Found this on the back of a newspaper while waiting for my coffee. In-store only and is active on the 23rd of Oct. Bests the current gift card offer by $200.
Equates to roughly $118.3/mo over 24 months ($85 + ($799/24))
Min total cost over 24 months listed at $2839
Latest version ≠ security patch.
Its not a purely environment move, its an environmentally friend in move in Apple's context. If you have a previous charger, chances are you also have a lightning cable laying around. I have 4 lighting cables lying around even though my current phone is the second iPhone in last 5 years. Remember, you also get lightning cable with magic mouse, airpods, airpods pro, magic trackpad and other Apple products. Besides I charge my phone on a wireless charging pad and perhaps a lot of other people too.
More than anything else the box is 70% smaller and that means they can pack more phones in the same pallet space across the supply chain! That is a massive saving by itself and given a world with conspicuous consumption, i will take every little bit.
My phone expenditure is tiny in comparison. For example for last 2 years. Lived with a note 8 purchased for 740 new outright (bought a slightly used note 10+ last week for $700 so that'll be replacing it)
And prepaid plans i used were 150/yr from kogan and optus respectively. So (300+700)/24 =$41/month.
Holy Moly dudes.
Like a decade or so ago, unless it was the highest spec phones, you could get a sim card plan for $50 a month for example, but the phone came free.
Now even on the lowest plans like $29 a month, they still want you to pay like $10 a month for the lowest phone extra on top.
So a $199 phone over 24 months = $240 for the phone….and that's not even factoring in for the $29 plan…
Why would anyone go on plans anymore? You still pay for the phone costs in those plans now, and if you go outright, you are free to get vastly superior plans from the true bargin carriers.
Is it just me, or is the updoot count on this iphone going down slowly?
You will end up paying more and having an extra 100GB data wasted unused each month. 🤦🏻♂️
Unpopular opinion: phone upgrades aren't that enticing nowadays and it's really hard to justify the retail price of the new flagships.
Depends what you’re upgrading from. I’m looking forward to ditching my 2016 iPhone SE.
that is a huge huge upgrade. enjoy it!
Flagships only exist to make last year's flagships worth it.
Last year flagship sales are the real bargains nowadays.
I agree! that's what I just did. Just bought a note 10+ last week for an absolute bargain.
Peps:
"Mi 10 just came out with meager upgrades from last year guys!"
Real OZb's:
"Mi 9 is finally worth it!"
i wait to have my hand on the ip11 pro when the price drop further
Yep. We see it with consoles and graphics cards especially.
I did just splurge on a new GPU though (rtx 3080, costed $1139), but its because I'm obsessed with microsoft flight simulator and my 4-5yr old rx480 is aging. but in general the 20 series now can be found at great bargains.
Overpriced but the sheeple love it
Technically it’s only overpriced if people don’t buy it for a given price. Value on the other hand is a different story and more subjective.
What’s the ETC for this plan anyone? TIA
roflmayo
This isn't a great deal when it's over 24 months. The Telstra/JB HiFi deal is better.
I'm old enough to remember when an $80 plan over 2 years got you an iPhone for free…
i paid $73 less than 2 years ago for my wife Iphone X with Optus, can't see why ppl upvote for something like this as a bargain
For me ,either iPhone 12 or max pro.
Never buy something in the middle level.
I don't see why this deal is any attractive..
Meh get the Telstra deal. that way only locked in for 12 months.
This is wealth destroying. Super grateful for my $300 Nokia and $10 a month plan now
Diff people diff need tbh
"Wealth Destroying"
The total cost over 2 years, including phone and the plan is less than a week's salary for a lot of people. Add to that that most can deduct a percentage from their tax, and that a 2 year old flagship will usually be worth around 50% of it's original price, and you'll find that it probably isn't even a blip on many peoples' radar
It's about opportunity cost. With saved money you can invest in your own progress - not Apple's.
The market gets saturated & the resale is less attractive, particularly with the obvious 5G, standard USB-C, memory,… physical difference with new features coming.
you are wrong for this taki. Apple holds up its value against Android phones, it's quite sad lol.
I currently own an Android phone for 2 years the price has dropped so much vs. Iphone X
Wondering what a lot of people are probably wondering.
Can you take out the plan, cancel after a month and just pay off the handset (@$799?)
There'll be an ETC. Its meant to be available at https://www.harveynorman.com.au/optus-byo but currently isn't, possibly cause it isn't live until tomorrow. The $65/24m which it seems to be based on is $780
The ETC is half of the minimum charge after 24 months so you would assume the ETC on the $85 plan is $1020 so definitely not worth signing up and cancelling as you will pay $1819 for a $1700 phone
Incremental minor updates with missing needs & very expensive :(
Oppo Find X2 Pro is better interim phone until iPhone 13+ comes back to the real competition
- hopefully with mmWawe 5G starting soon & industry-standard USB-C 3.2 (vs proprietary expensive USB 2.0 :(
iFans welcome for - vote :) if UR cannot handle ozBargain opinions. Happy +time :)
Im pretty sure it says min cost $2800 but i may be mistaken…..
Some people must realllly like these phones AND need hugggge data plans.
Heres me slumming it on a Redmi Note 8t with a $150pa boost sim….
Optus currently have 100GB for $59 + extra 100GB. Total of 200GB for $59, and it’s month to month.
Harvey tends to have some decent looking but ultimately very expensive deals.
The iPhone 12 Pro isn't discounted on it, so it'd be $3114.48 over 24 months ($70.77 Phone + $59 Plan).
For the people complaining about the cost of flagship phones, here's my point of view when looking at the true cost.
The total cost for this phone over 2 years is $2,839.
I use my phone 80% for business and 20% privately. At my top tax rate of 45c, I receive a tax refund of $1,022.04 over the same 2 years.
The cost to me is now $1,816.
After 2 years, my flagship Apple phone is worth around 50% of what I bought it for, so I sell it for $800.
The true cost to me now is around $1,000, or $40 per month. That's $1,000 to have the latest model phone (at least for one year) that comes with great features, a fantastic warranty, great UI and, as a non-techy person, a phone that just 'works' without me needing to learn how to do things. I also have zero worries about data, call costs or anything else.
So, for me, the decision is easy, obviously business-use percentages and personal tax brackets will change the above.
You could get the same phone but with a cheaper data plan and possibly come out ahead.
I think you are probably right. And personally I wouldnt get such a large plan
True. You can also get 1/2 price equal features phone & good holiday that will last lifetime, or good coure that will make you more money/better life.
No 1 looks at Opportunity cost :(
Opportunity cost matters when you can only afford one or the other. If you can't afford a holiday, you're unlikely to be able to afford this phone. The opportunity cost, for me, of this money, is that it's not in my mortgage offset. That's it. I already have a masters, go on enough holidays etc.
Could also argue that holidays don't last any time at all beyond the actual holiday. This phone will last for 5 years if you want it to.
Apple has released 17 iPhone models in five years. Anybody who can't see this rort needs to see the Fred Hollows Foundation.
It's really more like 1 per year.. targeted at a specific audience with a specific type of phone. It's not like there are 17 series of upgrades in that time… so not sure how that is a rort.
Since September 2015 Apple has released the Iphone 6s and 6S+, SE, 7, 7+, 8, 8+, X, XS, XS Max, XR, 11, 11 Pro, 11 Pro Max, SE (2nd gen), 12, 12 Mini, 12 Pro and 12 Max. Rort's not the right word, I meant to correct myself but forgot. But they are releasing phones at more than twice the rate they used to, which are essentially the same each year as the one that preceded it. Unfortunately Apple isn't alone in this - Samsung appears to be following their lead.
You don't have to buy all of them
No no, this is one thing Samsung doesn't copy. At least Apple still has distinct yearly releases; they just keep selling last year's phone to give people a choice:
| Phone | Released |
|---|---|
| Samsung Galaxy S6 | 2015, April |
| Samsung Galaxy S6 Edge | 2015, April |
| Samsung Galaxy S6 (USA) | 2015, April |
| Samsung Galaxy S6 Edge (USA) | 2015, April |
| Samsung Galaxy S6 Duos | 2015, June |
| Samsung Galaxy S6 active | 2015, June |
| Samsung Galaxy S4 Mini I9195I | 2015, June |
| Samsung Galaxy S5 Neo | 2015, August |
| Samsung Galaxy S6 Edge+ Duos | 2015, August |
| Samsung Galaxy S6 Edge+ | 2015, August |
| Samsung Galaxy S6 Edge+ (USA) | 2015, August |
| Samsung Galaxy S7 (USA) | 2016, March |
| Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge (USA) | 2016, March |
| Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge | 2016, March |
| Samsung Galaxy S7 | 2016, March |
| Samsung Galaxy S8+ | 2017, April |
| Samsung Galaxy S8 | 2017, April |
| Samsung Galaxy S8 Active | 2017, August |
| Samsung Galaxy S9 | 2018, March |
| Samsung Galaxy S9+ | 2018, March |
| Samsung Galaxy S Light Luxury | 2018, May |
| Samsung Galaxy S10 | 2019, March |
| Samsung Galaxy S10+ | 2019, March |
| Samsung Galaxy S10e | 2019, March |
| Samsung Galaxy S10 5G | 2019, April |
| Samsung Galaxy S20 | 2020, March 06 |
| Samsung Galaxy S20+ | 2020, March 06 |
| Samsung Galaxy S20 Ultra 5G | 2020, March 06 |
| Samsung Galaxy S20+ 5G | 2020, March 06 |
| Samsung Galaxy S20 5G | 2020, March 06 |
| Samsung Galaxy S20 Ultra/LTE | 2020, March 15 |
Bit of a strange comment. Toyota sold the Camry in 6 different trim levels when they released it in 2018. You don't need to buy all of them.
I'm struggling to see how this is a good deal, what an overpriced phone, and I have an iPhone now but would never consider paying this for a phone in the current climate because at the end of the day it does everything every other mid-range to high-end phone does on the market does (minor improvements here and there the average person wouldn't notice)
$800 upfront for the phone, then I would need to pay $85 a month for the next 24 months.
$800 + $2040 ($85x24) = 2840 = OUCH!!!!!
What are people doing with 150gb on their phone? I can’t even use more than 5GB a month. I don’t have time when at work because it’s work and at home there’s wifi.
Yeah, I have 10GB PM on mine (Catch Connect) for $10 a month and struggle to use more than 7GB.
i use 15gb a month lol
Speedtest, everytime I do speed test on Telstra 5G, it consumes about 1gig per test.
wait actually? Hahah
I have 50gb
I use roughly 30gb - 40gb per month because I dont connect to wifi at all. Mostly time wasting apps like social media, spotify and youtube.
insane they remove the charger, and then increase the price too. i don't care if you remove the charger so you can sell the new ones, but at least make the phone cheaper
it is cheaper than the equivalent iphone 11.
They should have a ewaste trade in scheme - old charger worth $40 towards new fast one with magsafe cable.
Thats what they doing right now :D eWaste back to Flagship phone….. collect all the iphone 5's and then rebadge them as iphone 12
optus flybuys offer -
40GB $116 per month including phone, less $250 worth of flybuys back = $2529/ 24 months.
Nearly 3k for a phone…. Each to their own. I rock my LG G6. Next year it's due for DIY battery replacement.
$1699. Still a hell of a lot.
Looks like Apple found a stock pile of iPhone 5's…… shucked it then put in new components
I assume these phones will be the gimped Australian versions that lack the millimetre-wave antenna hardware necessary to access high-spectrum 5G.
I am not currently travelling overseas much, but I am hoping for a phone that will be fully compatible with overseas 5G networks in countries such as the USA, the EU (Italy & Finland), Singapore, Japan, South Korea, the UK and Taiwan, that have immediate, or near future, plans to use higher frequency 5G.
Has anyone seen a good deal on the "full" version iPhone 12 ?
How often do u travel overseas?
Honestly you won't be able to travel for a long time imo.
Aus is extremely behind when it comes to telecomm it's very unfortunate
How often do u travel overseas?
Pre-COVID19, it was once every 2-3 weeks.
Honestly you won't be able to travel for a long time imo.
That is quite possibly true, but it could also be allowed relatively soon, nobody can really predict for sure.
Aus is extremely behind when it comes to telecomm it's very unfortunate
Totally agree, so if I get a phone, I would rather not get the down-spec Aussie version of the iPhone.
It's reasonably likely that mm-wave 5G will eventually be used in Australia, possibly even within the life of the phone.
Buy this or keep my current phone + a rtx 3080 gaming setup, hmmmm
Free Beats Solo 3 Wireless with this deal for any stores that have stock left from our last promo
How is this considered a deal? $799 upfront and then locked in for 2 years at $85 per month. This is madness.
That's what neg votes are meant for :) I mean use it wisely on 'deals' like this one.
To be honest, this does not seem a deal to me. it need to pay $2,839 in total, and also you need continually pay 85 dollars per months over two years. I rather go with JB HIFI 59 dollars(12-month contract) and get a 500 giftcard from the Other Post. Also, optus network hmm….
it need to pay $2,839 in total, and also you need continually pay 85 dollars per months over two years
Those aren't two separate issues
Be warned the Aussie version of this iPhone 12 doesn’t have mmWave 5g capabilities so don’t expect the super fast 5g speeds that are typically advertised.
Agreed - I mentioned that above.
It seems crazy that Australians are being asked to pay a potentially higher price than the US version, for an iPhone that is missing some hardware that may prove useful during the life of the phone, either for future travelling or if/when mm-wave 5G is adopted within Australia.
This phone is for top one percent rich.
Like you haven't seen uber drivers and such with the latest iPhone…
Most people are on finance with their phones, not many people percentage wise buy it outright.
24 months!
Min total cost = $2839
Definitely not a deal for a not-so-premium-anymore phone.
Note for iSheep: I bought the first iPhone 3G back in 2008 and upgraded through to iPhone 5s; still think it is a decent phone but not at that price tag!
The world is reeling under pandemic and there are ever more people who are economically devastated and yet Apple releases its expensive phone hoping it will sell millions of them as though nothing happened! That's confidence.
problem is the optus plan. If optus gave me unlimited 6g, I would of said no. It simply doesn't work. 0 x infinite is still 0. I learnt the hard way by switching to circle.
its a shame we're on 36 month plans…….. these devices are getting too expensive.
I had more joy with my nokia 5110 with friends. I really miss the 90's, early 00's
Suspect by a "new" they mean new customers only and that existing Optus customers are not eligible.
Samsung 3y +2y security patches. The hardware updates cannot catch up with the S/W updates.
Your 5y iPhone cannot upgrade the RAM for productive PiP/multi tasking,
5G, refresh rate,
USB-C, cameras,
screen size, speed,
etc, … making the phones cheaper (much less margin) helps more frequent updates.
Different strategies. If you made bad choice you can fix it sooner, rather than being punished with missing features