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Cadisen C1032 Watch, Seiko Auto, Stainless Steel Case and Bracelet, Sapphire AU $52.15 Delivered (US $36.59) @ GearBest + More

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Cadisen C1032 Watch, Seiko Auto, Stainless Steel Case and Bracelet, Sapphire AU $52.15 Delivered (US $36.59) @ GearBest + More
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Discounts are visible in cart. Gearbest have a sale on watches - $3 off for every $10 spent. Gearbest prices do tend to fluctuate.

Cadisen C1032 $52.15 delivered Lowest price I have seen. Well reviewed online.
40mm stainless steel case, stainless steel bracelet (solid links and end links), sapphire crystal, Seiko NH36A automatic movement (hand winding and hacking), black or white dial, see through display case back, sunburst dial.
Youtube - Just One More Watch

Cadisen C1030 (Nomos Lambda homage) $58.61 delivered
42mm stainless steel case, automatic movement (Seiko clone), mineral crystal, 22mm lug width, white, black or white dial, functional 42 hours power reserve, see through display case back, date.
Youtube - Perth Watch

Guanqin GJ16106 (Nomos Lambda homage) $58.36 delivered
42mm stainless steel case, automatic movement (Seiko clone), mineral crystal, 20mm lug width, white, black or white dial, functional 42 hours power reserve, see through display case back, date.
Youtube - Perth Watch

GUANQIN GJ16034 $52.96 delivered
41mm stainless steel case, Seiko/TMI NH36A automatic movement (hand winding, hacking), day and date, hardlex crystal (several reviewers and seller say sapphire), black dial or white dial, leather band with butterfly clasp, see through display case back.
Youtube - Perth Watch

Cadisen C1009G (Longines Conquest homage) $51.19 delivered
39mm stainless steel case, black dial, Miyota (Citizen) 8215 automatic movement (non-hacking, hand winding), date, sapphire crystal, ceramic bezel, leather band.
Youtube - Just One More Watch

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  • limucat on 18/10/2018 - 05:39

    I am getting USD51.15 for the C1032?

    • [Deactivated] on 18/10/2018 - 07:18
      +1

      Add to the cart and check the subtotal at the bottom.

      • limucat on 21/10/2018 - 21:01
        +1

        Cheers i got the white cadisen

  • Godric on 18/10/2018 - 07:39

    I do like the look of this watch C1032, is Cadisen a good brand, durable, reliable?

    There isn't much info on this watch in terms of reviews etc

    • ilikeit on 18/10/2018 - 07:48
      +2

      I don't own one, but online video and written reviews have been very positive.

      Spec wise it's amazing. The Seiko movement is found in watches that cost many hundreds of dollars and is known as a work horse. Sapphire crystal is nearly impossible to scratch. Also, the bracelet links are solid as well as the end links. These features combined with an low price are pretty unheard. You won't find a brand name with these specs for anything close.

      Many of the reviews are written on WatchUSeek and buried sporadically in long threads.

      • Godric on 18/10/2018 - 07:54

        Sounds fairly decent then for a budget watch, i may take the plunge, i'll see what my impulsive gauge says in an hour lol

        Have you purchased one?

        • ilikeit on 18/10/2018 - 08:22

          I was close to pulling the trigger. But I've got another watch on pre-order, two more I plan to order in the coming weeks and another I need to move on. So not the best timing. 1st world problems. I still may cave…

    • macrocephalic on 18/10/2018 - 10:39
      +1

      I have the C1009 - which I got for about $50 earlier in the year. It's a great watch so far - feels good quality, no obvious issues with the build. The only thing I don't like is the band - but that's a personal choice.

    • railspider on 18/10/2018 - 10:52
      +2

      I own three Cadisen watches and can't help but buy more. They're very good quality for the price.

    • HungryRussian on 18/10/2018 - 20:19

      I recommend looking at seiko 5 as well - very similar design. check youtube reviews/closeups- there are tons of models and it's unbeatable value for money watch, they are $110AU + on ebay. get a nice aftermarket strap and you a g2g. I just got one for myself.

  • triplebrie on 18/10/2018 - 09:04
    +2

    Note that there is a “Natural White” version of the c1032 which I prefer:
    https://www.gearbest.com/men-s-watches/pp_1839518.html?wid=1…
    It appears to have a nice sunburst effect on the dial.

    • HighAndDry on 18/10/2018 - 16:53

      Just an note: From the pictures, it looks like the "natural white" variant has the Day of the Week in Chinese in all but the middle photo.

  • ebosh on 18/10/2018 - 09:23
    +1

    Thanks OP. Picked up my first "expensive" Chinese watch and grabbed the C1032 in Natural White. Some of the pics show the day in Chinese so I'll see what it arrives with, but I sort of like anyway.

    • Wilburre on 18/10/2018 - 10:15

      It'll have both alternating - my seiko's have this as well. Have a look at the third pic.

      • ebosh on 18/10/2018 - 21:34

        As in it has 14 days (7 Chinese and 7 English)? I'm even more curious now. Off to watch the video review…

        • Wilburre on 18/10/2018 - 22:22
          +1

          Yep the day will change twice in 24hr period, ie Monday, Chinese, Tuesday, Chinese etc. on seikos you will see the English at the start of the day.

  • WatchNerd on 18/10/2018 - 09:55
    +3

    Great post Op, amazing value considering the specs. The Seiko NH36A auto movement is awesome and should run for around 20 years or more without needing a service.

  • altomic on 18/10/2018 - 09:59

    cheaper than aliexpress

  • HighAndDry on 18/10/2018 - 10:06

    I'm so tempted, but…. can I ask what the value proposition here is?

    In basically every objective performance metric, a good quartz movement > automatic movement (let me know if I'm wrong here). So buying an automatic movement is really for 'style points'/street cred.

    But… if you're buying this, anyone who knows what a Seiko NH36A movement is (and might appreciate this) will also know what a "Cadisen" is not, and know this is a cheap Chinese knock off, while anyone who doesn't know what a Seiko NH36A movement (and sapphire glass, etc) is, will just see this as a cheap Chinese knock off.

    The way I see it, if it's just for looks - you can buy a much cheaper, same-looking Chinese watch. If it's for street-cred, there are many watches from brand names which are slightly more expensive (and this one won't give you any anyway). If it's for actual telling time, you can buy a much cheaper (and just as good looking, even branded) quartz watch. And if it's for the movement……… why?

    • WatchNerd on 18/10/2018 - 10:16
      +2

      Nobody can see what movement your watch has regardless of how much you spend, unless they really know their watches. This has been posted as a deal because of the value you get for the money.

      People like auto watches for many different reasons, but the main one would be the engineering behind them, not their accuracy. Quartz is more accurate. This argument has been done to death on the internet, so if you want to start a battle over that then just do a google search.

      This is not a "knock off", it has their own brand on the dial "Cadisen", knock offs have other better known brand names.

      • HighAndDry on 18/10/2018 - 10:23

        This has been posted as a deal because of the value you get for the money.

        I guess I'm wondering where the value here actually lies - in a good watch, discerning people will know if your watch is actually a good one (with a good movement) or just one that looks good with a mediocre movement.

        You can't take the movement out and put it in another watch, so it can't be the actual value of the movement. And if you're right and noone basically knows the movement, it's not street-cred, and again unless I'm mistaken, in any actual performance, quartz > automatic.

        So other than the joy of knowing you're wearing an automatic with a good movement, I still don't really see the value proposition. This could be enough I guess to justify the $50 price tag though.

        • WatchNerd on 18/10/2018 - 10:25
          +3

          You seem to be hung up on what others will think of what your wearing. Some people buy watches for themselves and don't care what others think, so maybe this watch isn't for you.

          • HighAndDry on 18/10/2018 - 10:27

            @WatchNerd: Oh I'm not a watch person at all. My point isn't that I care what others think - my point is that I don't see a reason for automatics other than to affect what others think, or in other words, if you don't care what others think, why would you wear an automatic in the first place? (again - obviously I'm not a watch person. I also don't wear an automatic… I wear a fitness tracker lol.)

            I guess your point is that some people do see value in knowing that they're wearing a Seiko movement automatic?

            Edit: Also - on the point of not caring what others think (and whether these are knock offs)….. I think that kind of goes against the fact that these are "homages".

            • Godric on 18/10/2018 - 13:12
              +3

              @HighAndDry: I'd wear an automatic watch because I get quoted $32 for battery replacements and to lazy to do my self lol

              • Munki on 18/10/2018 - 21:06

                @Godric: Batteries are like $3 a pop.
                The tools required to get the back casing out and put it back in is like $10, but only required to buy once. Really, it's not that difficult or costly to maintain quartz watches.

                I personally like automatic watches because of the workmanship behind it. They're artistic pieces first and foremost .

            • Mttogo96 on 18/10/2018 - 17:46
              +1

              @HighAndDry: You're still missing the point that I think WatchNerd is trying to make, these watches are intended for people who simply wear it because they appreciate the craftsmanship and complexity that goes into these automatic movements, irregardless of the fact that they're worse at keeping time than a cheap quartz.

              • HighAndDry on 18/10/2018 - 18:41
                +1

                @Mttogo96: Wait, isn't this what I said:

                I guess your point is that some people do see value in knowing that they're wearing a Seiko movement automatic

        • idonotknowwhy on 18/10/2018 - 16:49
          +2

          wondering where the value here actually lies

          TL;DR It's $52 for a simple, aesthetically pleasing watch which doesn't need any battery replacements and won't get scratched.

          For me personally, there's a little bit of:

          the joy of knowing you're wearing an automatic with a good movement

          You're also correct about:

          it's not street-cred

          If anything, I'd assume people think I'm old for having a watch which only tells the time.

          actual performance, quartz > automatic.

          Correct again. A quartz watch is more accurate.

          I read lower down that you're not a watch person, but if you're thinking about trying it, this seems like a good buy at $52.

          You need to adjust it every few months anyway (for the date at the start of a new month) so accuracy of the Automatic movement isn't really an issue.

          If you don't like it, it'd be a nice looking Christmas present for somebody else lol.

          • HighAndDry on 18/10/2018 - 16:52
            +1

            @idonotknowwhy: All really good points. Thanks. Actually convincing me to pull the trigger - if the sale is still on.

    • Wilburre on 18/10/2018 - 10:23

      Tempted by the C1030. Can't afford AUD $26,530 for the Lambda.

      • HighAndDry on 18/10/2018 - 10:54
        +1

        I guess you probably can't afford a Jules Audemars either then….

        • Wilburre on 18/10/2018 - 11:07

          You would be correct sir. I don't like the aesthetic of it either.

    • macrocephalic on 18/10/2018 - 10:41

      I like automatics for the novelty, and because they don't require a battery. Most quartz watches need a new battery every 2-5 years (solar and kinetics excluded), automatics just need you to wear them. If you don't wear them for a day or two then you'll have to set the time when you pick them up.

      • HighAndDry on 18/10/2018 - 10:45

        Oh true, I think I have an automatic somewhere that I did get because of the novelty value too, but stopped wearing it because having to reset the time every time I don't wear it for a day or two (weekends) was just too much work, especially on Monday mornings (again - I'm definitely not a watch person).

        I'm pretty sure you can get a solar/kinetic watch for around this price (or maybe I'm wrong on this point). Eco-drives get pretty cheap when they're on sale.

        • macrocephalic on 18/10/2018 - 11:21

          Ecodrives start at about $100, but you won't get a sapphire crystal for less than abtou $200. You can get the Q&Q watches for about $30; they're a subsidiary of citizen and use the ecodrive movement, but they're in all plastic cases.

          If all you want is a watch that always works then an ecodrive with 10ATM+ WR will do you well.

          • HighAndDry on 18/10/2018 - 11:50

            @macrocephalic: Thanks, will keep that in mind. I do like ecodrives for their "just works all the time" part. This is going to be an utterly amateur question, but are there any ecodrive automatics? If I'm going to get an ecodrive, it'll be for fancy party use and I may as well get an automatic for that purpose (probably won't be an everyday driver).

            • macrocephalic on 18/10/2018 - 12:15
              +2

              @HighAndDry: Ecodrives are their own movement, they're quartz with a solar panel face, and a rechargeable battery.

            • terrys on 19/10/2018 - 08:03
              +1

              @HighAndDry: You'll want to avoid the cheapies with the low 5 month power reserve then.

              • macrocephalic on 19/10/2018 - 12:47

                @terrys: As long as you don't keep them in a sealed box I think they will keep ticking along. Just leave them on a shelf when you're not using them.

  • macrocephalic on 18/10/2018 - 10:48

    Any idea what movement the C1030 has? I like the look, but $50 for mineral glass and a Chinese movement isn't much of a bargain.

  • railspider on 18/10/2018 - 10:56
    +1

    I'm wearing the Cadisen C1009G right now at work, great watch.

    Had been waiting on a $50 deal for the Guanqin, now seems a good a time as any to pick it up. Thanks for sharing OP.

    Can highly recommend both Cadisen and Guanqin, very high quality watches at bargain prices. Only drawback is sometimes their QC isn't great, so make sure your dial is aligned, etc before giving feedback (Gearbest are usually okay with Watch warranties).

  • lolcoaster on 18/10/2018 - 12:28

    Which Gearbest shipping option has tracking? Australia Priority Mail or AU Express?

    • macrocephalic on 19/10/2018 - 12:48

      I just went with the cheapest one, personally.

  • KLoNe on 18/10/2018 - 12:32
    +1

    This is 2/3rds cheaper than replacing the band on my current Armani 🙏😊

  • mduncan2 on 18/10/2018 - 16:02
    +1

    What are people's thoughts on the $69
    (after discounts) C8090M with sapphire crystal and Tungsten steel and 21 jewel miyota movent? I love it in black. Tempted…

    https://m.gearbest.com/men-s-watches/pp_009433231150.html?wi…

    I might have to get a couple of different watches to maximise the discount at $3USD off for every $10usd spend.

  • [Deactivated] on 18/10/2018 - 17:12

    hand winding and hacking

    How often does this need to be hand winded?

    • lolcoaster on 18/10/2018 - 17:21
      +1

      41hr reserve

      http://calibercorner.com/seiko-caliber-nh35a/

      • [Deactivated] on 18/10/2018 - 18:30
        +2

        Ok, so are people happy to wind them? I mean in this day and age, doesn't it feel like taking a step back in time?

        • WatchNerd on 18/10/2018 - 18:47
          +5

          If you don't want to wind it you don't have to. Just wear it everyday and the movement of your arm will keep it running, hence why it's called an automatic watch.

          • [Deactivated] on 18/10/2018 - 18:50
            +2

            @WatchNerd: Cheers. Wasn't sure about it as I am not a watchnerd.

            PS: whoever negged me, that was a bit harsh as it was a genuine question.

        • PrivateSmuggler on 18/10/2018 - 18:57
          +1

          I could say the same about manual cars, why work harder to achieve the same goal as an automatic car?

          Alas, I am not a car person and would probably be crucified if I stated that in a car enthusiast group.

          I guess it all comes down to what you appreciate and how much you know about watches and cars etc. I would know that an automatic watch would never need a battery replaced and I can appreciate the history and appearance of the automatic movement rather than a simple battery powered quartz movement, while people who are into cars would find more control with a manual transmission and may see it as more enjoyable than an automatic transmission. The cons and benefits are extensive and I guess it just comes down to how much you like and know about that particular hobby.

  • carlJack on 18/10/2018 - 17:58

    How do you know if its sapphire or not?

    • ilikeit on 18/10/2018 - 18:09

      Tested in the video.

    • Munki on 18/10/2018 - 21:10

      Try scratching it and see. ;)

      • carlJack on 18/10/2018 - 21:21
        +1

        Username Checks out.

  • [Deactivated] on 18/10/2018 - 20:53
    +1

    Is there any option for free shipping? Cheapest I can find for shipping is $1.30.

    • ausbob71 on 19/10/2018 - 01:07

      I couldn't work it out so just paid the extra $1.30.

  • LSGH on 18/10/2018 - 21:07
    +1

    $52 for sapphire crystal is an amazing price

  • ilolwhat on 19/10/2018 - 09:32

    I went for the C1032 in black. The cheapest shipping was faster than the preselected "Netherlands Registered Airmail". Came to AUD $53.

  • HandsomeMonkey on 19/10/2018 - 12:38
    +1

    Bought two of the C1032 one black one white. Thanks

  • underscore on 19/10/2018 - 19:44

    Real cheap prices. I paid about $20 more for the Guanqin Lambda clone earlier in the year.

    It's a good looking watch and mine keeps good time. A little on the tall side and the bracelet isn't very good, but pretty incredible value for money.

    Note that the lug width is 20mm, not 22mm as listed in the description of this deal.

    • ilikeit on 19/10/2018 - 20:38

      Fixed. Thanks for the mini review. I noticed it is tall. Have you tested the crystal which is advertised as sapphire?

      I am am vaguely considering the Guanqin Lambda since it has *sapphire. Although I much prefer the name and other written text on the Cadisen which is mineral.

      • underscore on 19/10/2018 - 23:14

        Nah I haven't tested the crystal - don't have the means to do so.

        The guy on the "just one more watch" youtube channel seems to test a lot of these GearBest watches and they do usually seem to have sapphire if advertised. So if I had to guess, I'd say it's probably sapphire, but it wasn't a big factor in my purchasing decision.

        I hadn't really looked closely at the Cadisen version until this. At first glance I figured they were both basically the same watch, but in the pictures some parts do look a little different, e.g. crown and lugs.

        Interestingly, despite saying mineral crystal in the description, further down the page for the Cadisen it lists "sapphire crystal" under product parameters. So who knows, maybe it's sapphire.

  • Datatemp on 20/10/2018 - 12:49

    Any one know if you can see the dial and the hands in the dark to see the time?
    In any of the model listed above
    Thanks

    • ilikeit on 20/10/2018 - 15:21

      I don't think so, dress watches generally don't. Plus, cheap Chinese watches almost always have crap/no lume, crap clasps and crap lather bands. Guaranteed. The bracelets on these ones are pretty good. Above average for cheap Chinese watches.

  • limucat on 21/10/2018 - 21:04

    Thinking of a watch winder for the cadisen while I wear my SKMEIs
    Anyone can recommended a reliable brand and on the cheap side?

    I am leaning the ones on Amazon ir Chiyoda or Yescom…

    • ilikeit on 21/10/2018 - 23:01
      +1

      Look for one with a Japanese made Mabuchi motor. Although it will add premature wear to the watch movement.

    • macrocephalic on 22/10/2018 - 18:17
      +1

      Personally, I just wind all my watches when I put my watch on in the morning. If they go flat then setting the time is trivial.

      • ilikeit on 22/10/2018 - 21:40
        +1

        Unless the movement is a mechanical handwinder (no automatic function ), handwinding can damage the movement when done regularly. Winding is really just for getting the movement going with the occasional full wind. There are many threads about this on WatchUSeek referencing watchsmiths.

        • macrocephalic on 22/10/2018 - 23:18
          +1

          There doesn't seem to be a clear consensus. Either way, we're not talking about $5k watches here, we're talking $100 watches that I cycle through depending on what I feel like on the day.

    • underscore on 23/10/2018 - 16:29
      +1

      I bought a JQUEEN winder from Amazon about a year ago. It's a dual watch version with Mabuchi motor, this one - https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B014CD1RPW/ref=oh_aui_deta…

      It was/is fine, but I stopped using it after a few months so can't comment on the long term reliability. I didn't find it that beneficial so I stopped using it.

      On the plus side it's quiet, inexpensive compared to other winders, and it looks good (to me).

      Things to be aware of are that it rotates quickly and you don't have control over that. I wanted fewer turns per day so plugged it into the wall using a timer and controlled the turns per day that way. Also the cushions were a bit small for my watches, so I had to add some foam to stop my watches from flopping around as they rotate.

      • ilikeit on 23/10/2018 - 19:09
        +2

        Wow, no rotation settings. That's crazy!

        • underscore on 23/10/2018 - 22:28
          +2

          I should clarify - it has a few different modes to change the rotation, but you can't change the number of rotations per day.

          2 mins on, 2 mins off - choose either clockwise, counter-clockwise, or half and half
          5 mins clockwise then 5 mins counter clockwise, repeat for 3 hours, rest for 9 hours

          Works out to be around 2700 turns per day - much more than necessary for most common movements.

      • limucat on 26/10/2018 - 12:48

        Thanks guys. After reading your comments and thinking about it… I decided to just wear them for a bit each day just to wind it cos getting a winder will cost the same or more than the cadisen.

  • Godric on 26/10/2018 - 15:15

    Anyone got theirs yet?
    Taking so long

    • idonotknowwhy on 29/10/2018 - 10:38

      I came here to ask this. I paid extra for the 10 business day shipping.

      Last update says:

      2018-10-18 21:36:18 Departure in Location Warehouse Sorting Centre

    • ilikeit on 30/10/2018 - 01:20

      I took the express option for a buck and a half. Got delivered today. I ended up getting the Cadisen Nomos Lambda homage. As it turns out it has a different case to the Guanqin. Surprised at the weight, albeit a bit thick for a casual dress watch.

    • lolcoaster on 30/10/2018 - 16:53

      Got mine today. I got the "Natural White". Kinda a little disappointed since it's more just the same silver as the case rather than an actual whiteish silver but not a big deal.

      • ilikeit on 30/10/2018 - 23:47
        +1

        I got "white," but it's more like an ivory shade. The hands look black at most angles and I'm only able to get the vibrant blue, as seen in the photos, by getting the dial at an exact angle. The lugs have quite a heavy design for a dressy watch. I can deal with it though for the price. The power reserve is indicating it will last approx 46 hours. Currently running around +10 sec, but hopefully will improve once the movement is worn in.

  • ausbob71 on 31/10/2018 - 18:14
    +2

    I received mine today looked great once I got all the plastic off of it and had to remove 2 links with the included tool for my slender wrist.

  • ilikeit on 01/11/2018 - 08:40
    +1

    My Cadisen Nomos Lambda homage got 45 hours from the power reserve after a full wind and no wear. Impressive straight out of the box.

  • idonotknowwhy on 02/11/2018 - 15:55

    Mine is lost in the post somewhere. Hopefully not a chargeback scenario.

  • darxtorm on 03/11/2018 - 15:57

    this deal is no longer available? I'm seeing this in the checkout:
    Item Sub-total
    AU$83.68

  • Godric on 05/11/2018 - 18:50

    Received today.
    The plastic took ages to take off, real unwrapping struggles on struggle street.

    The crown is blue though and wasn't it expecting it to be by the pictures, is it just a sticker?
    Doesn't feel like a sticker, but no where else when i look up this watch does it have a blue crown, please someone confirm lol

    • ilikeit on 05/11/2018 - 21:35

      Which one mate? Blue stickers on the crown are common to avoid scratches. Use a toothpick or something soft to scratch it off.

  • opposablethumbs on 09/11/2018 - 20:16
    +3

    Have had my Cadisen C1030 (Nomos Lambda homage) a few days now and pretty impressed TBH.

    Pluses:
    -Hand winding, hacking, automatic, with reasonably accurate reserve meter.

    -Remarkably accurate so far (approx. +3 secs/day, which is pretty good for even a much pricier automatic)

    -Blue almost enamelled look hands, that give you some nice variation in the light due to unobtrusive silver light grey dial (not sunburst)

    -Cadisan branding and "AUTOMATIC" printed on dial, plus mark on crown all reasonably subtle (all the extra on the Guanquin looked too distracting for my tastes)

    -Date blends well with dial by being at 6 o'clock position just inside seconds dial and slightly Bauhaus-like numbering consistent with an overall minimalist look

    -No spelling mistakes on engraved wording on perimeter of see-through case back (reviews of Guanquin on Youtube show minor mistakes on caseback)

    -Mesh band looks reasonably tasteful (not cheap) & is very functional

    Minuses:
    -Weighty with mesh band. However, changed over to a spare black imitation croc leather band (22mm) I had lying around, which makes it that much lighter and look like it's worth many multiples more than I paid for it (closer to the Nomos look with this band).

    -Case height on the tall side. Might be a problem with tight cuffs, but watch lugs curve nicely around wrist, so looks completely appropriate on even a medium sized wrist.

    -Squiggly lines on the rotor, the only thing that makes it look cheap. No one will see this while it's on your wrist though, so for all the above will forgive this minor distraction.

    Verdict
    I'm a big fan of good quality, remarkable value automatic watches, so overall for the money have been very pleasantly surprised with this Cadisen.

    Definitely a keeper, that I look forward to mixing it up with a few different styles of bands :-).

    Only question left is if the quality of the Chinese automatic movement stands up over the longer term. Time will tell :->.

    Score: 9/10

  • Skky on 11/11/2018 - 22:59
    +1

    Bought both. Thanks to OP

  • sumy08 on 15/11/2018 - 09:08

    Anyone got it shipped lately?
    Contacted gearbest and they are saying it's out of stock with another 15-20 days wait!

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