A little bit cheaper than the previous deal from B&H Photo - https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/633867
Google Pixel 3 (64GB, 4GB RAM) 5.5 QHD+, IP68 Water Resistant, Snapdragon 845 GSM/CDMA Factory Unlocked (AT&T/T-Mobile/Verizon/Sprint)
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Genuinely interested, what impact does this have?
Does it mean that the more time passes from that 10/21 date, the more ways to breach/hack this specific phone there are?
I have a pixel 2xl. Since security updates stopped last year I've had zero breaches and no one has hacked my phone
Essentially when something gets patched on a newer phone, everyone will know what exploits exist on this phone. A lot of the OS security fixes won't be super critical from day 1, but as vulnerabilities add up, eventually there will be a pretty wide attack surface. If you don't download random apps off the store and stick to the main ones, and don't go to websites of ill repute, the lack of security updates likely won't be an issue for even a few years. Hopefully at that point you an move to a custom OS like lineageOS or something.
Thanks for clearing this up, sounds like it won't be a concern for me, and as you said I can look at installing a custom OS down the line.
If it's that important, you sure will get it.
Pixel 2 receive updates through google play system update which is a different way to send security patches.
Lineage OS will solve this.
They only provide support for 3 years wtf.
unlimited Google photo if i buy this?
Full quality unlimited upload until Jan 2022 then after that, you can still upload for free, but at high quality only.
https://support.google.com/photos/answer/6220791?hl=en&co=GE…
Tks! seems a bit tempting!
I think they call high quality storage "storage saver" now.
Is it only for Pixel 3? Will Pixel 4a/Pixel 5 not have high quality free unlimited upload?
Pixel 4a/5 also have high quality (called "storage saver") for life.
Sometimes I feel unlimited cloud storage is overrated.
Cloud storage can be bought from Google One; $2.50/month (or $25/year) for 100GB
Depends on your usage. Some people use up 100gb really quickly.
Yep. And the next tier is 200GB which is not much difference. 2TB is 125/yr which is half the price of this phone, or the same price as a Pixel 1/2.
How does this compare to iPhones? Like iPhone 8?
Use gsm arena website to compare specs but the Ecosystem is the most important factor here. I think you should stick to what you know… unless you hate it.
so some will buy this for the semi-lifetime cloud storage ability
Better find a pixel 1 on FB market and only use the phone for that purpose. At least that's why I'm keeping mine.
Having said that you get 100gb for $24 a year. G1 will prob still cost you $75-$100 with the inconvenience of having to copy your pictures across devices etc…
But G1 is $25/yr forever. A pixel is a one off payment.
I use my old Pixel purely for long-term storage. Transfer/archive photos to it for free permanent hosting.
@TogTogTogTog: At some point the phone is going to die though, so you're really just negating several $25/yr payments
@TogTogTogTog: I do the same, only upload pictures taken prior the release of G1 lol. But the depends on much you value your time since you have to split the upload when you max out the storage of the phone… ^^
I set mine up with Syncthing so it automatically syncs when both phones are on the same network. Mine sends photos across and G1 uploads it automatically.
@Bottom G: You do main phone -> G1 -> cloud automatically? Do you mind sharing how you do ? Or you going through a NAS?
May i know what happens if I miss one year subscription? Will they delete or block my access to storage?
Edit: Just googled
If you're over your quota for 2 years or longer: If you don't free up or purchase more space to get back under quota, all of your content may be removed from Gmail, Google Photos, and Google Drive (this includes Google Docs, Sheets, Slides, Drawings, Forms, and Jamboard files).
@hopper: Does that mean all you need to do is purchase one month every two years to stop it expiring?
Yeah, it goes from my phone straight to G1.
I installed syncthing on both devices, link them together using the app and on my main phone and specify what folders it should sync across.
On G1, I don't specify any folders (cos I don't want stuff coming back) and enable the auto upload to Google photos (disable it on your main phone).
Take a few test photos and see if it gets pushed across. You can check in your Google account which ones take up storage and which don't.
I set syncthing on my main phone to only sync when plugged in to charge also. It's always on for the G1 since that's in a permanent plugged in state.
The best part of doing it this way vs getting a Google cloud subscription - if you forget to pay the bill, you don't lose all your stuff.
@Bottom G: Mate you're a legend. Thanks heaps for the heads up. Set up my phone, now need to set up the laptop.
@BuyNow Think Later: I do it on the PC because it's easier:
In Google photos > click on storage on the left. Under Review & Delete, it will show how much space is being used by photos/videos that isn't part of the free quota.
Anything there I want to keep, i just download and reupload via the Pixel.
@Bottom G: That can be a good project for lock down!!
Two question:
1 So if I go buy a Pixel today and activate it against my GMail, I will still get unlimited photos?
2 Will I be about to push RAW photos through the Pixel and still count as unlimited?
The Google account on the Pixel phone can be any one I suppose, since it's just uploading to it.
@Bottom G: Thanks for the overview.
Can I ask, could I sync 2 source phones to the 1 pixel phone to upload? Presumably it would obviously only upload to the one G1 account (which could be shared to the other user)
@JDKC: From what I saw in Syncthing, you can sync between multiple devices including your PC to phone.
Now you can finally have a place to store all those memes you find.
100gb actually goes pretty quickly (even on the high quality image storage setting).
So then you have to go to the 200gb plan… and then the 1tb plan.
If I do get a pixel and able to upload for free. Will the photos be free to access with other devices for life?
yes, once it's up in Google Photos it's always there for you (and Google) to see
What about videos?
@TomGum: videos still cont to your quota so you can choose to upload them or not. I personally don't. I got a separate drive for them.
If you don't care about audio and quality, you could always turn your videos into gifs :P
@Bottom G: 'You get unlimited free storage at Original quality for all photos and videos backed up to Google Photos from Pixel 3 through Jan 31, 2022. Photos and videos backed up on or before that date will remain free at Original quality. After January 31, 2022 new photos and videos will be backed up in Storage saver quality (previously named High quality) for free. Photos and videos backed up in Original quality will count toward your Google Account storage.'
This is copy from Google - sounds like videos are included in the unlimited storage.
Why? I get over 150mbps on my 4G and from what I understand 4G works much further from the towers than 5G. Is a gigabit connection on your phone really needed?
Your post is very hard to decode, but from my understanding 4G operates at a lower frequency than 5G, so can bend and penetrate further in an urban environment than 5G. It apparently needs far fewer towers for the same coverage as 5G.
I know 5G offers better speeds, but on a mobile device I find 150mbps sufficient. The WiFi on my mobile device only goes upto something like 500/600mbps, and user experience between operating it on WiFi or cellular is almost indistinguishable.
I'm not sure what your beer analogy means at all. I choose not to have 5G access because I don't see the benefit. I certainly wouldn't buy a phone just to have 5G. When I get migrated to it, fine, but it's not something I feel I need.
@[Deactivated]: 5G phones also cover 4G bands so there no disadvantage with a 5G phone.
Are you saying there are no areas where you might have 5G coverage but no 4G coverage?
@matt-ozb: Possibly, it's all to do with tower placement. But that's absolutely not what I'm saying. I'm saying that 4G is likely to have far better coverage because of physics, and the large existing infrastructure.
@[Deactivated]: I think I'm saying there are no downsides with 5G (other than the small cost of a carton of beer or two) so why not make sure you have the best coverage possible .. no need have anxiety thinking that your life may have been better if only you had a 5G phone.
@matt-ozb: If you get anxiety and think your life is made better by having a 5g phone, you've got serious problems (if that wasn't already obvious).
was messed up knowing that I could have 5G access for the same price
What? Unless 4g coverage was being reduced, I think this is a fallacy. 5g is just about speed for the user, and scalability/infrastructure for the provider.
Tbh, if I was paying for a 5g plan already, I would want a 5g phone too. Not a valid reason to neg the comment. I'm on belong so 5g is not an option. Lack of update is more the reason to pass.
And guys … you used to neg me for complaining about products still using micro USB .. now years later, everyone gets a positive when highlighting old school features like micro USB.
Only the pixel 2 though?
Oops my bad
The description mentions pixel 3
Is it new or used?
Concerned with this also, one of the latest reviews mentions that it came with fingerprints, screen film removed and no charger.
Also, a related item, the Pixel 4a specifies 'New' in the item title. Pretty concerning
If I am reading correctly the Pixel to Google Free uploads are at a lower quality (storage saver) not the full resolution
"You get unlimited free storage at Original quality for all photos and videos backed up to Google Photos from Pixel 3 through Jan 31, 2022. Photos and videos backed up on or before that date will remain free at Original quality. After January 31, 2022 new photos and videos will be backed up in Storage saver quality (previously named High quality) for free. Photos and videos backed up in Original quality will count toward your Google Account storage."
https://support.google.com/photos/answer/6220791?hl=en&co=GE…
I think concerning thing about the reviews on Amazon is:
" Not fully unlocked. Item description states that this phone is factory unlocked. Unfortunately, this is not true and Verizon requires 60 days of service before actually unlocking the phone for use with another service. I have no intention of signing up with Verizon. Unable to use- returning.
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Not that I would be using it with Cellular (I'd only use it to upload photos really). But it is still concerning for those who do want to use it as a phone here in Oz.
How much for the pink one?
Will this get Android 12 later this year?
Yes. I've got the 3xl with 12 beta currently.
Oops, raported this as sold out but glitch and now still available.
but now the price is $20 more expensive
Beat me to a quick edit. Yes, more like +-$120 more.
…yes they just added an extra $100, just keeps going up.
Best value for one of the best phone cameras out there. Very impressive.
I have both 2 & 3 but photos from 3 doesn't look as good as 2. Especially in the morning or cold temperatures or during night. Not a delusion as I compared them side delusion. Huge difference in white balance and sharpness.
Have you ever had an experience with older or newer pixels to compare?
Haven't compared directly. But I'm always impressed with each new pixel edition.
No issues with any carriers in OZ?
Damn this is a really old phone.
No guaranteed security updates after October, 2021.