seems like a popular deal at this price previously
Xiaomi Mi Electric Scooter Pro 2
Take the Journey further
Sleek and elegant, portable and safe
High quality batteries guarantee a riding distance up to 45km
Skid-resistant and shock-absorbing pneumatic tires
And interestingly enough, you are wrong.
It is a total SCAM that these are illegal. Beautifully efficient no-emission vehicles that free up the roads from traffic and they are illegal. Government wants you to buy a dirty 4WD.
V8 diesel. Do you can pay more rego due to the weight hhaha
what do you expect from incompetent govs?
@DEvok: You obviously don't know what you're talking about. You talk about Sydney… I live in Sydney and have owned a Ninebot for almost a year now.
The simple answer is: IT IS ILLEGAL IN PUBLIC PROPERTY
They are allowed in private property however are apparently considered to be 'vehicles' in public areas. They most definitely aren't accepted on bike lanes as they are still considered as public property. Additionally, the manufacture of my Ninebot specifically states that this scooter SHOULD NOT be used on bike lanes.
As terrible as this news is to anyone reading this, do not assume that I support these rules. I believe electric scooters should be legal and are an efficient form of travel. Moreover, I also feel that these limitations of the use of this device should be made clearer towards the customers purchasing these devices.
obey the speed limits with a helmet and you are fine.
You aren't 'wrong' here. I've had many conversations with people about this, and I've found that if you use your scooter responsibly and don't attract too much attention, you'll quite easily slide between the grey cracks of these laws :)
@DEvok: ahhh WTF bro - Totally Illegal in NSW !
Easy to read version here…
https://www.criminaldefencelawyers.com.au/blog/electric-scoo…
Hektik to read version here…
https://www.legislation.nsw.gov.au/view/html/inforce/current…
A hipster beard won't make you a man alone - go and buy a real man's car. V8 all the way. And 25L per 100 around town minimum or you haven't done enough mods to it.
@Lets Make Sandwiches: With the scooter in the boot when you have to park 5km away and hitch a ride up the rest of the way :)
Nothing stopping you riding them on private property.
lack of footpaths
It will do well in my apartment.
Of course it's illegal in NSW ffs
Mearth has it wrong about e-scooter riders not being permitted to use footpaths and shared paths. The department of transport WA site says it is allowed.
200w and 10kms though - with lots of restrictions especially on roads.
FYI in the legality department too..
The National Transport Commission recently presented their recommendations for changes to the Australian Road Rules to all State Transport Ministers. The recommendation is for e-scooters, e-skateboards, e-unicycles etc to be permitted to use footpaths at speeds to 10km/h and suburban roads at speeds up to 25km/h. The recommendation was approved by all ministers and will now be added to the Road Rules. This should happen by May 2021.
https://www.ntc.gov.au/transport-reform/ntc-projects/Barrier…
May prove worthwhile editing your post given the hopefully impending legality across the country? $699 for the Pro2 is a great deal.
I wish the limit was 33kmph on roads….. as the stock battery and controller can easily be programmed for 33kmph)
Actually, scrap that; I wish the limit 38kmph…. as going downhill on suburban roads, my Ninebot G30LP scooter maxes out at about 38kmph, with the KERS/Regen on and regenerating energy to the battery.
I have the M365 Pro and it's fully unlocked and does 34/35kph on a full charge, dropping to about 30/31kph when the battery is low, and will freewheel to 40+ down a hill. I ride it in WA and have never had an issue, but I obviously could with the wrong cop or if I get in any incident/s.
That's probably the biggest thing to be aware of, if you hit someone or something, you're going to have a bad time liability wise, as by virtue of being there you're pretty much totally in the wrong despite virtually any mitigating circumstances of the incident, at least that's my understanding.
How did you unlock your Ninebot to get to 30+? Am interested to know
@JoKing: User this ( https://scooterhacking.org/ ) website to create the new firmware with 33Kmph top speed (basically move the speed sliders all the way to the far right).
Then use this ( https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=eScooter.m365I… ) app assuming you have Android, to flash the firmware via Bluetooth to your scooter.
It's way easier than it sounds.
Finally.
Sorry but that is incorrect, the NTC did produce a recommendation to the Transport Council with draft legislation amendments to be presented at the next Transport council meeting in May 2021. This will be draft amendments, the Australian Road Rules are updated every 2 years and the next amendment (14) will be in November 2021. Even after this amendment is done the states will need to introduce the changes into state law. So it will be at least 10 months for the amendment to become law and then it will be up to Minister Constance to accept the changes into NSW road rules.
So nothing will change till at least the end of the year at best, best course of action is to partition Minister Constance to bring in laws sooner considering he and the other ministers approved the recommendations last Nov 2020. ACT went ahead and fast tracked it as they knew it was coming anyways in the ARR amendment.
How's this compared to a ninebot max? My son's friends have those and he has been on my case about getting him one.
Range is less than the Max (first generation) due to smaller battery but then that makes it lighter and easier to carry.
Other main differences include smaller wheels so more bumpy ride and this model is front-wheel drive while Max is powered by the rear wheel.
An important user aspect is that because the Xiaomi is front-wheel drive, it is a lot more easier to maneuvour and hold while folded up and carrying upright (e.g. on the train/bus), whilst the Ninebox being rear wheel drive, the huge motor is higher up from the ground when folded and held upright, making it a lot harder to carry as the centre of gravity is much higher.
Thanks for this. I'm tossing up between these 2 models also. I'm leaning towards the Ninebot Max as I don't need to worry about folding or carrying it. Just not sure if rear-wheel or front-wheel drive is more user friendly, but the bigger wheels and larger range of the Ninebot means I'm leaning towards it
Go the Ninebot Max, rear wheel drive is the go - less slippage and wear.
@fatty: I think the MAX (G30) and MAX Gen 2 (G30LP) have a higher waterproof rating than the Xiaomi as well.
Another difference is the Xiaomi typically uses a power brick charger where the max just needs a cable (adaptor built in).
Easier to carry the cable to charge at work
Where can we get the spare cable for Ninebot?
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I actually went for a spare powerbrick for the Ninebot as I've got a bunch of those cables already. This allows faster charging than stock (5A vs 3A) and incase the charger inside the scooter breaks, this will still allow me to charge.
@jamestownfx: I got mine from Ali - www.aliexpress.com/item/32865210438.html
Blue "RCA X 1.6x8mm " plug for the segway and AU for country lead.
There's also the official one but hard to get locally
https://shop.segway.com/ie-en/116/-5a-fast-charger-for-nineb…
@JoKing: No idea as I've not received it yet but there's feedback on the Ali Express site saying it works.
@BargainKen: But if you have a charger built in, where are you going to plug the output from your faster charger, does it have another input socket??
The specs listed on the site say a max speed 25KM/H yet one of the comments says they can only max it out at 10KM/H/. What to believe?
Limited to 10km/h until you connect it to the app for the first time and watch the safety video then after that you can do the 25km/h.
Also I think in Victoria you aren't allowed to exceed 10km/h but the scooter will still do the 25km/h obviously.
So we shouldn't watch that video to be able to use it in Vic
You absolutely should. Most car max speeds are 200km/h+ when the limit is usually 100km for the majority of Australia. They don't care if it can do 25km/h as long as you're not doing it when they see you or putting anyone in danger. Plus you need the 25km/h to be able to drag race old ladies on mobility scooters when the cops arent looking.
@Bread Pitt: Just funny limiting 25km/h for scooter while bike or even electric bike can go much faster
@brongz: E-Bikes are also limited to 25km/h in Aus and most of Europe. NZ can get to ~32km/h, must be nice.
This can also be firmware hacked to operate at >30kph. Here is a YT video showing the free version.
I'd recommend this lol. I've done this on my Ninebot and I'm going at 34km/h instead of the limited 25km/h haha :)
Could you point to the tutorial you used? Haven't been able to get mine over 24km/h.
@jlccarv: Not too sure which tutorial I used as that was a while back… But just have a look around and try and find something which is similar to what I'm explaining here.
Download Xiao-flasher from the play store, change your region to the 30km/h one
Then head onto this website:
https://esx.cfw.sh/#
Go through and tick all the preferences you want. Find any popular video guide which uses this method and go through the process. Keep in mind, it might be a good idea to cross-check with multiple videos if you have any questions
In this website you can pick what max speed you want and the increase in acceleration (Check out some guides here to find what's right for you).
Then you'll have to head back to the Xiao-Flasher app and flash the zip after downloading it. You might have to change your Bluetooth version of your scooter to one shown in the video guide you find. Then you should be able to simply flash the zip file to your scooter 👍
These require registration in some states, right.
They can't be registered anywhere. Read the very first post about legality in various jurisdictions.
Ive seen people ride these to the local Centrelink.
Cheaper in long term then taking public transport as they need to constantly go there.
No helmet ironically.
Too expensive may be
@SnoozeAndLose: i have a theory that, at least in developed countries, people dont stay poor (generally) because they cant earn money. they stay poor because they cant manage money well. ive been to some public houses. one of them had a massive flatscreen (back when that was new tech). then a friend explained it from their perspective: spend money on the essentials
@belongsinforums: I completely agree, see a lot of people complaining about not having any money with two full sleeve tattoos that would probably have cost more than 1k each arm.
@belongsinforums: I wonder if, like a lot of people, they spend big on luxury items because they think they'll feel better given the deeper-than-average hole they're in. Which they do, with the temporary dopamine hit.
I guess it amounts to the same thing - not managing money well.
But where do most people learn money management? From their parents. I'd say this is a huge factor in poor people staying poor.
Considering the potential for a parking ticket would deduct almost a quarter of their pay seems like a good investment.
W / iPhone 12 in the back pocket.
🤣 So accurate.
How are these on hills?
Down hill smooth sailing
Lol, so not so good uphill?
I normally go S shape when the hill is more than 10% inclined
It really depends on the weight of the rider. I find it's great on hills 75kg. But sucks the battery. I always help out when I can.
Any tips for further savings at jbhifi? Already using a marketplace gift card for the huge saving of $20.
A few people in my area own these scooters now, mainly adults using while kids are at park. Just a big kids toy
Get a push bike, it comes with free exercise.
Plus, you'll either lose weight or afford yourself the right to eat all the bargain garbage (food) people post on here. Win, win.
If you can be bothered showering and carrying a spare change of clothes (sweaty boi).
And a big plastic bag for a big wet towel, cloths, shampoo and etc… plus uniform for work. That's why I gave up going to gym on the way to work.
These normally go for over a grand?? Christ
They normally go for $699…
in china should be about $300 iirc
Not quite that cheap.
https://www.mi.com/search?keyword=%E6%BB%91%E6%9D%BF%E8%BD%A…
Around $299 RMB for the Pro model, which is $537 AUD
Non Pro is much cheaper…
300 rmb is (profanity) cheap!
I bought one of these at this price just before Xmas and it’s a lot of fun. I’m hopeful it’ll be legalised in NSW sometime this year. At the moment I’m limiting myself to scooting around Darling Harbour. I did go across the harbour bridge at the weekend and that was a hoot. Compared to my ebike it’s definitely just a toy but it’s great entertainment.
Is it legal to ride this around Darling Harbour?
Short answer is "No".
Don’t you think it’s funny when electric bike can go much faster than electric scooter?
Why only electric scooter has 10km/h limit while both are the same electric rides?
I think it's likely because bikes are much more stable/controllable
Maybe according to legislatiors. I own a bike and scooter. Both are safe if you aren't behaving like a (profanity).
I saw a half dozen Ninebots parked at my workplace today. Clearly a few people are doing commutes on them. Parked my 29er mtn bike besides a Ninebot Max, and the Ninebot didn't look tiny by comparison - pretty serious bit of kit.
The ninebot is probably heavier than your bike ;)
The xiaomi is much lighter though.
For sure. My bike is not carbon, but still only 12kg or something!
For all the iS tHiS lEgAl To RiDe people check your states rules in this thread.