrap, at least read some of the stuff and look into the background of the writers (I've already read up on Prof. Michel Choss before anyone rolls their eyes).

                    With the demise of traditional investigative msm reporters, these alternative outlets are the only place you will find individuals looking into the "news" we are fed. Yes, of course they will have their own agendas (don't we all?), but I do take the view that not everything they write can be untrue.

                    I hope you take the time to read several of the articles about 9/11 and other important subjects on there, it may not change your opinion one iota but at least it will hopefully result in you being a bit more sceptical about what we are told by the controlled news channels and our politicians.

                    Also this in case you've never heard of it, again beliefs held by people with engineering degrees and many other specialists.

                    • +1

                      @alidli: At least you have an open mind. I’ll try to read them tonight, for at least being respectful. I’m not saying the false flag event is out of the question. I just simply believe the reported events are accurate.

                      • +1

                        @[Deactivated]: Good onya…….I hope you can find time to read a bit of it…as they say knowledge is power.
                        When others put links on the many threads on OZB disputing the "conspiracy" stuff, I read them as well to stay informed.

                        Unfortunately, quite a few OZ Bargainers are very quick to down-vote or resort to sarcastic/ ad-hominem attacks and call someone a nutter, etc without offering up any facts on the subject but just their own personal opinions on a controversial issue.

                      • @[Deactivated]: If I was going to do some reading, it would be on the credibility of the sources provided.
                        I'd rather be ignorant than have my head filled with nonsense. I don't consider that as "being informed".

    • -3

      A missile. It’s obvious in the footage. The Twin Towers was a controlled demolition. Both buildings fell into their own footprint. A miracle. If a plane did hit the buildings, it’s wings would have sheared off and that didn’t happen. Jet fuel can’t melt steel, but thermite can. Cue the gullible who believe everything they are told and are terrified they will be shown up to be the low IQ they are.

      • -2

        100% the sheep are all asleep.

      • +2

        Cue the gullible who believe everything they are told

        More irony than an Alanis Morissette cd…..

        • -1

          Oh my aching sides…

      • +3

        So how long have you been an expert of aviation accidents? Is there a video or website I can use to make me an expert as well so I feel special?

        • -1

          Seek and you shall find https://youtu.be/0SL2PzzOiF8 and you are special, but not in the way you think you are…

          • +2

            @iCandy: Thanks for nothing. I guess all those eye witnesses who say otherwise are just lying.

            • -2

              @[Deactivated]: Low IQ. Can’t think for yourself. I found one!!

              • +2

                @iCandy: So I’m low IQ because I don’t agree with you? Thanks, that tells me all I need to know about you. Have a great day.

                • -1

                  @[Deactivated]: Yes, yes you are!

                  • +1

                    @iCandy: You’re the kinda guy that would say it was a plane that hit the pentagon if everyone said it’s a missile.

                    • @[Deactivated]: Nah, I am the type of woman who needs proof and doesn’t believe every single thing I’m told. I do my research. You should try it too.

                      • @iCandy: Curious. What’s your view on the WTC then? Was that faked too? Ever consider you are wrong?

                        • @[Deactivated]: You haven’t read my other comments just a little further up, have you? You don’t research very well.

                          • @iCandy: No, I don’t waste my time. I’m only replying now because you are entertaining.

                            • @[Deactivated]: I’m crushed. CRUSHED I tell you!!

                              • +1

                                @iCandy: Candy Crushed?

                                • @[Deactivated]: Now that was funny.

                                  • +1

                                    @iCandy: Gotta admit. I gave myself a little pat for that one.

      • +2

        Cue the gullible

        It would be good for population control but how the hell do you do that with billions of FB Brainwashed Sheep ?

        • It’s easier to fool people than it is to convince them they have been fooled. The low IQ are attacking us now. So great is their fear their stupidity will be discovered,

          • +5

            @iCandy:

            It’s easier to fool people than it is to convince them they have been fooled.

            which is why people believe conspiracy theories so easily, yet deny the simplest of factual information that refutes them

            • @SBOB: That’s the way low IQ people would understand it.

              • +6

                @iCandy:

                That’s the way low IQ people would understand it.

                Of the bell curve of IQ, i'm not sure you and those that still believe 20 year old 9-11 conspiracies about bombs and missiles, are on the side you think you are.

                There's plenty of journals on google scholar to help explain the scientific studies of the link between IQ and conspiracy theory beliefs, should you want to do some of that amazing 'research' you believe in.

                • @SBOB: I’ve probably read them. I’ve read them and found them wanting. Lots of “conspiracy theories” turn out to be true. To be so dismissive is to your detriment.

                  • +1

                    @iCandy: I reckon the govt needs to fund a reverse brainwashing course for those that are nearly beyond repair.
                    And very pronto as they are definitely spreading .

                    • @popsiee: Yes, you strike me as the type to think governments should organise “re-education camps” for those who don’t agree with you. Gee, where else has that been tried??

      • +4

        "Both buildings fell into their own footprint."

        Even your first claim is utter BS.

        "Jet fuel can’t melt steel"

        You dont need to melt steel for it to fail. Nor was Jet fuel the only think on fire. You didn't notice the building that was on fire as well?

        FFS, and you are calling others gullible?

        • -1

          Where is all the steel then???

        • -1

          That isn’t the win you think it is.😂

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