Speaking to HR - Do I Have Privilege of Confidentiality?

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  lonewolf on 12/02/2021 - 16:07

  Where I work, HR is purely about helping management and company get as much as they can without breaking the law / policies. If staff have any issues, only support they can get is from the union even if they arent a member.

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  [Deactivated] on 12/02/2021 - 18:21

  I say no, I contacted HR about a health issue and my manager whom I've known for 10 years told me in private everyone in upper management were discussing me.

  I work for a multi-billion dollar company, but they couldn't give a shit.

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  User64 on 12/02/2021 - 18:30

  HR is not for this
  Talk to your line manager.
  They, and their manager (or in smaller companies - the owners) probably make the call on salary.

  You need a plan .
  Review your position description (role description, original job ad, whatever you have that details your duties and the expectations).
  Then understand how you do everything and more in the role.
  Highlight extra duties and where you're consistently go above and beyond.
  Tie what you do directly to increased revenue or decreased expenses. Hard numbers if you know them.
  Remember this is about you and not your colleagues - no need to trash them to make you look good. You can highlight were you make your colleagues better; coaching, training, upskilling, supporting, then you can part claim their numbers too.
  If you cannot get a pay increase at least get them to acknowledge that they see and value the things you are doing and what more they'd expect.
  Work on a plan to do those things and let them know that you'd like to check in again in 6-12 months.

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  UNO on 12/02/2021 - 18:49

  If you want a payrise you'd better have a plan B in place. Chances are it may impact your current role. Be careful how you proceed! And good luck!

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  negger on 12/02/2021 - 20:33

  You should define your goals and performance targets at the beginning of the appraisal cycle with your manager. Make your aspirations known. Document all aspects and agree with your manager. Do periodic review with your manager to figure out how well you are tracking and seek feedback.

  A lot of managers are unreasonable of course. Don't waste your time if that's the case and make your move at the earliest opportunity. I personally have no interest working for some idiot.

  Side note regarding gender, the best and the worst managers I have had are females. Whatever that means.

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  SlickMick on 12/02/2021 - 22:38

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  I went to my boss several times, but his negotiation tactic is deflection. "You agreed to this salary in the interview, did you not? In the interview we also discusses blah blah blah. What progress have you made with blah?"
  I requested a meeting with his boss, but they invited my boss, and he turned the discussion to something else. But I managed to raise my point and got the GM to agree to a review. I will be very surprised if they can justify my pay grade being lower than others yet the responsibilities greater. We'll see.
  Next step is to bring in the union.

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  Scrooge McGoose on 13/02/2021 - 07:02

  While HR can be involved in salary reviews, they don't have final say.

  Seriously, HR doesn't have all the power you think it does. They are just the mouth piece of the management, the same management who smile to your face and use HR to give you the bad news because they are cowards.

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  snirodha on 13/02/2021 - 09:31

  Your manager got more influence to request for a pay rise than HR. Manager knows how valuable you are to the company rather than HR. Speaking directly HR will give you the usual guidelines for pay increase and will not go anywhere. If you not happy with pay i suggest look for a new job much easier than requesting a pay rise from current employer.

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  field1985 on 13/02/2021 - 11:10

  +1

  I've managed to secure two 40% pay increases in the last two years. Avoid HR like they are all COVID infected!!!

  My manager is a micro-managing POS, who blocked my raises for two years (on senior managements orders), so I snapped and went to his manager (who was just as useless), then I went to the Director to express my concerns. I never even met with him.. simply raising it as an issue was enough to terrify my manager (previously disciplined for poor management) into action and my grade was increased by the end of the month.

  Then 12 months later, I was receiving constant (weekly) job offers. I waited for one that was another grade higher (woman was retiring) and got that.

  Went from entry level helpdesk ($45k) to cloud application manager ($120k++) within 4 years.

  My advice is to find your leverage (job offer, same job in the same business paying more, performance targets, etc), then use that to justify (professionally and respectfully, never burn bridges) for your requested salary to your manager. If they dont respond, go up the chain of command (their manager), NEVER go to HR.

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  KBZ on 13/02/2021 - 13:34

  +4

  Is this another one of your:

  Dude, I think you're overestimating the accuracy of Ozbargain posts. This is a place I come to recollect funny or somewhat trivial/annoying occurrences to get a laugh out of people's (hysteric) reactions. I'm not here seeking life advice or spiritual guidance.
  https://www.ozbargain.com.au/comment/8380449/redir

  Another quality shitpost from Slavoz

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  Raj09 on 13/02/2021 - 13:35

  Hr works for employers. Don't say anything you would not say to your manager

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  ddhar on 13/02/2021 - 17:06

  Your manager will eventually hear of it. HR don't set salaries so they will confer with upper management who will then trickle the communication down to your team.

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  thebossmel on 13/02/2021 - 23:43

  Talk to your manager. Your manager would know your worth in the team. Its only his recommendation and your teams budget which will seal the decision.

  HR will just follow the direction of management.

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  equitygame on 02/03/2021 - 20:30

  HR exists to protect business interests.

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