I’ve seen so many people driving on clear empty highway just chilling in the right lane, forcing me to overtake on the left which is not ideal.
What’s your problem with keeping left?
People who refuse to keep left
asafasr on 24/03/2021 - 14:33
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I wave back and smile.
And then my foot comes off the accelerator just a little.
Staying on the right lane is illegal first of all, visibility for the driver being overtaken is less
I’m not driving on the right lane , can you even read
@whooah1979: If you overtake someone on the right, the driver being overtaken can clearly see you coz you’re on the drivers side.
You’re missing the biggest point being it’s illegal to cruise on the right lane as well.@whooah1979: Speed is irrelevant when we’re talking about keeping left on the freeway. Most these people cruising on the right tend to go 10kmh below but their speed doesn’t change the fact someone has to undertake
@CMH: If the freeway is > 80km/h and not otherwise signed.
For example, the Warringah Freeway in Sydney is 80km/h from the harbour bridge to the start of the M2, where it goes up to 100km/h. There are no signs with "keep left unless overtaking", so technically there is no requirement to keep left on that whole stretch of road.
If the freeway is > 80km/h and not otherwise signed
Close, but this is incorrect
It's > 80 km/h OR signs say so
@deme: Yes my brain was probably thinking of two things at once.
To summarise:
You can travel unrestricted in the right lane if:
- the speed limit is 80km/h or under; and
- there is no sign requiring you to keep left
You cannot travel unrestricted in the right lane if:
- the speed limit is greater than 80km/h; or
- there is a sign requiring you to keep left
Its actually not when there is traffic,
When driving on any multi-lane road with a speed limit over 80km/h, you must keep out of the right lane unless:
you are overtaking or turning right, or
all lanes are congested.
Depends on the road you are driving. Sticking to the left is recommended and polite thing, not a law.
Life is pretty grand for me, actually.
Things are going extremely well.
Keep left unless overtaking is not strongly enforced. I really wish we can dob people in with dashcam footage when they hogging the right lane.
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(dobbing to police, and hogging…)😁Chief Wiggum?
That would open the floodgates for reporting idiots. And yourself being reported for something silly.
As much as I want the roads to be a waste place, I do want thy police attending other things.
That would open the floodgates for reporting idiots
How so ??
It should work the same way as dobbing littering which has been quite successful.
In 2020 alone EPA issued more than 10,000 fines with minimum fine of $330.If you set dashcam footage set as a mandatory requirement it will be hard to report something silly.
That’s different to an empty freeway
No I agree.
Every country I have travelled to abide by the "get the hell out of the fast lane".
We have a tendency to not give a shit. But then again, Australians have turned into selfish people anyway.
I think that is a vast generalisation. We just have a lot of white corolla driving morons who shouldn't have a license in the first place.
You only focus on the times where you have run into this issue. Also you (assuming) have spent more time in Australia than other countries, increasing the chance of this situation happening here rather than elsewhere. Almost everyone hates the drivers that are local to their home / commute. You might also be more likely to speed in Australia than elsewhere.
@SlowCarSlow: That’s absolutely not true, almost everyone in Australia goes under the limit.
In the uk/us you add 10-15mph on top of the limit is the norm.@asafasr: The poster is more likely to speed in their home country (Australia) than a foreign country they visit. That was the purpose of that sentence.
@SlowCarSlow: My personal experience overseas (where I spent more than half my life) is that while people may sit in the right lane, they move over if they see you creeping up.
Generally these people are already doing 20 over the limit, anyone doing less don't even bother being in the fast lane.
It's Australians for some reason with the need to hog the right lane. Maybe because it's not a rule that's often enforced.
Hence our PM.
Mandatory License retesting would do wonders…..
It won’t do anything to improve keeping left. It was never tested
It's covered in the learners handout page 85, 126. (edit: comes in English, Turkish, Arabic, Chinese and Viet).
A lot of things are covered, but it’s useless if it’s not tested.
it’s useless if it’s not tested.
Unless its enforced most people won't follow the rules.
I see people changing lane without using indicator almost in daily basis - if you do this during the test you'll get deduction point.
Hook turn is covered, but no1 can do a proper hook turn
@asafasr: What? I probably done 2 hook turns in my whole life and I don't see what's so hard about it.
@CMH: I don't see what's hard about it, I see why it's a stupid thing to do and illegal almost everywhere.
Ahh Victoria, the education state. (Just saw a Victorian licence plate the other day. It's been ingrained into me since childhood to mutter "bloody Victorians" whenever I see one. Funny how whenever I see something dumb on the road, I check the license plate to see if it's applicable)
@SlickMick: It is so that people turning right don't block the trams that go through the center.
Feel free to correct me, but you find hook turns are only required where there are trams (maybe trains?) going through in the middle of the road.
@Baysew: Oh ok, I've never heard of it but I guess you guys do it in Melbourne cos of the trams. I'm in Perth
@00broke00: No not because of the trams. It's for the tourists, like wearing black, having a food and coffee fixation, graffiti in laneways.
@Baysew: yeah for the tourists: "Get in the left lane" "No I'm turning right" "yeah get in the left lane" "are you on crack?"
There'd be no cars driving around Box Hill or Springvale…
bring it on!
You realise the keep left rule is only for 80+ km zones (not 80)? Theres hardly any 80+km zones in Box Hill or Springvale
Theres hardly any drivers in Box Hill or Springvale.
The drivers that want everyone to get out of their way on the right lane are far more dangerous.
They'll tailgate at 110km/hr to pressure you into moving left, even when a simple flick of the high beam would safely communicate their intent.
Sometimes a two lane road is busy and naturally both lanes are full at 110km/h. But for some reason I frequently see the angry driver that will tailgate anyone in the right hand lane to get them to go faster. They can't. And even if the driver could move into the left lane there's another 20 cars in front to tailgate in turn.
Just chill.
It’s a different scenario if the freeway is busy, you are allowed to use the right lane until the left frees up. I’m talking about an empty stretch of 20km road where 5-10 cars just cruising on the right.
I also hate the multilane highways where everyone picks a lane. The rule is use the left lanemost lane unless overtaking. Only if you need to overtake someone who's overtaking someone else should a 3rd lane be necessary. The right most lane should be clear for emergency vehicles except when there's congestion.
But it doesn't take many Australian vehicles to clog our highways because in general, we suck as drivers.@SlickMick: Unfortunately the rules (in Victoria at least) say you only need to stay out of the rightmost lane.
@CMH: Yeah we have people crying "nanny state - we don't need laws" yet we see the results of not having everything nailed down in law and enforced.
My driving instructor said "keep as far left as possible" - I've never needed to see if it's a law, but on a single lane road I keep away from the centre line, on multi lanes I keep left unless I have reason to not be (turning right or overtaking). It's not that hard to be considerate of others.
even when a simple flick of the high beam would safely communicate
That would imply that people are actually paying attention, and, heaven forbid, checking their mirrors.
It is quite common where I live for people to stick to the right hand lane, parallel to another car, not overtaking, blocking traffic, when both cars are sitting under the speed limit (i.e. 85-95km/h in a 100 zone).
I've witnessed it to be mostly P platers and senior people near me.I will flick my high beams as courtesy a couple of times, if still nothing, a couple of quick honks of the horn, if still nothing, I lay the horn on.
People really do need to learn about how to drive on the road and actually pay attention to what's going on around them, and it's worse since we've come out of lockdown.
People sit under the speed limit in perfectly fine weather causing this to happen more often.Really is frustrating.
Gees you must be a pleasure to be around, hot head.
Take some advice from this guy: https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/612724?page=1#comment-1025…
causing this to happen more often.
You poor sausage
If one doesn't notice another car coming up behind them until they are right behind them, they should not be driving.
They shouldn't need to get that close, and certainly shouldn't need to be signalling to you. If someone is behind you in the right lane, they clearly want to go faster than you, and you need to get over and let them.
If you're overtaking someone, they should be a bit tolerant, but really the courteous thing is to let the fastest drivers go, and you overtake after them.Classic example is the overtaking lanes. 10 cars want to overtake the slow vehicle in front, but the one in front only wants to do 2km faster than the slow vehicle. Result: he's the only one that gets past. In a civilised society, he lefts the other 9 go first.
I need some answers , is it okay if its a 2 lane motorway ?
exhibit A.
huh?
It is not okay if speed limit is >80kmph.
The poster on Reddit is one salty Jeep driver. This op owns an is350.
Often I see people in their own worlds on the freeway, having a conversation or just looking into nothing. Typically they're the people hogging the right lane. Situational awareness is becoming few and far between these days on the roads.
Left is fast lane in Sydney
Haha yeah definitely true on a lot of bits where its a triple lane. The curb side could actually be faster coz everyone either loves stacking the right or middle.
I find its the same in the suburbs too. People are afraid to go in the left lane on the way to work as they are too scared to get stuck behind a bus.
Driving home at 3am last night as usual, on the highway, I'm the only car I can see for about 600m, on-ramp comes up, car gets on highway approx 200m in front of me and immediately goes across all 3 lanes and just stays in the right lane. For the next 10 minutes until my exit the other car just sits there, for no reason I can discern. Why?
Human stupidity has no limits.
That’s my ducking question too, I feel like people might think the right lane is an empty lane made just for them.
It must have been jimboaus, who was too scared of trucks driving over him.
heh heh heh
Some (profanity) are just the shittest drivers ay.
To the left, to the left
To the left, to the left
To the left, to the left
Everything you own in the box to the leftA 'Right Hand Lane' camera with $100 fines for each infraction would quickly change people's minds about driving on the right when the left lane is empty.
But then you'll get "rEvenUe raiSinG", "it's NoT mY FaulT" "it's nOt FaiR!" arguments, and how they were being safe because they were going under the speed limit (probably at 60kmpr in a 100zone)
OzBargain would gain a lot of new users.
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What about people who speed? Who use their mobile phone? I'd consider both more dangerous.
Drivers should stay left. But aggressive drivers who harass non-overtakers in the right lane are so dangerous. They should seek help for anger issues before they hurt someone.
People get fined all the time for speeding and mobile phone use. There’s also an underlying reason people do those things, although I don’t agree with speeding or phone use, I can understand why people do it. keeping left has no negative impact on you as a driver, and not doing it negatively impacts your experience on the road.
What about serial killers? Definitely more dangerous.
A vehicle being driven dangerously at 100+ km/hr vs a loser with a knife or whatever? hmmm I'd call it about even. What are the stats? Oh.
Approx. Numbers 2019 for Australia:
400 homicides.
1200 road deaths.
You're completely missing the point, that if right-lane-idler wasn't being stupid, there wouldn't be anyone behind them being angry.
I rarely use the horn because i know there's lots of people who would do this. So, did you do that to the truck driver? lol