Victoria government has just announced the Zero Emissions Vehicle (ZEV) Subsidy. $3000 for EV with purchase price below $68,740 (exclude stamp duty, and other charges).
No income test for this subsidy (can't see it on the website). Only 4,000 spots for this wave of subsidy.
P.S. if you buy a Model 3 SR+ (any colour), you will be eligible for the subsidy.
*** Update: my bad, even with Red colour it should still be below $68,740. So any colour is fine! ***
Referee gets $1400 off Model Y & 3 purchase.
Referrer gets $700 credit toward Supercharging, software upgrades, merchandise, service payments or a new vehicle. Limit of 10 referral benefits per calendar year.
LOL，look at some of the comments make me laugh.
Aussie think China , EU and USA and
list goes on are all stupid countries that encourage and subsidy their ev purchase. No, we are smarter than that we make ev pay their fair share of road use. Lol.
If all other road vehicles (cars, taxis, trucks etc) pay taxes, why should an EV be exempt ?
Then they hit you with an EV tax !
Knew I'd reach my neg limit in this comment section. Let's just keep voting Liberal until our beaches disappear.
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Where are the Model 3 Standard Range Plus manufactured?
Made in China. Which might not be a bad thing. Since the model 3 production in the gigafactory in China is more up to date than Fremont. So the panel gaps etc should not be as bad.
Hmm, Made in China, that might explain why Dan is pushing for it.
Same place where your phone (or most parts of it) is manufactured
Wrong!
Samsung phones are no longer being made in China as the world prepares for War with China.
So buy Open Source Android Samsung and ditch Apple
"Samsung actually shut down its last remaining smartphone factory in China this year. As of 2019, the company is not making any phones in the People’s Republic."
https://www.sammobile.com/where-are-samsung-phones-made#:~:t….
War with China?? link
@capslock janitor: Here you go if you have been asleep till now or are an agent of China
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=war+with+china&iar=news&ia=news
https://www.news.com.au/world/asia/china-already-engaging-in…
In Europe the subsidy is much higher, but they're way ahead of climate action and not a raw materials exporter, like coal etc
Comparatively small, but a good part of Norway's massive trillion dollar sovereign wealth fund comes from it's "home-developed" North Sea oil and gas. Shows what can be done by cutting out the middle man and when politicians put their country/citizens ahead of private wealth accumulation.
Here's our (disgraceful) model: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-04-01/tax-credits-for-oil-a…
If you get one, don't park like this guy
https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/real-life/news-life/bondi-…
Victorians with an EV will be taxed 2.5c/km from 1 July so any savings here won’t last long
"1 in 5 electric vehicle owners in California switched back to gas because charging their cars is a hassle, new research shows"
"… an hour plugged into a household outlet gave Bloomberg automotive analyst Kevin Tynan just three miles of range …overnight, we’re looking at 58km of range,”
"Even with the faster charging … he tested still needed nearly six hours to top its range back up to 483km from nearly empty – something that takes him just minutes at the pump with his family SUV."
"… automakers, who have yet to find a profitable way of producing electric cars. Even Tesla, easily the leader in the category, was only able to eke out a first-quarter profit by selling energy credits and bitcoin."
https://www.businessinsider.com.au/electric-car-owners-switc…
Yep there's plenty of hurdles to be overcome before they are practical options for the masses. It's possible that hydrogen may be a better option in some cases: https://thenewdaily.com.au/life/auto/2018/08/17/hydrogen-car…
A normal 10A amp outlet gets 12km/h, while a 15A outlet (or a 10A outlet with an Ampfibian) gets 18km/h. My car is easily parked 10hours+ overnight, so that's 180km regained in one night. I drive 30km a day. I charge twice a week overnight, and have no issues. Yes, I need to plan a little if I'm going out country, which I have many times since buying the car. It's not that tough, and only becomes easier as more chargers are installed.
"Tesla ranks lowest on J.D. Power 2020 quality study, 250 problems per 100 cars"
https://electrek.co/2020/06/24/tesla-ranks-lowest-on-j-d-pow…
There's videos on YouTube highlighting the poor build quality of some Tesla models. Some of it is eye opening.
I am not surprise … the early day of Model 3 is seriously bad. I wouldn't want to spend $70k for a car with misalign panels etc. But most of the quality issues had been addressed by the made in china Model 3 now, you should be able to find a few video talks about the build quality has improved significantly. (the panel gaps is still nowhere near as narrow as BMW/Merc/VW)
Sure - but for me even less reason to buy as I avoid Chinese products wherever there's an alternative. It's not just the 3, serious problems with the Y too. In 2021, not painting a car properly is criminal. You're just not going to see those kind of problems from a mainstream auto manufacturer.
So made in PRC and 2022 deliveries now?
Bargain!
Now the world can be polluted with more lithium!
And more electricity usage coming from fossil burning power plants here…
Agree but Cadogen is deeply annoying. His videos are hard to watch.
Yep, he’s a clueless idiot with faulty logic, who’s been wrong time & again
Hmm..I can't see the promised $3000 rebate on the tesla model 3 SR+, The price still comes up as $68094 DA (VIC).
According to Tesla website, if you are eligible for the subsidy, the $3000 will be deducted from the final invoice.
For the ignorants who negged my comment on the savings vs oil burner, here is the article.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/insideevs.com/features/501217/t…
… https://insideevs.com/features/501217/tesla-vs-gas-cost-75k/
You posted an article from an EV website with the commentator who is a Tesla fan bois. It is hardly going to be unbiased.
He states the charge time to fully charge his EV is just over 10 hrs. Compare that to a petrol station that takes 4 mins to fill a tank. Sorry but EV charging times are the biggest reason why EV (compared to Petrol or Hydrogen / Electric) will NOT be picked up by main stream consumers on mass as it is not workable for 99% people who use a car.
He had to spend USD $1400 just to install a fast charger (still takes over 10 hrs) in his garage. Not everyone has the luxury of owning a garage for every vehicle they have.
Love the part on how the Tesla battery loses charge just by being parked and not used :)
The main ISSUE with his comparison is the Electricity vs Petrol costs comparison is way off.
He states in USA Electricity is 0.07 cents / KwH vs Petrol at 1.09 cents / L
Australian Electricity prices are much more than 0.07 cents / KwH. Avg Electricity price in Melb is 19c - 20c / KwH
I like how he does NOT publish the excel sheet for the calculations, just quickly flashes them on a video
Powershop’s super off peak rates are 11cents / KwH
Given the average km/day in australia is a little over 30km for passenger vehicles, that can be recharged by simply plugging the car into a powerpoint. I'm not sure where 99% of people that would be unworkable for comes from? I find it much simpler to just plug in the car than to bother going to a petrol station.
Personally I haven't even bothered to install a charger.
It costs me way less to run my telsa which is generally charged from my solar panels than my kia in terms of electricity/petrol costs.
1) 30km per day is not standard, so not sure where you are pulling that stat. I would drive 80 km/d as a min.
2) You must be home all day as Solar panels are generally useless for mainstream who work 8am - 6pm as by the time you come home after 6pm there is no solar generation so your Tesla charging for free will not happen. But nice spin for those that don't understand the details.
3) For all those residents that live in housing with no garage or only off street parking how do you propose they charge their EV's at home ? By Osmosis ?
@[Deactivated]: From the ABS …. https://www.abs.gov.au/statistics/industry/tourism-and-trans…
Yes, working from home a couple days a week still which covers the other days.
Just my experience with an actual tesla for a bit over a year now …. although I am about to start using the free charger at my son's basketball stadium that has just been installed to reduce my cost even more.
@bort: "1 in 5 electric vehicle owners in California switched back to gas because charging their cars is a hassle, new research shows"
https://www.businessinsider.com.au/electric-car-owners-switc…
The facts are not with you
@[Deactivated]: I suspect the Australian Bureau of statistics is reasonably factual.
I also suspect I know where you pulled your 99% statistic from.
Andy, EV's are a totally different mindset to ICE cars. Forget the whole concept of Filling up at a petrol station, that's over.
EV is all about refueling whenever you aren't in it.
Ie. At work, shopping centre , at home while sleeping,out for dinner, walking down the beach, at the gym etc etc.
So really, 5mins at a petrol station is an inconvenience you no longer have to worry about. I actually hate filling up the missus car these days, PITA.
This is as long as they actually roll out more Infrastructure. I currently plug in at home, shops, work.
Keep sniffing that glue
Andy, EV's are a totally different mindset to ICE cars. Forget the whole concept of Filling up at a petrol station, that's over.
With Hydrogen / Electric you will still fill at a station 100 times quicker than a electric charger
EV is all about refueling whenever you aren't in it.
Love how a Telsa battery drains power just when its parked :) Yea, I will forget about ICE .. not
Ie. At work, shopping centre , at home while sleeping,out for dinner, walking down the beach, at the gym etc etc.
Have you seen how many hundreds of car spaces are at a shopping center. What will you have 4 charging outlets for every 1000 car spaces :)
So really, 5mins at a petrol station is an inconvenience you no longer have to worry about. I actually hate filling up the missus car these days, PITA.
4 mins to fill up at a station compared to 12 hrs to charge an EV. Wow !!! I am sold with that great option !!
This is as long as they actually roll out more Infrastructure. I currently plug in at home, shops, work.
Typical Greens / Marxist / Socialist wants to use Tax Payers money to fund their own agenda's of riding bicycles and horses in the streets
Sorry mate you really have not thought through your flaky EV sales pitch to the world
@[Deactivated]: Wow Andy, you are wound up. Relax, I hear ya.
I had exactly the same fears. I currently own a PHEV so that I still have a back up option. 100% agree that hydrogen is a better proposition, but it ain't here yet with our Muppet government. But since changing over to plugging in when I'm parked and couldn't give 2 stuffs about checking fuel prices on petrolspy, it has been great. Your gonna have to trust me on that one. Long trips, don't have to worry about charging infrastructure, but back to petrolspy.
Back to H2, I'd be hoping hydrogen would be generated during the day at my home from my solar panels, and I refuel when I get home? Why would I need a petrol station? So again, I'd love to see cars, houses, ships , trucks all hydrogen powered. Hoping my PHEV will get a H2 conversion kit.
As for losing energy while sitting. This is true. As does everything else. Your (and my car) is currently evaporating fuel through the breather and the 12v battery is drawing small amounts of power for auxiliary devices. In these cars there's wifi and extra draing stuff. All needs to come from somewhere. Also true, fully charged lithium doesn't hold full charge for long. But the car never fully charges. It calls 95% full to allow for this. Even at 95% you may lose 1% charge over night. At 80% 0.1%. So only fully charge just before you leave, or stop charging at 80% for basically no loses. Timers built in for this stuff. Set up, all automated.
At the end of the day, we need to do something about the environment, and done it 20 years ago. I need to tell.my daughter that "sorry we ruined your world because we used to sit in traffic going almost nowhere burning petrol while we knew the climate is flogged" Absolute madness. She will be asking what glue we were sniffing!
So for you, I'd say get a PHEV, have the best of both worlds.
@tunzafun001: You won't have hydrogen at home, it will be at a station as that is not how the tech works
You need to take a breath and stop reading the Greens / Marxist rubbish being pushed by China and Russia against the west to their advantage.
The world is NOT coming to an end as the 'science' is based on limited temperature readings for the last 100 years. The earth revolves around the sun in an elliptical rotation every 100 years. So for some years the earth is closer to the sun (1 degree rise) and there will be alternate years it is further away (colder). Its nature and expected regardless of the Greens claptrap nonsense.
Great if you read the facts and not let your daughter follow the Left / Greens lead stuff being taught by unionized leftist teachers that have forgot they should not bring their personal political beliefs to the classroom.
https://public.nrao.edu/ask/why-is-the-earths-orbit-around-t….
In the near future you will most likely die in a war with China or their next bio weapon China virus than the Greens "we are all going to die" nonsense.
@[Deactivated]: Ah, so that's your angle.
I'm a numbers man. I'll just use Cargo ships as the example (let's not even consider, cars, planes, trucks, trains, houses, businesses, schools or industry.
A ship uses on average of a quarter of a million litres of oil per day per ship. Currently there are >5000 ships on the move, but let's round down.
So thats 5000 x 250 000 = 1.25 billion litres..PER DAY. Each litre of Crude burnt produces >3kg CO2 (let alone other gases). Multiply by 365 and we have over 1000 billion kgs of CO2 from Shipping alone. Just shipping!
Look up at a European skyline and there is a constant airplane trails across the sky. Do the numbers on flights if you want.
And you recon this is having no impact?
Also, I have dived the Great Barrier reef over 30 years, and the change is dramatic… and you are saying the Earths rotation has significantly changed in just 30 years?
Sadly the bio weapon is probably the best scenario for the planet. Until then I will actually give a shit and do my best for my daughter to experience the creatures in it. I can't stand your self/ human centred attitude. Get out your aircon building on a 48C day an experience what everything else has to try and survive in.
Based on temp data for only 100 years?? … Haha who told you that? Sounds like something Donald Trump would say while trying to inject himslelf with UV!
Thankfully we may have some common ground on hydrogen so you can still see $$ to be made (for what it's worth, I ran my 1976 Holden Gemini on Hydrogen I created at home in 1996, not at all hard, it's going to happen).
P.S. Thankfully my career….a 'greeny teacher'..
@tunzafun001: this tech is fantastic! that would be ideal - use excess solar/wind energy generated either at the house or distributed power (virtual) plants and turn it into hydrogen. then at night, use the generated hydrogen to power the house. i didnt know metals can absorb hydrogen like that! oh man! this tech, if/when mass produced, will be revolutionary!
@eleon00: Yeah, but the efficiency would be really poor, (ie.around 50%, so you would probably need 2kw of solar to get 1kw back out).
But it's early days. Proof of concept, great longevity and 40kwh is a lot, and if you are getting $0 FIT, and have an EV then why not (no home energy or petrol to be paid again for at least 15 years.
Good on Lavo for having a crack.
I'd be very interested to see the calculation where Model 3 is actually cheaper to own in Australia than for example Camry mentioned before, including the purchase price/depreciation/insurance/fuel/servicing (the cars are different, so not very correct comparison). So far, even if charging were free, the price difference for the car and insurance were significantly bigger than the fuel/servicing cost. There are other good reasons to buy Tesla, but I don't think the savings are one of them in Australia, at least yet. Norway for example is a different story, ICE taxes are so high, EV is cheaper to buy.
yes, capital cost alone would blow out any running cost savings
Correct, it's an environmental choice not financial…Uncle Dale… You understand this yet? FFS.
I wonder if I use a friends address in Victoria as my own if it would work? Once I take delivery of the vehicle, drive it back to NSW, cancel Vic rego and apply for a refund and then register it in NSW. The 1500km supercharger credits should cover my return trip from Melbourne to Sydney :) I’ll just be out of pocket my flight to Melbourne to collect the car.
James, pm me if you want some hints on this.
Government is subsidising the rich, while the average Joe blog can't afford such a car.
Yep. It's even worse overseas too.
Well it's the rich who pay the most tax to the government. Even after benefits such as this, the rich are still more out-of-pocket.
Would you call Centrelink the government subsidising the poor?
I am talking about the majority of people which is the average Joe bloggs who cannot afford this luxury car. Rich people knows how to avoid taxes until the average Joe
What car do you suggest the rich buy instead?
I feel like this subsidy will just offset the EV road tax in VIC.
Still holding out for a national EV policy (better incentives) and tesla model Y..
You will be waiting a while..
ask old mate Angus Taylor about that
so the rebate only applies to Tesla vehicles?
It applies to any brand new Electric vehicle available for purchase in VIC under $68,741.
-5 +3 = -2.
make money but make it look as if you are giving away money and supporting EV, nice rort scam
Whats with all the EV bashing here.
Coal fuelled trolls. Some are paid. :)
Big Coal has gotten to us all !!
Model 3 plus is slower than Stinger 0-100km/hr.
5.6s vs 4.9s
I would suggest the 'does it go fast buyers' demographic cuts across technologies.
yes, if you want faster you get the P model.
that said, the straight up torque on the SR+ is still going to be quite different to the stinger.
Yes but the Stinger is an outright performance car aimed at enthusiasts while the Model 3 SR+ is the Tesla’s car for grandpa.
I wonder how the 0-60km/h or 0-80km/h times compare given the instant torque of the electric motor.
I suspect in the day to day thrust of Australian driving the Tesla will be much more responsive and leap ahead of the Stinger. Stinger also needs to use launch control to get that 0-100 time).
I don’t own a Tesla but I drove my friends SR+ for an hour or so.
The performance figures DON’T tell the whole story. The car is instantly responsive at any speed any time. No fancy launch control, just mash the go pedal and boom.
Also the acceleration feels unrelenting, no gear changes, just constant acceleration.
The Long Range, the Long Range with Performance Pack or the pure Performance Model 3 should be absolute ball tearers.
I’m sold, I can’t see any point in buying an ICE performance car unless you are track focused and like an old school drive.
vic gov has killed EV adoption
![[VIC] Tesla Model 3 Standard Range Plus $65,094 Delivered after $3000 VIC ZEV Subsidy (Was $68,084) @ Tesla](https://files.ozbargain.com.au/n/44/620744.jpg?h=1af1aaf6)
@DmytroP: Agree,
thankfully I don't have any loan / interest repayment expenses.
I have to admit it is not cheap to purchase a Tesla or any other EV in Australia compared to the rest of the world.
But the sad truth is that we pay a premium higher price for anything (overseas made / imported and even locally made) we purchase in Australia compared to the rest of the progressive civilised world :)
Hopefully in the near future purchasing an EV will be more affordable for everybody to own without having to take up 5 year finance loans.
I still love my Jeep Wrangler JK (thirsty 12L/100km) and old Ford Falcon AU2 LPG