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The no-compromise VR headset. Realistic visuals. Immersive soundscapes. Superb tracking and performance. Developed in collaboration with Valve and Microsoft, our breakthrough headset delivers a more immersive experience.[1] Ergonomically designed for comfort. Optimized for compatibility. Introducing the new standard in VR.

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    • [Deactivated] on 16/09/2020 - 12:59
      +31

      Does that not make sense?
      I know wireless would be preferable, but wired allows them to focus more on power and performance.

      • ATangk on 16/09/2020 - 14:02
        +5

        Oculus Quest 2 was announced.

        • Jasonissm on 16/09/2020 - 14:07
          +9

          Completely different ballpark, you will never get the same level of performance with the Quest 2 compared to a PC.

          • ATangk on 16/09/2020 - 14:08
            +9

            @Jasonissm: You'll never get the same immersion linked to a cable. That is the compromise.

          • CarbonTwelve on 16/09/2020 - 14:21
            +11

            @Jasonissm: I don't think that's necessarily true. With PC link you get the best of both worlds; direct connection support to PC with the ability to go wireless / standalone if you prefer.

          • Yabasugiru on 16/09/2020 - 15:14
            +1

            @Jasonissm: Quest link is 10/10

            I dont mean over the air streaming, I mean using a good USB 3 cable to pc.

            As long as your PC supports it, It's virtually the same performance when plugged in. Oculus has better tracking compared to windows mixed vr imo as well.

            Reverb G2 does have the higher resolution and built in headphones though, but Considering the quest 2 is likely going to be considerably cheaper, not too sure about it.

            P.s. I play Beat Saber competitively; and own Vive + Quest, and have tried Rift, PSVR, Reverb G1

            • Jasonissm on 16/09/2020 - 15:20
              +4

              @Yabasugiru: I can definitely feel some input lag on my Quest when I use Oculus Link, it definitely feels like a more gimped experience. Also you need to buy an Oculus Link cable or compatible cable if you're comparing to a wired VR headset, and the screen on the original Quest was not the best to my eyes, although the Quest 2 can definitely fix most of these issues. The main thing with me was the input delay as I'm quite sensitive to it, while using the recommended Anker cable, I was going to get the official Link cable to see if that helped but I just gave up on it and it's just been sitting there, much rather a wired headset.

            • Abaddon on 17/09/2020 - 14:31

              @Yabasugiru: Quest 2 is a bit of a hot mess on release though (I was holding out to see whether it would be any good). Headstrap sucks, IPD adjustment is shit (unless you have one of the 3 supported IPD's), colours on the LCD are a bit more washed out than the origina, 90Hz isn't currently supported for Quest Link.

              Pretty good write up here https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2020/09/review-we-do-not-reco…

              So I'm leaning back towards a Reverb G2 while it's on sale.

              • Yabasugiru on 17/09/2020 - 15:14

                @Abaddon: Fair enough really;
                I honestly want to try the Valve Index the most because of the high refresh but no official resellers in Aus right now.

            • OweyAu on 17/09/2020 - 22:04
              +1

              @Yabasugiru: You lost at "I play beat Saber competitively"😂

        • Slurped on 16/09/2020 - 14:11
          +1

          This G2 seems to have the best display out of them all which is great for people who play simulators (like me).

          I'll wait for reviews of the Quest 2 as i've used the original to stream from my PC and it just didn't feel quite right when compared to the Rift S. also F facebook

          • ATangk on 16/09/2020 - 14:23

            @Slurped: I bought the original on release, but now its mostly been sitting around doing nothing… :S

        • Franc-T on 16/09/2020 - 20:23

          They are different markets - I have a WMR and a Go and each have advantages/disadvantages

          Depends on what you want

      • imurgod on 16/09/2020 - 20:07
        +1

        And any serious vr capable of running more than gimmicks gets the power from a pc with a good graphics card.

        Wireless also introduces lag.

    • scrimshaw on 16/09/2020 - 12:59
      +19

      No Zucc to spy on you though.

      • phaminator on 16/09/2020 - 13:06
        +7

        Yeah what's with FB forcing users to connect to FB via Oculus now and banning accounts with fake names .. ?

        • scud70 on 16/09/2020 - 13:14
          +9

          Zuc owns them so u gotta do what zuc tells you… "he likes to watch"

        • nereus on 16/09/2020 - 13:31
          +6

          Data data data data data data data

        • ChadHominem on 16/09/2020 - 16:19

          It's like that ready player one book/movie.
          Wants to own the virtual world

  • matictac on 16/09/2020 - 13:01
    +2

    Looks like a great headset, but I'll keep rocking the Vive until there's a comparable wireless headset.

    • BinaryPirate on 16/09/2020 - 14:49

      I was thinking about getting a Vive Cosmos.
      I don't want to use it standing up and moving though.

      Can you use the Vive (or any VR setup) with a mouse/keyboard/controller while sitting down?
      For example, playing Borderlands 3 with an xbox controller & just the headset?

      • matictac on 16/09/2020 - 15:00
        +1

        I'm not sure about Borderlands 3 specifically, but there are loads of VR games that can be played seated using the Vive wands or with just a regular controller. Those details are very clearly advertised on Steam, with each game clearly saying what inputs are supported, and whether they can be played seated, standing or both. :)

      • BoredMartian on 16/09/2020 - 15:09
        +1

        Just to add to what Matictac was saying, you can also stream your desktop to a VR application. For example, using the default Steam menu or a theatre app like Bigscreen.

        The upside is that you can pretty much play any flatscreen game you want in VR. The downside is there is going to be some input delay - but this is negligible and may not be important if you're not playing a competitive game.

      • V003 on 16/09/2020 - 15:13
        +1

        I have cosmos elite and SDE is there!, I do watch movies and play games through vorpx but u dont get the fedality/clarity.

        well, they say G2 supposedly has better screen so less sde means better immersion, you can use vorpx to play most games on any vr headset

        • BinaryPirate on 16/09/2020 - 15:20

          The SDE was my second worry. I was hoping HTC would switch to AMOLED like some of the others, but no :(

          • V003 on 16/09/2020 - 15:50

            @BinaryPirate: now i m tempted for g2, as mostly into watching movies/videos, but don't know what to do with elite, i spent full price and also spent more than 700aud on index knuckles

            • BinaryPirate on 16/09/2020 - 19:54

              @V003: The elite is pretty expensive, huh?

            • Abaddon on 17/09/2020 - 19:59
              +1

              @V003: I watched a video today about using the Knuckles with the G2. Could be the perfect solution.

        • [Deactivated] on 23/09/2020 - 14:57

          The reviews say SDE is functionally gone. And the sweet spot is huge.

  • [Deactivated] on 16/09/2020 - 13:01

    Only downside imo is no finger tracking in the controllers

    • lostn on 20/09/2020 - 13:09

      what are some games that use this? I'm trying to think of gaming applications for finger tracking. But what can you actually do with it in game? I've never seen a game that based itself around individual finger tracking.

      • enviousjelly on 20/09/2020 - 18:25

        The only one which really comes to mind for me is VR Chat with gestures using the capacitive touch on controllers.

  • Cheapo Moose on 16/09/2020 - 13:02
    +9

    I'd be waiting for the Oculus Quest 2.

    • IJustKnowStuff on 16/09/2020 - 13:07

      Yeah for sure. I came here to comment this too.

    • scrimshaw on 16/09/2020 - 13:10

      Any guesses as to what the refresh rate might be for Q2? I'm hoping for at least 80hz+ to match my current Rift S.

      This HP is super tempting but at the same time there is a updated model call (HP Reverb Omnicept Edition) with eye tracking that would enable foveated rendering https://uploadvr.com/hp-reverb-g2-eye-tracking-model/.

      • Porker on 16/09/2020 - 14:05

        I have the Reverb (1?) and it does 90hz. I'll be pre-ordering this though AND getting Quest 2. Horses for courses as I see it.

        Upgrade only because Reverb 1 hand controllers are rubbish, and even if I were to buy the new controllers, I suspect that will be the same as the loss between buying Reverb 2 and selling Reverb 1.

      • menvert on 16/09/2020 - 14:46

        Yep review models do 90Hz

        • Abaddon on 17/09/2020 - 14:33

          Just not on Oculus Link

    • Oxxy on 16/09/2020 - 13:41
      +26

      I won't, the upcoming compulsory Facebook integration means I'll be selling mine. This is my go to option for now.

      • Scrobo on 16/09/2020 - 14:18
        +1

        Same here.

      • Saura on 16/09/2020 - 14:37
        -1

        Ur loss, but understandable. Can be in a sense jailbroken if you really want to

    • caitsith01 on 16/09/2020 - 13:54
      +10

      Oculus is a non-starter for me due to Facebook.

    • jasswolf on 17/09/2020 - 05:06

      And here's confirmation of that:

      https://www.oculus.com/quest-2/

      Much better value IMO.

  • Gobbo14 on 16/09/2020 - 13:13
    +7

    Pulled the trigger.

    This is shaping up to be an awesome headset.

    • Saura on 16/09/2020 - 14:33
      +1

      Can't wait to see reviews compared to the Quest 2

  • monchee on 16/09/2020 - 13:18
    +1

    I'll wait until MFS gets its VR update

    • Glitchy02 on 16/09/2020 - 13:30
      +1

      Flight sim gets its VR update roughly when the G2 comes out.

      • monchee on 16/09/2020 - 14:01
        +1

        Exciting! I'll wait for reviews then

    • [Deactivated] on 22/09/2020 - 15:10

      It'll never be a thing. The engine is shot and relies on a single core, there is literally no way you're getting dual display output at 90hz or up from that engine.

  • CharcoaI on 16/09/2020 - 13:24

    Haha! I wonder if the Oculus leak made them reduce the price

      • lostn on 20/09/2020 - 13:16

        Umm.. direct conversion + GST is a good price. We normally get charged more than that. You get the typical aussie tax thrown on top of it. This is as good a price as directly importing it.

        Things often cost 50% more than US conversion rate for us. Any time we're not paying more than americans are is a considered a good deal by aussie standards.

        • jasswolf on 20/09/2020 - 15:07

          You're going to have to show working there, because usually the overhead is about $30-$50 AUD, if anything.

          Fact is that exchange rates have dropped 15% since this product and pricing was announced, so a cut was coming.

          • lostn on 20/09/2020 - 15:26

            @jasswolf: Alright. I'll give you an example of my most recent purchase.

            Galaxy Tab 7+ 128GB Wifi: $850 USD ($1166 AUD)
            AU price: $1549

            https://www.samsung.com/us/tablets/tab-s7/buy/

            Galaxy Tab 7+ 256GB Wifi: $930 USD ($1275 AUD)
            AU price: $1749

            https://www.harveynorman.com.au/catalogsearch/result/?q=tab+…

            • jasswolf on 20/09/2020 - 15:48

              @lostn: That matches up with making purchasing orders at the peak of the covid slowdown. They'll dive as well.

              • lostn on 20/09/2020 - 17:20

                @jasswolf: Are we still in the peak of covid slowdown? This tablet only released a week ago.

                • jasswolf on 20/09/2020 - 18:21

                  @lostn: Launched last month globally, units were probably ordered 2-3 months before that.

                  • lostn on 26/09/2020 - 00:14

                    @jasswolf: MSRP is MSRP. It's not going to change.

                    I got another example for you though. I've been wanting a HP Spectre x360 15" OLED model. The US MSRP is $1849 USD ($2636 AUD) for 16GB RAM, 512GB SSD. AU price for the same specs is $4699. Ouch!

                    Stock is low though, and HP pulls it from the listing store when they have no stock.

                    I'm not buying it for 4.7k though. Even if it was $1000 off, I still wouldn't pay that much for a laptop.

  • phaminator on 16/09/2020 - 13:25
    +2

    Who's read the reviews on the page? lol

    • Gobbo14 on 16/09/2020 - 13:27

      Haha they're great. Especially the disposable one.

  • Heythereharpo on 16/09/2020 - 13:31
    +17

    Love it. I've been eyeing this off for ages but the price was just a bit too high. Also cant bring myself to buy Oculus because Facebook are f***ers.

    • Gobbo14 on 16/09/2020 - 13:39
      +1

      Truth.

    • WilhelmBargo on 16/09/2020 - 13:43
      -3

      I don't really mind connecting my Facebook to the Oculus but do you have any major reasons why it has put you off getting one?

      • Heythereharpo on 16/09/2020 - 13:44
        +12

        Just that Facebook own them, and I don't want to support Facebook.

          • BinaryPirate on 16/09/2020 - 15:18
            +13

            @ln28909: Why lol? Facebook's (profanity) evil.

            [rant]
            Their AI report review system is frequently gamed by assholes to bully people & have them cut off from their support networks.
            FB be like 'lol, can't help u. sry. bye'

            Post any tits & arse & Zucc will John Proctor you in less than five, but slow-mo beheadings? "np, sir. Would you like subtitles with that?"

            They facilitating genocide in Myanmar & other small countries but (profanity) me if there's no reporting system to cover govt kill squads using the platform to track & murder troublesome civilians.

            FB used to have actual humans reviewing reports, once upon a time. Unfortunately the steady stream of kiddie porn, executions, violent rapes and other delightful material caused their entire staff of a few thousand to check out ten at a time on PTSD leave.
            "Money for trauma counselling? You are kidding. They were agency staff. Not our responsibility"

            They've got thousands of accounts paying their bills in (profanity) rubles but they just can't seem to stop those pesky Russians from running a coordinated misinformation campaign against democracy.
            Might have something to do with hiring Breitbart-level bloggers to 'balance out their fact check unit'

            The least harmless thing FB's done in ten years was the massive Cambridge Analytica 'data breach', in which FB accidentally gave/sold read access across their entire user database to an private intelligence contractor with fewer scruples than the Talking Potato.
            [\rant]

            I don't really like FB at all & sometimes overreact.

            • ln28909 on 16/09/2020 - 15:33
              -4

              @BinaryPirate: Look man you just gotta accept it and move on to things you can control

              • BinaryPirate on 16/09/2020 - 15:37
                +5

                @ln28909: Well, obviously, but that doesn't mean giving FB a pass. I can both not use their service & occasionally remind people what they're really about.

                • ln28909 on 16/09/2020 - 15:39
                  -2

                  @BinaryPirate: Well there's absolutely no point, people are still going to use FB regardless of what you say

                  So you're the only one missing out here

                  • BinaryPirate on 16/09/2020 - 15:56
                    +3

                    @ln28909: What am I missing out on?

                    • ln28909 on 16/09/2020 - 15:58
                      -2

                      @BinaryPirate: Well can't really say since I don't know what you're into

                      But if 2billion people are using it and you're not I'm sure you're missing out on sth

                      • BinaryPirate on 16/09/2020 - 16:04
                        +2

                        @ln28909: Yeah, no. They can't offer me anything I can't get an equivalent of somewhere else.
                        Unfortunately, a sizable percentage of those billions are stuck b'c they can only access certain thing b'c of FB. Daily Show did a run down on it a while back.

                        • ln28909 on 16/09/2020 - 16:05
                          -1

                          @BinaryPirate: My goal here was not to change your mind, it just makes me laugh when people think like this

                        • locosam on 16/09/2020 - 16:25
                          +1

                          @BinaryPirate: Stopped using Facebook eons ago. Don't feel I miss out on anything.

                          But still have account for market place.

                          Everyone is different but my circle doesn't really use it so it's easy for me.

                          Google has been harder for me to detach from though.

                          • BinaryPirate on 16/09/2020 - 20:04
                            +3

                            @locosam: That's where I'm at as well. Just bought a car through the marketplace using an alias account & isolating the FB tab in its own container to (profanity) with their tracking.

            • NWLikeShopping on 16/09/2020 - 16:20
              +7

              @BinaryPirate: With you on all of that.

              I was one of the people bullied off FB and cut off from both my support network on Facebook and information in my private messages I required for a civil lawsuit that logged dates and times of negative events to which I was subjected.

              A bunch of MAGAt trolls reported me during the 2016 American presidential campaign for fact-checking someone's hate screed against Hillary. The claim — by apparently dozens of evangelical pro-Trump nutters, or maybe Russians that followed the pro-Trump nutter who posted the hate screed, who themselves didn't have to prove they were logged in under their full names to falsely complain that another user wasn't logged in under their own full name — was that I was a fakenamer.

              Oddly, as I'd joined FB when it was still restricted to people from certain universities and a small number of tech companies, I'd enrolled with an email address that matched the name I used on my profile, which was in fact my true name. (Rare for me online.) So Facebook had MULTIPLE REASONS to be pretty darn certain it wasn't me who was the liar there.

              Nonetheless, they refused to let me back on unless I gave them a digital copy of my passport photo with demographic information. They of course promised to delete it "eventually", "when it's no longer needed", but "not immediately". ROTFL, no. No no no no no. FeckOff, FaceBook.

              The trolls who reported me are apparently still there and still spreading misinformation.

              I couldn't get a lawyer to rep me for the lawsuit without showing beforehand (ie, before they were engaged and could subpoena) the proof of what I'd been subjected to.

              I still have no contact with dozens of friends in my home country, which is kind of important seeing as I have no living family, and cannot subscribe to and see notices from government and community organisations that won't post detailed information, anywhere except their FaceBook pages.

            • Twodogs on 29/09/2020 - 13:04
              +1

              @BinaryPirate: Wow the first i hate facebook rant that i actually appreciate . The Oculus forums and Reddit forums have been constant spam against anyone who pre-ordered a Quest 2 if they had of posted like you did it would have made a big difference imo .
              Just a note ive pre-ordered a Quest 2 incredible bang for buck VR and ive had my Rift account connected to my facebook account for years.
              The HP G2 looks fantastic but i wanted to try wireless and the cost of a quest is a lot less $479 all in compared to the G2 pre-order price of $899 + you need a good PC .

      • Diji1 on 16/09/2020 - 16:52

        major reasons

        You lose money.

        Most people can't seem to work out the basic link between data collection and losing money though and operate like audiophiles believing they are the one special case in the world where data collection does not cause them to lose money.

        Most of them expose themselves to advertising and other propaganda. The data collection provides feedback for the effectiveness of the harmful exposure to advertising and other propaganda.

    • imurgod on 16/09/2020 - 20:16
      +1

      You need a pc with a good gfx card to play any decent games though.

  • forged on 16/09/2020 - 13:53
    +4

    Definitely seems like better value than the Index

    • caitsith01 on 16/09/2020 - 13:55
      +9

      Can you even get Index in Australia? My understanding was that it isn't officially for sale here because reasons. Which is a shame because it looked like the best option of the current/last generation by a mile.

      • scrimshaw on 16/09/2020 - 14:03
        +3

        No one stocks the index here. It should be noted Valve pitched in with the design of the optics technology and audio solution of the G2, so it's actually a collaborative project between the 2 companies.

        It's likely that valve will never release the Index here because of how small our market is compared to the US.

        • whichwhatwho on 16/09/2020 - 18:16
          +2

          If only there was some sort of service that could move cardboard boxes between locations, using things such as airplanes and ships.
          Futurology can only dream though.
          I have no idea why Australia is a big (profanity)-off black hole for VR headsets. I'm still on OG Vive because everything else is either not available or not 'next generation improvement.'

          • caitsith01 on 16/09/2020 - 20:34

            @whichwhatwho: I assume they don't want the hassle of providing support for a complex physical product etc, which would involve a lot of setting up and overheads.

          • [Deactivated] on 23/09/2020 - 14:59

            @whichwhatwho: We have much better consumer protection and warranty laws here, and they don't want to take on the cost/risk. They'd rather sell those headsets overseas for a bigger profit, over time, because they can.

      • ngengerous on 16/09/2020 - 22:23

        Sadly not. We have a small market - plus I think Valve is a little bit turned off Australia as a market after the Steam Refund lawsuit and the ACCC.

  • Sidog on 16/09/2020 - 13:54
    +3

    I'll stick with my PSVR that's packed away in the garage thank you very much.

    • npiet1 on 16/09/2020 - 15:22

      Wait till the PS5, Apparently the headset was very under powered due to the ps4 restrictions and that the PS5 will make them a lot better.

      • Sidog on 16/09/2020 - 15:30

        Yeah that's actually my plan, will be one of the fist things I do when I get my PS5. Got a big backlog of VR titles I've picked up on special over the years.

    • AustriaBargain on 16/09/2020 - 15:37
      +4

      Just wear a screen door over your head, for the PSVR experience without needing to unpack it from your garage.

      • Sidog on 16/09/2020 - 21:08

        I'll use my Google Actual Reality headset instead

      • lostn on 20/09/2020 - 13:20

        the SDE of PSVR is actually very minimal. It was better than launch Vive and Rift.

        • AustriaBargain on 20/09/2020 - 14:05

          It blows chunks. It feels like being an inch away from a huge 720p TV. But it’s cheap and it works.

          • lostn on 20/09/2020 - 15:45

            @AustriaBargain: yeah I don't think you've ever owned one. That had the best SDE of all headsets at the time it released.

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