I bought a fake Rolex watch (Oyster Perpectual Explorer) 20+ years ago while travelling through HK. It cost me A$15.00 at the time. I hardly wear it these days but it still works well and hasn't lost any precision - no battery needed too :). I would be just as happy if it were a real Rolex.
Have you bought any fake watch that is almost as good as the real thing for a fraction of the price?
/WT
I have some money to spend and have been eyeing an IWC, or even a Vacheron if I blow almost all of my rainy day savings.
But I’m 100% with you: it just doesn’t make sense to me.
"cost A$15.00
still works well
hasn't lost any precision
no battery needed too
fraction of the price"
Sounds like you have answered your own question!
Watches for the most part are jewellery that tell the time. The prestige is not in its function but in its display of style and wealth/success. Fake jewellery is exactly that. Looks the same, does the same thing but is not a true reflection of what it is supposed to represent.
Saying that if you like the look of your watch, it accurately tells the time and it ticks all the boxes then whatever. If people judge you based on your watch then you just need to comfortable with the perception of others and if you care.
there is $15 dollar fakes like your one, and there is 700 dollar super fakes at the moment,
they are getting very very close to authentic Rolex, the only you can tell them apart is with a monocular, handheld loupe magnifier to see the very tiny details that could give it away, you cannot tell with the naked eye. also another way to tell is to open the watch from the back and have a look in there too, some of these super fakes out of china atm this is the only way to tell if its fake is to open it up.
my view with super fakes is i rather wear a homage, because at least a homage is not claiming its rolex, it has its own logo and name, but it mimics a rolex %99 of it at least. one of the best bang for buck homage watch companies as of now and very popular is the Pagani Design homage watches, they have the same quality parts of watches as high as 500 dollars. they use similar materials, here is a comparison watch it and you will know what i mean.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7E43zAwE2Zo
and they cost under 100 USD delivered which is unbelievable value for money. it uses a reliable Seiko Japanese movement. full steel construction, a real ceramic bezel, and a real sapphire crystal lens which is hard to find on most 500 dollar watches let alone a sub 100usd dollar watch. i personally love the look of some rolex watches, thats why i get a homage that gives me the same feel and look with bang for buck reliability and quality for 1/300 of the cost of a real one.
I didn't even know "super fakes" existed until reading the comments here.
My $15 fake certainly doesn't look as impressive as the Pagani. Perhaps I should make a video and upload it to YouTube to see how everyone thinks :)
The Pagani is not a super fake. It is a homage.
Super fakes use the same branding as the original and try to copy exactly the original.
(At least that is my understanding)
I am a "watch enthusiast" and I would buy a good Rolex Explorer I replica.
Partially it would be Rolex's own fault, the market is broken, you can't buy one at even the inflated RRP and I refuse to pay premium to the profiteers flourishing around corrupt dealerships.
if you can genuinely afford the real deal, then wearing a fake is no problem. Just dont be a 21 year old driving a clapped out commodore claiming that $60k Breitling on your wrist is real…
Not sure about Rolex, but I bought a cheap Casio digital watch for $15 back in 2008, it's still going strong. And I haven't even changed the battery once.
I would never buy an $8000 Rolex but I own 2 Bali $25 ones :) over 10 years old and work fine and look good, I just dont wear them as I have a Mi fit lol
I bought a $9000 Rolex and 5 years later I can sell it for a lot more than $9000.
I bought a bitcoin for $20 and 5 years later I can sell it for a lot more than $9000.
Pretty much anything that has any value has gone up (thanks to money printing) - the real question is how much has it gone up by.
Did you wear your Bitcoin for the last 5 year ?
Also the point is buying fake item also means throwing your money away.
I think we need a 'Clown of the Week' award for posts like this.
@john71: Ask and you shall receive.
Here I am presenting you with the “Clown of the Week”. 🤡🏆🥇.This award recognise the effort of john71 for being an absolute clown in this thread. Well done and Congrats !
If you like the look of it and it keeps time then why does it matter. If it's a reasonable copy of a high grade watch then it might possibly out you at increased risk of being robbed though.
Real watch people know what’s fake and real. They may not say anything to your face but they will think of you appropriately.
Some years back I had a friend who wore a fake Tag Heuer. No one gave a toss.
No one gave a toss to his face. That’s the difference
Who’s going to say publicly “that’s clearly a fake”
If you can afford real Rolex you should buy one, if you can't - everyone will think it's fake even if you spent your life savings to buy real one.
On the other hand I know people who bought very expensive gold watches and have gold plated expensive replicas for everyday wear. It's a sort of status thing that is required in some circles and real thing was bought to fit in. In that particular case CEO was a huge Breitling aficionado (only as a brand, no actual knowledge of watches) and all C-levels were wearing Breitling to make him happy.
Fake it till you make it.
Honestly when i was a uni student i was obsessed with an Omega Aqua Terra and a Panerai Ceramica.
Combined i would've forked out close to $15k.
Instead bought 2 replicas for ~$250 each.
They've both worked for the past 7 years, with infrequent wearing. Only downside is i'm not confident of their water resistance.
Honestly they look exactly the same right down to their movements.
Would i buy them again?
No, now that i have a full time job and a decent salary i'd much rather buy the real thing - currently running a Speedmaster and Tag heuer Carrera chrono. I can't sleep easy knowing i don't have the hollow feeling of being a poser anymore.
Did i enjoy rocking what looked to be an $8k watch at uni?
God yes.
I'm fairly sure what you've said still makes you a poser.
It's the same theory of people who buy BMW's, Ferraris etc.
They don't necessarily do the job any better than say a Hyundai that gets you from A to B
But its know that there's a significant amount of engineering that's gone into creating it,
From an engineering perspective it's nice knowing there's hundreds of individual parts on your wrist all moving in unison.
And when money isn't as much of an object as in university it doesn't really concern me that it may cost $5000-$10000
I wouldn’t consider bmws in the same class as Ferrari’s.
I'd never wear one personally. I would wear a homage but not one which copies a distinct design. I've come extremely close to buying an Omega homage, but just wouldn't feel right wearing it.
My general opinion is that over the top branding detracts from you as a person. I try to wear and buy things with no or minimal branding.
There are plenty of legitimate brands which make decent watches at all price points so it's not simply a style choice. Taking the Submariner as an example, there's the Deerfun, Casio, Invicta, Tisell, Steinhart and Ginault. When you talk about super fakes, or fakes in general, chances are there are abuses of human rights involved in their production.
There are a lot of arguments that could be made such as what does Swiss made mean, where/what is the value of a brand that is constantly changing hand.
If you feel the need wear a replica, or even a genuine watch, to impress other people then you have problems. It's basically the same thing as sticking a Ferrari body kit on a Hyundai.
Having said all that, if you're not sticking it in my face or trying to draw attention to it, it's probably not something I or anyone else would care about.
I really don't get why guys buy very expensive watches. Just like I don't get why women spend over 10K on a handbag. …I just don't get it.
I think what we're all dying to know is if it actually says "Perpectual" on the dial? It would be worth it for that alone.
There are levels of fake. Check out r/reptime if you want some useful info on replica watches.
Also, wear whatever the hell makes you happy. Just don't be a jerk and pretend to have genuine stuff if you don't.
For something that costs $15 or $20, it's almost like a disposable item. I doubt anyone will confuse it with the real thing (Rolex).
Yeah but there are levels of 'fake'.
$100 and under: Fake. Most people could possibly tell from a glance or feel.
$100 to $1000: Replica. Still not genuine obviously but would fool most people.
I don't own any rep watches because I actually like timepieces that look different and unique but if you want an Omega or Rolex and genuinely can't afford one, there are quality replicas out there.
Plenty of good points above. It depends on where you want to put your money. I might be happy with a cheap 20$ rolex because I don't care about the movement or the material. I am not comfortable with a fake graphics card or fake pair of boobs 🤣
Fake boobs? Don't diss them till you try them!
My ex went from a B to a D to a DD. Both of us were very happy.
Oh I did try 😂. They are good but I gave fear they will suffocate me 🤣🤣🤣
Aliexpress have plenty of no name Chinese brand watches for $50-$200. The designs look like they are inspired by the Swiss but they have Chinese branding and you pay what they're actually worth. I would stay away from the automatics (servicing the thing would cost more than it's worth) but most of the quartz ones use Japanese movements which are pretty indestructible. Just get one of those to satisfy your itch.
A brought a fake watch (one that cost me a lot more than AUD15, but a lot less than the real McCoy) into a jeweler for repair one time, and when I collected it the guy commented on the excellent quality of the watch movement (note the repair was essentially a cosmetic one, not related to the movement). So just because it's a fake, doesn't mean it's no good.
I have one fake Rado I got in Malaysia with the understanding I'd never afford a Rado. It looks good, uncanny even. Even still, the watch I get the most compliments in wearing day to day is a modified CASIO F91w so at this stage I'm not sure what is good and bad in the eyes of others.
Just wear what you want and don't let the haters get you down. Make watch wearing cool again.!
$6k tag, no comments. $2.5k omega no comments. My $60 casio calculatator watch: comments all the time!
Buy it for yourself, not to get comments and opinions from others though.
To me fake watch is trying to be something they are not and that is not OK. It's like Social Media where people put a fake version of themselves online and that is not ok in my book as well.
You do realise that some people can just like the design or the function?
I'm quite sure that most people wouldn't mind if the brand name was replaced with something else provided it still looked good.
Only certain types of people try to look rich, and most of them will simply buy the rich brands instead of attempting to use fakes.
You do realise that some people can just like the design or the function?
Then buy the watch from the creator whom created such design and function. Why buy a fake watch which imitate such design and function?
Because one is $20 and one is $1000?
Hand in your ozbargain card on your way out…
@samfisher5986: No I will not. I will find a $20 watch which I like and that will have the same functionality and similar design to that $1000 watch. The $20 watch will be from a budget brand of course. In real life, I enjoy my $100 seiko 5 sea urchin just as much as my Submariner Rolex :-)
@tomleonhart: So your logic is that as long as its similar to the design you want, and not the exact design you want, it magically changes things.
Right….
@samfisher5986: Yup. At least I am not trying faking to be something I’m not. A sea urchin is a Seiko and is a real Seiko. I get a real Seiko design with a real Seiko movement and a real Seiko brand, a fake Rolex is still a fake Rolex brand and a fake Rolex movement and an copy cat design.
Going by fake watch logic, I spend $20 on a watch that faking a $1000 watch then it suddenly changes thing.
Right…
@tomleonhart: Yeah you are just legally trying to be something you are not… haha. Designs are copied all the time, they copy as much as they can get away with.
The fact that you think its faking to be something you are not shows more about your own insecurities, people in Australia don't care what brand you are wearing, just get what you like the look of.
@samfisher5986: Designs get copied. Occasionally branding closely resembles another brand, but branding does not get copied.
If you just like the design, chances are there is a homage or another watch with similar design. They're also available at almost every price point. There's no reason to buy a fake or replica.
@ihfree: But but but $20 comparing to $1000????
That’s a great reason to buy a fake one you know.
/s
@samfisher5986: The fact that you think faking to be something else shows more about your own insecurity since you are lying to yourself that the fake watch you buy is real and then go and justify it as “design are copied all the time”. Designed are copied but does the copier also slap a fake brand on it ?
People in Australia don’t care what brand you’re wearing, I agree. You do though since you’re the one who made a conscious decision to buy a fake watch with a fake brand. Those are people insecurity in my book.
@tomleonhart: You seem to have some kind of psychological issue with fake things needing to be the real thing and I think you are taking things way too seriously, chill out and enjoy life.
Buying something with an identical design as something else is no different to buying a replica painting or the many other situations in life.
You seem to be so hung up on making sure Rolex get their thousands of dollars when maybe people just want a nice looking watch.
@samfisher5986: If you want to come at it from a psychological point of view, from a recent paper:
Although people buy counterfeit products to signal positive traits, we show that wearing counterfeit products makes individuals feel less authentic and increases their likelihood of both behaving dishonestly and judging others as unethical.
It backs the argument that others have made about the buyers of these pieces.
@ihfree: yeah no… thats bullshit.
People buy copied designs all the time and it has nothing about being counterfeit and half the time they don't even know its a copied design.
You obviously have never been to markets in Australia, Asian countries or anything else like that.
I purchased some cheap wii controllers that were a copied design of the original, because they are cheap….. not sure what is wrong with you in thinking that means something other then its cheap!
@samfisher5986: We're not talking about copied designs though, are we?
We're talking about fakes/replicas. I've already covered homages in the previous comment.
Yes, I've been to markets in Australia, Asia. I've even picked up fakes for friends.
A watch is something you wear and reflects on you much more so than your choice of Wii controller.
At some point in your life, you'll realise there's more than just acquiring cheap things and go after things you want with price being less of a concern. For many that means buying things they appreciate in some way which means buying beyond just pure function. The ultimate example being art.
For me that means quality. For you I'm guessing that's buying brand names.
@ihfree: At some point in your life you might realise that paying extra for fancy things is just being superficial..
Some things in life you want quality, other times its not that important.
A smart person knows when quality is important and when its not.
A smart person knows when quality is important and when its not.
Uhh, you keep stealing my arguments and acting like you came up with them on your own.
A smart person also knows the impact of how they brand themselves.
@ihfree: A smart person doesn't care about "branding" themselves, are you from an Asian country by chance? Those places are generally much more interested in branding themselves.
People in Australia don't care what brand you are wearing and if its fake or real.
@samfisher5986: Not important, but nice generalisation.
I'm very against branding and avoid it on clothing and other items I wear. Subtle branding, I'm ok with.
Chances are you live in a bubble. There are social/professional circles where people will care.
@ihfree: You think they care, but they don't. Thats on you.
The only people who care are those who will go and buy those very expensive brands, and if you see who are always in those stores you know its not common Australians.
@samfisher5986: Nice racism, mate.
Once again, your response completely ignores what I've said, so I'll repeat it for you:
I'm very against branding and avoid it on clothing and other items I wear.
@ihfree: Thats not racism, thats an observation. You need to look up what racism is.
But this does explain the type of person since you call that racism.
@samfisher5986: It says more about you than me as you're ignoring all other factors which may lead to people being in those stores.
@ihfree: I might be if there wasn't plenty of other information that supports that fact.
You should stop worrying what other people think because 99% of the time they don't care what brand you are wearing.
If you have something that you like and looks nice to you, thats all that matters.
If you have something that you like and looks nice to you, thats all that matters.
That's easy to pick apart.
You should stop worrying what other people think because 99% of the time they don't care what brand you are wearing.
Still, many workplaces have a dress code. Hell, even clubs have dresscodes. It's easy to demonstrate the real-world impact of what you wear.
Would you show up to a job interview in a singlet, thongs and track pants?
@ihfree: Now you are just changing the subject.
You can show up in to your job interview with your Prada jacket, or your fake Prada jacket, nobody cares as long as they both look good.
@samfisher5986: Anyway, there are certain societal expectations. If fakes were the norm, they'd be readily available for sale in the country. Instead, counterfeit goods are seized and destroyed.
Do note that there is no issue with homages.
If someone came to an interview with obvious fakes, it would throw into question their performance, at least for me.
Fakes, and even things which would not be expected ie: wearing Prada to a job interview for a basic job, stand out and make us suspicious.
Anyway, they're just my opinions on the topic. As you say, if you like Rolex, or whatever other premium brand, don't have the means to buy one, then by all means buy a fake. If it makes you feel good, that's what's important.
Even if you have difficulty as a professional acquiring a job, or whatever else doing what you want, at the end of the day, being happy is what matters.
Anyway, these are just my opinions. At the end of the day, do what makes you happy.
@ihfree: You seem to mistaking protecting things like intellectual property, and if society cares if their particular handbag would pass an authenticity test if you verified it with the manufacturer.
You also seem to be confusing cheap knockoffs with actual fakes.
You also seem to be confusing having money, with spending a lot of money on things like Rolex's.
Rolex's are for poorer to middle income people to feel rich.
Bill Gates wears a $70 USD Casio watch. In fact there are many reports that rich people often drive older cars or wear cheaper things.
So implying that not having a Rolex is somehow related to "having difficulty as a professional acquiring a job" really shows exactly who you are, someone without much money who wants to look like you have money.
You do realise that some people can just like the design or the function?
Your original point was. Mate, I don't even know what point you're arguing now. Anyway, we're not changing each others mind - good chat.
@ihfree: Yes thats my whole point, where you are too focused on how much that person paid for it, if its genuine and then making judgements about that person if its a fake.
Only someone too worried about their self image would be worried about if something someone is wearing is fake.
@samfisher5986: No, not to do with the amount paid - I don't care. I like and wear $10 Casio watches - I wouldn't find one out of place on anyone's wrist.
What I don't like it the lack of authenticity when you wear a fake or even a replica of a high end brand.
For me:
@ihfree: This is your problem, you worry about people's "Authenticity" because of something they are wearing.
This is something between you and your support person of choice.
@ihfree: But those people who got the money from their mother, or maybe stole it automatically makes them a great person in your eyes.
I think I know who the real poser is.
@samfisher5986: Yeah, you can be a poser with the real item, I guess you can copy and paste the last point and replace fake/replica with the genuine article.
I think buying a fake does not support the industry(that's a whole other can of worms) and i'd personally seriously question whether you have a genuine interest in watches.
I've had conversations with people with cheap and high end watches. I've never had a good conversation with a wearer of a fake/replica pieces.
@ihfree: I don't wear watches but I have worn an amazing mechanical watch many many years ago, and it was $15 and a fake (But without the specific Rolex labeling), I'm more commenting in general, especially as I've purchased many genuine products that were obvious knockoffs from a real product, but just different enough to not get sued.
In fact, companies like Apple etc sue for this exact reason, because its too similar. Should you then go and judge these people for using products that ended up being a copy of Apple? Can you historically judge someone? Hahah.
Either way, your personal issues are clear here by your last sentence, maybe you've been hurt by someone who wears a fake watch? I have no idea.
What I do know is that you wouldn't know a good fake from the real thing without a magnify glass or sending in the serial to the manufacturer.
Maybe all the people who have hurt you have had those terrible fakes you can spot a mile away which honestly just look tacky and weird, but you'll almost never see this in Australia anymore, I saw it a lot overseas.
@samfisher5986: We're allowed to have different opinions.
I am talking very specifically about fakes/replicas and I have covered the grey area of copying design elements. You seem to be having issues with copying design elements, homages and fakes/replicas again.
RE conversations, I am talking about conversations specifically about watches.
Even a genuine watch would look out of place on certain people. Go figure.
@ihfree: I don't see the difference between copying 80% of a product and copying 100% of a product, as long as both are good products.
I would never judge someone based on hypothetical information that may or may not be true. Maybe their watch is genuine but made illegally overnight while the factory was closed, maybe its an exact fake that nobody can tell the difference and they like the design, or maybe its a very close copy but different enough not to get sued.
China and Australia also have completely different opinions on what is similar enough to be illegal, so are our opinions and judgements and feelings now based on what the Australia government have deemed to be products worth looking down upon?
Australian's don't care, there are much more interesting things to worry about then some stupid brands.
@samfisher5986: The difference here is branding, specifically branding that is on you as an actual person.
Products do reflect on you regardless of whether you judge people on them or not. That's a fact of our society which has been researched.
Hell, even choosing to wear a fake has implications for the wearer. Do a quick search.
Brand names reflect on you whether you like it or not. If they didn't, people would shop somewhere with quality basics.
Take off your rose coloured glasses.
@ihfree: Well no, because unless you are wearing a shirt with giant letters that say a brand, a lot of the time you won't know what brand someone is wearing.
100% of the beautiful female clothes that pass by that my girlfriend likes, there is no brand visible.
My old fake watch had no brand visible.
Besides certain shirts that are ugly anyway, the only other thing where the brand is obvious are hand bags.
@samfisher5986: If your old fake watch has no brand visible it sounds like it falls more into the homage category. Once again, if you enjoy it… more power to you buddy!
Ah. I'd like to have an argument, please.
@ihfree: Not true.
Plenty of fake products avoid name specific branding if they export overseas to avoid customs issues.
Its definitely not a homage as its definitely not legal to copy and sell them.
Apple and Australian customs will pick up anything that looks like an iPhone, even if you exclude any Apple namings or logos.
@samfisher5986: I agree partially with what you're saying. I believe I previously stated that this is the grey area for me. In the case of smartphones, there are only so many ways you can have a touch screen with a minimal bezel. People are also judged on the phone they own. There are even wild stats that hit MSM..
My objection is mainly around the use of a brand name on a fake/replica products. I personally can not think of a good reason to buy a fake/replica. That to me is a poser action.
Would I buy a debranded replica item? maybe. Hell, i'm even tempted by some of the unbranded Seiko dive watch clones. Would I buy the same item with Seiko branding? That's a definite no.
I'm actually not sure why you're so defensive about this topic. You have your opinion, I have mine. Do you blame your counterfeit items for some misfortune?
@ihfree: I'm not defensive, I think you are. I don't actually own any fake items.
I'm just all for being free of judgement on something like that, if I'm going to judge its going to be on the actual product, not on pointless information like if Rolex made enough money from that product to stop me from looking down on that person.
If you don't mind about non branded products, why do you mind about branded products?
I think you are confusing the type of person who might buy something because it has a giant logo on it, in which case fake or not they are "poser" as you put it.
Compared to someone who just wants a cool mechanical watch and doesn't want to spent $1000 for a nice mechanical watch. If the same watch is $20 and suits their purpose, whats the problem?
Why do they need to save up for 12 months and spend all their money just so Rolex can take that money and so you won't judge them?
@samfisher5986: LOL, the old "no u" argument. I've got a fake Rolex somewhere in my house, i've actually never worn it out of the house and couldn't even tell you where I got it.
That's the thing. It's about the authenticity of a person - It's not about how much money the company made. I think someone who wears a fake and is genuine would be an exception rather than a rule - though it's unlikely to be something I judged them on.
I don't like branding in general and keep it to a minimum myself. When you wear a product with branding, you choose to identify with that brand's values.
Compared to someone who just wants a cool mechanical watch and doesn't want to spent $1000 for a nice mechanical watch. If the same watch is $20 and suits their purpose, whats the problem?
Yeah, except you can buy a good mech watch for about $50. There is literally no reason I can think of to buy a fake/replica/counterfeit item with another companies branding on it… other than being a poser.
If I could buy a $20 suit which looked neat, was made of decent material and matched even 80% of the functionality of a $1000 suit I would. That's the thing with a watch, you can buy a watch that is stylish for $10 with history and is more functional than a high end watch, so why would you buy a fake? It's a conscious choice to being a poser.
Save for 12 months… Yikes! That's a bad financial decision, however there are plenty of people who could drop 10K plus without issue. If you're borrowing money to buy the watch, you're probably also a poser.
@ihfree: Where do you get a $50 mechanical watch? Maybe they've become a lot cheaper then they used to be.
You are way too worried about looking like a poser and then judging others for it…. I feel sorry for you
@samfisher5986: Why would you feel sorry for me? I don't like fakes and I don't wear fakes. I have a fairly clear idea of what I like and I stick to it. I wear things which make me happy. I could go out and buy a Rolex or other high end watch tomorrow as well, but it wouldn't spark joy.
I'd feel sorry for you for feeling sorry for some rando on the internet but you're some rando on the internet who's opinion I don't particularly value.
Easy to find on sale, here's a lazy example:
Example
They're actually decent watches. I have a similar one lying in a draw somewhere. I think I wore it once. There are also some chinese hand winds which are quite nice.
Double the price, and you can get a nice looking watch. $100 will probably pick you up a Seiko 5. As an example, I have a SNKL23 on leather. Admittedly, jumping on the bandwagon a bit, but it sparks(or sparked - as I haven't seen it since the beginning of the pandemic) joy.
As I've previously said, there's no reason to buy a fake. There's a decent watch at every price point.
@ihfree: How about a watch I can actually buy? instead of a sale from nearly 3 years ago? Pretty poor example.
Where is the $50 mechanical watch?
And where is this $100 Seiko 5 watch?
Just post the direct link if you are telling the truth.
@ihfree: I tried, couldn't find one. So I'm just going to assume you are lying.
a $50 mechanical watch would be a great gift idea, if only it existed.
@samfisher5986: Just on the offchance someone else reads this:
@ihfree: Oh I see, so you lied. Well that pretty much just explains everything you've said on this topic.
But sure, continue playing the game you've just conveniently started playing as soon as I asked you to prove something you've said.
You seem to have some kind of psychological issue with fake things needing to be the real thing and I think you are taking things way too seriously, chill out and enjoy life.
I'm chilled and enjoying my life. Why do you think that i am not? Did i start analysing correlation between stranger's comment and their insecurity ? Oh no that was you. So I think you should seriously chill out and relax and stop taking thing too serious. I honestly don't care if what watch someone else wear. I just wouldn't buy a fake watch myself. That's my opinion, deal with it.
Buying something with an identical design as something else is no different to buying a replica painting or the many other situations in life.
So you're ok with ripping off painter too. That's good to hear.
You seem to be so hung up on making sure Rolex get their thousands of dollars when maybe people just want a nice looking watch.
Then people can buy a Seiko 5 Sea Urchin or any other budget watch that pay homage to the original design instead of essentially ripping themselves off buying a fake watch.
@tomleonhart: How are you ripping yourself off by getting a nice mechanical watch for $20 that looks good, but also happens to look like a popular brand?
You are way too interested in making sure Rolex get their huge amounts of money.
@tomleonhart: You paid $20 for it… why are you trying to sell it? And you could easily sell it for $10….
Thats some pretty poor logic for paying $1000 for something! its not a house.
@samfisher5986: so you lose 50% of your money. How is that not ripping yourself off? My Seiko Flighty which I bought for $200 4 years ago is worth $300+ on the second hand market. Another reason why fake watch is a bad idea.
@tomleonhart: Wow that is some crazy bad logic.
So I pay $1000 now in the hopes that its worth more later, as long as I don't break it or scratch it, and it might only be worth half when I sell it, so I could gain money or lose $500.
or.. buy a $20 watch and I can do whatever I want and not have to worry.
You can do whatever you like but I can't say there is much logic behind it besides that its your choice to wear that particular watch.
I'm also not saying everyone should have a cheap watch, but people should buy whatever they want because they want it, not because they want to make sure Rolex is that little bit richer.
Wow that is some crazy bad logic.
It's not a bad logic, it's just some you can't wrap your mind around. That's ok.
So I pay $1000 now in the hopes that its worth more later, as long as I don't break it or scratch it, and it might only be worth half when I sell it, so I could gain money or lose $500.
You do. I don't. I pay $1000 if it's an real watch and I like it and if it goes up in value, it's a bonus. Not a must
or.. buy a $20 watch and I can do whatever I want and not have to worry.
I thrash my Rolex just as much as I thrash my F91W. Both of them have been in my wrist pushing plane in the rain.
I'm also not saying everyone should have a cheap watch, but people should buy whatever they want.
If it's your choice to buy a fake watch then it's your choice and I also won't judge you if you buy a fake watch. I just wouldn't do it myself.
not because they want to make sure Rolex is that little bit richer.
Just because they earn a lot of money doesn't give people the right to rip them off. My uncle is an artist and his work has been 'replicated' so many times with no royalty paying back to him so i can't agree with you on ripping off other artist work.
@tomleonhart: Ok so you like to buy expensive watches, thats great, everyone likes different expensive things.
You should stick to that rather then worrying about big companies getting ripped off.
Ok so you like to buy expensive watches, thats great, everyone likes different expensive things.
A F91W is $30. How's that equal to me like to buy expensive watches?
You should stick to that rather then worrying about big companies getting ripped off.
And again if you have no problem with ripping off other's work, I can't agree with you
Even if I had the money to literally throw away, I can't imagine thinking "just how can I get as little utility out of this cash as possible?"
Becase that's what it seems like buying a device at a premium, that has one simple function, in an age where we have the time at our fingertips on numerous machines.