Hi,
I am looking for a new luxury SUV under $120k. Fairly disappointed with Land Rover Defender test drive. Other cars on my list are Lexus RX, Land Rover Evoque and Mercedes.
I need something with good reliability, comfort, safety and performance. Doesn't need to be a 4WD or for towing. 5 seater is enough. I already have a Prado Kakadu for 4WD and towing, etc.
Thank you in advance!
Location: Victoria
Which Luxury SUV Will You Buy. Reliable, Comfy, Value, Performance
chkz84 on 01/08/2021 - 11:59
Last edited 30/08/2021 - 12:38 by 1 other user
Last edited 30/08/2021 - 12:38 by 1 other user
Poll Options
- 6Audi Q7
- 19BMW Alpina D3
- 1Cayenne Turbo GT
- 1F150 Lightning Platinum
- 135Genesis GV80
- 0Haval H9
- 3Hyundai Ioniq 5
- 1Hyundai Palisade
- 2Hyundai Santa Fe Highlander
- 0Kia Sorento Sport Plus
- 0Kodiaq RS
- 43Land Rover Anything
- 5Lexus LX570
- 4Lexus RX
- 2Porsche Macan S
- 0Ssangyong Rexton
- 1Tesla Cybertruck
- 213Tesla Model X
- 0Toyota Alpha
- 184Toyota Camry
- 0Toyota Tarago
- 113Volvo XC90
- 0VW Touareg
- 1VW Touareg 210TDI Wolfsburg Edition
Comments
This is on my list for next year.
BMW X8
Shocking resale value.
Shocking resale value.
Which is why you drive those things to the ground. May take about three years.
Suggested Genesis GV80https://www.genesis.com/au/en/luxury-suv-genesis-gv80.html Would be my pick at the moment.
TBH, it wasn't even on my list but now it is. Thank you! I will test drive it. Thank you!
Saw one of these on the roads this week. Very nice looking car.
My wife and I are waiting to test drive a GV70, and will buy if it lives up to what the reviewers are saying.
It appears to tick all of our boxes.
look out for the cliff edge depreciation…even when compared to the other Europeans…..
It's made in Korea by Hyundai, so should be very reliable and hold its value well, unlike euro brands.
You’re joking right?
Should be reliable, but upcoming luxury brands depreciate like sinking stones. Until they establish as a premium product no one wants to pay premium prices second hand. Their prices reflect the demand, which is low.
came here to say this
Where are the reviews on this car?
Ozbargainers love this tech 'active noise cancellation'!
"As the world’s first vehicle featuring Active Road Noise Control technology, the GV80 minimizes noise from the road surface coming into the vehicle. Using accelerometers and microphones, it detects noise coming into the cabin and releases reverse phase soundwavesthrough speakers inside the vehicle to create a quiet ambience."
Jeez, which world does Hyundai live on? They are far from the first ones to do active noise cancelling inside cars
True, however I think the other car makers worked mainly on countering the engine noise whereas they are claiming road noise control
https://tech.hyundaimotorgroup.com/article/hyundais-worlds-f…
When I drove tesla 3 the very first time (was hoping a quiet drive due to no engine noise) but was a bit disappointed due to some significant road/tyre and wind noise entering the cabin.
Anyways good to see the progress made in this area
@spiderdash: I dunnoe about that, if you look into how active noise cancelling works, it is most suited for road/tyre noise. Seems like a total waste to exclude road noise
Get a 4WD
Doesn't this person already have a prado?
The bit about the Prado was edited in after deme’s post.
Doesn't this person already have a prado?
Eh. I got a Pajero. It's got reliability. It's got performance (off road), with swanky leather seats and wood grain 90s finish steering wheel.
What more could you want‽ Oh and they're out of production now. Soz.
But.. what was wrong with the defender? I wanted one of those but it wasn't available yet.
Me too, because it’s the law.
Defender has some issues and the reliability is critical for us. We took one for a spin yesterday, it has amazing looks but the music system was quite average, we didn't feel much power even on a petrol engine.
Pajero Sport is a good car but we bought a Kakadu last year.pls don't compare kakdu with pajero sport.
You know a Defender cost 2-3 times what a Pajero Sport does? Not many people cross shopping those.
He isn’t.
It's also got a fancy Spanish name 😂🤣
lol, its even funnier with "sport" after it - hahaha
I'm the fastest pajero there is! 0-100 in 10 seconds!
Audi SQ5 or Macan turbo / GTS for performance
Toyota LandCruiser Sahara for reliability and luxuryGo German or Japanese. Avoid that English shite
I agree. German and Japanese cars are the best but my wife likes Land Rover. This poll may help me convince her to take it out of the list. My two friends bought Audi Q7 and a Mercedes each last year. Both cars are regular at the car dealer for ongoing issues. The current issue is the fuel pump (2 months+ waiting for new parts). Mercedes has an issue with the display system.
At Land Rover the first stop after signing the contract is the service department, cause you will be on a first name basis with them after delivery.
Japanese is more reliable than German these days - Cost of ownership mainly - when the exy Germans break, and they do, they break expensive and have shorter warranties.
Not just when they break. My boss pays a fortune to service his macan. He also had a minor ding reversing into something - the repair prices were eye watering.
I actually have a theory that they rely on pride/shame. These cars are marketed at people who "have money" and if they give you a ridiculous price for servicing and repairs, they know the owner will often not question it, because that would imply they are poor. Great scam if you ask me.
Japanese cars have been more reliable than German ones for at least the last 30 years. It's not a new phenomenon.
However, the driving experience of non-econo German cars are a cut above almost anything else. Super-planted road feel courtesy of massive negative castor, best braking capability (along with the fastest wearing friction materials) and really good NVH characterisics make for an enjoyable, albeit expensive drive.
Euro cars are not for people who skimp on maintenance. If you keep up the maintenance, they can be quite reliable.
my wife likes Land Rover
Oh man, you really need to grow a pair my friend!
Oh man, you really need to grow a pair my friend!
Yeah. You tell him. OP has to make all the decisions his wife is only there for decoration. /sarcasm.
In case you were ‘joking’ you need to indicate as such, context is lost in plain text. Without an indication of joking it looks like you promote coercive control.
It’s a negation between partners dude. Besides, it sounds like it’s going to be her car, why shouldn’t she get what she likes? They are buying a $120k car, hardly likely they’ll keep it out of warranty anyway.
Yeah. You tell him. OP has to make all the decisions his wife is only there for decoration. /sarcasm.
You completely lost the memo - this was exactly what I was poking fun at…
FWIW, I don't understand OP's position. If it's his wife's car, then why's he the one posting on forums and making the decision. She should just buy whatever she wants.
Whenever you buy a Luxury SUV you buy the longest warranty. Tech, reliability and road vibration does not come together.
Are you talking brand new? What exactly do you want from the car as there's a fair size and capability difference between an Evoque and a Defender.
Is it just family hauling? Any towing? Why an SUV?Ex demo RSQ3 would be right up there on my list if you don't need a massive car. If you do, then the Genesis GV80 mentioned above.
Porsche Macan, Volvo XC90 and Toureg R Line could potentially make the cut.Added Volvo to the list now. Thank you
What does it mean it handles like a boat? Go find a boat or a Volvo.
Don't add an XC90 to the list. It's about to be replaced.
Agree - heard multiple people happy with new Touareg R Line. Not a traditional prestige brand but really its becoming so. Better would be Wolfsburg Edition
Tesla Model Y
I guess to be fair OP didn't say it had to be good looking
Tesla is only selling Tesla 3 at the moment in Australia.
I have driven Tesla 3. Great features but it's fairly small. Wife prefers SUVs. 😞You can test drive the model Y, it was a massive car for me.
You can test drive Model Y in Australia already?
The first three RHD Model Y have landed in Australia, possibly for complaince, crash testing, or training. Online ordering should be 'soon'.
Tesla website allows you to preorder the Cybertruck. But model Y will be tha last country to actually get it. Have you driven the Merc EQ series?
I would look at Electric only. I have an electric SUV and would never consider another ICE car especially since it is your second car and you have the Parado for towing and long trips.
Check out:
Tesla Model Y launching soon ~$65-110k for different options.
Mercedes EQA launched recently
Hyundai Ioniq 5 this year
Porsche Macan Electric 2022These will all suit your family needs the worse thing is getting back into the Diesel after driving electric almost ruins your other car.
"Reliable, Comfy, Value, Performance"
pick only 2 parameters.Personally Lexus RX
Lexus RX 2022 is coming in 2-3 months. I hope I can make my wife wait for a little.
Aside from the defender (a 4wd) they are all much the same. Cost too much, drop in price unbelievably, cost a fortune in parts and are so full of tech they aren’t easy to fix when something goes wrong.
Just go drive them all and decide which one you like.
Why do you want such an overpriced vehicle?
This is OzBargain, our favourite cars are Corolla and Camry hybrid. You are unlikely to get a lot of help in the $120k SUV range.
Asking about a hybrid Camry is hardly flexing though
Luxury SUVs don't cost too much. They are actually a bargain compared to their sedan/wagon counterparts. Usually $20-30k cheaper for the same spec.
Of course. My bad. $120k is a complete bargain for a car.
It's all relative.
This is OzBargain, our favourite cars are Corolla and Camry hybrid. You are unlikely to get a lot of help in the $120k SUV range.
I'd respectfully disagree. There are a lot of folk in here that wouldn't be interested in purely utilitarian vehicle. The responses should amply demonstrate this.
Why do you want such an overpriced vehicle?
It's an interesting question isnt it? If you look at the family vehicle as a pure expense for an "appliance"/experience (instead of some type of store of value/asset) would that reconcile a bit better?
Of course. To each their own.
With ‘luxury’ products you get diminishing returns. It costs more and more but you get less overall improvement. You pay twice as much for a Merc SUV than a Hyundai but You don’t get twice the value. It’s still a car, maybe a bit more powerful, maybe handles better maybe more comfortable but it probably only costs an extra 30% to make it.
You pay twice as much for a Merc SUV than a Hyundai but You don’t get twice the value. It’s still a car, maybe a bit more powerful, maybe handles better maybe more comfortable but it probably only costs an extra 30% to make it.
…and there is where the crux lies though. What exactly is the value proposition and what do you seek to get out of it.
For some, its the entire package: the aesthetics, the power, the comfort, interior quality of materials used etc. A lot of folk are not interested in the resale value etc.
It's sort of the difference between a well made home cooked meal vs a decadent meal at a fancy establishment.
For instance, I find Lexus interiors absolutely ugly as sin, so I would chose a Q5 or a GLB over an RX350.That said a full featured Palisade looks quite nice.
@ThadtheChad: I fear most have been sucked into the hype and are buying to impress someone, be it family, friends, workmates or just fandoms. The marketers have brainwashed us to believe that a Merc is soooo much better than a Hyundai and those that buy them have fallen for it.
Yeah it is like a great home cooked meal vs a snobby restauran. You are paying for some perceived elite experience that in reality costs much the same to produce.
@ThadtheChad: Lexus interiors = riceboy got old, rich and confused as to what type of design he wanted in a car.
If you have money to burn buy a Landcruiser, or put 50k on a Pajero and spend 50-70k on some fun car like a Ford Mustang.
For a second I thought you were calling 'Salvos'.
Why? Kinda need to at least push the engine over 4000RPM to even try to start having fun! 🤣
You didn't read the original post at all.
I landrcruiser is 120 grand in top spec anyway isn't it?
Edit: 171k
GLA 45
I had an XC90 in Germany 2 years ago for a week or so. Did several thousand kms with 4 adults and full luggage easy. Super comfy, all the tech etc. Only thing that annoyed me was so many shiny trim pieces on the dash, was actually blinding at times.
A year later and still asking the OzB brains trust…
Really, there's enough info on here and Whirlpool already to work out what's good and bad
He bought his Pajero last year.
This thread is about a luxury suv.
This thread is about a luxury suv.
So was that thread… Or didn't you read it?
Stay away from Landrover, many problems and not reliable unfortunately,
Suggested Land Rover AnythingIf it’s not a Land Rover… is it really a luxury SUV? Used to work for Land Rover, would happily buy one… (with your money…)
And in the interest of throwing curve balls… have you looked at the Genesis GV80? Gets a pretty good wrap. But then again, it probably doesn’t have that
shit quality control issuesinteresting quirks that big Euro SUV’s have.And in the interest of throwing curve balls
Literally the 2nd comment 😂
Just throwing my weight behind the GV80. If it’s good enough for Tiger Woods to throw over an embankment, it’s good enough for me
I'm guessing he didn't pay for the car and also didn't like it because he intentionally went over said embankment.
I'm impressed with how well the poll is going
- Suggested Toyota Camry
Poll needs a poll option, so I added one. Cept they're under moderation… Dumb
Who's going to place the first vote?
Or are the voting results hidden?Or model 3, the new EV version that works out cheaper in the long run
Camry is good suggestion.
Reliable, solid car.Don't need moderation. The other suggestions have been good
Couple of things.
A Defender is not a luxury SUV. It has a Spartan interior, and is designed as a go anywhere family transport. It is ridiculously overpriced in Australia for what it is. The high end versions are $150k.
The Evoque is tiny, and it's a terrible car. It's a Range Rover in marketing terms only, it's actually just a Land Rover Freelander (what they call a Discovery Sport, another marketing exercise) in drag, but with less space inside. Rear headroom is a joke. The car is actually an ancient design, the platform is called the PTA, which is an evolution of the D8, which is actually a Ford EUCD platform, and forms the basis for the 2007 Ford Mondeo. Teh car has no actual off-road ability (not that you appear to want it). Only morons buy this car.
The Lexus RX is an old platform, with terrible infotainment. I guess it wont ever break down. It shares a platform with a Camry, if that bothers you. It is front wheel drive biased. I personally would never buy a long wheel base front wheel drive or front biased car. At the limit of traction, when you really need predictability, long wheel base and front wheel drive don't play nice. It might never happen to you, but if it does, you'll end up in a ditch. Personally I don't find Lexuses to be luxurious. To me they feel like what a 1980s car thought luxury was.
You didn't mention which Mercedes model you were looking at, but anything in the GLE range is a good car (and even the 4 cylinders aren't ridiculously underpowered), but I'd opt for the 6 or 8 cylinders. Very luxurious interior, great infotainment, sorted platform.
Equal is the BMW X5, you could sneak into a 3.0d for that money, and its another take on Germanic SUV. Not as luxurious as the GLE, but a good car none the less. You could also opt for an X3 4.0i or even possibly a demo X3 M Competition (I don't know, prices might have gone up). X3 and X5 are very similar, just size differences really. The one thing that annoys me about BMWs is the shitty cracked surface textured plastic they still use on all the surfaces below lap height. It's awful, again like something from the 80s. They even use it on the 7 Series and X7. Look at the seat bottoms, door bottoms etc for it.
You could also get a base Range Rover Sport. Good car, reasonably luxurious, but getting old. This a million times over a Lexus RX.
There is a vast difference between an $80k SUV and a $120k SUV, and you seem to be looking at the lower end of the scale.
As someone else mentioned, you could wait for the Model Y, it will be here by the end of the year. You could get a top of the line performance model in your budget.
If it was up to me, and I needed it now, I'd see if BMW or Mercedes would give me the best deal, but I'd also bear in mind that BMW love doing LCI updates every few years, so your brand new SUV might well be outdated inside a year or two. If money was the same, and engines were similar (Say a GLE400d vs an X5 3.0d), I'd chose the Merc.
If it was up to me, and I needed it now, I'd see if BMW or Mercedes would give me the best deal, but I'd also bear in mind that BMW love doing LCI updates every few years, so your brand new SUV might well be outdated inside a year or two. If money was the same, and engines were similar (Say a GLE400d vs an X5 3.0d), I'd chose the Merc.
Nah, get outta here - the GLE400D looks like trash, it basically looks like a box on wheels. The X5 actually looks like a car.
GLE400D looks like any other Mercedes SUV.
An SUV is by defintion a box on wheels.
I dont want to cast aspersions but who wants to spend up to $120k on an SUV but it doesnt have to be 4wd???
What???
Audi biturbo 4L turbo Q7
It's a collector's car at this point, you'll never find one for sale. Even if you did, you'd need very deep pockets.
Oh, the 4 litre version….did they make one? I thought it was a 6 litre engine (the v12)
I would go GLE at the 120k price point. Personally I went to the GLB 250 at the 80k price point and very happy with it. 7seater SUV, best in its price segment atm.
GLE 450!
Why the surprise? This is a thread about luxury SUVs, a GLE450 is hardly a shock option.
BMW X5