Why Do Android Phones De-Value So Bad ?

RobotWizard on 24/11/2020 - 23:39
Last edited 24/11/2020 - 23:50

I recently purchased the most expensive phone I've ever had which had a market Value of $1600 Brand new, Phone in question is Oppo Find X2 Pro, I have always been a android user for past 10 or so years but have always had mostly Samsung phones, After looking at so many reviews online I decided to pull the trigger on Oppo due to Samsung using Exynos chips in Australia.

I was just so use to Samsung UI, even after spending some months I was just not happy with the phone, I noticed that despite of having top of the line hardware it was still not that exciting to use for me.

Now one of my friend was updating his iphone from XS to iphone 12 so I was like what the heck, I might as well try it, it can't be that bad and that's when I decided to purchase his used XS and list my Oppo online, I listed it on facebook marketplace and Gumtree. I posted the OPPO for $1200 and came down to 11 and then $1000. The best offer I got was $750 which was bit shocking to me because this phone is in amazing condition with not even a scratch on it and still has warranty left so I left it for few days and once I was set with iphone I decided to sell the XS and buy XS Max since screen of XS was bit small for me, I listed the XS on facebook and Gumtree as well, within 1 days I had 25-30 messages and I actually sold it for $150 more than what I paid for it. I MADE $150 on used frikin phone.

Few weeks gone by and constantly getting lowballed from same 2-3 people who messaged me I decided to buy Facebook Boost for Oppo which I never did in past for any item I sold, still no luck. Now I have finally listed it on Ebay auction and just want that thing out of my sight.

Looking at JB website Oppo is now listed for $1200, Now we all have our own reviews and I really use to hate on my friends who use apple but THIS experience right here made me an apple fan, Android brands de-value their devices themselves whereas apple doesn't.

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Comments

  • netsurfer on 26/11/2020 - 16:46
    +2
    • iPhones tend to retain values better in the first year. That's because Apple doesn't discount the phones until next year's models are available. So, it is possible to make a profit if you have the latest phone and sell it before the next model is released.
    • Android phones, tend to lower their RRPs progressively. That's why buyers expect lower price even within the first year.
    • However, if you keep your iPhone for a few years, its value will drop just like Android phones.
    • In Australia, iOS has 54% market share. Basically, there is more demand in Australia for iPhones.

    Apple is now flooding more market segments with iPhone SE, 12 Mini, 12, 12 Pro, 12 Pro Max. Android phone will have a hard time, unless Qualcomm somehow exceeds expectation by a big margin with their next mobile CPU (unlikely, considering Qualcomm appears to care about about cost and we do not know whether the next CPU will be TSMC 5nm or Samsung's inferior but cheaper 5nm).

    • neonlight on 26/11/2020 - 19:58
      +1

      I would buy an iPad but no longer iPhone.

      Tablet space Apple has done a great not so much of its phones for value

      • cannedhams on 27/11/2020 - 22:50

        Yeah, thats the weird thing. Even back in the day, you paid twice as much for an iPhone than you would for an iPad. Its basically a bigger iPhone without the making calls bit. I mean, wtf?

        Build quality on the iPads are excellent, really. The only iPhone purchase my family made was a iPhone 5S, the screen came off because the glue wasnt very strong. The world's biggest company and they can't figure out how to glue on a screen? I never had that problem with cheapie Android phones.

  • H_J on 26/11/2020 - 16:58
    +2

    You should not pay $1200 in the first place , brand like Samsung they discount their new phone in the first month ( my experience with note10)

  • Kegsta on 26/11/2020 - 19:10
    +4

    The biggest issue is that you paid RRP for the phone, rather than waiting for a deal (quick search on this site shows it for just over a grand) that's the same as walking into a car dealer, paying the full price on the web site, then paying for all optional extras and then wondering why it's only worth half what you paid for it two years later.

    Apples holds it's value better because 90% of girls only use apple and you would be uncool not to have one, they have an easy to follow upgrade path so any noob buying second hand can tell they will be getting a better phone than what they already have, on the other hand if you have a galaxy 7 and see a google pixel on facebook going cheap, you need to do a bunch of research to work out if it's even better.

  • witsa on 26/11/2020 - 20:33
    +6

    It's because Apple actually care about the after sales support. It's part of the experience when you buy an apple product.

    You got any problem, you take it to the Apple store, they'll fix it for you more often than not for free even if out of warranty.

    You get security and os updates on time and for years afterwards. Their business model isn't just selling you the hardware, it's keeping you in their ecosystem.

    Android manufacturers couldn't give two shits about supporting you once they got your money. Why would they? Their business model is just in selling hardware so it's razor sharp margins and a race to the bottom.

    There's very little value proposition buying flagship Android phones that are the same price as iPhones. You're paying the same high price and not getting any of the after sales benefits.

    Having said this I am an android user. I prefer the interface but I buy mid-range phones. Many of them aren't that far off flagship specs anyway and the price is cheap to begin with.

  • DiscoJango on 26/11/2020 - 21:00

    Part of it comes down to, apple only having a few models: iphone 6, 7 8 etc

    Whereas when you do a search for an android mobile, there a million and one results, and if your just a regular joe, you have no idea wtf an "Oppo" is and if its any good

    Going back to apple, a regular joe will know that pretty much any apple phone they get, will be "good".

    Essentially, with android, your buyer market is tiny compared to apple.

    In car guy terms: a majority of the population instantly know what a toyota corolla is. Renault megane? Not so much.

  • Ctn on 26/11/2020 - 21:28

    Simple Apple > Android bwahahahaha

    /troll

  • da1andonly on 26/11/2020 - 22:31

    Simple economics of supply over demand. Apple sheeps are willing to pay more for their iphones

  • lunchbox99 on 26/11/2020 - 22:56

    Well you answered your own question.

    You bought it and "despite of having top of the line hardware it was still not that exciting to use for me", so you sold it. Maybe everyone else has the same opinion of Oppo.

  • bmerigan on 26/11/2020 - 23:12
    +1
    1. You paid absolute full price which few others would be willing to pay.
    2. It's not a well known brand so there's not a very big market for you to sell it to.
    3. 95% of new phones are below that price so it's hard for someone to justify buying your expensive used phone.
  • TimApple on 26/11/2020 - 23:13
    +3

    Simple supply and demand my friend.

    Demand for second hand iPhones is way higher. People trust the brand and has good past experience when using second hand Apple products. Android phones on the other hand don't have very good track record in longevity and software support.

  • earth worm jim on 26/11/2020 - 23:30

    Supply and demand.
    No one wants an Oppo esp, so you were worse off even compared to most android phones. If you are going android and want to retain value relativly better, go with Samsung. And even if you lose an extra 10% compared to apple… atleast you don't have to deal with apples shitty eco system and bloated prices to start with.

  • Yogojunzo on 27/11/2020 - 00:08

    They both devalue anyways. Apple is just alot slower. I'd still prefer andriod due to customizability and being open source. If you want something that has value, better invest or buy commodities like gold.

  • browser on 27/11/2020 - 01:08
    +2

    Owning the software and hardware gives you better control of the end product.

    Under reasonable care, a non technical person can have years of trouble free use of an iPhone.

    Under reasonable care. a non technical person can have months of trouble free use of an Android phone.

    Under reasonable care, a technical person can spend hours on end to "customise" an Android phone so it doesn't slow down so much.

    I used Android phones until Galaxy S7, everyone one of them was considered high end at the time but everyone of them slowed to a crawl after just a few months.

    I switched to iPhone 7 in 2016, zero troubles and 4 years on still getting updates to iOS 14. Got an iPhone 11, apps, messages, call histories, screen layouts, personalised settings, photos, everything seamlessly transferred over. Too easy.

    Conclusion: if you want something that works well and for a long time, get an iPhone. If you like to spend a lot time fixing customising your phone, get an Android phone. :D

    • Quantumcat on 27/11/2020 - 07:52
      +5

      Under reasonable care, a non technical person can have years of trouble free use of an iPhone.
      Under reasonable care. a non technical person can have months of trouble free use of an Android phone.

      LOL. Love it

    • striker5950 on 27/11/2020 - 09:03
      +1

      THIS >>>>> I used Android phones until Galaxy S7, everyone one of them was considered high end at the time but everyone of them slowed to a crawl after just a few months.

      same here, i used flagship samsungs at the time of purchase, after a year you notice some lag. but rn my first iphone 11 is going like day one. no lag, constant security updates. secure face ID banking. amazing security features like no access to mic, gps, contacts, photos, and everything else, like you can block all of that.

      • dji1111111 on 27/11/2020 - 09:36
        +1

        slowed to a crawl after a few months? sounds like an exaggeration of the century.
        iPhone 8 I have for work is slow as even though I have not installed any app since it's only used for work calls so they do slow as well although not as bad as Android. To say it's going like day one is a complete BS

        secure face ID banking - you do realise android has biometric security also?
        "amazing" security features like no access to mic, gps, contacts, photos - you do realise android has all of this also which you can set for individual apps

        I just love how Apple users have zero knowledge about technology and just assume Apple has all these great things that Android doesn't have. Far from the truth and they just don't know it.

        • striker5950 on 27/11/2020 - 17:35

          did i saw to a crawl? no
          i said slowed down as in noticeable slow down at times like a lag spike

          you are talking to a guy who has used nothing but android since 2010 till 2019. so i know about all the features of android. if you dont know anything about ios 14 security go watch a video on it. its more than what i mentioned. also dont tell me androids biometric (photo) face unlock is the same as iPhone. and don't mention the last pixel phone coz they removed it from the new one.

          • dji1111111 on 28/11/2020 - 10:10
            +2

            @striker5950: Unbelievable you don't even know what you wrote. Maybe have a read again? You literally wrote "every one of them slowed to a crawl"

            Well you don't even know what you wrote coming into a debate so I think it's safe to say you don't know anything about Android lol

    • dogboy on 27/11/2020 - 15:32
      +1

      You mean until Apple bricks your old phone or deliberately slows it down to force you to buying an upgraded model.
      Your whole logic is so dumb. Your phone slows down because you put too much crap on it? Factory reset it and it is like new. Not rocket science and not spending 'hours; customising or whatever other BS you listed.

    • x d on 28/11/2020 - 11:48

      Disagree. Still have S7Edge which is running beautifully with no slowing at all compared to new. Passing it onto my daughter now that I have upgraded to a S20 FE 5G but that in itself is not measurably faster.

  • Black Brown Blue on 27/11/2020 - 05:48
    +1

    Why did you buy the phone if you are going to sell it. Normally phones last 2-5 years. I love my Oppo find x2 neo. Yes you are right about resale apple do resell for more.

  • greatlamp on 27/11/2020 - 07:38
    +5

    The buyer of a second hand phone is uneducated, but not stupid.

    If the see an ad for an iPhone they think
    - what is the new price
    - is this cheaper
    - is this in good condition

    If they see an ad for your oppo they think
    - WTF is an Oppo
    - why is this phone $1000 when other Android phones are $300
    - the specs look good, but is the phone still rubbish? Does that much memory mean the phone is fast?
    - I'm not spending that much money on something I don't understand

    There is too much risk for the buyer, so the device won't sell.
    This is true of any product. Used gold sells for the same price as new gold. A used Toyota camry keeps its value, a midrange BMW might be a better car selling for the same price, but few have the knowledge to assess that.

    Android brands could achieve iphone level of recognition, but even just looking at flagships is too confusing. Count how many Samsung "20" phones there are.

    Only an enthusiast would buy a used android, and they are generally savvy enough to get a discount on a new device.

    • Zondor on 27/11/2020 - 13:59
      +2

      Also, Android phones typically don't receive updates for as long.

  • Dreamcast on 27/11/2020 - 08:04
    +2

    It's demand. That simple. Most people want an iphone.

    I still would never sell an old phone nor buy one.

    • dogboy on 27/11/2020 - 15:34
      -1

      Yep, it is a pretty sad reflection on how stupid and easily manipulated people are in today's society that they would ever want to buy an iPhone.

      • ThithLord on 28/11/2020 - 12:40

        Making an informed decision is now stupid? Wow. Scraping the bottom of the barrel there, bruv

      • goraygo on 28/11/2020 - 13:40
        +1

        It’s not marketing, think about a brand new Android phone might get 1 or 2 version of OS upgrade and then you are gone.

        iPhone 6S still getting latest iOS 14 updates, every updates come with some feature improvement or new features. Meaning software upgrade regularly for your smartphone. You don’t get that from Android, they are too fragmented.

        If you want a phone that last you good 5 years and continue to receive updates and OS upgrade, only Apple iPhone at the moment.

  • striker5950 on 27/11/2020 - 09:00
    1. they are not exclusive (software)
      2, they get slower faster than apple phones.
  • spammingb on 27/11/2020 - 09:54
    +1

    Funny how android fan boys say apple is over priced and too expensive. They never account for the resale value. Not to mention the long term support and performance blows anything android as on offer. There's very little reason to buy android these days if you look at it subjectively. Maybe only if you're emotionally attached to android or something

    • [Deactivated] on 27/11/2020 - 11:18
      -2

      Actually wanted to try out the new iPhone.

      Found out theres no headphone jack, just lol…

      Galaxy still #1

      • Zondor on 27/11/2020 - 13:59
        +6

        Samsung have killed the headphone jack too. It's dead everywhere, we lost.

        • spammingb on 27/11/2020 - 17:54

          I'm glad it's dead. Wireless earphones are so much better. Plus everyone and their mum these days seem to have the Bose QC or Sony wireless earphones, there's really no need for a headphone jack by most of the general population these days

    • didaswiwaw on 27/11/2020 - 14:37
      +2

      Yes, you are smart. Too many ppl don't take into account that android phone de-valued so bad over such a short period. When I'm looking for a $1k+ smartphone, iPhone always offer the best value.

      The only time android phone is a good buy is when its already drop by 40% off RRP or more. Also the high-end spec on Android phone sometimes mean nothing if they don't maintain a good software.

      At the end of the day, be a smart buyer and you get what you pay for.

  • VYCanisMajoris on 27/11/2020 - 09:54
    +1

    Whilst I still can't stand IOS, it's undeniable that Iphones retain their value much better. I was bored and recently checked sold ebay listings. Pixel 4 xl's are worth less than Iphone Xr's despite the 4xl being a more expensive phone that's half the Xr's age.

    You can legitamately make the arguement that Iphone's are worth the extra cost as it'll retain its value much better than Android phones.

    That being said, with the new M1 chips, alot of Macbook's should've lost the value but apparently thats not the case according to some ebay sellers.

  • blonky on 27/11/2020 - 10:34
    +1

    I notice Androids in general tend to drop prices of their handsets throughout the year- I bought an S5 quite a few years ago and was pissed to see the price drop by several hundred only 2 months after launch, and pretty much half at the 1 year point. Same deal with the Huawei P20, not happy that prices can just drop so dramatically so fast then freefall when the next version is released

    Apple doesn't tend to discount during the year, which also means used phones hold their value longer. For example, the iPhone 11 stayed at $1200 for the whole year, and now that the iPhone 12 was released, the 11 still retails for $999, or only a $200 discount

    The long term support seems to be nice too; my S5 no longer received updates within the first year so I resorted to rooting it and installing cyanogen mod

    OP I think the problem is you paid quite a premium for a brand that is relatively unknown in Australia, and who also heavily discount as they release a new phone more frequently than Apple or Samsung. None of this is going to help your resale value

  • ozbargainer88 on 27/11/2020 - 10:55

    This should be called Why do Literally Who phones devalue so bad?

  • [Deactivated] on 27/11/2020 - 11:16

    Buy a galaxy like a normal person

  • sauce2k on 27/11/2020 - 11:29
    +2

    For those who disagrees with OP, you either a massive Android enthusiast/Apple hater or haven't sold off both products previously.

    OP - I completely agree with you and it's actually very sad this is happening.

    I have been switching from Android to Apple and wise versa last couple years and I find that Apple products depreciate A LOT slower than Android.

    I bought mate 20 pro 2 years ago around $1,500 and sold it off the other day for $400. I had people offering me $200, $250, $300 etc. Iphone Xs I think came out the same year going for $550-$650 and there is a demand for it.

    Agree with there is only one Apple but many Android makers. I remember selling airpod and huawei bud for example - airpod was gone within 3 days vs. took me 3 weeks to sell huawei bud and at significant discount.

    • dji1111111 on 27/11/2020 - 11:53

      Your mistake was paying premium price for Huawei. The whole debacle around Huawei in the US and Google made Huawei devices unpopular. 1500 for Huawei handset 2 years ago is insane lol

      Same with earbuds. If you had a more popular brand like Samsung or Sony, you would have had much easier time selling. On a related note, God knows why there is used market for ear buds because it's seriously disgusting.

    • striker5950 on 27/11/2020 - 17:41
      +3

      thats coz you attract lots of indian buyers on facebook and gumtree and they all try to low ball you, its been the case with me everytime i try to sell something on there, idk if these guys wana buy and resell it or just sitting around waiting for a bargain, like 9 out of 10 messages are indian no joke

      • sauce2k on 27/11/2020 - 20:30

        Lmao agree!

  • bs0 on 27/11/2020 - 12:55

    How recent?

    https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/585812

    • didaswiwaw on 27/11/2020 - 14:44

      Damn, OP should've taken the $750 offer then.

  • macrocephalic on 27/11/2020 - 14:03
    +1

    Because new, better and different Android phones are coming out all the time. In the end the differences don't necessarily amount to much - but it seems like they're always getting better. Apple only really release a phone once a year, and ever second year it's basically a tiny upgrade on last year's phone. The new features are generally pretty conservative. This means that the experience you have from a 3 year old iPhone isn't much different from a current iPhone.

    Plus marketing, and trade in prices, etc.

  • dealsucker on 27/11/2020 - 14:18
    +1

    I have an iPhone 4S from 2013 which still works fine and holds charge. I have never had an Android last me thing long (hardware).

    • OzzyOzbourne on 27/11/2020 - 19:41

      Android only started on 2008, so unless you had both an Android and an Apple phone at the same time, then you wouldn't.
      Anyway, it's nothing to do with the operating system and everything to do with comparing a high end expensive phone manufacturer (Apple) with whatever other manufacture that you are saying isn't as good.

  • picklewizard on 27/11/2020 - 15:23
    +1

    It didn't depreciate heavily, you paid $600 too much for it.

  • Headless on 27/11/2020 - 15:45

    Bought a P30 Pro 2 years ago, snagged it for $1000 at JBHIFI when other brick and morters were trying to flog itat max price of $1500.

    Pricing has only now dropped to ~$800 and the phone is going as strong as ever

  • mxlegend99 on 27/11/2020 - 16:53
    +2

    I don't understand how there's such a huge market willing to pay almost new phone prices for second hand phones.

    I prefer Android phones. But would never buy second hand when new is not much dearer. For Android or Apple. My last iPhone was a 5s. Swapped from that to an Xperia Z2 and never considered going back to Apple.

    Funnily enough I have an Oppo branded phone now. Oppo Reno 5g. 600bucks brand new and it's an amazing phone. Coming from a Galaxy S8 this phone is so much better than anything else I could have gotten in this price range at the time.

    I never worry about resale value. My phones get handed down to my kids assuming they didnt get broken along the way. My only interest is getting a decently valued phone that should serve me for the next 2 years or so.

  • cdkane on 27/11/2020 - 17:00
    +1

    Perception of value is basically what it is. I was a top of the line Android type of person for many years, looked and specs and features and did not know why anyone would pick an iPhone over an Android. Then I switched and over time realised that the specs and features I was paying for I never used, my iPhone was always snappy, I was never felt left behind in support, and bugs were squished pretty quickly when they arose. Samsung (and others) drop support around 2 years after and even then, 6 months from release start treating your device like the red headed step child of the family cause they have something new to flog.
    Long story short, people who just want to get on with it get iPhones, pay what they he cost, and give no attention to anything else.

    • jassd on 28/11/2020 - 00:03

      Samsung supports there phones for 3 years now

      • KiwiTheGreat on 28/11/2020 - 12:56

        ha as that is not the way it should be….

      • Icecold5000 on 29/11/2020 - 21:12
        +1

        Lol, imagine paying 1500+ for a phone with only 3 years of updates which is actually an improvement over the manufacturers previous policy.

  • tyme on 27/11/2020 - 19:12
    +1

    Apple stuff is already expensive to begin with and they have a loyal fanbase that don't consider competing brands.
    There are a lot of people that would prefer to have an outdated, beat-up, 2nd-hand iphone over a new android that's cheaper and newer.
    I should know, I had to buy my sister multiple used iphones over the years until she finally got over the mentality that it had to be Apple.

    Thia isn't limited to phones either. Apple laptops hold value quite well too. Some people see this as a positive, personally I'd rather spend less to begin with than imagine how much I'll make back after I'm done with it.

  • dajackal on 27/11/2020 - 19:31
    +4

    Paying $1600 for an Android phone is not a smart move. A much more reasonable purchase would a Samsung Galaxy S20 FE for ~$740.

  • OzzyOzbourne on 27/11/2020 - 19:36
    +5

    Do you mean, why do Chinese branded phones depreciate more than Apple phones?

    • dajackal on 27/11/2020 - 20:16
      +1

      lulz so true

  • DBBROS on 27/11/2020 - 21:41

    I don't think any other phone would have depreciated like my Lumia 950XL lol

  • plasmoske on 27/11/2020 - 21:54
    +3

    You bought an OPPO. That's what happens. Their business model is basically to pump out like a hundred models every year. So many different kinds of OPPOs, no-one even knows what's the difference or cares anymore.

  • jassd on 27/11/2020 - 23:56
    +1

    Oppo and $1600 , i would not even pay that money for Samsung note 20 ultra ,anyways only apple makes iphones so they will hold value better than any other phone. On android side i usualy buy samsung galaxy series when they are on high discount which they are usualy after 6 to 9 months and hence i am able to upgrade my phones every 2 years. Just to give an exapmple bought s8 for 580 on deal sold it after 2.5 years for 200 and then bought s10 for 640$ (currently using ) and will upgrde to next samsung flagship may spend 800 to 900$ and will sell my s10, in this way i always have upgrded camera rather than wating more than 3 years to upgrade .

  • Dynamacy on 28/11/2020 - 02:06
    -1

    For me, a phone becomes unusable once it is no longer supported with security updates. There are way too many important things on a phone that requires good security imo.

    Considering that, it seems that most android phones still have only 2 years of support… from date released? So if I waited, say, 6 months for a deal, it would have already lost a quarter of it’s lifespan even if it were brand new.

    I remember crossing Samsung off my list when I was looking for a new phone last year precisely because I find it too expensive if it’s only going to last me 2 years. I wanted to get a new flagship-level phone, and iPhone ended up being pretty good value with a potentially 5 year lifespan lol.

    1 year in, still feels like new. Buried myself so deep in the ecosystem, I can’t see myself climbing out anymore.

  • [Deactivated] on 28/11/2020 - 06:17

    Duh because companies keep pumping out the same shit devaluing them, and there's no monopoly on Android as there is on apple.

  • MikeKulls on 28/11/2020 - 09:35

    The only 2 times I bought apple I found the only good thing about their products was the resale. Even though both products were near useless after less than 2 years of ownership someone paid good money for them

  • v7dal on 28/11/2020 - 11:45

    How much did you pay for the phone (with $1600 market value) ?

  • djmm on 28/11/2020 - 12:18

    Now let me tell you why.

  • Ryk on 28/11/2020 - 12:22

    I think you answered your own question, "not that exciting to use".
    no market for them.

  • goraygo on 28/11/2020 - 13:37
    +1

    If you think about the 2nd hand smartphone market then it answer your question.

    Most people get 2nd hand phones for kids and old-ish parents where majority are kids.

    Ask any kids, what brand do they want for their phone, most of them will tell you Apple iPhones, they don’t care about android phones because all of their friends are using Apple or the cool one are using Apple.

    They can airdrop, iMessage, FaceTime their friends which you can’t do it with Android phone by default, you need apps and not everyone use the same app.

    There you go, more people “wanting” to buy a 2nd hand iPhone, the price goes up.

    Besides, iPhone 6S still getting latest iOS update today, no Android phones at the same age getting any updates in the past 2-3 years. Updates means new software features, so the iPhone basically keep getting updated overtime.

    I personally really want to go Samsung Z Flip but I stayed with iPhone for the reason of being able to sell my iPhone for a good price.

  • pikapika on 28/11/2020 - 14:19
    +4

    First issue was buying an Oppo.

    Those phones are pumped out so quickly that paying full price is actually rather foolish. There are also other issues like how Oppo basically abandon their older phones for support. In Australia if something goes wrong GL getting support from Oppo themselves. Plus they've got their own terrible system so it's not truly Android as such.

    Never get Oppo. You're throwing money down the drain.

  • pharkurnell on 28/11/2020 - 14:53
    +2

    I never knew that mobiles were meant to be exciting to use..
    ya learn something every day here.

  • Gabbatron44 on 28/11/2020 - 15:44
    +2

    It's simple. There just not as popular as iPhone and they are not desirable in a fashionable sense. The cost of Apple phones make them a status and fashion symbol. Because the cost is so high they must be awesome, right. People want one because they see other people with them and want to be like them or a part of the same elite group.

  • kaleidoscope on 28/11/2020 - 15:51

    without triggering fanboys here it’ll be hard to answer but i’ll try anyway…

    iPhones hold their value because they last longer in-terms of servicing, accessories, and other parts.

    Android phones devalue quickly because manufacturers only make a profit at point of sale (everything else goes to google through app-store and subscriptions), therefore they need to spam the market with products as much as possible. Hence not many accessories, parts are harder to find etc…

    There is also a status symbol thingy with people. I personally don’t give 2 sh*ts about it, I simply use apple products because they are reliable, work as advertised and eco system is really good.

    • ozhunter on 28/11/2020 - 16:46

      therefore they need to spam the market with products as much as possible

      they need to spam the markets, because they need to compete with all the android manufacturers

  • drfuzzy on 28/11/2020 - 17:07

    Because there are more sellers than buyers.
    It's that simple.

  • Joshaldinio on 28/11/2020 - 17:28
    +2

    I find they hold their value more due to the simple fact they last longer. I gave my Daughter an older iPhone 7 that has the latest iOs version and still runs really well. I compare this to an old Galaxy S7 and it runs like shit.

    • goraygo on 30/11/2020 - 15:43

      And S7 running a 3-4 years old Android OS with no hope of getting anymore upgrade.

      I have the S7 sitting in the drawer which I cannot sell.

  • Kabal on 28/11/2020 - 19:49

    Having too many models has to be a large part of it.

    The used iPhone market has clear price tiers for each model based on how old it is. Which means you pick your budget and then there is basically only one iPhone to select. And everyone else in the market for a used iPhone at that budget is also after that exact same model.

    That said even this is starting to dilute a little, and you are gonna start to lose a LOT more on the most expensive iphone models (pro max) vs the regular 12 for example.

  • manbearpig on 28/11/2020 - 20:31

    That's why you spend $250 on a Redmi.

    • freddofrog42 on 29/11/2020 - 00:42
      +2

      Exactly and personally whilst I like nice things, it's just a phone. I'd rather put my "nice things" budget to something more useful/enjoyable.

      Sure an iPhone or Samsung xxx might have a slightly better camera but if I want that I can use my DSLR otherwise for general use the Redmi (or similar) is perfect. Otherwise what are you paying so much more for, really?

      My last one got taken out by a wave at Cronulla but okay, it's a shame but it was a $200 Redmi 4. My the current Note 6 Pro cost $250-ish 2 years ago and works fine with reasonably frequent updates. My Wifes Nokia 6.1 gets monthly updates and it cost even less. Oh, and both have dual SIM slots it means we can travel more easily too, at least pre-Covid.

      Frankly phones costing $1000+ do exactly what extra in reality?

  • frostman on 28/11/2020 - 20:54
    +1

    Phone in question is Oppo Find X2 Pro

    lol get a real Android, like Google Pixel or Samsung, not these knock-offs like Huaweii/Oppo/Xiaomi

    I sold my S9 Galaxy for $600 on Gumtree

  • [Deactivated] on 29/11/2020 - 04:06

    Mainly build quality. IPhones are probably the best build quality of any device. Look up some tear downs of some flagship phones, it’s shocking how bad the internal quality is compared to an iPhone.

  • donkeydoc on 29/11/2020 - 05:39

    To pay $1,600 for a phone means it's purely for work and earns you money, so there should be no complaints as you'd have the best mobile processor on the planet at the time and all tax deductible!

    It's a bad value buy for personal use, $600 is an excessive purchase even. My phone which i use 80% for work is Huawei Mate 20, purchased for $600. Still going strong, no signs of slowing down with amazing battery life.

  • ECE on 29/11/2020 - 05:56

    I am still using my Samsung S5 today although I have an iPhone. 😷

    • goraygo on 30/11/2020 - 15:45

      iPhone 3G?!?!?

  • kathmandu-jeff on 29/11/2020 - 08:53

    I think it really comes down to this. If you want an android phone and you’re on a tight budget, you’re spoilt for choice with cheap new low cost ones. On the other hand, if you’re on a tight budget and you want an iPhone, you’re going to be looking at the second hand market because a low cost (<$300) iPhone doesn’t exist.

  • Kamsi on 29/11/2020 - 12:08

    The prices of new android phones are overly priced. I buy my Huawei P30 pro $1300 something and now it drops under $800, fortunately I got the difference back from my 28 degrees card.

  • Caped Baldy on 29/11/2020 - 13:16

    Android market is saturated with good phones.
    I bought a new year old flagship for $600. Can't come close to that value on the apple ecosystem imo.

    Obviously there's more software support and you're buying into the ecosystem with apple.

  • AlextheMeertkat on 29/11/2020 - 13:52
    +3

    Buying an OPPO is like buying a Haval/LDV car.
    On a paper, they have way better specs and extras for for the same or even less money than any main car brand.
    Now imagine, the resale value of a 1-yr old Haval vs, let's say, a 1-yr Toyota.
    As a side note, I pass by the Haval dealer on my way to work every day and recently noticed the price tag of $30999. Yes, $30999, yes, it was a Haval. I even wiped my eyes but no, still $30999. The same story with the $1600 OPPO.

  • bigtop1 on 29/11/2020 - 14:19

    Perhaps your friend sold you the iPhone for less than market value hence why you profited $150 on the sale?

  • serpentxx on 29/11/2020 - 15:32

    Android has more competition so they get devalued quicker than apple products.

    Not really a bad thing, means you can pick up a flagship android phone for a good deal cheaper +6 months after its launch

  • imcold on 29/11/2020 - 17:45

    Just comes down to two things. Competition in terms of overlapping product lines. For Android phones, You can easily buy a new phone that has the same features and power as a flagship model from a major brand that might have been introduced 1-2 years ago. This means any premium pricing for a flagship model vanishes, when another manufacturer can eventually sell a similar device at prices close to cost. The parts used will also be cheaper as they are not top of the line. These savings get passed onto the end user.

    Apple has a more distinct product line that does not overlap. They do not price their devices based on the current manufacturing cost.

    The second reason is when you buy a iPhone you pay for the brand name. It will be a sunk cost that will prop up the overall price of the phone.

    But lately Apple has started to serialise parts in their phones. This means if you break your phone screen only Apple can fix it as each phone screen will have a serial number, simply putting in a new genuine apple screen would result in error message saying screen serial does not match.

    This lack of repair choice will likely lower the value of older iPhones significantly.

  • Ughhh on 29/11/2020 - 17:48

    Supply and demand. Only 2 company makes iPhones, there's dozens making Androids.
    Oppo isn't exactly a well known, popular high end phone. Not many people know about this brand, unless you're a techy person.

  • Ivan Krazy on 30/11/2020 - 00:57

    What I found with Apple is their after sales support has been fantastic. They look after their customers ensuring they are satisfied with their device/s. I’ve recently had an issue with the MacBook Pro keyboard, they replaced the top case free of charge even though it was outside the warranty period. I also sold my 6 year old iPad Air 2 (wifi 64GB model) for $350. Apple still supports this device to this day with the latest iOS.

  • MementoMori on 30/11/2020 - 10:07

    Because there are a million Android models

    Buy a flagship and within 6 months it's 'old'

  • lysp on 30/11/2020 - 10:54

    Why Do Android Phones De-Value So Bad ?

    Actual Question:

    Why Do Second-hand Apple Phones keep prises raised So Bad ?

  • brad1-8tsi on 30/11/2020 - 12:13
    +1

    The Android kool-aid doesn't taste as good as the iPhone kool-aid.

    I've never actually tried to sell one of my android phones. I just throw them in the drawer. Then again, the most I've ever paid is $400.

    I did sell an old iPhone once and was surprised how much I got for an old POS.

  • afah0447 on 30/11/2020 - 12:54

    Its called the 'cult of Apple' and to any rational person it makes no sense and is essentially sheep behaviour.

    Apple have trained their customer base very well to constantly buy new generation products even though the differences/improvements are very marginal at best. This has been done primarily via saturation but effective marketing in key markets.

    Top of the range Samsung phones have in tests been proved to be better…but that doesnt matter anymore. Its all about 'branding' now and making sure other people see you have the latest Apple phone in your hand.

    This is the reason why Apple phones retain their value. There will be people who want to keep up with the cult but do not have the means to purchase the lastest offering. Therefore, they are willing to pay a high price for a used phone which is a newer model than the one they currently own.

    Its pretty sad but a lot of people out there are highly susceptible to marketing and the need to 'keep up appearances' with their peer group or what is perceived as cool/trendy in society.

  • [Deactivated] on 01/12/2020 - 06:44

    How could you spend $1600 on a oppo phone?!

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