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Good price if you can hang for a month, Timing 16-18-18-38.
G.Skill Ripjaws V 32GB (2x16GB) DDR4 3200MHz $168.49 + Shipping (Free with Prime) @ Amazon US via AU
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Depends what you have open, a game by itself currently will not use near 32GB RAM. However I am someone who runs some afk games in the background as well as having 20+ chrome tabs open some of which play videos (Youtube, Facebook, Twitch) etc and I could easily use more than 16GB RAM.
yup. that's what my 13 year old does as well.. youtube tabs all on one screen, gaming on the other.
Current roadmaps indicate Tiger Lake desktop won't. Server products to get DDR5 in 2021 with Sapphire Rapids and consumer products in 2022 with Alder Lake (assuming no more delays at Intel).
Is it just me or is CL14 becoming uncommon?
I'm the market for G.Skill Trident Neo 3200MHz @ CL14 but haven't found anything that's at a decent price or that delivery fee doesn't kill.
The higher the MHz the harder it becomes to have low cas latency. CL14 at 3200 and above is going to require high quality ram that has a cost to it.
Good to know.. Thanks :)
CL14 is more common with 16GB kits, not so much 32GB kits, it also costs at lot more.
Yeah.. I'm hunting for 16GB (gaming build).
Psst, use these sticks instead
They're B-die 3600 16-16-16-36 and they work with 2 kits perfectly (4x8gb config)
Thanks but more keen on G.Skill Trident Neo as they seem to be better with Ryzen.
32gb would be overkill for gaming.
Tnaks for the suggestions. I'm still more keen on the CL14's.
Uhh these have exactly the same IC's as the neos. "They seem to be better with ryzen" if you're referring to the packaging on the trident neos, it's literally marketing
@NigerianGirthLord: Will check out the vid a little later. thanks for the info!! Keen to suss it out and get back to you when I have a look.
Except I got the same 2x16gb ones for $170 (like this deal).
Surely double the ram is better than 3600 vs 3200…?
Uncommon since majority of people don't really care about that extra performance.
They didn't get to the bottom of the question.
3200C14 can only be achieved with Samsung B-Die Memory IC.
But Samsung B-Die is very inconsistent on Memory Clocks and Latency. The really good chip can do 4000+ with tight timings, the worst chip may only do JEDEC standard and not much more.
Since the introduction of Ryzen 3000, high memory clocks(3600+) become achieve-able by both teams(Intel and AMD). Manufacturers started to move away to use their cheery picked B-Dies to produce higher memory clock sticks.
The typical B-Die would have tRCD timing (the number after CL) same or 1 tick higher than CL. i.e. 3200 14-14-14-34. or 3600 16-16-16-36, or maybe 3600 16-17-17 something like that.
3600 16-16-16-36 is basically the higher memory bandwidth and similar latency version of 3200c14. I am pretty sure you can buy a 3600 16 16 16 36 kit, and downclock it to 3200c14 without changing voltage.
also, unless you have Ryzen 1000/2000, you shouldn't be looking at 3200c14 specifically (even then you can buy a 3600c16 kit and downclock it) It is the memory IC you shopping for, the timing is to know which IC it is.
AND…… Trident Neo was marketed for Ryzen, but it doesn't means other memory doesn't work with Ryzen.
With going for 32G+, you may want to shop Hynix CJR/DJR, Micron RevE etc instead, as samsung B-Die will put more stress on the IMC(integrate memory controller) and may roll over give you bluescreen all day, even if the chip is perfectly fine.
I am no expert compare to Pros, but if you do have memory related question(or PC related question in general), you can shoot me a DM.
Thanks heaps for the informative reply OMGJL, really appreciate your input.
One of the key reasons why I was looking at 3200CL14 was the ease of use and infinity fabric clock.
I got a lot of good info from this vid and article by Gamers Nexus which prompted me to look at CL14. Have you seen it before?
https://www.gamersnexus.net/guides/3508-ryzen-3000-memory-be…
The build is for gaming so 16gb (x2 8gb) will be more than enough.
Here is my build if you want to check it out. Any feedback would be welcome :)
https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/gFKB8MIt's for my friend who just wants to game and get in VR later. He wants a functional build/case so not interested in TG panel. He would like the build to last 5-10yr with upgrade options along the way. He doesn't tinker so we went with air cooling instead of AIO.
Some stuff has already been purchased, I'm holding off on GPU till 3080 release and benchmarks. Might even hold off till AMD GPU is released.. maybe.
For your reference… Intel still have a small edge on gaming performance (10700k/10900k), you do get less cores though. Reasonable productivity performance + best gaming performance (Intel), or best productivity performance + reasonable gaming performance(AMD) your pick…
Decent choice on the motherboard, if price is not a concern. I'd happily drop down to the Strix F(lose dual GPU function, but dual gpu is old fashion anyway). Also recommend you check Gigabyte B550 Aorus Pro (not the mATX one), or check MSI B550 Tomahawk….. X570 maybe a good choice if price fits.
As for RAM, since Ryzen 3000 work the best with 3600~3800 RAM speed, and your friend don't tinker, so 3600c16-16-16-36 B-Die is the fastest pick…. However, if the system is meant to be used for 5 years, you'd better get him 32GB RAM. I'd recommend go for a decent pair of CJR/DJR/ Micron Rev E, good choice(if you don't tinker) would be a GSKill 32G Kit with 3600, 16-19-19-39 timing. Performance still decent, higher memory clock = higher IF = Actually better performance. The timing is more for nerds like me than actually meaningful performance.
For Case, I'd suggest you look at gamers nexus's case review, and get a proper mesh case.
For Fans, I'd suggest 3 front, 1 back, and 1 top(rear), and leave the front-top fan mount alone. I personally wouldn't go all Noctua though….. Just because of price. I bought 2 pack of Thermaltake Pure 12 from MSY for $69 per pack of 3. they arn't too loud and the argb looks really good (and RGB can be unplugged), they got decent airflow too… In the old days I helped a friend installed a pack of 3 of Coolermaster OEM 120mm (like $7 each?), those works good and arn't too loud, airflow was surprisingly reasonable too.
PSU… won't comment on the 1000w, I think even for RTX3000, 750w will fit regardless. I currently rocking a Thermaltake GF1 750w gold (kinda cheap from MSY even without discount) which have 10yr warranty.
I'd get Intel for gaming build though, just because Intel's price was also pretty decent now, and it's actually better gaming performance(even without PCIE4.0)
@OMGJL: Cheers for the feedback OMGJL.
I have already purchased quite a few items (in black text & says purchased.. I have added the price I paid for them not rrp). I have been sussing out the deals so haven't paid full reatil for anything at this stage.
My friend doesn't tinker but the plan is to tweak the system and OC a stable build. I might back things off like 10-20% to be on the safe side.
Mobo I went the E version because it has better potential OC and might come in handy with newer gen CPU's later. Board has same power delivery as X570 Tuf, usb 3.2 front IO header and comes with a wifi Antenna. Just some of the reasons I went E instead of F and it was only an extra $60 at the time.
Looking back I prob should have gone X570 given the price point but really wasn't a fan of the fan chipset cooling system. Yup terrible dad joke I know :PThat's a good point, I think I will look at 32gb and look at CL16 given the life span of the system and performance. Cheers
Yeah case is very personal. Will have a look what GN recommends.. thanks.
Already got the fans @ ~$32 each on special but good info on positing. Want the system to vent well but not being like a helicopter!!
I wasn't planning on going 1000w.. but got a steal price!! Probably best deal thus far @ $289 for a HX (one step down from top of the line AX). Normally this thing is over $400 so i pulled the trigger instead of the 850w.
How much better are we talking if you don't mind me asking? I haven't bothered to even look because AMD has been killing it!!
@vash5: "How much better are we talking if you don't mind me asking?" if you were asking about CPU between Intel/AMD, this would give you a rough idea: https://youtu.be/_UMMPjqLe8g https://youtu.be/1kK6CBJdmug
Focus on the 1% low result as those are what hurting fluent experience the most. You'll see Intel leads about 5~20fps across the board. Also you can OC Ring/Memory/CPU on Intel individually, as opposed to AMD you can't OC the core much before you hit the thermal wall (AMD with smaller CPU die is not great at heat dissipating), You can't OC Memory much higher than 3733 before your Infinity fabric limit, and your Infinity fabric is basically going to be 1800mhz~1900.
I've been suggesting Ryzen to almost everyone since like July 2019 when Ryzen3000 were out, because value per dollar was so much better back then, but recent Intel price has changed my mind…
If I choose every part carefully, and done a perfect build for Intel/Ryzen, this is what's going to come out:
*ignore silicon lottery, pretend I got worse bin for both.
Intel: 10600k @4.9Ghz Core, 4.6Ghz Ring, ~4000c18 memory OC. (this is when you got a pretty bad CPU)
AMD 3700x PBO with ~4.3/4.4Ghz while gaming, 1866 IF + 3733c16 Memory OC.or similar on 10700k vs 3900x
However, unless you haven them side by side, it's hard to find the actual difference, and I do believe more core will gain advantage as time go by, even if "per core" performance is slightly worse.
I guess I just like how I have more room to tweak Intel than AMD. (background: I used 3700x since Aug 2019, and I got 10700k 6 weeks ago)
2 X 16 GB FWIW
It is worth.
pretty much the same, someone might know more about the specific chips used but i doubt this one is using high end chips.
Reports that it does not run well with AMD except on Asus boards
For gaming, and productivity, no video editing, I downgraded from 32GB to 16GB, as it's a bit of a waste 32GB.
Yeah but how much lose selling 16gb?
Eventually the ram becomes the bottle neck in the system.Seems that the sweet spot for ram and a good deal is $169 for 32gb or ~$90 for 16gb
Seems like once you go for ram that has fancy LEDs the price dramatically jumps, unless anyone's come across 32gb 3200 ram with LEDs at a great affordable price?
Great price but no fancy LEDs 😃
Back to $199
Is there any benefit in getting 32gb ram for just gaming?
Dont know if Tiger Lake desktop with debut with DDR5 but AM5 will (5000 Ryzen CPU series)