maybe a vaccine will be out soon.. how much out of pocket would you spend for a covid vaccine?
How Much Would You Fork out for a COVID Vaccine?
LCrossdude44 on 10/11/2020 - 16:11
Poll Options
- 16$1000+
- 17$300-$500
- 19$100-150
- 24$150-300
- 26$20-$50
- 62$50-100
- 508Less than $20
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governments have no idea how to implement technology to enable the first one to happen so probably need to wait till end of next year for herd immunity before restrictions are lifted like international travel
3 Eneloop cells.
$0
We seem to be missing $500-1000 as a option.
yes i was thinking about $570
I was going to go with 666….
Only 90% effective
Human body is way higher
If it wasn't covered by the Aus Gov & was mandatory for travel - realisitically up to $150 but depends how bad I want/need to travel
It’s going to be free for all Australians. So $0
COVID tests and all Goverment backed GP-led testing sites are covered with or without Medicare, so it would be reasonable to assume vaccines should be covered too.
A lot of people struggling with the hypothetical nature of the premise I see.
can't delete… why not?
Where is your NONE option?
Why should I be forced to accept what a Western Govt dictates simply bc they are jealous of the Russian and Chinese in beating them.I would firstly educate myself upon ALL vaccine formulas and their specific aims….. would you?
The Russians and Chinese only got theirs ready first because they skipped all of the normal regulations and rushed clinical trials. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gam-COVID-Vac)
Do you hold a medical science degree? How do you expect to understand a vaccine formula? In fact, the quality of your post above indicates you might have trouble with the ingredients on a packet of cornflakes.
If you trust the Chinese and Russian governments so much then go live there. Watch what happens when you criticise them on the internet. Enjoy having your organs harvested.
I only turn on the kettle in the morning after I've familiarised myself with the metallurgy of the kettle, the material science of the plastic, the safety rating of the truck that delivered it to the shop, the electrical safety standards in my house, the high voltage transmission practices, the thermodynamic functions of the power station, and the geological practices used for mining.
Then I go to put my coffee in, but I can't do that until I've learned all about the farming practices in third world countries and how they're affected by militant regimes since the 17th century.
It takes a long time to make a coffee.
You can't beat the cherry picking of the science deniers. Always highly amusing …
Great post BTW
I can’t imagine the years of higher education study you must have undertaken to educate yourself on ALL vaccine formulas and their aims.
You must be a leading researcher in the field by now!
Hope it feels good to claw back some power over your life.
If that was the case, maybe his last name is pfizer
Why should I be forced to accept what a Western Govt dictates simply bc they are jealous of the Russian and Chinese in beating them.
Feel free to move to a third-world country then. Oh what's that, too inconvenient? Then stop dribbling.
Can I have some of what you've been taking?
Actual answer, assuming Sinovac works out fine and is still going through the clinical trial process (in external companies) in conjunction with their emergency approval, it would be OK, however we wouldn't get it here cause politics and we have multiple agreements already for vaccines
negative $1000 plus.
They would have to give me $50+ million US
The govt. has already mentioned that any vaccine would be free, so $0
$0
If taking the vaccine allowed us to travel overseas, there is no price for the heartache of separated from loved ones. Cry
I'm already using viagra
0
Let the govt test on the gullible guinea pigs first. I would stay away from this. Don't know what crap they might be putting into my body. FYI I'm not an "anti vaxxer". Just a suspicious and cynical citizen.
What government? The vaccine which is likely to be used first is made by Pfizer
Then spend 30 mins reading about the science of the Pfizer vaccine. It is really interesting and cutting edge. Potentially a game changing approach.
The Government has already said that whenever it's available it'll be free, haven't they? I lose track,
Guessing it will be 'free' for citizens of every country
Pfizer and Astrazeneca both have history of kickbacks and bribery, false claims, Astrazeneca even had some fines for withholding information that showed their product to be unsafe and ineffective.
https://violationtracker.goodjobsfirst.org/prog.php?parent=p…
https://violationtracker.goodjobsfirst.org/parent/astrazenec…CSL who is manufacturing Astrazeneca vaccine in Melbourne, as well as involved in the uni of QLD vaccine made a blood product that caused: "Thousands of Australians were infected with blood containing deadly hepatitis C or HIV between the 1970s and early 1990s". They weren't made liable for this.
These companies do not have a conscience, particularly Astrazeneca and Pfizer.
I put my health in my own hands and trust my God given immune system rather than into a massive morally bankrupt company who already demonstrated multiple times they're willingness to act dishonestly to increase profits
You should absolutely rely on your 'God-given' immune system to save you from coronavirus, cancer, cardiovascular illness or any other disease for which those evil pharmaceutical companies offer therapies and vaccines.
The gene pool really needs a clean-out.
Hold up there - blood transmission of those two diseases via transfusion was not known about when they initially happened, and since that time there are stringent safeguards in place to ensure it never happens again, CSL were on board with this. And while I don't disagree that big pharma are soul sucking vampires who profit off misfortune, particularly in the United States (we're much more protected here as gov't negotiates drug costs on our behalf, not private providers) - this crowd is out to be the one that 'cured' covid. Not the crowd that killed millions with a vaccine. They want their name to known so they can sell their other drugs for chronic diseases. Once off vaccines are not profitable - people having diabetes and high blood pressure is.
That's great you take responsibility for your own health, but you're part of the community too, keep that mind.
Once off vaccines
It is hardly once off … from what I read/research. They want to milk this cow as much and as long as they can. Unless fiat $ turn into digital which issue by central banks, even that $ is $. Let's hope it is once off …
Look after your immune system, get enough vitamin D, eat plenty of fruits and veggies
Only 5% of Victorians eat the recommended intake of fruit and veggies.
Majority of people are vitamin D deficient, and vitamin D is vital to good functioning of your immune system.Those violation tracker links show the companies have this track record - of not disclosing side effects and corrupt behaviour, so can you trust them not to manipulate the results?
Read through a few of the violations and ask yourself the question "can I trust this company" ?True I'm not the biggest fan of vaccines (I have taken some e.g. Hep A and B) - but even if I fully loved vaccination, reading the misconduct of these companies would deter me from injecting something that they produced unless there was plenty of independent studies from a trusted source.
I can see how it's possible to develop this attitude when you are raised in a country like Australia where there are very few horrible diseases out in the wild.
However, as someone who has to travel internationally for work on a regular basis I've learnt that there are some downright scary diseases still active in many parts of the world. Some of these diseases are not only fatal, but can be an extremely horrible and painful way to die.
A good example is rabies, and no amount of vitamin D or vegies is going to save you from a torturous death.
Actually both of them could kill you if you have too much, you sir are wrong.
Those at risk and healthcare workers should be first to take them. I ain't touching no rushed vaccine until proper and steady research is done. We're becoming real guinea pigs even if it shows promise to x amount of people, they simply don't know how effective they are or how safe in long run. These type of vaccines take at least 5-10 years to develop
So you want the healthcare workers and older people as guinea pigs, by your logic
If it is deemed safe i see no reason why they shouldn't be first to obtain these batches imo, they are after all most vulnerable to the virus
Plus if medical professionals have no qualms with a treatment one would think it was both reasonably safe and effective.
I look forward to my lawsuit for it causing me to lose my hair. It's Defoe not mpb, it's covid vaccine.
All balding men unite!
Depends on what % discount is written. I don't care about the final price anymore ,nor do I care about the value of the product. If its more than 50% discount I will buy. Makes me feel so smart to have netted something at half price.
Whilst a vaccine is welcome, peopel should be weary, especially when we were told it would take years; when has a vaccine last taken under a year to be developed to the point where people are excited that's it's almost available?
caution is smart, but in no time in history has as much money and as much research been invested in a single problem in such a short period of time. other vaccines took years as they didn't have the same levels of funding and priority. So you can't really compare to what happened in the past. Personally I would happily take the vaccine to be able to travel again, the risk of the vaccine is almost certainly lower than the risks associated with Covid. If I planned on staying in my house isolated for the next 12 months then sure I would probably wait till everyone else had it.
While I agree on the investment, theres no ideas on long term effects of it.
No ideas on the long term effects of Covid19 either
This is untrue. The maleria vaccine was researched as national priority for several nations during ww2. Please have a quick look at malaria casualties online because you would not believe me if I wrote them here. The Nazis used Catholic priests as their test subjects in the camps.
I wrote my masters thesis on the topic.
The maleria vaccine still kills and maimes!There are still young australian soldiers having their brain stem eaten away from being guinea pigs in tumor leste.
Effort in does not equal a good result.
Several nations Vs the majority of the world. Sure malaria has killed millions more but it definitely did not have more than a fraction of the funds and research covid got, it isn't even a close thing.
@gromit: You don't know about the millions of man hours that went into anti malerial research. I know you don't because you are entirely wrong. The testing was far more advanced than covid today. They even had legality free human testing which killed tens of thousands which modern day scientists cannot replicate. If a single death slows your research then everything takes about ten times longer.
@Happy501: Im interesting in these infor, can you give me a few URL to aid with my journey down the rabbit holes ?
@Happy501: Entirely wrong? ok please do provide some link that shows 10's of millions of hours of research in less than 12 months and 100's of billions of dollars spent in the same period doing that research and I will happily concede the point.
Weary, wary or both?
Looks like I’m too weary to be wary.
Poll missing $0 option, although being pedantic $0 is <$20, but you know what I mean.
A better poll question might have been "Do you trust the Pfizer Vaccine just announced, given that they are rushing it to market as soon as possible with a view to generating lots of lovely $$ for themselves"?
I'd say it totally depends on what your allowed to do afterwards.
Unlimited Global travel?
Limited AU Travel
Limted Global travel?
No Travel but feel warm and fuzzy?Do you still need to pay up 3500 for 14 days of quarantine after you come back ?
Even just being able to go and visit my relatives in other states (and them visit me) would make it worth a lot to me. Of course it will probably be free, but that's not the point of the question, the question is just asking you to put a price on it - and we use dollars for that.
My employer would pay at least $10,000 if that allowed me to travel internationally in advance of others. It just needs the right commercial deadline.
australia mate, vaccines are free. its a public health initiative to increase herd immunity and protect those that for whatever reason cannot receive the vaccine.
some will obviously receive it first, like health workers and those with pre-existing conditions. if there is limited supply, being able to get it sooner for a fee is immoral. wait your turn.
how long should it normally take to fully test out the vaccine?
10 to 12 years.
Hmm any side effects and how many people needs to get vaccinated before they know?
I hope the vaccine is not compulsory.
The only way they can do it kneel on your neck, strap you down and jab it in.
That sounds rather uncomfortable. Hopefully it's not compulsory.
It won't be compulsory but for those without the vaccine, it may mean restrictions to things such as travelling overseas (they mentioned the vaccination on each person may appear with passports) and probably more things that are less relevant to the general public (i.e. being an aged care worker or similar). but who knows, this is being discussed for now.
Crazy, if the vaccine has anything to do with traveling abroad, it better work against the strains outside Australia as well.
Otherwise, it'll might bring new strains into Australia that the vaccine doesn't cover.
Then you just have to take a new-poorly-tested-strain lol
They could just mandate it in workplace. Done. Everyone needs a job. No jab. No work. No Sale. No Buy. GG
You will have to pay me to take it!
(HINT: there is not an effective vaccine for Influenza and COVID19 mutates faster than Influenza)
(Strain data here: https://nextstrain.org/ncov/global)
7They create many influenza vaccines every year; they're very effective against the strains that they are for. If everyone took them then it wouldn't mutate so quickly, but, because most people don't want to those viruses run rampant.
As linked, there are multiple strains of COVID19, so to make a vaccine for "COVID19" implies vaccination to all strains, which, as you point out, has not happened with ALL STRAINS of Influenza (just the most prevalent strains each year)
7What are these 'strains' of SARS-CoV-2 that you refer to?
The genetic variability of the virus around the world and through time appears to have been remarkably small so far.
https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/season-s-flu-shot…
The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention reported Thursday that the overall effectiveness of the shot in the current flu season is 45 percent.
Because they can't vaccinate for all strains, so they choose (in advance) the few that they think will be most prevalent and put those in the seasonal vaccinations.
@macrocephalic: A 45% efficiency rate is about the same as one single coin toss. Heads you live and tails you die.
@whooah1979: I don't think you have a great grasp of the logic in this. That's like saying that a bullet proof vest with 50% efficiency isn't useful. If you're going to get shot then you'd rather it be a coin toss whether the bullet penetrates you or not.
The flu is not fatal for most people, but it is for some (and it's really inconvenient for everyone else). If it (hypothetically) had an R0 of 1.5 and everyone got the flu vaccine which was 45% effective then the R0 will be reduced to 0.825 which means that the spread is slowing. If you slow down the spread then there's a much better chance of preventing the old and immunocompromised from getting infected.
Coronaviridae do not mutate faster than Influenza. Influenza viruses regularly swap whole fragments of their genome, and in turn come up with new combos and strains all the time. (H1N1, H2N3, etc, etc!) SARS-CoV-2 on the other hand doesn’t have mechanisms like that and is pretty stable. Globally there’s basically only 1 strain. Your phylogenetic map is graphically interesting but all of those strains are very, very closely related and epidemiologically identical.
You have to love a phylogenetic tree with no scale bar.
I guess it helps prevent reality getting in the way of a good story.
Zero dollar. You’re making Bill Gates richer. He want to kill us. Coronavirus is developed by the Elite.
The irony is that you're probably using a device or OS made by Microsoft. Why don't you just completely get off the internet. The internet is killing you!
No-one is that stupid. He's trolling for sure.
never underestimate the depths of stupidity.
Blimey he's moved on from his evil world domination plans via Windows 95 from the nineties hasn't he. He's gone from Windows 95 mind control to wanting to kill us all. (You do realise this Bill Gates thing is a revived conspiracy theory from the nineties right…right?)
waiting for all the anti-vax idiots to chime in with their expertise in researching karen facebook groups
You needn't wait, they're already out in force.
This is ozbargain, i want to be paid to have the vaccine
I don't see $0.
Zero. We have socialised healthcare. It is in the public interest for this not to cost money.
Happy to have one eventually, once everyone else has gone first and I've waited at least 5 years.
Three-Fiddy
Well in the Philippines they fork out $120 (for a visit to the dentist, hotel, gynecologist, ect) per a covid test, very pricey, from what I've heard.
It should be free or at least free for those most vulnerable.
Send the bill to the CCP, I sure as hell won't pay a single dollar for it.
These responses are exactly why pharma companies should just give up on vaccines altogether and let people die, as people are so selfish that they don't even want to pay 1c (specifically referring to those who say $0) for a vaccine which can cost millions in R&D because they PaY tAxEs. Vaccines are actually very unprofitable for pharma companies to develop. The only reason we have the vaccine now is because the German government decided to give Pfizer cash to do it, if there was no government assistance things would be very different.
Going against the grain of most people here, I would pay at the very least $20. If people aren't interested in paying, they can opt not to take the vaccine.
Well, public health IS what taxes are for. God forbid we get out money’s worth.
And yes, vaccines are only expensive because we don’t value them enough as a society. But that’s also a political issue. Meaning, we effectively ban research via excessive red tape and we discourage their development.
Coronavirus research is progressing because the red tape has been somewhat lifted under emergency use authorisation laws.
When that red tape comes back again - which is probably will - vaccine research will stagnate again.
What do I get for it?
Immediately be allowed to get back on my life as it was previously with zero COVID-based restrictions? Somewhere in the hundreds.
Have to wait for some massive percentage of the population to get theirs while also going through a prolonged period of restrictions lifting and so effectively get no immediate benefit? I'll join the queue for a government-funded freebie.