A steal for this kit, especially considering current DRAM prices.
If you'd rather RGB, Amazon AU currently have Corsair Vengeance RGB PRO 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 3600MHz C18 Black for $129, and Centre Com have Kingston HyperX FURY RGB 16GB (2x8GB) 3200MHz C16 DDR4 for $129.
Edit: $96.14 with CC/PayPal surcharge.
This is the case for every Centrecom deal. Guess most Ozbargainer live in metro areas…
And all deals comes with "free shipping" on title ignoring those who are charged for that lol
i want the 32gb in 2 sticks !
how long does Amazon discounts usually last? probably going to get the Corsair ones but would like to buy those as part of my 5 transactions with ING next month.
What chips does it use?
probably crappy micron
I thought micron-e was valued in RAM fan circles?
or is it CL18 that makes this crap?
Micron is average at best.
CL18 is a hard no for AMD, Intel you will get away with it.
@ozturtle: Not entirely true. As long as the die is capable, modifying the CAS from 18 to a lower latency such as 14 or 16 is very possible and beneficial.
@ozturtle: total false information.
Micron holds world OC record with it's 16Gbit B-Die, and previously with it's 8Gbit E-Die.
The better bin Micron 16Gbit B-Die/8Gbit E die has the second lowest tRCD when OCed over 3600Mhz, second lowest tCL, being the only other memory IC able to do CL14 on 3600 some what consistently, next to the good Samsung B-Die Bins which is the King of Memory OC
Micron 16Gbit B-die/8Gbit E-Die is super consistent in terms of frequency OC, even with the worse bins it will still OC to at least 4000.
With regarding 3600cl18 on AMD, everyone knows it's the glorified version of 3200c16, so the latency isn't that bad in the first place, also AMD will have a huge performance uplift running higher Infinity Fabric speed, in another word although 3600c18 = 3200c16 in terms of RAM latency itself, running 3600 on AMD means IF speed will be on 1800Mhz, running 3200 means IF speed on 1600Mhz.
no doubt getting 3600c17 or lower means guaranteed to get good memory IC and has better latency, whereas almost ALL new-ish memory IC able to run 3600c18, it doesn't mean 3600c18 sucks, it's slightly above average for sure.
@dbmitch: depends… Every memory IC manufacturer has some IC sucks on Mem OC, Samsung have the OC King B-Die as well as lots of other garbage, so does Hynix, so does Micron. Say if you got early 8Gbit Micron B-Die, it sucks hard, it can't even hit 3200c16 properly, but doesn't mean micron don't have good chip right?
I just hate people judge technology by company, every company have god tier product made intended or non-intended, the same company also have shit products stinks so much.
Another example would be: Gigabyte B450 mobos that have 4 RAM slot all SUCKS at memory OC that can't even hit 3600Mhz consistently, but their low end B450m-H or B450m S2H with only 2 RAM slot can do 5000Mhz memory OC. Can I simply say Gigabyte make crappy mobos?
@ozturtle: Depends if you're running 1:1 IF at 4000mhz CL18 (9ns) then your latency is very similar to 3200 at CL14 (8.75ns) and with a higher frequency so it'd be faster for the most part.
Samsung C-die is also a possibility
micron e die is just as good as b die wtf
Micron holds world OC record with it's 16Gbit B-Die, and previously with it's 8Gbit E-Die.
The better bin Micron 16Gbit B-Die/8Gbit E die has the second lowest tRCD when OCed over 3600Mhz, second lowest tCL, being the only other memory IC able to do CL14 on 3600 some what consistently, next to the good Samsung B-Die Bins which is the King of Memory OC
Micron 16Gbit B-die/8Gbit E-Die is super consistent in terms of frequency OC, even with the worse bins it will still OC to at least 4000 with loosen tRCD.
AFAIK anything that can achieve 3600c18 somewhat consistently. Good ones you have CJR/DJR/ RevE/RevB /Samsung B die
To name a few not so good ones out there: Hynix JJR, 1JR, Samsung C Die, Nanya A-Die.
Bought these last week for $110-odd. FML.
Tempted to buy these and run a 4x8GB setup.
GSkill use mixed memory IC on the same model number, good luck finding a second kit with the same IC especially when you shop online.
My motherboard (Gigabyte GA-AX370-Gaming 3) says it only supports up to 3200Mhz, will this work? or am I better off waiting for a deal on 3200Mhz RAM. Currently running 16gb of 2400mhz cl16.
Not sure of the answer to your question, but Centre Com also have this on special - RGB 3200MHz C16 kit for $129.
It was both CPU and motherboard dependent.
My previous X370 Taichi could barely hit 3466 on samsung B-die with 2700x and I have to use 3200, same CPU same RAM on ASUS X370 Pro could only run 3000 no matter what.
Once I upgraded my 2700x taichi build to 3700x, I can instantly hit 3600 with the same ram same board.
But I couldn't hit any higher than 3600Mhz on taichi, same CPU on a 4 layer Daisy Chain board could hit 3800 with ease.
If you have Ryzen 1000, you should be happy settle on 2933 ish, if ryzen2000, you should be able to hit 3200 ish, ryzen3000 on wards you should expect around 3466/3600 with the memory topology on your board.
Surely this kit would run at 2400mhz c16, I would expect 3200mhz c16 shouldn't be a problem either.
DDR4 is mature, it's almost end of life. A lot of kits are going to have arbitrary binning below what they can achieve
Also as OMGJL explained, the memory controller is in the CPU, the specs for a x370 board would have been determined on first gen ryzen, but a newer CPU should outperform them
Would this be a good purchase for when I receive my Dell Aurora R12?
Though I think I read the Dell does 3200-3400 …
Aurora systems are very picky with which ram you use. Either get an identical ram stick on ebay, or get a kit with guaranteed compatibility.
Ah crap .. last thing I wanted to hear lol
But thanks
Does your system come with a single stick?
@aveeno bb: i don't have it yet … but it's going to be coming with 2x8gig
Dell wanted $499 to upgrade it to 32gig … bit expensive if you ask me
@CereaL: Yeah it's a rip off. I believe the system doesn't support 4x8gb setup either, meaning if you want 32gb need to go 2x16gb.
May need to be careful as these may be coming from a mining rig…. These guys may have changed their ways but the past shows them sending people used components packaged up as new.
Centre Con at it again
Any reference?
do a search on OzB for the store name. You will find heaps of comments on various components including motherboard, ram and video cards…
Maybe, but never had an issue with them.
Tried searching, couldn't find any references
Am I missing something? Why would it matter if RAM comes from a mining rig? And what makes you think this specific product would be from a mining rig? Seems like a weird statement on a RAM post
my thoughts exactly.
i dont think mining rigs have more than 4gb of ram
Smells like FUD to me
You missed the point completely… I guess I would prefer my RAM to be new if buying new, otherwise head to FB marketplace and get a used pair of RAM for cheaper than listed here.
I missed the point because it's a shit point lol, it's conjecture. You're essentially saying don't buy anything from Centrecom. I've bought from them 10s of times and never had a used product.
FYI - This is the CL18 model, the CL16-16-16-36 model which uses Samsung B-die are F4-3600C16D-16GVK, but are also twice the price.
https://www.gskill.com/product/165/184/1536113464/F4-3600C16…
For reference, I run a 5800X on an MSI MAG X570 Tomahawk WiFi with 4x8GB of the F4-3600C16D @3600Mhz CL16
I never understood why people buy $200+ sticks of 2x8gb CL16 3600mhz when you can downclock 4400mhz sticks to CL14 3600mhz at almost half the price? Am I missing something here?
I actually owned 2x8GB of F4-3600C16D-16GVK back when I had my Ryzen 1700 back in 2017, so to spend the extra wasn't too bad.
Also, the RAM is on the MSI supported memory compatibility to run at 3600 with all 4x 8GB sticks. Curious, what sticks of 4400Mhz RAM can you get for less and will work at those speeds you mentioned?
These Patriot 4400Mhz sticks maybe?
I have them running 3600Mhz CL16 in a similar setup to yours (5800X, MSI MAG x570 Tomahawk). Haven’t played with timings too much, but supposedly I can tighten it some more.
@R3XNebular: Will need the motherboard model to find out whether they are listed as compatible, otherwise should be listed in your manual.
@Master Bates: Not listed as compatible. I'm wondering whether I can slot in 4400hz ram and drop it to a compatible speed or won't the system post at all
@R3XNebular: I'm no expert, but when I inserted the RAM it defaulted to 2133Mhz and I selected a better optimised XMP profile from the UEFI. If 4400Mhz is not listed on your MB manufacturers Qualified Vendors List (QVL) I expect what the manufacturer is saying is you won't be able to overclock to 4400Mhz, but you might get it to post at default and possibly a better XMP from there.
You might want to consult a dedicated PC Build forum on Overclockers, Reddit, Discord or similar for better advice. However, if you're buying from Amazon they're pretty good with returns as long as you open things carefully. Make sure to read the fine print about returns and buy from Amazon, not a 3rd party.
People follow old data. When the $200 price was determined, 4400mhz sticks didn't exist
I'm waiting for crucial ballistic 16gb RGB cl16 to come in price to around $150.
Red RGB now $144.50 for 3200, $158.95 for 3600.
Red would look silly in my build and stick out like donkey balls, lol
I'm getting a 403 - Forbidden Access is denied on https://www.centrecom.com.au, anyone else getting this?
Nope, I can access fine
Thanks, they've blocked the VPN IP (Australian) for some reasons.
Hi all. If a have corsair 16GB (3000 c15 8x 2 sticks ). Would it work with the newer faster ram? TIA
Anyone get the Adata spectrix D50 rgb white kit from them 32gb 2 X for $119?
Mine is doing 3800 cl16 and get about 59-63.9 ns latency. Micron die
link?
Link please
any deals on a 2x16gb 3200/3600mhz rgb kit?
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