Guys need some help in choosing a car.
I have shortlisted Suzuki Vitara , Mitsubishi ASX, Hyundai Elantra,Honda civic.
I am just not able to decide on the car.
I currently have a Suzuki swift and BMW 320 and want to replace the swift with any of the above.
It doesn't matter if it is a sub or sedan. What really matters to me the reliability and engineering/technology ofcorse within that budget.
What would be your best pick.
I haven't test driven any of them due to time constraints.
Wondering what are your thoughts.
More than happy to reach out to any of your friends or references . Helps me and help their individual targets aswell.
Baulkham Hills Sydney. Thanks
Help Me choose a New Car 25K Budget
WPExpress on 26/12/2020 - 11:36
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In what world is a 2.5 litre engine "massive".
@WPExpress: Sure, heres some info for you. The engine size does not directly correlate to fuel consumption. I'll leave you be now, carry on.
@brendanm: How does engine size affect fuel economy?
With a larger engine able to burn more fuel with each revolution it turns in a minute (rpm), it’ll usually consume more fuel than a smaller engine would during the same journey.@Powlie85: It's not that simple at all. Engines have different efficiencies to start with. If you then have an underpowered engine working hard constantly, it will use more fuel than an engine that isn't working as hard, and is working where it is lost efficient. You can't just make a blanket statement that larger engine = worse fuel economy.
@brendanm: Yeah sure. That also works the other way. In city traffic the 320 engine will have a terrible mileage compared to the swift.The driver matters as well. What the comment said that larger engine on the same trip will usually consume more. More often than not that's the case though maybe not between a 2 and 2.5 certainly between 1.6 and 2.5.
In clownworld. Or a capital city where you only have to get to get between the train station and your house I guess? Of course I'm old enough to remember when a 351 was 'nice' and a 308 was 'about right' and could afford the petrol to run them. :)
I currently have a 3.5 Magna but she's looking a bit shaky now with 260,000km on the clock. Looking at going to down to a 2.5 Rav4 Hybrid as the hybrid seems to move along pretty well under 40km with the engine kicking in above that. 2.5 would be the smallest I would go.
@EightImmortals: If it is jus point A to B or shopping errands. Anything 2.0 or Under should suffice. Why pay for the 2.5 which I am not gonna use. Mind you the price difference is huge.
@EightImmortals: Drive one of the Hybrid RAV4s for work and the engine switches on and off all the time.
No 40km or 40kph (if that's what you meant) threshold.
I believe the EV range is pretty small but never tested it.@Leo Getz: That's interesting as I'm sure the salesperson told me otherwise. Though I guess it would make sense of your charge level was low that the engine would come on more often? Otherwise how is the car?
@EightImmortals: It's the first hybrid I've driven and really like it, each to their own I suppose.
Was different with the engine turning off and on all the time, but don't notice it much now.
Feels solid on the road, not tinny, fairly quiet with regards to road noise, put the foot down and it's got some oomph, stops well too.
Really like the speed sign detection, one push of a button and the cruise adjusts to the speed limit, but has a tendency to overspeed on a crest.Unconfirmed, but think the front seats are slightly shorter than the previous model.
Drove one of those for a while for work, and it just felt shorter in the new hybrid, although it probably isn't just a hybrid thing, probably the same across the range. We still have the older one, should measure it to check.
@EightImmortals: A 351 is still 'nice'. My 302 is still 'about right' though.
Rav4 Hybrid is the first decent Rav4 ever created imo.
@BartholemewH: Oh I dunno, we had the 2005 model and it was pretty good, only complaint was that it was a bit heavy on fuel due to the AWD but going hybrid has solved that issue.
Places like Europe and Japan where everything is small.
looks like you purushed his buttons
I have a falcon XR6 4.0 and don’t think the Engine is massive. But ok if he had a Suzuki Swift, a 2.0 would mean a bit of an upgrade. However I highly recommend go away from the elephant shoe and get a real car, you will love it mate!
@Thrifty Dan: I sold my 1985 Suzuki Swift 1.3GC to a guy who told me he had a hotted up V8 Foulcan or Oldhen (I forget) - but wanted to drive from Sydney to see his family in Adelaide - and was tired of pouring $50 notes into the petrol tank.
He was very happy when I told him my Suzie Q with cruise control I'd fitted myself DIY would use maybe 5 litres/100km on the highway …
I reckoned that Suzy was the closest thing to motorbike fun on 4 wheels (10 year ex-rider before my major crash) - so my first question would be why OP wants to dump little Suzie ?
FWIW - I drove a Hyundai i30 rental car in England - performed perfectly - I found it perfectly boring and forgettable - I'll never buy one of those
I have an ancient Honda Civic - which I find fun to drive - I've read it's more fun than a Corolla - so if between Hoondie or Hoondah I'd go the latter … meself …
Poor man’s world ;(
Fuel economy of the Toyota 2.5L is basically the same as the ASX 2.0L because it's more advanced all round despite giving more meaty torque.
But out of your budget.
It has a greater real estate too. Yep out of budget 😊.
@WPExpress: +1, Defo buy the Mitsu ASX. Based on your comments above, you will appreciate it's class-leading build and engineering
LoL….'massive'
"Massif" - Ali G
Are you from the Gulliver travel
Camry checks out for OP.
People think Toyota gets good reliability by using 'old technology'. Meanwhile Mitsubishi actually uses old technology year on year
They dumped heaps at poor uber drivers. No more too fast driven drivers. Rear passengers get a free knee massage having them perched against the front seat in virtual non-existent space.
Yeah, I hired the ASX and it was terrible.
I have just bought a Hyundai Kona and love it
Test drive them. Your butt in the drivers seat will give you a better indication which one you like than mine, on the couch at home.
Start by narrowing it down to one style either SUV, sedan or hatch. Pick Japanese or Korean and off you go to test drive. Come back with a list of 2-4 in the same class for the wise internet to cast its eye over.
Agree, just need to organise time. I keep pushing it. Will need to review this.
If you don’t feel the need for an SUV, get a hatch or sedan. Cheaper running costs.
I have had a hatch (swift) again a HB Will be boring. Hence thinking of a compact SUV or compact sedan.
How is a small SUV more expensive to run than a hatch or sedan? Exclude 4wd and AED variants in SUVs and they are just a jacked up sedan.
Underrated practice
Anyone Here owns any of the above? Would be interested in your feedback.
Kia Cerato and the Hyundai Elantra are basically the same car. I just got the Elantra because I liked the interior looks better. Engine is a bit noisy when cold, once it heats up to operating temp it quietens down. Good on fuel. Cheap to run and maintain.
Love the feedback. Thanks. I like the Hyundai for the design
Pretty sure the cerato comes with more features in the base model and has longer warranty.
7 years for Kia, only 5 for Hyundai.
I found the Cerato just looked 'cheaper' than the Elantra on the inside. But that's just my opinion.
Engine is exactly the same between the two of them. But not surprising since Hyundai owns 50% of Kia. Wouldn't be surprised if the platform is the same.
@capslock janitor: The new platform sounds good, and the interior looks nice, but I don't like that front bar and the boot design.
As long as the cabin space is Elantra sized it's not bad. But I went an Elantra over the i30 because I had to bend my knees to drive the i30, and I don't like that.
@AdosHouse: Get the KIA, because of the extra warranty.
Make sure you get comphrehensive car insurance as well.
Make sure you don't get sucked in by the crappy costly extras that car salespeople may try on.
Perhaps invest in one of those Aldi car covers that offers a bit of hail protection.
https://www.aldi.com.au/en/special-buys/special-buys-sat-2-j…
We have a Cerato GT. My next car is almost certainly going to be a Stinger. Kias are excellent value for money.
In relation to Cerato, ride is pretty firm but it does have a sporty drive and lots of nice kit included like heated/cooled seats.
I agree that Kia is great value for money.
I like the Stinger, they look good and go good. Everything you wouldn't have associated with Kia 10 years ago. South Korea has come a long way. Just as Japan did a few decades ago.
@AdosHouse: Why do I rarely see a Stinger on the road. Lots of talk about them online hasn't translated in to sales, apparently.
I bought Kia Cerato in 2017 for $18K, Elantra was about $22K at that time. Couldn't justify the $4K price difference. Cerato had almost everything Elantra had. Elantra had slightly better interiors though. Kia is great value for money. 7 year warranty, 1 service per year, which is capped. Happy with it so far.
I got mine in 2018. For me the equivalent Cerato to the base model Elantra was the Cerato Sport (?), and then the price difference was smaller. But my biggest reason for going the Elantra was picking up an Elite model for $22,800 as a demo with only 28km on it. Elite had the leather interior, keyless entry/start, dual zone climate control, chrome exterior accents, etc.
Suzuky all the way, they now come with a snorkel that gets the chicks to turn their heads!
show me that snorkel 🤔
My last car was a Civic Si. Best car ever. Compact, comfortable, clever, zippy and just never breaks down or has issues.
Thanks nebula . The last I have driven a Honda was Honda City it was called I think. This was ages ago. Great driving comfort. Unforgettable experience.The driver visibility at its best I would say. Certainly worth the consideration and aggressively priced aswell.
The last I have driven a Honda was Honda City it was called I think. This was ages ago. Great driving comfort. Unforgettable experience
For a minute I thought you were reviewing a RR Phantom 🤦
I really love my kia cerato. It is very comfortable to drive, has a bigger boot than other cars I was looking at at the time and comes with apple carplay/android auto and a 7 year warranty. I know camrys are the ozbargain favourite but they were several thousand more expensive, and only had a 3 year warranty and no apple carplay. So it was hard to justify not getting the kia. The kia had all the same safety features as well.
All Camry's have Apple/Android support now. But no sense comparing, Camry is a class above.
Absolutely. Really smooth reliable cars. Easy maintenance, cost effective .Always got positive reviews about Camry. Great soild built too. Over budget , me thinks
If you find time to do some test drives, definitely check out the cerato as well. You'll be surprised how nice it is
camrys are the ozbargain favourite but they were several thousand more expensive, and only had a 3 year warranty
thought it was 5 years now, and a bonus 2 years if serviced as recommended by the book .. or was it 3+2 …
'Camry is a class above'
lol - a class above - every taxi on the road … ?
which is a Camry Hybrid - last time I looked
most taxis I've taken to the airport have had shot suspension - unh - no thanx …
Pity about the rock hard bouncy suspension
I drove a current Camry Ascent Sport. Its suspension was soft and there was a lot of body roll…
Yes, you need to compare the Camri with the Kia Optima not the Cerato which are more similar and at a similar price point.
I have a Cerato too - I absolutely love it. Cheap to run, lots of room and a really comfortable drive. My second Kia (my first was a Rio that I had for 5 years), can't recommend enough
Another here in the Cerato fan club. Very little extra to get the Sport/Sport+ packs which add awesome luxury. I've had my new Cerato a year and I can't recommend highly enough.
One more Kia Cerato fan although I got the GT which is above OP budget. Really great car but the hard suspension is not for everyone, recommend test driving it over speed bumps before committing. Great fun to drive though.
Not considering a Toyota or Mazda at all ???
The badge is literately a sticker. Change it if something so small disappoints you.
Don't know why you're getting downvoted for this, Mazda and Toyota are way overpriced for the features they offer.
Don't know why you're getting downvoted for this
clearly by kia fans who aren’t impressed
what about MG?
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