Model number: VP700ELCD
Was $99 during the 2020 Boxing Day sales but with Officeworks Pricebeat this comes close.
Just picked one up at Prospect Officeworks (SA) for the NAS/router etc.
Model number: VP700ELCD
Was $99 during the 2020 Boxing Day sales but with Officeworks Pricebeat this comes close.
Just picked one up at Prospect Officeworks (SA) for the NAS/router etc.
Was wondering if I had wasted $150 buying a UPS, but just yesterday the power tripped and it kept my system going.
Working from home, if I just had router and laptop plugged into this would it give me a few hours use? Or should I choose something else?
You should buy a Tesla battery if you want hours worth of use… These are not intended to keep you going for a long time.
Be aware a Tesla battery is NOT a UPS, I understand there is a 1 sec cutover to battery power. So if you need uninterrupted power may still be required.
Your laptop can't last a couple hours?
Who works with just a laptop screen?
One that's having a power outage
Isn't that what the battery in the laptop is designed for? If it doesn't last long, time for a new laptop or battery.
you would also have to power the NBN fibre/HFC box
If the power goes out in the neighbourhood then you probably will lose the internet unless its node has a UPS as well. Depending on the technology you are using.
Yes the node is somehow powered independently and stays up when neighbourhood power is lost.
@Rutger: Sometimes.
Other times the NBN connection loses power too, depending on exactly where the outage is located.
Working from home, if I just had router and laptop plugged into this would it give me a few hours use? Or should I choose something else?
If your laptop is fully charged, yes. If the router is all that's connected to the UPS, it should last quite a while. Even if the battery isn't full, when the power goes out, it won't turn off and make you lose your work.
The good news for you is that there are also power banks that can charge a laptop, and if the NBN goes out, you can tether your phone.
These were not intended to keep you going for hours. It's just to buy you enough time (a few minutes) to save your work and turn it off gracefully.
How long will this keep a computer with 850w psu on (3080/5900x)? Just need it for dips and surge protection mainly to protect my newly built computer.
it says 390W so if your PSU is drawing the full amount it probably would trip the UPS. You'd probably need to get a bigger one.
You need a higher wattage UPS. If your system uses the full 390W, this will only stay on for 1 minute, which may not even be enough time to shutdown.
More to the point, how did you source both a 5900x and a 3080? They’re like gold dust.
JW Computers. Got the parts for whole build though.
For a full gaming PC and large monitor etc you really need a proper line-interactive true-sinewave UPS.
Find a used 1500VA APC SmartUPS - they're cheap, and new batteries are cheap too 👍
@Nom: Do you mean cheap at $779???
@Naigrabzo: They're way cheaper than that - example https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Dell-APC-Smart-UPS-1500VA-900W-D…
@lostn: Yep, that's exactly what they're like - this is standard for commercial UPS units.
"Kettle" plugs are actually called IEC connectors - use $2.90 male to female https://cplonline.com.au/alogic-mf-c13c14-1-5-1-5m-iec-c13-t… to connect your PCs and Monitors, and use $3.80 IEC to power socket https://cplonline.com.au/alogic-15cm-power-cable-iec-c14-mal… if you need to connect things like power bricks for your router etc.
@Nom: why do they do this instead of standard wall outlets?
It's an added cost to you, and I don't think they cut the price in order to make up for it, because it's not cheaper for them to use these sockets over AU sockets. So you need a bunch of adapters hanging off it which also looks dumb.
There's a reason power strips have standard plugs and not these. It just makes more sense to the user.
@lostn: Perhaps you should ask the manufacturers ?
The obvious answer is that IEC connectors are a lot smaller so you can put more into the back of the UPS, and they are not country specific so they'll work anywhere.
and they are not country specific so they'll work anywhere.
They still have to make country specific UPS's in order to plug the UPS itself into the power outlet.
These things being as heavy as they are, I can't picture a UPS owner packing their UPS and its adapters into their luggage to take with them while traveling.
@lostn: Again, I think this is a conversation you need to have with APC, I'm sure they'll be happy to redesign their products after hearing your concerns.
https://www.apc.com/au/en/support/contact-us/
Good luck 👍
@Nom: I couldn't get an engineer to speak to me unfortunately. Could only get the typical CSR who deals with suppport but didn't design the product. They told me they sell other models that do have AU plugs and I should get one of those instead. But those don't come with advanced features or high enough VA ratings.
If I'm using a 3070 with a 750w psu should I be going the 550w ups they have for sale for $20 more?
at idle it should give you about 8 minutes. Under load, not very long. Maybe 2-3 mins.
should I be going the 550w ups they have for sale for $20 more?
For $20, I'd say it's worth it.
wow, people are flexing now on UPS threads….
How long will this keep a computer with 850w psu on (3080/5900x)?
I have the same system as you. At idle, it is estimating 24 minutes on my APC 700W UPS, currently drawing 168W. This includes NBN modem, wifi router, powered hub, 27" monitor, and the desktop plugged in. That's about 13 minutes on your 390W UPS.
Under load, it will be a lot less. I'd estimate you have about 3 or 4 minutes tops if you're running some cutting edge game.
Ahhh that made me realise. I'm in an apartment so have FTTB. I can keep my Router powered up but if the building power is out I'm screwed. That sound right?
Most likely. NBN relies on power, so if the power goes out in your area then most of the time the NBN will be out. So a UPS won't help keep the internet online.
unless you have a mobile broadband la la la
Only FTTH works during power outage.
I was looking at this model last week, but couldn't work out if the battery was replaceable. If not, could be a neg vs the Power Shield Defender which is similarly priced, that definitely can have its battery replaced.
I have one of these from the last sale and as an indicator it keeps my QNAP 4 bay NAS and router up for about 60mins.
The number of power outages we have this is so handy.
https://www.shoppingexpress.com.au/buy/cyberpower-value-pro-…
Better buy for $20 more?
Is that one better suited for a 3070?
No - for a full gaming PC and large monitor etc you really need a proper line-interactive true-sinewave UPS.
Find a used 1500VA APC SmartUPS - they're cheap, and new batteries are cheap too 👍
I have a little pc that I use as a plex server and that. Would this serve a purpose for that then as opposed to gaming? Thanks for you assistance btw
@brendanAUS: The 1500VA units are pretty powerful, you'll be able to connect your server and your gaming machine without any issue 👍
True-sinewave units are much kinder to PC power supplies - the basic square-wave units (like the one in this deal) are really designed for wall-plug power supplies like routers etc.
@Nom: something like this?
https://www.bpctech.com.au/upa152v2100bb-delta-vx1500-upa152…
Waveform (Batt. Mode): Simulated Sinewave
That's a square-wave unit which is why it's so cheap…
Look for a used ex-corporate unit, they spring up regularly on eBay etc massively cheaper than the new price.
I'm only familiar with the APC SmartUPS units (APC BackUPS are square-wave) but plenty of other vendor options too 👍
EDIT : I've used this seller in the past with no issues - https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Dell-APC-Smart-UPS-1500VA-900W-D… that's the sort of thing to look for, they can be had cheaper if you're patient….
@Nom: Thanks for that. I'll request an exchange for a 1500VA unit for my gaming pc and server.
Bought the Bric a few weeks ago, and it has already helped a lot with the 55" TV
just wanted it for the annoying 30 sec outages we get, that set the TV to a hard OFF setting, requiring it to bootup, open the viewing app again…
We often get one outage followed in a few min by another.
Does not always help with the internet though. FTTN and even with the modem/router powered, internet has dropped.
Study UPS is used the same way. Only enough power for about 5-10 min max.
Are these obnoxiously noisy?
Was looking at powering a 918+ with 4 red drives which in itself I find a little annoying.
No, these are not really noisy.
Someone post a receipt, not sure if my OW will price match?
Thanks mate
they will, but not much stock in store. Good luck for it.
Better order over the phone.
just order CyberPower Value Pro 1200VA 720W Backup UPS System for $160.55 over the phone and they wave Shipping cost as well.
can use this for price beat.
https://www.shoppingexpress.com.au/buy/cyberpower-value-pro-…
CyberPower Value Pro 1600VA 960W Backup UPS System for $199 on shopping express but OW has no stock.
Didn’t they count shipping?
Thanks for the link. Ordered via OW @ 176.65 (they included the shipping)
If you want to squeeze more dollars from Officeworks - MWAVE have it for $102.99 https://www.mwave.com.au/product/cyberpower-vp700elcd-value-…
Which brings it down to $97.84
Shipping shows as $16.95
free shipping finished last night.
Been contemplating a UPS for my M1 Mac Mini could get hours and hours of useage during power outages