Even cheaper than the other deal. Mods feel free to remove this and update sasasaa's deals price. 27hrs to go.
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At this price it get this and buy a PCIE Wifi 5 or 6 card.
100% agree on this. I bought a Gigabyte WBAX200 last year with my MSI B450-A PRO and it works like a charm.
The other benefit is that it comes with a little desktop antenna which sits nicely on my desk.
Thanks OP. I managed to cancel my order from last night.
"We're writing to let you know that your order from Amazon US has been successfully canceled. In most cases, you pay for items when we ship them to you, so you won't be charged for items that are canceled.*"
Already got the RAM yesterday (4x8Gb 3600Mhz CL16 for $152) and this is very tempting but I'm waiting for the Zen 3 embargo to be lifted November 5th and for the official reviews, overclock capability, performance, etc. Hopefully we'll see more motherboard deals on Black Friday.
I got the same RAM and number of chips yesterday. Do you know if the RAM is compatible with this motherboard? I was thinking of using a b550 Tomahawk but if this board is compatible I might as well move up to an x570.
The memory QVL list for this motherboard is here: https://download.gigabyte.com/FileList/Memory/mb_memory_x570…
If your memory is on the list it will DEFINITELY work, if it isn't there's still an extremely high chance it will work anyway (I'd be surprised if it didn't work with almost any non-ECC DDR4 DIMMS made in the last 5 years).
Yes it should be fully compatible to run the XMP profiles, check the link jkart posted, our RAM module number is BL2K8G36C16U4B, and it's listed.
Thanks Fyrelor.
Thanks Fryelor (and jkart). I looked up the list and while the RAM is listed as supported, that is only for 1 and 2 stick configurations, not 4 (in Fryelor and my case of 4 x 8GB chips). A Google search says this means that the motherboard manufacturer didn’t test this configuration so can’t verify it. Fingers crossed then.
Just missing a rear USB C :(
Very frustrating with Desktop PC. So hard to find the feature at a good price.
Yeah that's a head scratcher. You get USB-C on some midrange B450, so why not this?
Wondering if anyone could please explain to me why a USB C port is so useful? Getting one on my next board and curious as to why everyone deems it essential
Thanks in advance
if you don't have one yet and don't use it, it's not useful to you.
It's expected to phase out A eventually, but A is being very resilient.
Thank you
The exact reason why I haven’t pulled the trigger on this.
I have this m/b, the wifi version anyway.
there is a USB-C header on the m/b, so just buy something like this off ebay:
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/USB-3-0-20-Pin-to-USB-C-Front-Pa…
TBH, I have only ever used it twice, I just ended up using the from USB 3.0 instead so I don't have to reach around the back.
should work with front USB-C connector as well if your case has that option (probably way more useful)
I'm still on the fence when it comes to AMD. Ive always had intel cpus and my current build is a i7-7700k. What would be the main advantage of getting this board and going in the amd direction instead of going for the Intel 10gen ?
Price?
That's about it. I, like you, prefer the 'reliability' of intel.
Realistically for gaming multi-core is still not that useful.
Now that the PS5 and Xbox are essentially an 8 Core x86 3700X i feel next gen games are about to take multi-core utilization to the next level, so its an interesting time ahead :D
i really hope so, but PS4 and XBOX1 also have multi-core CPU's and PC games still don't too much of the multi-core cpus abilities. Most games rely on high single core clock speeds and IPC's.
at higher resolution CPUs still wont do anything significant
I doubt there's many recent games that don't flog multi-cores
That's before the 5000 series.
Obviously we still need to have independent verification but the numbers from the launch event is showing the new 5900X at worst equaling intel on some games and in others having 20% improvement.
Cinebench R20 single threaded benchmark they revealed showed a whopping on the 10900k so the future is bleek right now for intel.
For me it's the PCI-e 4 support which will matter for next-gen console ports to PC. Wish Intel addressed that with their 10th-gen chips but we should be getting it with their 11th gen stuff next year.
So amd supports pcie4?
Yes, both B550 and X570 motherboards will support PCIe Gen 4 with the new Zen 3 processors.
Intel will also support it with the new Rocket Lake generation coming in 1Q2021, which will use the same motherboard chipset as current gen (Z490), so some current motherboards will also support PCIe 4 with a new processor (I think it varies by manufacturer/model but I'm not that up to date with it).
So both AMD and Intel have PCIe Gen 4 motherboard options available right now if it's important to you.
If it didn't, noone would be using pcie4
gen4 literally doesnt matter unless you are after those ultra high speed ssds
If all the promises from AMD hold up which they usually do, since they're not charlatans like Intel marketing, 5000 series is going to be the better CPU hands down. AMD had two main issues compared to Intel prior to this:
- memory controllers and that infinity fabric clock has a limit and that being decoupled from memory timing is bad for performance: Not resolved but doesn't really matter at least right now
- Lower single-core performance: Looks like this is resolved now with a redesigned CCX shared cache and higher boost clocks
They upped the price tho but just wait for a 5000 series sale and snag one up at even a small discount. It's a better deal than Intel.
Both teams have had plenty of deceptive moments and bad practices. And that one has done more than the other is no excuse. Remember this? https://www.techpowerup.com/img/czYCxD1Swx3sN7Ks.jpg. Better gaming performance my left nut. And the lies about CPU compatibility for B450 and X470? No fault in Radeon 5000 drivers?? List goes on. AMD is no saint and is guilty of plenty dodgy practices. No one should be buying a Ryzen 5000 until independent reviews verify the claims.
I had not seen that screenshot but the scam in that is they're comparing Apples and Oranges. I think H series have pretty good iGPUs and 9700K doesn't haha. that's shameful marketing material from AMD.
What lies about b450 and X470 are you talking about? 5000 series compatibility? Because that's still a thing.
100% agree on the independent review claims tho. Although I'm going to somewhat trust Intel's panic reaction and disaster control responses to 5000 series keynote as a hint to how good they might be :)
@er1992: 3D Mark Firestrike Physics uses the CPU, not the GPU. AMD is trying to claim the 4800H is a faster gaming CPU than the 9700K based on this one benchmark. Ludicrous.
B450 and X470 motherboard compatibility for Ryzen 5000 was reversed after wide outrage (including AMD fanboys). Even AMD was unprepared for the backlash.
@Vita85: That's the point though right? It doesn't matter as much if you make a bad decision (Also bad is subjective). It matters if you're the kind of company that listens to your fanbase and in less than a week reverse a decision that could potentially cost you millions upon millions of dollars in support and development. Good guy AMD then?
Intel is such an ass, they're going to remove even XMP profiles for non-K series because they categorise it as overclocking. No amount of backlash managed to reverse and they still stand by it for 11th gen from my understanding.
@er1992: Well, you've obviously got a bias towards AMD if you think it's okay to be deceptive and then only make good on the promise once there's a furor from the customers. Next you'll be saying Intel was always price gouged on their CPU's when they were on top, but AMD's new price hike is justified because… AMD.
I'm still let down by AMD that Zen 3 won't be supporting my high-end X370 motherboard with decent VRM.
whats with the blind fanboy faith, wait for reviews
They upped the price tho but just wait for a 5000 series sale and snag one up at even a small discount. It's a better deal than Intel.
If it's anything like the PS5/XSX, RTX3080, HP VR G2, and other hot ticket items… you probably won't find it in stock for months and will be paying full price.
Also you might have missed the latest 5000 CPU announcement.
But if it's to be believed, the new 5900x / 5950x will be the new market leaders in CPU speed and power.
But take that with a grain of salt as it's from AMD's benchmarks.
Going AMD over intel right now has everything going for it except software optimisation. (This is assuming the new Ryzen 5xxx series).
Zen 3 (ryzen 5xxx series) from their launch event numbers will surpass 10th Gen intel in almost every aspect and there's no perceivable fightback from intel even with 11th gen. It might be a long road back for intel given they're likely be on 12th Gen (2022+) before they have a product that can likely compete but AMD also has Zen 4 in the roadmap for 2022.
The software optimisation is definitely something intel currently has but in some cases it's just helping catch up to AMD's performance. There are also better support on intel for edge case use scenarios where you're tinkering heavily with Bios or trying to get it to do very strange VM things.
But for the everyday use case,it looks like inte's about to get crushed this generation and don't have a fight back roadmap.
All intel has to do is lower their prices a bit and it won't matter - but considering you need a different motherboard they shouldn't wait too long..
Well I posted this morning saying that this was a good board. Mine died, 1 week old and it's apparently something that's not uncommon in this board. No post beeps (I added a speaker) no display, no keyboard/mouse (USB seem to be non functioning) I think I'll grab the next model up when I go back.
warranty?
I won't be RMA'ing. I'll return it to the store and let them sort it out. It hasn't had more than a few hours powered up.
How did you determine the problem was the board? It might be the CPU or PSU? I'm experiencing the exact same problem with the ASRock B550m-hdv but I don't have any other working PC to test the parts.
I have another PC here, trial and error tells me it's the board. Also boards are a lot more likely to fail than a CPU. Tbh I am just glad it's not my new 3080. I was worried I wouldn't see another until 2021.
I recently did a build with this motherboard(ASRock B550M-HDV) and the 1st time all the parts were together, it did not post. After some swearing, I started to reduce the number of parts to find the problem and took out 1 stick of ram and it posted immediately. So, despite buying an alleged matched pair, I thought I had got a dud but put it back in anyway and everything worked perfectly and it hasn't been a problem since - even after 2 weeks testing and benchmarking…
I also tried that to no avail. I doubt it is the ram since the case speaker did beep when it posted for that short period and got no beep codes afterwards. I ended up buying the same board again and the problem still persisted. I was stuck with two b550m-hdv, ryzen 5 3600, rm550x. I haven't bought a video card yet and tested with 2 old video cards donated by 2 friends who confirmed those cards still worked (gtx560ti & hd5850).
I gave up and RMA'd the board and the cpu to Amazon which is still on its way back. I'm willing to be penalised a small percentage for incorrect RMA as long as I know which part is faulty but Amazon doesn't bother to check according to reddit.
I'm interested in building my own PC and picking a good motherboard, but don't really know the best combos for ram, CPU, graphics, and a good case combo. Any tips where to start? Thanks
www.logicalincrements.com, set the currency to AUD and you get a good idea. Pricing is generally a little better than displayed if you look around.
Don't even have 3000 series listed…
Mobo: msi tomahawk x570 ($340)
Ram: g.skill ripjaw 16-32gb 3600mhz ($215)
Ssd: adata sx8200 pro (>1tb) ($215)
Gpu: wait for navi (set aside $750)
Cpu: wait for zen 3 Ryzen 5600x ($450)
Case: coolermaster h500 (MCM-H500-IGNN-S01) ($170)
Psu: Seasonic focus plus (Gold) 850W ($220)
+mouse, mousepad, keyboard, >27"monitor, monitor arm
All these pricings look terrible after yesterday deals
The x570 and the case are overkill imo. You can easily slash $200 off of this build by going with a $200 Mobo and a $100 case. The PSU is also arguable. Probably easily able to save around $50 on that too.
Budget, budget and budget! That's really the only thing it comes down to.
Generally for almost all normal use cases, an x570 is an overkill and not justified. Just go with a B550 around the $200 mark and you'll be fine. But that's a piece of extremely general advice. The more info you provide the better everyone will be able to help
At $233, this Gigabyte X570 board is cheaper than many B550 boards.
Mobo: MSI B550 Tomahawk
CPU: Ryzen 5600x or 5700x (TBA)
RAM: 16GB 3600mhz
GPU: Radeon RDNA2 (TBA)
PSU: Corsair RM750x
Case: Something with good airflow (personal preference)
What sort of case do you reckon is good?
I have the MSI Mortar (smaller mATX alternative to the Tomahawk) with Fractal Design Meshify C Mini case. If you went with a Tomahawk you could get the full sized Meshify C. Both cases airflow are top tier.
Sure you can get a case for $80 or so but it's my opinion the case is a component worth investing in, since the case and PSU are generally the components you hang onto.
@Ryballs: Is there a way you can work out whether your parts will all fit in the case? I have 0 prior building experience, but this is my list so far: https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/qHyBmk
I was thinking about getting the Fractal Design Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case, or alternatively the NZXT H710 ATX Mid Tower. Do you reckon size-wise it'll be okay?
@q28: All your stuff will fit inside the Meshify C.
The important numbers are: CPU cooler (158mm) <170mm , GPU length (280mm) <315mm while the front case fan is installed, PSU length (160mm) <175-210mm.
Last thing to note is top radiator clearance for motherboard component height is 40mm (ram and vrm heatsinks mainly) if you ever install a 240mm radiator+fans.
Check this site: https://au.pcpartpicker.com/
It has build guides, completed builds listing the parts, and even retail price comparison of parts.
Oh boy…motherboards are an absolute headache to choose because of how many criteria you need to consider. Motherboard 'performance' is basically boolean, and you often see a feature being either 100% fine, complete garbage, or outright missing (eg if you need usb C, you'd have to get a case that has C or an addin card as this mobo doesn't have one). Write down all the features you need and cross out all those that don't have them, then check if the board you're looking at has any major flaws. The board in this deal is meh at its normal price, pretty barebones but no big flaws unless it's missing something you need. At $234 I'd say it's a great deal.
A good place for spoonfed builds is PCPartpicker because they have comments, justifications, and criticism which isn't present in lists like whirlpool and logical increments, which has a ton of questionable choices.
there's no C port at the back for some reason.
yeah they put one on the front "instead", since at this price point generally there is only a rear usb-c and no front. i dont mind this since i cant think of any usb-c device i wouldnt rather have put into the front.
Does this come with the USB-C port to mount "on the front" or does it imply that the user has to buy a new case with one present?
It has a USB Type E port on the motherboard. You can buy a separate Type E to Type C cable that can either fit to the front port if you're case has one, or a backplate if you want to plug it into the back.
My case, Lancool II RGB, requires a special cable which costs $25 extra(plus delivery) in Aus which I am happy to pay as I prefer it being on the top of the case for easy access.
the tomahawk has it on both.
I got this board and it’s been great
Hey mate, I can't seem to find the info on this. Can you please check for me how the CPU core voltage settings are? Are they offsets or can you set the actual voltage?
My Gigabyte X470 had offsets for the voltage setting which isn't very good.
Thanks OP. Have been running a x370 board with my Ryzen 3600 - and with x370's now at end of life, this was a great little upgrade. Bought.
I guess the better deal covers the cost of getting a wifi card separately xD
I got the ASUS STRIX X570-F Gaming from last night Ebay deal for $311.
What do you guys think compare to this ? I think I still can cancel that if I need to.
Going to pair with 3700x
I'm in the same boat, got a 3700x yesterday deal…jumped on this deal though. I think you can get B550 for around $200 or so
great deal on the 3700x if you cant wait till next year. I don't think you get a better price on that till black friday and I need to build now.
this motherboard price is so tempting. Have in mind it doesn't have USB C port.
I assume the usb c port is for Vr headset ? I did some research and this one doesnt have wifi 6 if it matters.Also saw someone on reddit talking about snapping the 3700x for $360 in the us in a flash sale so I think potentially price can drop to around that
if only it has wifi
This does have wifi
Pretty sure it doesn't have wifi, no antenna ports on the IO view
No this one doesn't have wifi
$78 for Asus AX3000 + BT 5.0 PCIE card(@MSY) or $89 for TP Link Ax3000 + BT 5.0 PCIE (Umart??) which has an extension antenna if coverage is an issue. Which gives you the option to upgrade if a new faster format appears(not likely now but 12 mths ago…).
Thanks, I think if I was going to pay $300 anyway I might just get a more premium mobo with wifi priced at $300 after discounts. Actually I was trying to get the tomahawk x570 but they were sold out so quickly
I just RMA'd a Tomahawk X570 for video issues - google Tomahawk EZDEBUG VIDEO LED.. YMMV
If a WiFi board is equal or similar in price to it's No WiFi brethren, then go for it. Else, sometimes they can be more of a pain than they are worth. Firstly, the area on the board is already cramped with USB, possibly video etc. Also, if the WiFi or bluetooth fails, you have to choose whether you pull everything off your motherboard and return it, or just turn off the WiFi on the motherboard and buy a PCIE card anyway - in which case you have wasted the extra cost. Much easier to return a WiFi card than the whole motherboard.
Of course, I am old school where there was no such thing as WiFi on the motherboard so it was always an add on.
any good itx mobo deals
Looking for this too!
Price has increased now
It is still 233.57 if you click on the "view deal" button. Not sure why they have put it behind a button click now.
updated the link so it should be linking straight through to 233.57.
Any benefit upgrading from a b450 version of this?
This says $22.57 for delivery. Does this change to 'free' if I sign up to Prime?
This or the tomahawk?
Tomahawk has fewer USB ports but does have a type C. Tomahawk also has wifi6 and BT 5.1. Tomahawk also costs more. Those are the main differences.
Are the fans on these noisy?
It's weird, I click the "View Offer" button, the page refreshes and nothing … the view offer button is till there… no add to cart unless I choose regular price..
![[Prime] Gigabyte X570 AORUS Elite $233.57 Delivered @ Amazon US via AU](https://files.ozbargain.com.au/n/02/573302.jpg?h=ef235f37)
Any B550 or x570 boards with wifi on sale?